Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Vergil/Kirby/The Lich King vs. The Boss/Wrex/Archer/ Ridley/Nephalem

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Vergil, Kirby and The Lich King have challenged The Boss, Wrex, Archer, Ridley and the Nephalem to a fight! Location of the fight: Phendrana - The snowy drifts of northern Tallon IV. Only the exterior is accessible, with the Space Pirate research facility out of bounds. No enemies are present. Attackers will start at the Chapel of the Elders, with defenders starting by the Ruined Courtyard. Which side will win?


Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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-Bold your votes (using bold HTML tags).
-You do not need to require justification for your vote, though the admins reserve the right to disqualify votes in the advent of obvious alt voting and other similar scenarios.
-Leaders cannot vote for their own teams (and players from the same pool may not vote as well), but they are free to argue their case.
-If you want to switch your votes simply bold the change; there's no need to delete your post, though you may if you wish.
-This match will end in 24 hours.
-The following conventions are in use for match topics: www.gamefaqs.com/boards/570224-mercs/75290480/878106427


Kirby is as seen in the Kirby Super Star and Smash series. He has full use of his Smash Brothers Moveset along with the moves from his Ice, Fire and Ninja forms. (He has also inhaled Archer and Fox McCloud's Arwing, gaining a set of moves fitting each). He cannot inhale enemy fighters nor create helpers from his abilities during the match, but can inhale anything else and will not lose access to his forms due to taking damage. He is piloting the fully upgraded Arwing in all-range mode as seen in Star Fox 64 in from the nearest convenient location to his team. He has no bombs. He may leave the cockpit at any time.

Vergil is as he appears in Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition, with all of his weaponry, skills and techniques from his boss battles in DMC3 and playable form in DMC3 and 4, though he does not have his canon regen. He may access Devil Trigger for up to 15 seconds every 5 minutes.

The Lich King is as seen in World of Warcraft (minus boss mechanics like threat and enrage) and Heroes of the Storm (as Arthas). He does not have access to his Harvest Soul, Fury of Frostmourne, or Raise Dead abilities. He has experienced the full consequences of the many-worlds theory of quantum mechanics: he possesses pre-battle knowledge of the current battle, as if he has already participated in the fight many times in the past.
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Archer is as seen in Fate/Stay Night's Unlimited Blade Works route. He may project Kanshou and Bakuya, Caladbolg, and his bow, as well as any other weapon seen in this fight, but may not project anything else. He may not use his Reality Marble, nor turn incorporeal and may be affected by conventional weapons despite his status as a servant.

Urdnot Wrex is as he appears in the Mass Effect series, with all of his available talents from Mass Effect 1 at maximum level. He comes to battle equipped with the M-300 Claymore Shotgun (with Shredder Mod V), the Graal Spike Thrower Shotgun (with Omni Blade V), and the Striker Assault Rifle (with Magazine Upgrade V), all as they appear in Mass Effect 3.

The Boss is as seen in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater. She is armed with her Patriot machine gun with infinite ammo.

Ridley is as he appears in Metroid Prime i.e. Meta Ridley, although he's merely resistant to conventional forms of damage rather than impervious.

The Demon Hunter is as she appears in Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls, wielding dual Helltrapper crossbows. She has the passives Steady Aim, Perfectionist, and Single Out, and the skills Entangling Shot, Impale, Smokescreen, Vault, Vengeance and Multishot.

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The winter is cruel...and the battle amidst Phendrana's icy drift will be crueler still. FIGHT!
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@redrocket_pub
@Johnbobb

The floor is yours now.
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i sure wish MY high tier was this stacked..........heh the boss heh
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You know what... I kinda buy the Nephalem being able to slowly take down the Lich King....its kinda what he do.

Archer/Vergil is a compelling matchup too

Wrex and Ridley vs the Kirbwing is interesting too

The Boss sure does have a machine gun tho
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I was all set to vote against the Lich King and then

"He has experienced the full consequences of the many-worlds theory of quantum mechanics: he possesses pre-battle knowledge of the current battle, as if he has already participated in the fight many times in the past.
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Lich King
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Can Wrex even do anything against the Kirbwing? It can't really fly too low here, and Wrex's biotics and shotguns don't have that much range. He could take potshots at it with the assault rifle, but that's not really going to help.
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Basically I think the Neph is a hard counter to the Lich King normally, but if Lich King knows her every move... that's not good for a dodge type.

That and Kirby in the Arwing is going to rule the skies, honestly.
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Yes, the Lich King has seen his death many times, no doubt.
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Ridley is a great counter to the Arwing actually. He can do something an enemy fighter could never do: grapple it. Once Ridley has a hold of it, all its weaponry is useless.
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I'm going to be honest I will need some speed comparisons because from my recollection the Arwing is a hell of a lot faster than Ridley.
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How fast can Ridley fly? Can he even catch an Arwing?
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I might be misremembering wrex's talents set and confusing it with Ashley's - I do that. let me look it up.

Yup thinking of ashley with the disruptive ammo on a sniper rifle
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Is it true, did Lichking learn about the worldlines from Houioun "Waifu Lord" "Killer in the streets, Kongroo in the sheets" Kyoma
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With Ridley keeping the Kjrbwing in check, Wrex, Archer, and the Nephalem have more than enough firepower to lay waste to the other two. The sheer firepower those three put out is almost indescribable, almost like a....Death Blossom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlAsSyDAWR8
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I'm not really sure about Arwings air speed? Regardless, Ridley doesn't have to be faster. All he has to do is wait and jump it when Kjrby comes in for an attack run.
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So some bad news is the Lich King really likes to monologue and order people around so since he's seen this battle a shit ton he can pretty easily give instructions.

Not joking, the Lich King is totally going to see these two as his minions. Vergil will probably brush him off until he remembers the Lich King has been here before but Kirby's a team player. He ain't fallin' for no Ridley ambushes.
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And @KanzarisKelshen, does The Boss start the fight laughing or not? That ability phase was a bit chaotic...
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This is actually true the limiting factor with the kirbwing has always been that its piloted by kirby

He might go for strategies that are less than optimal
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Actually not quite, Kirby has been said in canon to enhance the abilities of the people he sucks up. Dude's a true little genius. I think sometimes physically he is more limited but from a skill stand point the dude's a pro.

Lopen has made me seen the light.
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Vergil will not just fall in line like a "minion" under any circumstances. I mean, ideal teammates clause and all but if you think Vergil is going jump at the Lich King's orders like he's his drill seargent or something you are crazy.
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How will Kirby hear the Lichman while flying high in the air real fast?
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well basically the way Isee it is either "kirby isnt a factor" or "kirby at some point gets bushwhacked by Ridley.

If nothing else Ridley is ridiculously durable - he may serve as a sheild.

The trick is this - whatever is done here has to work 100% of the time.

So that means Archer has to deal with kirby and that means Wrex has to deal with Vergil which actually his biotic power profile doesnt suck for I suppose.
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GANON1025 posted...

How will Kirby hear the Lichman while flying high in the air real fast?

Didn't think about that. Maybe he won't.

Either way though I am pretty confident that Ridley never catches the Arwing. That shit is really fast.

Also it has sensors, doesn't it?
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Actually not quite, Kirby has been said in canon to enhance the abilities of the people he sucks up. Dude's a true little genius. I think sometimes physically he is more limited but from a skill stand point the dude's a pro.

Lopen has made me seen the light.

oh sure he uses the powers well, just his brain for strategems will probably involve getting closer than he probably should.

That said you raise a good point about Lich King as a potentially pretty competent strategist
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redrocket_pub posted...

And @KanzarisKelshen, does The Boss start the fight laughing or not? That ability phase was a bit chaotic...

Akuma isn't rostered, so no.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Actually not quite, Kirby has been said in canon to enhance the abilities of the people he sucks up. Dude's a true little genius. I think sometimes physically he is more limited but from a skill stand point the dude's a pro.

Lopen has made me seen the light.

The physical limitation clause is quite the catch. Is he actually fully as durable as a real Arwing anyway?
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Well no he IS an Arwing INSIDE an Arwing.

Yes this is silly but we like it
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He is in fact inside of the arwing, the actual one.

Mercs, man.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

GANON1025 posted...

How will Kirby hear the Lichman while flying high in the air real fast?

Didn't think about that. Maybe he won't.

Either way though I am pretty confident that Ridley never catches the Arwing. That shit is really fast.

Also it has sensors, doesn't it?

How fast can he be going and still target human size targets? Ridley isn't that slow!
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The physical limitation clause is quite the catch. Is he actually fully as durable as a real Arwing anyway?

He's piloting a real arwing so I mean
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Eddv posted...

Well no he IS an Arwing INSIDE an Arwing.

Yes this is silly but we like it

I thought that was only the week he first sucks up the Arwing?

On subsequent weeks he just physically morphs into one.

Or I could be wrong.
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I uh... I don't think so.

I am certainly willing to entertain it though.

Kanz?
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The write up specifies that he is piloting the arwing.
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Well if he is an Arwing inside of an Arwing then he's probably breaking the Arwing
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He has inhaled fox's arwing so he could become one inside of it...I guess.
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Yeah he gets the Arwing passive (the real Arwing) and is in Arwing form inside it.
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Or more likely the Arwing breaks him. If we have an identically sized Kirwing inside of an Arwing, he's probably telefragged by the Arwing's superior structure
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well inside the arwing he is probably his normal self and is just able to turn into another smaller pink flesh arwing after it breaks.

Unless thats off base
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no the Arwing inside is like a cute kirbified (and Kirby-sized) Arwing

imo
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Arwing is Mach 4 bee tee dubs
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And the way it works is that regular kirby gets a full sized Arwing.

And on top of that one of the forms he can shift into is also an Arwing, presumably one more kirby sized.

Because Mercs.
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So in theory Kirby could do something like Mach 4 the actual Arwing into Ridley, pop out and Arwing form towards someone and then shift into Archer Kirby and light them up that way.

Whether he would though, probably not with that kind of efficiency.
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I really doubt Kirby would survive a Mach 4 crash into anything anyway.
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I like that as a tagline for this kirby "a super inefficient death machine"
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Eddv posted...

"a super inefficient death machine"

This is probably the best descriptor of Kirby ever.


And he totally could survive that via ejecting or going rock form before impact tbqh. But like I said, I doubt he's that efficient anyway.
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Yeah, it is 100% a real Arwing.

Kirby can be whatever form he wants inside it because he copied Fox's passive.

And if he leaves the Arwing, he can also choose to be a Kirby-Arwing.

So imagine an Arwing that, if it goes down, can deploy it's pilot into a smaller personal Arwing

FFDragon posted...

Because Mercs.

And yeah, while I respect Neph a lot, living through the match infinite times and knowing every one of her moves is what gives the match to Lich.

The Arwing outspeeds and outpowers Ridley, and once that's done, everyone on the ground has an Arwing to deal with.

Vergil can close the gap between Archer ridiculously fast, and then those two people a fair 1v1 from that point (which Vergil ultimately takes without Archer being able to get any distance away from him).

Lich initially has to hold off Neph and Wrex, but Lich is by far the tankiest person here, and he knows everything they can possibly attempt.
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Archer is also capable of taking out the Arwing when it gets close. His battle precognition allows him to accurately hit even high speed objects up to 4 km away.

And Vergil closing with him is no problem. The guy likes melee combat just as much as ranged. He killed Berserker in melee combat, multiple times.
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Lich King is hella tanky, but tankier than both Diablo, the Prime Evil, and Maltheas, the fallen angel who became the Angel of Death? She's quite the match for the Lich King, and Wrex as backup just makes it unfair.
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redrocket_pub posted...

Archer is also capable of taking out the Arwing when it gets close. His battle precognition allows him to accurately hit even high speed objects up to 4 km away.

And Vergil closing with him is no problem. The guy likes melee combat just as much as ranged. He killed Berserker in melee combat, multiple times.

That's the thing though. I think Archer could potentially hurt the Arwing... but that's not happening with Vergil here. Vergil closes gaps instantly, and isn't going to let Archer just sit there and shoot good 'ol Kirb from a distance. If Archer wants to fight, it's going to have to be up close, meaning only Ridley is ultimately left against the Arwing.
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