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voltch
04/23/12 12:40:00 PM
#101:


From: Jakyl25 | #099
50.) The Bushwhackers
49.) The Mega Powers
48.) Tony Atlas/Rocky Johnson
47.) Paul London/Brian Kendrick
46.) The Headshrinkers
45.) The Twin Towers
44.) The Moondogs
43.) Booker T/Goldust
42.) The Killer Bees
41.) The Steiner Brothers




So many baaaaad teams.

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 12:41:00 PM
#102:


I know I'll catch hell for this, but I don't see what in kayfabe makes BookDust better than Londrick. <_<

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voltch
04/23/12 12:42:00 PM
#103:


Going by Kayfabe, Mega Powers should b way higher.

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Sir Cobain
04/23/12 12:42:00 PM
#104:


booker t's got a sword

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 12:44:00 PM
#105:


Well what hurts the Mega Powers is that they weren't around long and didn't win any titles.

Cena and Undertaker teamed up once on Raw. That could very well be the most powerful kayfabe tag team ever, but I doubt they're on this list. <_<

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DeathChicken
04/23/12 12:47:00 PM
#106:


The Twin Towers were underrated. I love their match at Wrestlemania 5, where they spend the whole thing flinging each other around seeing how many creative ways they can squish the Rockers

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 12:50:00 PM
#107:


Poll: What will be the highest-ranking team that never held any tag titles?

So far it's the Killer Bees, but I doubt they're the highest.

Cryme Tyme? The Powers of Pain?

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DeathChicken
04/23/12 12:52:00 PM
#108:


The Mega Bucks, because Andre the Giant

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DeathChicken
04/23/12 12:53:00 PM
#109:


Although he has another team with Haku to make it on there with that *did* win the titles

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 12:53:00 PM
#110:


Wait, I'm an idiot.

THE ROCKERS.

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 12:56:00 PM
#111:


Also I wonder how many people can crack the list twice.

HBK is a lock with the Rockers and DX.

Edge is very probable with E&C and Rated RKO.

Morrison has a shot with MNM and Miz/Morrison.

Billy Gunn could conceivably get on there three times!

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Lopen
04/23/12 12:57:00 PM
#112:


Entertainment counts in kayfabe too

That's why Bookdust beats Londrick

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DeathChicken
04/23/12 12:59:00 PM
#113:


I hope the Beverly Brothers are on there, just for having the most disgusting finisher ever



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PrivateBiscuit1
04/23/12 1:00:00 PM
#114:


Obviously Booker T is a lock for two as well.

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 1:01:00 PM
#115:


Sorry to disappoint, but they used the Beverly Brothers as an example of a team that would make it if the list was all-encompassing across wrestling history, but missed out since this specific list only includes WWE accomplishments.

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 1:04:00 PM
#116:


From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #114
Obviously Booker T is a lock for two as well.


They also specifically said "No Harlem Heat" <__<

"Hold up. Don't post that comment just yet. Before you cover the WWE Universe's Facebook wall with missives like "What about Harlem Heat???," take a moment to read the guidelines the WWE Classics team followed when compiling this list.

1. Only WWE teams were eligible. Meaning no Gangstas, no Sting & Lex Luger and no Mulkey Brothers (sorry, Matt Striker).

2. Teams were rated only on their accomplishments while in WWE, so the achievements of The Beverly Brothers in the AWA had no bearing on their placement (or lack thereof) here.

3. Eligibility began with the first recognized World Tag Team Champions, Luke Graham & Tarzan Tyler, who won the titles on June 3, 1971.

4. Rankings were based on everything from longevity to cultural impact. Personal biases may have also crept in, as witnessed by an extended argument over the significance of Tony Garea & Dean Ho.

Okay, now that that's out of the way, here are the 50 greatest tag teams in WWE history as decided by a team of editors, a WWE Hall of Famer and a prevailing consensus that Too Cool ruled."


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PrivateBiscuit1
04/23/12 1:06:00 PM
#117:


Oh. That's lame. I also didn't bother to look at anything but the first ten you posted, so I was unaware of the rules!

In any case, probably Kane then.

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muddersmilk
04/23/12 1:07:00 PM
#118:


So how many teams from the last decade will be ranked waaaay higher than they should be in order to make it seem like the division hasn't been pathetic.

I expect Prino&Epico, Jerishow, Miz/Big Show, Cryme Tyme, and Gabrial/Slater at least. Usos might make the next batch of teams.

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 1:08:00 PM
#119:


Kane/Taker and Kane/???

Hurricane?

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SmartMuffin
04/23/12 1:09:00 PM
#120:


Rated RKO? Seriously? Weren't they together for like a whole two months before Edge got injured? Londrick is more accomplished than them...

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muddersmilk
04/23/12 1:09:00 PM
#121:


HurriKane.

So does Kronik have a shot of making the list due to their Invasion stuff?

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 1:11:00 PM
#122:


No, they were together for like 6 or 7 months, and won a Tag Title together.

Triple H got injured a couple months into the Rated RKO/DX feud, maybe that's what you're thinking of.

Neither Edge nor Orton got injured to end the team.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/23/12 1:12:00 PM
#123:


Kane/Taker, HurriKane, and RVD/Kane.

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 1:12:00 PM
#124:


From: muddersmilk | #121
So does Kronik have a shot of making the list due to their Invasion stuff?


Well, the Bushwhackers are established as the gatekeepers.

Would you put KroniK ahead of the Bushwhackers? <_<

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 1:14:00 PM
#125:


From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #123
Kane/Taker, HurriKane, and RVD/Kane.


I think that's some wishful thinking.

MAYBE if either Hurricane or RVD were currently in WWE's good graces I could see it.

But neither team really deserves to be on the list objectively, and they're not going to give artificial bumps to guys who AREN'T on good terms.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/23/12 1:15:00 PM
#126:


Also, what about Jericho?

Jericho and Christian, JeriShow, and Jericho and Edge

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 1:18:00 PM
#127:


Jericho and Benoit!

I think Vitamin C has the best chance, and Jeri-Show MIGHT make it, but if neither team cracks the next 10, I don't see them in the top 30.

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muddersmilk
04/23/12 1:19:00 PM
#128:


Would you put KroniK ahead of the Bushwhackers? <_<

In a heartbeat.

Of course I hate the bushwhackers and really liked KroniK.

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WarThaNemesis2
04/23/12 1:20:00 PM
#129:


In terms of WWE performance I wouldn't even put KroniK above Public Enemy. >_>

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 1:21:00 PM
#130:


Even KroniK solely based on their WWE matches?

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EmDubyaSee
04/23/12 1:22:00 PM
#131:


So, I think most of us (and those who disagree, I don't really care, you are wrong) can safely say Christian and Edge will be, and SHOULD be #1. What do we think the rest of the top 10 is? Rock and Sock, Hart Foundation. DX, Hardyz, Dudleys, LoD, New Age Outlaws?

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 1:23:00 PM
#132:


Another query:

Owen Hart/British Bulldog deserve a spot on the list. WWE is skittish but not TOTALLY averse to referencing Owen Hart. Will they be recognized?

(If so that's an obvious 2 teams for Bulldog)

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Lopen
04/23/12 1:24:00 PM
#133:


I bet Owen also has two getting that and the Owen/Yoko team.

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 1:30:00 PM
#134:


From: EmDubyaSee | #131
So, I think most of us (and those who disagree, I don't really care, you are wrong) can safely say Christian and Edge will be, and SHOULD be #1. What do we think the rest of the top 10 is? Rock and Sock, Hart Foundation. DX, Hardyz, Dudleys, LoD, New Age Outlaws?


IMO, Top Seven should objectively be (in no particular order)

E&C
Hardyz
Dudleyz
Hart Foundation
Demolition
New Age Outlaws
Wild Samoans

Then you get into some more subjectivity rounding out the Top Ten. DX is iconic more for being a stable than a tag team, but WWE has treated them as a team since 2006, and they do have a reign. Rock 'n' Sock has 3 reigns, but was very short-lived. The Legion of Doom were past their prime by the time they entered WWE, but they do have 2 reigns, and some historical bias might slip through since they are the biggest tag team draw of all-time counting their work elsewhere.

So I'm really not sure.

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DeathChicken
04/23/12 1:32:00 PM
#135:


I feel like the Quebecers should be on there, via hanging on to the belts for what seems like goddamn ever

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 1:34:00 PM
#136:


Oh I'm sure they'll be in the upper half of the list.

Or did you mean Top Ten? <_<

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DeathChicken
04/23/12 1:36:00 PM
#137:


Yeah, I'd put them top ten just for being a team that kayfabe beat everyone at that time. They repeatedly made monkeys of the Steiners, which I can't imagine is kayfabe easy

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muddersmilk
04/23/12 1:39:00 PM
#138:


Jakyl25 posted...
Even KroniK solely based on their WWE matches?

Hey, they were champs and had some success!

(I fully admit to this being a biased opinion)

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 1:40:00 PM
#139:


They were not champs in WWE!

Completely pointless minutiae: I wonder how La Resistance will be counted? Grenier/Dupree had a reign, and then Grenier/Conway had 3 more. One big unit like the Moondogs, or separate entries (which would probably mean no Grenier/Dupree).

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04/23/12 1:50:00 PM
#140:


From: DeathChicken | #106
The Twin Towers were underrated.


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muddersmilk
04/23/12 1:59:00 PM
#141:


Jakyl25 posted...
They were not champs in WWE!

I could have sworn they held tag titles during the Invasion. Or are the WCW tag titles not counted prior to unification?

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Dr_Football
04/23/12 2:04:00 PM
#142:


That has reminded me

Where are Cade and Murdoch gonna be on the list?

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 2:15:00 PM
#143:


From: muddersmilk | #141
I could have sworn they held tag titles during the Invasion. Or are the WCW tag titles not counted prior to unification?


They never held any titles during Invasion.

I hope Cade and Murdoch are in the next 10, which is about where they belong.

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muddersmilk
04/23/12 2:26:00 PM
#144:


They never held any titles during Invasion.

And this is why Stump the Maniac will be amazingly bad.

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Lopen
04/23/12 2:32:00 PM
#145:


I didn't even like the Twin Towers but I find myself wanting that shirt.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/23/12 2:55:00 PM
#146:


FCW - December 18, 2011

Maxine comes out to address the FCW lockerroom and said that Husky and Richie are not in the building because they have both defied her rule about not fighting. ...And that's pretty much it.

Oh my god, some major f***ing nerd is doing the ring announcements. Hoooooly crap. Like wow, this is the biggest nerd ever. Jesus god. Anyway, the first match is Titus O'Neil, Percy Watson, & CJ Parker vs Derrick Bateman, Rick Victor, & Corey Graves. CJ Parker's tights are less obnoxious. However, he is still very obnoxious himself.

Chris: Did he just pull down the rope?
Byron: Ahahahahaaaa... No, that Percy Watson is just a clumsy guy,

Not a good match, but serviceable. The finish comes when Titus nails the Clash of the Titus on Corey Graves, then throws CJ Parker on Graves for the pin. Yaaay...

Byron: Oh yeah, that was real cute. He did the dog bark on the top rope. Yaaaaaaay.

lmao Byron has the same reaction for CJ Parker winning anything that I do!

Holy crap, Abraham Washington has just turned mega heel. He's blinging it up with a nice suit and glasses, and then he says he realizes that after Leo Kruger cheated him out of the title that he will have to start worrying about winning for himself now. Because if it don't make dollar, then it don't make sense. Also, he has a ho with him now. Some blonde chick. Doing research, it's Summer Rae. Anyway, the segment was pretty good. I said Abe needs to quit being so much like The Rock, and this will probably do it.

Hey, it's Xavier Woods again! He's saying he feels good. And he wants to sing a song with us. Good Job! Good Job! *clap clap* Good job! Good job! *clap clap* G-O-O-D J-O-B! Good job! Good Job! *clap clap* ...Yeah. He's Xavier, our savior, and he'll make sure you don't get lost... in the woods. Wtf was that? Anyway, it's Xavier Woods vs Colin Cassady. Xavier's lack of Dee Jay tights is the saddest thing about this match though. Colin Cassady is so bad though. They let Colin control most of the match, which is weak since he kinda sucks. He nails his awesome snap flatliner thing, called Lost in the Woods, and gets the win.

Dean Ambrose gives a speech about how he's a monster because he doesn't afraid of anything. I was highly amused.

Next up is Aksana (c) vs Raquel Diaz for the Queen of FCW Title. ....Oh my god, this is going to be bad. I've seen more convincing women's wrestling in a southern mud wrestling match. Oh lord, they let Raquel use the Three Amigos. She does like, the sloppiest Gory Bomb ever to finish Aksana off. Raquel Diaz is now the Queen of FCW. Whatever.

Our main event is here with Leo Kruger (c) vs Seth Rollins for the Florida Heavyweight Championship! Pretty good match so far. There was a weird spot where Leo Kruger was whipped to the ropes, but held onto them, but Seth did a backflip. ...Not sure what move you would go for if you were doing a backflip. Byron is so great that he can even make his criticisms sound like compliments. So pro. He does an awesome job in this match too. Antonio Cesaro gets involved eventually, giving Leo the chance to try using his championship to hit Seth. However, Rollins ducks and then hits a victory roll. Leo kicks out and sends Seth towards the ropes where Antonio European Uppercuts him and then puts a finger to his lips and goes "Shhhhhh." Leo locks in the Rear Naked Choke for the win. Good match. I expected more.

Highlights:

Abraham Washington Promo -

Dean Ambrose Promo -

Might as well check out Abraham Washington's new look and change. It's unique. And then there's a great Dean Ambrose promo. Why wouldn't you check it out?

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04/23/12 2:59:00 PM
#147:


From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #146
There was a weird spot where Leo Kruger was whipped to the ropes, but held onto them, but Seth did a backflip. ...Not sure what move you would go for if you were doing a backflip.


This is something he did all the time in the indies.

It looked silly then, too.

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SmartMuffin
04/23/12 3:09:00 PM
#148:


Cade and Murdoch won't make it. That would require them to reference one of their guys dying recently, dying young, and dying largely because of drugs.

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04/23/12 3:12:00 PM
#149:


Lance Cade is dead?

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JaKyL25
04/23/12 3:13:00 PM
#150:


Yes

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