Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 184: Huge return

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I admit I haven't seen his indy stuff, but I'll admit that his match against Swagger and Ziggler was great.
here's the video where Swagger talks about the handicap match against Little Jimmy & R-Truth.

"Have you ever looked at Little Jimmy in the eye? It's...it's terrifying."

I stole this. But Sin Cara botches his driving test.



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So, I'm still a little bit bothered by something from Impact...

During his intro promo, Hogan mentioned that he met with creative and that they had all sorts of great ideas for the future.

I know we're talking about TNA here, but isn't that really breaking kayfabe in a way that we haven't really seen before? Isn't that the equivalent of publicly admitting that all the storylines are fake and created by writers?

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From: SmartMuffin | #103
I know we're talking about TNA here, but isn't that really breaking kayfabe in a way that we haven't really seen before? Isn't that the equivalent of publicly admitting that all the storylines are fake and created by writers?

During the Immortal storyline, there was LITERALLY a segment where Hogan said, ON AIR, that how many titles you've won doesn't matter anymore, because those are given to you by the old writers and now it's time to REALLY prove yourself with him and Eric in charge. Draw money or get fired.

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(So really Hogan is the problem here. He seems to not understand kayfabe anymore)

(And also ISN'T IT IRONIC that Hogan has drawn no money and yet is still around)

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So would anybody be interested in me catching up on FCW and posting thoughts/clips on everything? I did it a while ago, but I haven't kept up as much as I'd like.

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From: Jakyl25 | #104
During the Immortal storyline, there was LITERALLY a segment where Hogan said, ON AIR, that how many titles you've won doesn't matter anymore, because those are given to you by the old writers and now it's time to REALLY prove yourself with him and Eric in charge. Draw money or get fired.

IIRC, he gave this speech to someone who was really popular and then proceeded to be hugely de-pushed under Hogan. Pope or Nigel or someone like that.

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Oh, the one I'm referring to was on Reaction, which is SUPPOSED to still be in kayfabe.

Found it:



It's just...astonishing to listen to someone say these things and think it makes ANY sort of logical sense.

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So, I'm still a little bit bothered by something from Impact...

During his intro promo, Hogan mentioned that he met with creative and that they had all sorts of great ideas for the future.

I know we're talking about TNA here, but isn't that really breaking kayfabe in a way that we haven't really seen before? Isn't that the equivalent of publicly admitting that all the storylines are fake and created by writers?

Really? This is the first time you're calling attention to this in TNA? They have done this for years! It's kind of Russo's thing.

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So would anybody be interested in me catching up on FCW and posting thoughts/clips on everything? I did it a while ago, but I haven't kept up as much as I'd like.

This might be one of the strongest periods for FCW considering all of the people down there right now. I say go for it.

Found it:



It's just...astonishing to listen to someone say these things and think it makes ANY sort of logical sense.

Welllllll, I can ALMOST defend this one. When he says "who cares how many FAKE titles you've won" isn't it possible he's taking a jab at TNA's tendency to massively overinflate title numbers and include minor titles from other minor feds (Angle and 3D probably the worst offenders here).

Like, presumably when he says who cares how many FAKE titles you've won, he's not including the TNA titles as fake ones. You'd think...

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I like this shirt way more than the official one. I might order that one instead. I just don't want to "not support Daniel Bryan's push" by not buying the official merchandise.

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From: SmartMuffin | #111
Welllllll, I can ALMOST defend this one. When he says "who cares how many FAKE titles you've won" isn't it possible he's taking a jab at TNA's tendency to massively overinflate title numbers and include minor titles from other minor feds (Angle and 3D probably the worst offenders here).

Like, presumably when he says who cares how many FAKE titles you've won, he's not including the TNA titles as fake ones. You'd think...

TNA inflates Angle's "fake" title count by adding in his real ones from legitimate amateur wrestling, actually. <_<

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Rad Link 5 posted...
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I like this shirt way more than the official one. I might order that one instead. I just don't want to "not support Daniel Bryan's push" by not buying the official merchandise.

I think the shirt is too, uh, "busy" to me if that makes any sense to anyone.

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They need to do one of these alarm clocks for Daniel Bryan, with the alarm being his theme music with Bryan "YES!"ing along.

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I was focused more on the fact that this one has a waaaay better font.

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Angelina Love just tweeted a link to a dailymotion video of one of her older TNA PPV matches. Wonder how management feels about that!

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FCW - 7/3/2011

So yeah, I stopped really actively following FCW back then. It's quite some time ago! It was the show right before Dean Ambrose (AKA Jon Moxley) debuted, so this will be the event he shows up at. We have Matt Martlaro and William Regal commentating for us. They announce Aksana vs Kaitlyn in a title match. Good god that sounds terrible.

However, we get Xavier Woods (AKA Consequences Creed) vs Brad Maddox now! Brad Maddox literally posing in the ring for over 15 seconds when he comes in. Btw, for those interested, the Brad Maddox Reality TV Show isn't shown any longer now that Maddox is actually an active wrestler. However, Brad Maddox is still awesome. Of course, Xavier Woods is always awesome too. Brad Maddox is literally swaggering in the ring when Xavier Woods is down. He's got so much charisma, and he'll be an awesome heel when his time comes in WWE. It's a good match and Brad Maddox definitely has skills in the ring. Brad Maddox wins it with his "Deal Breaker" DDT. It's pretty unique in that he stands at their side and drops them down so their head hits to the side of his body. If I find a video of it, I'll show it. Also, he has this sweet theme song:



Of course, since it's so great, that means he won't be keeping it in WWE. Bummer.

Speaking of bummers, Lucky Cannon is still employed in this edition. Maxine is freaking out because someone shoved his head in an ice machine. Damien Sandow is there too. Lucky Cannon proves he deserved to be released with his terrible acting. It's very apparent how terrible he is with great actors like Damien Sandow and Maxine there.

Anyway, next up we get Byron Saxton coming out to talk. Since it's Byron Saxton, it will be good. You guys remember how great Byron Saxton was, right? He talks about how he's going to expose Titus O'Neil as the fraud he is in their match coming up right now. I miss Titus's FCW theme. :( How did they not make THAT his theme instead of that boring rap song? JUST CALL ME TITUS O'NEEEEEEEIL! Anyway, it was a decent match. Titus eventually threw Byron to the outside and then into the time keeper's area. So Byron recovered and threw a chair at Titus, then ran away. So Titus wins by DQ.

Briley Pierce, AKA Dolph Ziggler's brother, interviews Dean Ambrose. His gimmick is that he's an excited upstart rookie. Dean Ambrose challenges Seth Rollins and he's pretty intense and weird. As expected, Dean Ambrose is good on the mic.

Then we get a backstage segment where FCW GM Norman Smiley talks to Alexander Rusev, a giant foreign tank of a man, and I think Racquel Diaz (AKA Daughter Guerrero). Maxine storms in, pissed off about Lucky Cannon being thrown into an ice machine and blames Norman for sucking at his job, then storms out. Not sure what the point of this was.

And then we get the FCW Diva's Championship match between Aksana (c) and Kaitlyn. My expectations are so low that they're drilling through the ground. And would you believe it... I'm actually... impressed. Kaitlyn is doing a good job. Aksana is.... managing. Daresay, I'm actually enjoying this match. Aksana wins clean with a backslide pin.

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Next up is the main event of Damien Sandow vs Bo Rotundo (c) for the Florida Heavyweight Championship! YES MY DAMIEN SANDOW! Bo Rotundo has always been "alright" to me. I've never been terribly impressed by him. "Holding the Florida Heavyweight Championship has a 100% success rate for making it into the WWE!" Until Lucky Cannon ruined that with his suck. Whoops. Damien Sandow is seriously great in this match. He's been smacking around Bo Rotundo and using the ring as a weapon constantly. He even covered him with the apron to beat on him. Damien Sandow is great like that. He's got great ring awareness, he makes his moves look vicious, even if it's a headlock, and he has such great ring charisma too. You can tell his emotions at all times. You can tell Damien Sandow carried this match, but he does such a damn good job of it. Eventually, Damien Sandow collides into the referee, knocking him out of the ring. Sandow nails Bo with a low blow, then nails his snap swinging neckbreaker, but the ref is down. Lucky Cannon runs out and takes off the referee's shirt, puts it on, and counts a fast three count. For some reason, they ring the bell and even play Sandow's music.

Then Norman Smiley runs out and restarts the match while Damien Sandow is clutching the title and yelling "NO! THIS IS MINE!" He refuses to let the referee take the title from him, then turns around right into the Spear from Bo. Sandow is then down and pinned. So Bo Rotundo retains! Then Lucky Cannon attacks Bo. Double team on Bo until Bo Rotundo's brother, Husky Harris, comes in for the save.

That's it for the show. Here's my highlights:

Xavier Woods vs Brad Maddox:

Damien Sandow vs Bo Rotundo:

Basically, people should see how Brad Maddox wrestles and the great potential he has. And then since I've been hyping the hell out of Damien Sandow, people should see what I'm talking about. Not only that, Damien Sandow's match was the MOTN easy.

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The main thing I was trying to figure out with the Maddox/Woods match is how come we haven't heard anything about the former Consequences Creed coming up.

I feel like Xavier Woods can use a bit more time in FCW, honestly. He's great, but he can use some polish. Also, he needs a bit of help on the mic still.

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FCW - July 10, 2011

Once again, we have Matt Martlaro and William Regal commentating. We have Husky Harris vs Lucky Cannon and a fourway match to decide the number one contender for the Florida Heavyweight Championship.

We start with arrrrrgh Calvin Raines & arrrrrrgh Big E. Langston (c) vs Tito Colon (AKA Epico) & Percy Watsonin a non-title match. Calvin Raines was released, and rightfully so, but Big E. Langston is still in FCW for some reason despite being completely terrible. The reason is probably because he is a large, musclebound man. Tito and Percy Watson seem like they're an actual team, unlike Langston and Raines. LMFAO Tito Colon dodges an elbow from Calvin Raines Calvin Raines and is rolling around, then Big E. Langston runs in and delivers an elbow drop nowhere near Tito or where Tito was. Even Matt Martlaro is laughing at it. The referee doesn't mind that everybody is in the ring right now for some reason. Calvin Raines and Big E. Langston is just bad. That's all there is to it. Calvin Raines locks in a leglock and tags in Langston. Langston then proceeds to awkwardly walk over, stares at Tito, then punches him in the face. Why is this guy still here? END THIS MATCH GOD DAMNIT. XD Calvin Raines is tagged in, holds Tito for Langston, and then Langston proceeds to yell something at Tito, then walks out of the ring. WHY IS THIS GUY STILL HERE? Anyway, this match ends mercifully when Percy Watson gets a victory roll on Big E. for the win.

Next up is Briley Pierce interviewing Alexander Rusev and Racquel Diaz. Lil' Ziggler really isn't good at this. It's alright though because Racquel Diaz isn't very good though. She gives a promo about how they'll both tear up the ring, and since Racquel Diaz comes from a lineage of wrestlers, she'll be bringing wrestling excellence every week! (Spoilers: She won't.)

Bo Rotundo and Husky Harris are in a pre-taped interview with Matt Martlaro. It's really corny. Husky Harris talks about how they wrestled on trampolines... they joke around a bit, mostly. It wasn't good.

But now we get Hunico vs Dean Ambrose, with Dean being extremely weird on his way to the ring. Hunico... well, he's a luchadore still. Dean Ambrose looks weird to me only because he doesn't wear any sort of tape, wrist band, or elbow pad on his arms. Dean is stumbling around and twitching in the ring. He's a bit uncomfortable to watch, kind of. But I'm sure that's the point. Hah, he has a funny elbow drop where he bounces off the ropes, stops in front of the opponent, then twitches and swings around in a snap elbow drop. Woah, Hunico did a rolling Death Valley Driver. Why the hell doesn't he use that now? Dean hits Hunico with a big clothesline, then freaks out, which was slightly uncomfortable to watch, and then he shoots Hunico in the head with a finger gun and nails the Emerald Frosion for the win. He grabs the mic then and yells for Seth Rollins. He says that he knows that Seth Rollins is afraid he can't beat Dean. lol It's funny since he's clearly nuts. He tells Seth that he can't run forever, then gets all twitchy. Fun match.

Lucky Cannon's theme graces us with its presence, and then Lucky Cannon comes by to ruin it. Anyway, we have Husky Harris vs Lucky Cannon now. Lucky Cannon controls the match for a few minutes before Husky Harris comes back, crushes him with his ass a few times, then nails the Senton for the win. SQUASHED. You can tell Lucky Cannon is going out the door at this point.

Briley Pierce interviews Byron Saxton now, who is wearing a sling. Briley's voice annoys me. He sounds like a more nasally Evan Bourne. Byron Saxton says that Titus O'Neil called Byron to get him in FCW and that Titus let the success get to his head. He says that Titus repaid him by hurting his arm, then says he will be his nightmare. Great promo.

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Our fatal fourway for number one contendership starts with Mason Ryan coming out. Oh gooooood. The best part was that I got to hear WE ARE ONE again. Then Johnny Curtis comes around and is disappointing not going to be getting weird. :( Then there's LEAKEE(EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!) and finally Seth Rollins. So basically, it's Mason Ryan vs Johnny Curtis vs Leakee vs Seth Rollins. And it'll be up to Curtis and Rollins to make this match good. God speed, you brave souls. Luckily, they both make it great. There's tons of awesome double team moves in this match that essentially take out Mason Ryan early. Mason Ryan eventually comes back to crush everybody. Three different guys try to superplex Johnny Curtis. As Leakee tries, Seth Rollins nails a powerbomb on him, and then Curtis nails a diving leg drop on Seth Rollins, then pins Leakee for the win! He's the new number one contender! And that's it for the show.

Highlights:

Hunico vs Dean Ambrose:

Byron Saxton Interview:

I think Dean Ambrose's first match is a good hightlight, especially since it shows you just what he's like. And then Byron Saxton's promo deserves to be seen since he's such a damn good promo guy, and he should really go places in WWE.

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FCW - July 17, 2011

We have Matt Martlaro and William Regal again. Our events are Calvin Raines & Big E. Langston defending their titles against Percy Watson and Tito Colon. Alexander Rusev is also debuting. And then we have Johnny Curtis vs Bo Rotundo for the Florida Heavyweight Title.

Our first match is Ricardo Rodriguez (HYPE HYPE HYPE) vs Richie Steamboat. ...Man, I really don't want to root against Richie in this match... but it's Ricardo! Ricardo is very good in the ring, btw. In case anybody wasn't aware. He has a ton of awesome moves. Richie hit the Tiger Bomb though, which was SWEET. Ricardo runs into a superkick though that gets Richie the win. :( Aww, Ricardo...

Next up is Briley Pierce who continues to be annoying while he interviews Bo Rotundo. Bo Rotundo talks about facing Johnny Curtis, but Bo Rotundo is... weird. I dunno, I don't like him.

Then Briley Pierce interviews Johnny Curtis. He says he respects Bo, but respect goes out the window tonight. Yup.

Now we get another probable pain-striking match between Calvin Raines & Big. E Langston (c) vs Percy Watson & Tito Colon. This match isn't interesting because it's all Raines and Langston. Eventually the ref is distracted by Percy trying to get in the ring, and then Langston hits the Big Ending powerslam on Tito, allowing Raines to pin Tito. They retain. I die a bit inside.

Briley then interviews Audrey Marie and Sonia. Audrey is very, very southern and stereotypical. Sonia is kind of... not good at talking. Doesn't matter though, because Sonia is released by this time!

But now we get Audrey Marie & Sonia vs AJ Lee & Aksana. I... I don't know who is the heel. lmao The referee at the start of the match spends half a minute trying to get the timekeeper to ring the f***ing bell. Oh, Audrey grabs AJ's hair from ringside, so I guess that her team is the heel. Yeah, Audrey isn't that good in the ring. Sonia is... alright. Aksana is still very bad. Aksana hits the worst roundhouse kick ever to get the pin on Audrey. That was definitely a match that I saw.

Racquel Diaz announces Alexander Rusev for his debut match. He is monstrous. Some long haired loser named Mike Dalton is our jobber for the day. Holy s*** this guy is good. He just threw this guy around the ring constantly, and he's FAST. He finished it by running over, grabbing Dalton in a waistlock, and then throwing him back in a German Suplex. Seriously, Alexander Rusev is impressive. He'll go places.

Next up is Johnny Curtis vs Bo Rotundo for the Florida Heavyweight Championship! Things are going to get weeeeeird. But not really. There's dueling "Let's go Johnny! Let's go Bo!" chants. Bo hurts his knee when he lands hard on the outside. Somehow Johnny Curtis kicks out of the Spear, which was pretty cool. And then Bo Rotundo kicks out of the Diving Leg Drop. It's like a Kurt Angle match now! Johnny Curtis then nails a Spear, and it's DEFINITELY a Kurt Angle match now. Meaning I find it silly. Curtis misses another Diving Leg Drop attempt though. Bo hits another Spear for the win though. Eh, it wasn't as good of a match as I thought it would be.

Highlight:

Alexander Rusev vs Mike Dalton:

This is really it for this episode. Just check out what a beast Rusev is.

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So, Zack Ryder is getting a DVD. Before Daniel Bryan and co.

...I love Ryder but I literally cannot think of enough Ryder matches to fill an entire DVD, unless they spend 30 minutes with footage of him learning how to change a tire.

maybe they have all his dark matches on there.

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Maybe this is just the first DVD volume of Z!TLIS.

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unless they spend 30 minutes with footage of him learning how to change a tire.

Well, this footage IS available!

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Maybe this is just the first DVD volume of Z!TLIS.

I'd be surprised if it wasn't this. Zack just doesn't have many good matches under his belt right now.

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Angelina Love just tweeted a link to a dailymotion video of one of her older TNA PPV matches. Wonder how management feels about that!

Why would they care?

Also yeah, Hogan has a screw loose. This is the POWERS THAT BE only instead of it being the angle its just sort of like weird. Like what would TNA use writers for in kayfabe?

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Why would they care?

Because they offer a pay service that gives you old TNA PPV matches?

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FCW - July 24, 2011

We've got Matt Martlaro and William Regal again. Our main event is Calvin Raines, Big E. Langston, & Alexander Rusev vs Bo Rotundo, Leakee(EEEEEE), & Richie Steamboat. Yaaaay.

Uh, apparently Dean Martin, the dean of Florida University, is coming out. He isn't the dean, because he's giving Byron Saxton an award! lmao Byron Saxton comes out in an entire cap and gown graduation garb. That's great. The dean gives him a "Most Valuable Alumni" award. Should be Alumnus, btw. Byron is acting like a little kid since he won it. Oh god, they have Emmit Smith praising Byron Saxton in the backdrop of a fake BYRON SAXTON STADIUM. XD All the while, Byron's face is like :D. Then a teacher talks about how Byron was her favorite student with a backdrop of a classroom with a chalkboard written with "BYRON SAXTON IS A NAUGHTY BOY" on it. Byron thanks his kindergarten teacher, his cats, Mimi and Sparkles, and his neice... and then Titus O'Neil. He says that Titus should leave and never return. Titus comes out, and luckily Byron escapes by his lackeys, James Bronson (NON-CONSENSUAL ENTERTAINMENT) and Erik Rowan (I dunno). That was entertaining.

Then Husky Harris and Monty Lynch face off. I'm going to go ahead and assume that Monty Lynch loses because he has never won a match. That, and he was released. Husky looks good in this match though, with tons of power moves. He finishes it fast with the Senton.

Briley Pierce interviews Rick Victor. He's a Hart Dungeon grad... but they didn't teach him to talk on the mic, unfortunately. He rants at Seth Rollins and does some generic tough guy speak. And he will leave Seth Rollins SCARRED......... for eternity. (This was bad.)

Next up is Tito Colon (Epico, remember?) vs Dean Ambrose. It's amazing what mustache and cornrows do to make you look like a tough guy. Dean uses the Union Jack Cutter and Regal mentions he invented that move. But we all know Chavo Guerrero invented that move. After he stole it from Chris Jericho. Regal enjoys calling Dean Ambrose a nutter. lmao Ambrose selling is hilarious. Anyway, the finish comes when Dean hangs on the ropes when Tito goes for the Backstabber, and then Dean kicks him in his leg, snaps his neck off the ropes, hits a clothesline, looks freaky, then finishes it with the Emerald Frosion. Ambrose is seriously freaky looking, for real. He's just stomping around like a weirdo. He grabs a mic and then tells Seth Rollins to accept his challenge since he wants to beat him bloody and put himself in his own league.

Oh f***, Leo Kruger is back. Ugh. Leo Kruger vs Xavier Woods next. I don't care for Leo Kruger. Surprisingly, Leo doesn't do as bad as I remember him doing. Xavier Woods is superior, of course. But Leo held his own. Leo worked on the leg and Xavier fought against that. Xavier went for a schoolboy when Leo leaned back and held onto Xavier's bad leg for the pinfall. Pretty good match.

And now we have a Damien Sandow promo (w/ Briley Pierce)! YES! He shows why he's the best promo guy in FCW by talking about how he deserved to have the Florida Heavyweight Title. THANK YOU FOR YOUR IRRELEVANT OPINION. Damien Sandow gets hyped and says he will be the FCW Champion! He's intense as hell... and then when he's done, he leans back and grins arrogantly.

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Here is our six man tag. Calvin Raines, Big E. Langston, & Alexander Rusev vs Bo Rotundo, Leakee(EEEEEE), & Richie Steamboat. I'm not really that excited since I like exactly 2/6 people in this match. (Cookie to whoever guesses the two). Rusev starts off and breaks everyone. But then he tags in Big E. Langston. :( Christ, Big E. Langston sucks at everything. Ugh. This crowd seriously adores Bo Rotundo for some reason. Langston takes the pin when Bo Rotundo nails the Spear when the ring was cleared. Well, good for them I guess.

Highlights:

Damien Sandow's Promo:

Byron Saxton "Most Valuable Alumni":

So Damien Sandow deserves his awesome promo to be seen. And Byron Saxton is golden and hams it up really well in his segment. You should remember why Byron Saxton is so awesome!

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guess: rusev and steamboat

From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #138
He's a Hart Dungeon grad... but they didn't teach him to talk on the mic, unfortunately.

From the department of redundancy department.

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guess: rusev and steamboat

Ding ding ding

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Is there usually an AIM chat during Raw?

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Is there usually an AIM chat during Raw?

b8watchesraw

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oh god

did Michael Cole drop the U-word

... I guess Vince doesn't care if he got Brock back

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well then

that was fannntastic

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Oh god plz win Mark Henry plz win.

Punk/Jericho can have a non-title match at Extreme Rules, I don't care. SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET THEIR ASS KICKED!!!!

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was that an Albert chant?

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ninkendo posted...
It doesn't matter what decade it is, the stooges are always funny

those are not the Stooges.

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