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KingCrabCake 05/04/17 10:12:47 AM #1:	...yes? No? --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:878453574] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>...yes? No?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedZaraki 05/04/17 10:13:51 AM #2:	We all pay for roads. We all pay for the military. We all pay for water. I don't think this is that different, honestly. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6xlumGoB3A <cite>RedZaraki posted [p:878453627] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>We all pay for roads. We all pay for the military. We all pay for water. I don't think this is that different, honestly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 05/04/17 10:14:20 AM #3:	No, it's not. Health care is a luxury the same way having a home, clothes,food and bathrooms are. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:878453648] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>No, it's not. Health care is a luxury the same way having a home, clothes,food and bathrooms are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 05/04/17 10:15:09 AM #5:	Yes, the same way people already pay into the system. Ya know, taxes. --- #FeelTheBernieSanders <cite>lilORANG posted [p:878453690] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>Yes, the same way people already pay into the system. Ya know, taxes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/04/17 10:17:06 AM #6:	RedZaraki posted... We all pay for water. That one isn't really compulsory at all. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:878453773] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>RedZaraki posted...</cite> <quote>We all pay for water.</quote> That one isn't really compulsory at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedZaraki 05/04/17 10:18:17 AM #7:	Questionmarktarius posted... RedZaraki posted... We all pay for water. That one isn't really compulsory at all. I mean, there's a connection fee even if you use zero water. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6xlumGoB3A <cite>RedZaraki posted [p:878453814] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RedZaraki posted...</cite> <quote>We all pay for water.</quote> That one isn't really compulsory at all.</quote> I mean, there's a connection fee even if you use zero water.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/04/17 10:19:04 AM #8:	RedZaraki posted... Questionmarktarius posted... RedZaraki posted... We all pay for water. That one isn't really compulsory at all. I mean, there's a connection fee even if you use zero water. Call the water office and cancel service. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:878453851] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>RedZaraki posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RedZaraki posted...</cite> <quote>We all pay for water.</quote> That one isn't really compulsory at all.</quote> I mean, there's a connection fee even if you use zero water.</quote> Call the water office and cancel service.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 05/04/17 10:22:05 AM #9:	tremain07 posted... No, it's not. Health care is a luxury the same way having a home, clothes,food and bathrooms are. Yep, not dying is a luxury. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:878454004] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>No, it's not. Health care is a luxury the same way having a home, clothes,food and bathrooms are.</quote> Yep, not dying is a luxury.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 05/04/17 10:23:00 AM #10:	No, and I would never support any type of universal healthcare system. Not even so much because of the healthcare itself, but once you compromise on the this the Bernie Sanders types will start wanting more and declaring college tuition, paid maternity leave, etc. to all be rights and ruin the country --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:878454044] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>No, and I would never support any type of universal healthcare system. Not even so much because of the healthcare itself, but once you compromise on the this the Bernie Sanders types will start wanting more and declaring college tuition, paid maternity leave, etc. to all be rights and ruin the country</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 05/04/17 10:24:00 AM #11:	ScazarMeltex posted... tremain07 posted... No, it's not. Health care is a luxury the same way having a home, clothes,food and bathrooms are. Yep, not dying is a luxury. Pretty much. fucked up but true for a country like america, don't like it, move to a country with universal health care. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:878454090] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>No, it's not. Health care is a luxury the same way having a home, clothes,food and bathrooms are.</quote> Yep, not dying is a luxury.</quote> Pretty much. fucked up but true for a country like america, don't like it, move to a country with universal health care.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 05/04/17 10:24:15 AM #12:	RedZaraki posted... We all pay for roads. We all pay for the military. We all pay for water. I don't think this is that different, honestly. This. Questionmarktarius posted... That one isn't really compulsory at all. Where do you live where tax dollars haven't paid for water infrastructure? --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:878454103] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>RedZaraki posted...</cite> <quote>We all pay for roads. We all pay for the military. We all pay for water. I don't think this is that different, honestly.</quote> This. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>That one isn't really compulsory at all. </quote> Where do you live where tax dollars haven't paid for water infrastructure?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AugustAdoulin 05/04/17 10:24:48 AM #13:	DifferentialEquation posted... No, and I would never support any type of universal healthcare system. Not even so much because of the healthcare itself, but once you compromise on the this the Bernie Sanders types will start wanting more and declaring college tuition, paid maternity leave, etc. to all be rights and ruin the country So? Other countries have all of these things and haven't been ruined. How can they manage it when America can't? <cite>AugustAdoulin posted [p:878454133] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>No, and I would never support any type of universal healthcare system. Not even so much because of the healthcare itself, but once you compromise on the this the Bernie Sanders types will start wanting more and declaring college tuition, paid maternity leave, etc. to all be rights and ruin the country</quote> So? Other countries have all of these things and haven't been ruined. How can they manage it when America can't?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 05/04/17 10:25:45 AM #14:	Do all those other countries have America's population? --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:878454178] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>Do all those other countries have America's population?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 05/04/17 10:26:30 AM #15:	DifferentialEquation posted... No, and I would never support any type of universal healthcare system. Not even so much because of the healthcare itself, but once you compromise on the this the Bernie Sanders types will start wanting more and declaring college tuition, paid maternity leave, etc. to all be rights and ruin the country Wow that's petty --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:878454209] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>No, and I would never support any type of universal healthcare system. Not even so much because of the healthcare itself, but once you compromise on the this the Bernie Sanders types will start wanting more and declaring college tuition, paid maternity leave, etc. to all be rights and ruin the country</quote> Wow that's petty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 05/04/17 10:27:40 AM #16:	tremain07 posted... Do all those other countries have America's population? Do all those other countries have America's economy? but so you think it breaks down on high scales? --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:878454258] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>Do all those other countries have America's population?</quote> Do all those other countries have America's economy? but so you think it breaks down on high scales?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 05/04/17 10:27:56 AM #17:	So people who think everyone should have it because its a right....do you feel the same about guns --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:878454274] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>So people who think everyone should have it because its a right....do you feel the same about guns</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
krazychao5 05/04/17 10:29:20 AM #18:	I think you should choose what's best for you. Don't need healthcare? Don't be taxed... --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/bigllama?type=posted <cite>krazychao5 posted [p:878454343] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>I think you should choose what's best for you. Don't need healthcare? Don't be taxed...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AugustAdoulin 05/04/17 10:29:47 AM #19:	tremain07 posted... Do all those other countries have America's population? Why should that matter? As long as people are paying taxes it should scale up accordingly. That's how taxation is supposed to work. <cite>AugustAdoulin posted [p:878454365] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>Do all those other countries have America's population?</quote> Why should that matter? As long as people are paying taxes it should scale up accordingly. That's how taxation is supposed to work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 05/04/17 10:29:59 AM #20:	KingCrabCake posted... So people who think everyone should have it because its a right....do you feel the same about guns Yes actually. I think the Swiss model is a great idea. Anyone that wants should be able to get a subsidized AR and training to protect their home and country. I have pretty complicated views on firearms. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:878454375] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>So people who think everyone should have it because its a right....do you feel the same about guns</quote> Yes actually. I think the Swiss model is a great idea. Anyone that wants should be able to get a subsidized AR and training to protect their home and country. I have pretty complicated views on firearms.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 05/04/17 10:32:37 AM #21:	AugustAdoulin posted... tremain07 posted... Do all those other countries have America's population? Why should that matter? As long as people are paying taxes it should scale up accordingly. That's how taxation is supposed to work. Because Americans don't want to pay those costs to strangers especially with how big we are. In America, you only owe yourself to your family and your friends and strangers can get the finger, is it really any surprise Americans recoil in disgust when this keeps coming up? Especially successful americans who have alot of money or barely any money as it is? --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:878454492] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>AugustAdoulin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>Do all those other countries have America's population?</quote> Why should that matter? As long as people are paying taxes it should scale up accordingly. That's how taxation is supposed to work.</quote> Because Americans don't want to pay those costs to strangers especially with how big we are. In America, you only owe yourself to your family and your friends and strangers can get the finger, is it really any surprise Americans recoil in disgust when this keeps coming up? Especially successful americans who have alot of money or barely any money as it is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 05/04/17 10:34:07 AM #22:	Questionmarktarius posted... That one isn't really compulsory at all. Our taxes pay for the government to take care of our water supply, even if you don't pay any water bill. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:878454564] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>That one isn't really compulsory at all.</quote> Our taxes pay for the government to take care of our water supply, even if you don't pay any water bill.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/04/17 10:34:08 AM #23:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Where do you live where tax dollars haven't paid for water infrastructure? And much like roads, there's no more "right" to free water than there is a right to a free car. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:878454566] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Where do you live where tax dollars haven't paid for water infrastructure?</quote> And much like roads, there's no more "right" to free water than there is a right to a free car.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedZaraki 05/04/17 10:34:38 AM #24:	Questionmarktarius posted... RedZaraki posted... Questionmarktarius posted... RedZaraki posted... We all pay for water. That one isn't really compulsory at all. I mean, there's a connection fee even if you use zero water. Call the water office and cancel service. But then you won't have it when you need it. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6xlumGoB3A <cite>RedZaraki posted [p:878454595] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RedZaraki posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RedZaraki posted...</cite> <quote>We all pay for water.</quote> That one isn't really compulsory at all.</quote> I mean, there's a connection fee even if you use zero water.</quote> Call the water office and cancel service.</quote> But then you won't have it when you need it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l Dudeboy l 05/04/17 10:35:20 AM #25:	Americans are more than happy paying for people to be to be killed overseas, but hate the idea of looking after their own countrymen. --- You are now breathing manually. Lets put a little lead in the air, and see what falls over. <cite>l Dudeboy l posted [p:878454632] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>Americans are more than happy paying for people to be to be killed overseas, but hate the idea of looking after their own countrymen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedZaraki 05/04/17 10:35:57 AM #26:	DifferentialEquation posted... No, and I would never support any type of universal healthcare system. Not even so much because of the healthcare itself, but once you compromise on the this the Bernie Sanders types will start wanting more and declaring college tuition, paid maternity leave, etc. to all be rights and ruin the country You mean make the country awesome? Honestly, those are all good policies that most people would appreciate. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6xlumGoB3A <cite>RedZaraki posted [p:878454667] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>No, and I would never support any type of universal healthcare system. Not even so much because of the healthcare itself, but once you compromise on the this the Bernie Sanders types will start wanting more and declaring college tuition, paid maternity leave, etc. to all be rights and ruin the country</quote> You mean make the country awesome? Honestly, those are all good policies that most people would appreciate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AugustAdoulin 05/04/17 10:36:36 AM #27:	tremain07 posted... AugustAdoulin posted... tremain07 posted... Do all those other countries have America's population? Why should that matter? As long as people are paying taxes it should scale up accordingly. That's how taxation is supposed to work. Because Americans don't want to pay those costs to strangers especially with how big we are. In America, you only owe yourself to your family and your friends and strangers can get the finger, is it really any surprise Americans recoil in disgust when this keeps coming up? Especially successful americans who have alot of money or barely any money as it is? We pay for other people's social security... <cite>AugustAdoulin posted [p:878454695] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AugustAdoulin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>Do all those other countries have America's population?</quote> Why should that matter? As long as people are paying taxes it should scale up accordingly. That's how taxation is supposed to work.</quote> Because Americans don't want to pay those costs to strangers especially with how big we are. In America, you only owe yourself to your family and your friends and strangers can get the finger, is it really any surprise Americans recoil in disgust when this keeps coming up? Especially successful americans who have alot of money or barely any money as it is?</quote> We pay for other people's social security...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Butterfiles 05/04/17 10:38:14 AM #29:	RedZaraki posted... We all pay for roads. tbf, look at the state of American roads/infrastructure in general --- http://www.last.fm/user/PigBun 56k warning <cite>Butterfiles posted [p:878454772] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>RedZaraki posted...</cite> <quote>We all pay for roads.</quote> tbf, look at the state of American roads/infrastructure in general</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 05/04/17 10:38:31 AM #30:	Questionmarktarius posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Where do you live where tax dollars haven't paid for water infrastructure? And much like roads, there's no more "right" to free water than there is a right to a free car. You have the right to access to affordable, clean, drinking water. The amount of tap water that you actually drink, is literally a few cents a month. The industry is heavily regulated to guarantee this. Don't be a fool. Drinking water is all but literally free. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:878454780] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Where do you live where tax dollars haven't paid for water infrastructure?</quote> And much like roads, there's no more "right" to free water than there is a right to a free car.</quote> You have the right to access to affordable, clean, drinking water. The amount of tap water that you actually drink, is literally a few cents a month. The industry is heavily regulated to guarantee this. Don't be a fool. Drinking water is all but literally free.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 05/04/17 10:41:07 AM #31:	l Dudeboy l posted... Americans are more than happy paying for people to be to be killed overseas, but hate the idea of looking after their own countrymen. Incorrect. --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:878454904] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>l Dudeboy l posted...</cite> <quote>Americans are more than happy paying for people to be to be killed overseas, but hate the idea of looking after their own countrymen.</quote> Incorrect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 05/04/17 10:42:29 AM #32:	how stingy can you be to bitch about free water --- http://i.imgtc.com/qieELu9.jpg <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:878454974] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>how stingy can you be to bitch about free water</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 05/04/17 10:45:12 AM #33:	KingCrabCake posted... l Dudeboy l posted... Americans are more than happy paying for people to be to be killed overseas, but hate the idea of looking after their own countrymen. Incorrect. Dude, what the fuck. You made this topic and you're giving one word answers. You wanted a debate so debate. don't just post, no you're wrong. That's what trolls do. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:878455105] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>l Dudeboy l posted...</cite> <quote>Americans are more than happy paying for people to be to be killed overseas, but hate the idea of looking after their own countrymen.</quote> Incorrect.</quote> Dude, what the fuck. You made this topic and you're giving one word answers. You wanted a debate so debate. don't just post, no you're wrong. That's what trolls do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
krazychao5 05/04/17 10:47:04 AM #34:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Where do you live where tax dollars haven't paid for water infrastructure? And much like roads, there's no more "right" to free water than there is a right to a free car. You have the right to access to affordable, clean, drinking water. The amount of tap water that you actually drink, is literally a few cents a month. The industry is heavily regulated to guarantee this. Don't be a fool. Drinking water is all but literally free. A lot of places cannot drink the water straight from the tap. --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/bigllama?type=posted <cite>krazychao5 posted [p:878455188] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Where do you live where tax dollars haven't paid for water infrastructure?</quote> And much like roads, there's no more "right" to free water than there is a right to a free car.</quote> You have the right to access to affordable, clean, drinking water. The amount of tap water that you actually drink, is literally a few cents a month. The industry is heavily regulated to guarantee this. Don't be a fool. Drinking water is all but literally free.</quote> A lot of places cannot drink the water straight from the tap.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 05/04/17 10:48:08 AM #35:	krazychao5 posted... A lot of places cannot drink the water straight from the tap. Because the local government there sucks/ under-funded. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:878455236] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>krazychao5 posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of places cannot drink the water straight from the tap.</quote> Because the local government there sucks/ under-funded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 05/04/17 10:49:43 AM #37:	I dont get it... Why accept that you cant afford healthcare if anything would happen, and you are forced to pay insurance companies so they might help you if you get sick... ...and be so against paying less in tax so everybody can afford to visit the hospital if anything happen? Is it the anti-communism ghost that scares people? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:878455312] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>I dont get it... Why accept that you cant afford healthcare if anything would happen, and you are forced to pay insurance companies so they might help you if you get sick... ...and be so against paying less in tax so everybody can afford to visit the hospital if anything happen? Is it the anti-communism ghost that scares people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/04/17 10:49:46 AM #38:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... krazychao5 posted... A lot of places cannot drink the water straight from the tap. Because the local government there sucks/ under-funded. Flint was because of a deadbeat/price-increase death spiral. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:878455316] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>krazychao5 posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of places cannot drink the water straight from the tap.</quote> Because the local government there sucks/ under-funded.</quote> Flint was because of a deadbeat/price-increase death spiral.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
krazychao5 05/04/17 10:49:53 AM #39:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... krazychao5 posted... A lot of places cannot drink the water straight from the tap. Because the local government there sucks/ under-funded. So if government cannot provide quality roads, water is undrinkable in certain areas, why give them the responsibility for everyone's health care? Won't they just fuck it up too? --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/bigllama?type=posted <cite>krazychao5 posted [p:878455321] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>krazychao5 posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of places cannot drink the water straight from the tap.</quote> Because the local government there sucks/ under-funded.</quote> So if government cannot provide quality roads, water is undrinkable in certain areas, why give them the responsibility for everyone's health care? Won't they just fuck it up too?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bluster 05/04/17 10:50:01 AM #40:	krazychao5 posted... A lot of places cannot drink the water straight from the tap. I feel like that's pretty much the line in the sand between "first" and "third world". --- The artist formerly known as Luster_Sly http://i.imgur.com/svnvY.jpg <cite>Bluster posted [p:878455328] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>krazychao5 posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of places cannot drink the water straight from the tap.</quote> I feel like that's pretty much the line in the sand between "first" and "third world".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/04/17 10:50:40 AM #41:	krazychao5 posted... So if government cannot provide quality roads, water is undrinkable in certain areas, why give them the responsibility for everyone's health care? Won't they just fuck it up too? oooooooooo, burn! <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:878455363] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>krazychao5 posted...</cite> <quote>So if government cannot provide quality roads, water is undrinkable in certain areas, why give them the responsibility for everyone's health care? Won't they just fuck it up too?</quote> oooooooooo, burn!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 05/04/17 10:51:06 AM #42:	We have the ER for our right to healthcare. We shouldnt be forced to buy into health insurance though. --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:878455390] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>We have the ER for our right to healthcare. We shouldnt be forced to buy into health insurance though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
krazychao5 05/04/17 10:52:57 AM #43:	Bluster posted... krazychao5 posted... A lot of places cannot drink the water straight from the tap. I feel like that's pretty much the line in the sand between "first" and "third world". I should clarify -- a lot of those places are in America. Luckily I am on the Detroit water system, some of the best in the country. But go up north 70 miles and you have the shitty Flint water crisis. Also people up there need to use water softener in their whatever (not a plumber) to make it usable. --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/bigllama?type=posted <cite>krazychao5 posted [p:878455492] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bluster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>krazychao5 posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of places cannot drink the water straight from the tap.</quote> I feel like that's pretty much the line in the sand between "first" and "third world".</quote> I should clarify -- a lot of those places are in America. Luckily I am on the Detroit water system, some of the best in the country. But go up north 70 miles and you have the shitty Flint water crisis. Also people up there need to use water softener in their whatever (not a plumber) to make it usable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/04/17 10:54:13 AM #44:	"Forced" is such a dumb word If you want to live in a civilized country with amazing infastructure, roads, schools, police, airports, railways etc. You have to pay tax to help contribute your part to be a member of the society. And yes Healthcare should be part of that. I support taxes. Taxes are a good idea. And if you oppose taxes you're welcome to leave the society and go full rapture Randian libertarian and see how far you get. No one is stopping you but 2 days without the internet you'd be crawling back. But this "You're going to FORCE me to pay for SOMEONE ELSE'S lung transplant!" is a dumb statement to me. It's just being intellectually dishonest. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878455547] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>"Forced" is such a dumb word If you want to live in a civilized country with amazing infastructure, roads, schools, police, airports, railways etc. You have to pay tax to help contribute your part to be a member of the society. And yes Healthcare should be part of that. I support taxes. Taxes are a good idea. And if you oppose taxes you're welcome to leave the society and go full rapture Randian libertarian and see how far you get. No one is stopping you but 2 days without the internet you'd be crawling back. But this "You're going to FORCE me to pay for SOMEONE ELSE'S lung transplant!" is a dumb statement to me. It's just being intellectually dishonest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apocalyptic_4 05/04/17 10:55:20 AM #45:	I understand why it's impractical in America not to have universal healthcare but lol at the responses ITT about it. A luxury to have healthcare? You guys rather be in Dept and bankruptcy than have a increase in taxes and not have to worry about healthcare bills? LOL --- PSN: Adrian396 XBL: Prime Legacy Nintendo ID: Apocalypse <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted [p:878455613] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote>I understand why it's impractical in America not to have universal healthcare but lol at the responses ITT about it. A luxury to have healthcare? You guys rather be in Dept and bankruptcy than have a increase in taxes and not have to worry about healthcare bills? LOL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l Dudeboy l 05/04/17 10:56:25 AM #46:	KingCrabCake posted... l Dudeboy l posted... Americans are more than happy paying for people to be to be killed overseas, but hate the idea of looking after their own countrymen. Incorrect. You? Yes, you are. --- You are now breathing manually. Lets put a little lead in the air, and see what falls over. <cite>l Dudeboy l posted [p:878455676] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>l Dudeboy l posted...</cite> <quote>Americans are more than happy paying for people to be to be killed overseas, but hate the idea of looking after their own countrymen.</quote> Incorrect.</quote> You? Yes, you are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 05/04/17 10:56:36 AM #47:	MangaFan462 posted... We have the ER for our right to healthcare. Which is crippling our healthcare system. Using the ER as the go-to triage center is what makes our system inefficient and more costly than every other First World nation. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:878455687] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>MangaFan462 posted...</cite> <quote>We have the ER for our right to healthcare.</quote> Which is crippling our healthcare system. Using the ER as the go-to triage center is what makes our system inefficient and more costly than every other First World nation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 05/04/17 10:57:04 AM #48:	RedZaraki posted... We all pay for roads. We all pay for the military. We all pay for water. I don't think this is that different, honestly. Roads are used by everyone, the military protects everyone, which is why those are paid for with taxes. Water doesn't come out of taxes, you pay for that separate. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 3 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:878455711] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>RedZaraki posted...</cite> <quote>We all pay for roads. We all pay for the military. We all pay for water. I don't think this is that different, honestly.</quote> Roads are used by everyone, the military protects everyone, which is why those are paid for with taxes. Water doesn't come out of taxes, you pay for that separate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bluster 05/04/17 10:57:20 AM #49:	krazychao5 posted... I should clarify -- a lot of those places are in America. I know what you were talking about. The fact that potable water isn't readily available in every house, in every city in the US is fucking shameful. --- The artist formerly known as Luster_Sly http://i.imgur.com/svnvY.jpg <cite>Bluster posted [p:878455724] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>krazychao5 posted...</cite> <quote> I should clarify -- a lot of those places are in America. </quote> I know what you were talking about. The fact that potable water isn't readily available in every house, in every city in the US is fucking shameful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/04/17 10:59:06 AM #50:	voldothegr8 posted... Roads are used by everyone, the military protects everyone And everyome gets healthcare. You don't use most of the roads you pay for. The military throws money down the toilet. You're paying for society. The US right now is paying more per head than any other first world natiion for healthcare and yet the standard on average is poorer. It's insane --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878455790] in Is Healthc... [t:75310439]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote> Roads are used by everyone, the military protects everyone</quote> And everyome gets healthcare. You don't use most of the roads you pay for. The military throws money down the toilet. You're paying for society. The US right now is paying more per head than any other first world natiion for healthcare and yet the standard on average is poorer. It's insane</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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