Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Diablo and Vanille vs. Dark Samus

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MenuWars
06/09/17 3:43:26 PM
#201:


I mean I am considering this but you guys seem to be vastly under selling the power of a L'Cie. That's why I'm trying to reconcile the disconnect between the universes.
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MenuWars
06/09/17 3:55:21 PM
#202:


Actually let's try this another way, who does Damus lose to in a 1 v 1 in your opinions? Excluding Hyper Samus.
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FFDragon
06/09/17 3:57:13 PM
#203:


In general, or on this terrain specifically?

Regardless, I for one do not believe she can bake a delicious cake.
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Gatarix
06/09/17 3:58:20 PM
#204:


MenuWars posted...
I mean Phazon seems to have fairly magical properties, what's to say it isn't? You get scientific analysis of magical stuff in games all the times, ribbon protects against poison and confusion and stuff, why wouldn't it protect against Phazon?

Phazon is more science-y than magical imo. Admittedly it's weird science and not really clear-cut so if you do see it as supernatural, I can't really fault you for it.

As for a ribbon, I think it definitely protects against mental degradation, but not damage.
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MenuWars
06/09/17 3:58:43 PM
#205:


FFDragon posted...
In general, or on this terrain specifically?

Regardless, I for one do not believe she can bake a delicious cake.


This terrain no point over complicating matters.

Cake reference<-----

My head.
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Lopen
06/09/17 3:59:32 PM
#206:


Radiation seems pretty similar to Sap imo. Ribbon should work.
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MenuWars
06/09/17 4:01:05 PM
#207:


I mean if it splits a planet into two dimensions, and possesses and corrupts people, it's hard for me to say it's not verging on the magical side of things so glad we can compromise there.

As for the Ribbon I'm not saying it protects her from Damus attacks, but it should protect her from the after effects and exposure stuff. So she just needs to avoid walking in it.
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KanzarisKelshen
06/09/17 4:01:54 PM
#208:


MenuWars posted...
Actually let's try this another way, who does Damus lose to in a 1 v 1 in your opinions? Excluding Hyper Samus.


People with unorthodox offenses or absolutely massive firepower, who can either dodge much, much better than Samus or outrange Damus and stay away from her tremendously corrosive Phazon. Damus vs Raziel is interesting, as Raziel's Soul Reaver will hit her where her enormous physical defense hype won't matter. Damus vs Kuja is also good because Kuja's main spell does percentile damage unaffected by MDEF, so it's basically a damage race - if he can escape her long enough to get off three or four Flarestars he wins, as he does vs most people, but if not he folds hard. Most 7/weeks (Archer, Vergil, Bayonetta, probably not Dante because his 'thing' isn't having absolutely overwhelming firepower) will kill her because they can dodge well enough to dunk Damus and their attacks do things like cut space or warp it, or inflict colossal damage. I could make a full list of dudes who I think beat her, but I feel like this illustrates the point well enough.
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Alany
06/09/17 4:02:43 PM
#209:


MenuWars posted...
I mean I am considering this but you guys seem to be vastly under selling the power of a L'Cie. That's why I'm trying to reconcile the disconnect between the universes.

Okay, look.

Imagine for a moment you are in a broken down nuclear reactor, like Fukushima and you are currently experiencing radiation poisoning.

You gain about 1,000 mSv an hour. At 3 hours the person will die if untreated. At 10 hours+ this means you are
dead and there's nothing you can do about it.

On an alert scale of 1-7, this is a 5. Chernobyl is a 7.

So I ask you, is Phazon, a super radiation space magic poison more lethal per hour than Chernobyl? By any lore recollection it seems to put someone at 10k mSv just by getting close.

How does a L'Cie deal with this sort of potency? How does their resistance work against this?
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Gatarix
06/09/17 4:05:36 PM
#210:


btw root double is in the latest humble bundle and it's p good
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MenuWars
06/09/17 4:06:26 PM
#211:


I mean personally I'd take Diablo over Raziel any day of the week. So that's quite interesting. I'd probably give the Kuja fight to Damus though because with her clones and speed she could overwhelm him whilst he tries to cast.

Not sure who I'd take over Diablo v Kuja... Probably Diablo that teleport and his absurd physical strength and resistances give him the edge.

Dante v Damus would be pretty close though. Hmmmm.
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KanzarisKelshen
06/09/17 4:08:17 PM
#212:


Well, to me Diablo vs Raziel is like the ultimate 'counter matchup' because Raziel's health is directly tied to his absorption of souls. Diablo carries the souls of all hell within him...which means that he's a heal piñata to Raziel. If you don't agree with that interp though then yeah, that match is pretty interesting because Raziel really needs to hit and run Diablo.
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FFDragon
06/09/17 4:10:01 PM
#213:


one of the possible match types in this literally involves one character making another bake a delicious cake

not just a functional looking cake, but a delicious one, in a kitchen that has all the available supplies but no recipe

which I do not believe Damus could pull off
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KanzarisKelshen
06/09/17 4:11:18 PM
#214:


Cake would SOLO Damus tbqh
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FFDragon
06/09/17 4:13:26 PM
#215:


has she ever even SEEN a cake?

I don't think so.
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MenuWars
06/09/17 4:13:30 PM
#216:


Yeah Raziel would get some healing from Diablo I agree. But I just think Diable straight up tears him limb from the second he gets caught and I don't see Raziel being able to dodge everything that's thrown at him long enough to kill off Diablo.
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JeffreyRaze
06/09/17 4:13:55 PM
#217:


If you're in the same room as a cake baked by Damus, you have my sympathy; you're probably going to die from the radiation.
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Alany
06/09/17 4:23:06 PM
#218:


MenuWars posted...
Yeah Raziel would get some healing from Diablo I agree. But I just think Diable straight up tears him limb from the second he gets caught and I don't see Raziel being able to dodge everything that's thrown at him long enough to kill off Diablo.

Raziel VS Diablo is an interesting thread in my head, mostly due to plot reasons as D3 Diablo is an amalgamation of souls, after all.

So while Raziel holds within his hand the Wraith Blade should he not be able to cut from his body the six other evils which make up The Prime Evil?
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MenuWars
06/09/17 4:52:54 PM
#219:


Definitely possible, hypothetically at least. But I don't think it'd be as easy just hitting him with it, it'd have to be surgical strikes and I don't see him getting that kind of attack whilst dealing with all the shit Diablo can throw at him.
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DeathChicken
06/09/17 5:48:16 PM
#220:


I would think poking Diablo with the Reaver would cause all manner of havoc in and of itself. But I also find Raziel's durability really suspect so I doubt it gets that far
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MajinZidane
06/09/17 11:41:04 PM
#221:


does anybody take Damus over Diablo and Vanille in another terrain?
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Kamekguy
06/10/17 12:11:05 AM
#222:


I take Damus in a large terrain with multiple elevation levels where she can constantly get out of Diablo's range and clonespam/cloneheal.

In mid or close range Diablo absolutely routs. So "this terrain but with no phazon".
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ScareChan
06/10/17 12:13:12 AM
#223:


imagine Chrom and Diablo in Arena Ferox with 150% Diablo
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Eddv
06/10/17 12:14:53 AM
#224:


I think you probably win this Oerba too...maybe. Im not sure about that actually but thats what my gut says.
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ScareChan
06/10/17 12:18:52 AM
#225:


The bonus to vanille terrain is there is someone there that would give info on Damus as per the terrain write up, so I feel that helps a lot
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Eddv
06/10/17 12:25:23 AM
#226:


Yeah thats why i hesitated.
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