Poll of the Day > The most messed up part about the trans military ban...

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CountessRolab 07/27/17 12:55:02 AM #1:	...is that there were a lot of closeted trans people in the military who came out after the ban was lifted, and now they are going to lose their careers --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:883673745] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>...is that there were a lot of closeted trans people in the military who came out after the ban was lifted, and now they are going to lose their careers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PK_Spam 07/27/17 12:56:42 AM #2:	It's almost like Trump is overall just a bad man who embodies all of the worst traits of American society --- https://i.imgur.com/hCHZS1f.gif <cite>PK_Spam posted [p:883673813] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>It's almost like Trump is overall just a bad man who embodies all of the worst traits of American society</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dreaming_King 07/27/17 12:57:44 AM #3:	Some people would consider that a great thing. --- Nil- <cite>Dreaming_King posted [p:883673857] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>Some people would consider that a great thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 07/27/17 12:58:33 AM #4:	Yeah, that's pretty shitty. Almost as shitty as a two-party system with an electoral college. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:883673903] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that's pretty shitty. Almost as shitty as a two-party system with an electoral college.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Conner4REAL 07/27/17 1:10:29 AM #5:	TheCyborgNinja posted... Yeah, that's pretty shitty. Almost as shitty as a two-party system with an electoral college. The only way the electoral college makes sense is is New York City (city not state) counts for 1000 electoral votes. --- "there is a real human centipede situation happening in the men's room" - Hon Ruth bader Ginsberg. <cite>Conner4REAL posted [p:883674392] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheCyborgNinja posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that's pretty shitty. Almost as shitty as a two-party system with an electoral college.</quote> The only way the electoral college makes sense is is New York City (city not state) counts for 1000 electoral votes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountessRolab 07/27/17 1:29:46 AM #6:	Dreaming_King posted... Some people would consider that a great thing. --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:883675153] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dreaming_King posted...</cite> <quote>Some people would consider that a great thing.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/27/17 1:44:28 AM #7:	The most messed up part is that it goes against FtM when FtM is strictly an improvement. It makes perfect sense to ban MtF since MtF decreases muscle mass through blocking testosterone, but you want stronger, faster soldiers so giving testosterone to women transitioning to men makes sense. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:883675680] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>The most messed up part is that it goes against FtM when FtM is strictly an improvement. It makes perfect sense to ban MtF since MtF decreases muscle mass through blocking testosterone, but you want stronger, faster soldiers so giving testosterone to women transitioning to men makes sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 07/27/17 1:57:43 AM #8:	uhh <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:883676093] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>uhh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 07/27/17 1:59:30 AM #9:	Zeus posted... The most messed up part is that it goes against FtM when FtM is strictly an improvement. It makes perfect sense to ban MtF since MtF decreases muscle mass through blocking testosterone, but you want stronger, faster soldiers so giving testosterone to women transitioning to men makes sense. i just want to quote this absurdity because wooooooooooooow It also seems you don't realize that not all military careers are front line or combat. Many will never see combat --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:883676160] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>The most messed up part is that it goes against FtM when FtM is strictly an improvement. It makes perfect sense to ban MtF since MtF decreases muscle mass through blocking testosterone, but you want stronger, faster soldiers so giving testosterone to women transitioning to men makes sense.</quote> i just want to quote this absurdity because wooooooooooooow It also seems you don't realize that not all military careers are front line or combat. Many will never see combat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/27/17 2:08:12 AM #10:	Doctor Foxx posted... Zeus posted... The most messed up part is that it goes against FtM when FtM is strictly an improvement. It makes perfect sense to ban MtF since MtF decreases muscle mass through blocking testosterone, but you want stronger, faster soldiers so giving testosterone to women transitioning to men makes sense. i just want to quote this absurdity because wooooooooooooow It also seems you don't realize that not all military careers are front line or combat. Many will never see combat Doesn't really matter, does it? Even if you're working on a coast guard ship, having greater muscle mass makes you more physically able to do tasks. Improved muscle mass is pretty much always a benefit. And, while not all military roles see active combat, having more muscular guards and reserves is a net benefit. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:883676421] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>The most messed up part is that it goes against FtM when FtM is strictly an improvement. It makes perfect sense to ban MtF since MtF decreases muscle mass through blocking testosterone, but you want stronger, faster soldiers so giving testosterone to women transitioning to men makes sense.</quote> i just want to quote this absurdity because wooooooooooooow It also seems you don't realize that not all military careers are front line or combat. Many will never see combat</quote> Doesn't really matter, does it? Even if you're working on a coast guard ship, having greater muscle mass makes you more physically able to do tasks. Improved muscle mass is pretty much always a benefit. And, while not all military roles see active combat, having more muscular guards and reserves is a net benefit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
madadude 07/27/17 2:12:54 AM #11:	There are a lot of military jobs that are just sitting behind desks though... --- http://www.last.fm/user/madadude17 <cite>madadude posted [p:883676560] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>There are a lot of military jobs that are just sitting behind desks though...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 07/27/17 2:15:05 AM #12:	Zeus posted... Doctor Foxx posted... Zeus posted... The most messed up part is that it goes against FtM when FtM is strictly an improvement. It makes perfect sense to ban MtF since MtF decreases muscle mass through blocking testosterone, but you want stronger, faster soldiers so giving testosterone to women transitioning to men makes sense. i just want to quote this absurdity because wooooooooooooow It also seems you don't realize that not all military careers are front line or combat. Many will never see combat Doesn't really matter, does it? Even if you're working on a coast guard ship, having greater muscle mass makes you more physically able to do tasks. Improved muscle mass is pretty much always a benefit. And, while not all military roles see active combat, having more muscular guards and reserves is a net benefit. Most jobs in the military really have nothing to do with muscle mass. Or brain cells. Or really anything that many regular jobs don't require <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:883676629] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>The most messed up part is that it goes against FtM when FtM is strictly an improvement. It makes perfect sense to ban MtF since MtF decreases muscle mass through blocking testosterone, but you want stronger, faster soldiers so giving testosterone to women transitioning to men makes sense.</quote> i just want to quote this absurdity because wooooooooooooow It also seems you don't realize that not all military careers are front line or combat. Many will never see combat</quote> Doesn't really matter, does it? Even if you're working on a coast guard ship, having greater muscle mass makes you more physically able to do tasks. Improved muscle mass is pretty much always a benefit. And, while not all military roles see active combat, having more muscular guards and reserves is a net benefit.</quote> Most jobs in the military really have nothing to do with muscle mass. Or brain cells. Or really anything that many regular jobs don't require</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 07/27/17 2:15:51 AM #13:	madadude posted... There are a lot of military jobs that are just sitting behind desks though... or other support of all kinds (drivers, cooks, medics, pilots, personnel, etc.) Sounds like Zeus just wants women out of the military. Inferior muscles and all that --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:883676648] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>madadude posted...</cite> <quote>There are a lot of military jobs that are just sitting behind desks though...</quote> or other support of all kinds (drivers, cooks, medics, pilots, personnel, etc.) Sounds like Zeus just wants women out of the military. Inferior muscles and all that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 07/27/17 2:38:51 AM #14:	Doctor Foxx posted... madadude posted... There are a lot of military jobs that are just sitting behind desks though... or other support of all kinds (drivers, cooks, medics, pilots, personnel, etc.) And the military requires them all to be in shape. Doctor Foxx posted... Sounds like Zeus just wants women out of the military. Inferior muscles and all that Your vendetta is showing because nowhere did he say or imply that. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:883677344] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>madadude posted...</cite> <quote>There are a lot of military jobs that are just sitting behind desks though...</quote> or other support of all kinds (drivers, cooks, medics, pilots, personnel, etc.)</quote> And the military requires them all to be in shape. <cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds like Zeus just wants women out of the military. Inferior muscles and all that</quote> Your vendetta is showing because nowhere did he say or imply that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 07/27/17 2:49:58 AM #15:	Veedrock- posted... And the military requires them all to be in shape. And the cool thing is you can be in shape without having as much muscle mass. Veedrock- posted... Your vendetta is showing because nowhere did he say or imply that. I'm following his logic. If he feels the military is worse off with MtF because of loss of muscles, and gains from FtM because of increased muscle mass, it stands to reason from that perspective biological females from birth would be the worst option. Again, his reasoning is absurd. --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:883677649] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>And the military requires them all to be in shape.</quote> And the cool thing is you can be in shape without having as much muscle mass. <cite>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>Your vendetta is showing because nowhere did he say or imply that.</quote> I'm following his logic. If he feels the military is worse off with MtF because of loss of muscles, and gains from FtM because of increased muscle mass, it stands to reason from that perspective biological females from birth would be the worst option. Again, his reasoning is absurd.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 07/27/17 5:14:20 AM #16:	Dreaming_King posted... Some people would consider that a great thing. Yes, assholes are certainly "some people". --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:883680714] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dreaming_King posted...</cite> <quote>Some people would consider that a great thing.</quote> Yes, assholes are certainly "some people".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 07/27/17 6:39:39 AM #17:	Women are undeniably less physically capable than men. Obviously there are outliers on both sides, but the average man would dominate the average woman in anything physical. --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:883682289] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>Women are undeniably less physically capable than men. Obviously there are outliers on both sides, but the average man would dominate the average woman in anything physical.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
moddedman 07/27/17 7:21:27 AM #18:	Don't see why any gender who wants to serve your country is a bad thing.... We all bleed the same. If your capable of any job does it matter what's under someone's clothes. Human prejudice makes me sad. --- \m/(>_<)\m/ <cite>moddedman posted [p:883683101] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>Don't see why any gender who wants to serve your country is a bad thing.... We all bleed the same. If your capable of any job does it matter what's under someone's clothes. Human prejudice makes me sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 07/27/17 9:33:03 AM #19:	Veedrock- posted... Your vendetta is showing because nowhere did he say or imply that. Zeus' thinly-veiled misogyny is nothing new, if you watch his posting for a while and take a moment to understand what he's really saying. SmokeMassTree posted... Women are undeniably less physically capable than men. Obviously there are outliers on both sides, but the average man would dominate the average woman in anything physical. Neither the average man nor the average woman will be attaining a physically demanding position in the military, though. Averages are largely irrelevant. There are already physical fitness criteria in place for service members; no need to add another layer to that by bringing gender into the mix. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:883686802] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>Your vendetta is showing because nowhere did he say or imply that.</quote> Zeus' thinly-veiled misogyny is nothing new, if you watch his posting for a while and take a moment to understand what he's really saying. <cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote>Women are undeniably less physically capable than men. Obviously there are outliers on both sides, but the average man would dominate the average woman in anything physical.</quote> Neither the average man nor the average woman will be attaining a physically demanding position in the military, though. Averages are largely irrelevant. There are already physical fitness criteria in place for service members; no need to add another layer to that by bringing gender into the mix.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gewlosh 07/27/17 9:50:35 AM #20:	Now that Trump has leftists defending the MIC, I wonder what type of strike or attack he's planning? --- blah blah <cite>gewlosh posted [p:883687497] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>Now that Trump has leftists defending the MIC, I wonder what type of strike or attack he's planning?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZiggiStardust 07/27/17 9:52:08 AM #21:	you guys shouldn't take it so seriously. this is purely financially fueled, nothing more, ok? --- http://www.twitch.tv/agenttrav <cite>ZiggiStardust posted [p:883687569] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>you guys shouldn't take it so seriously. this is purely financially fueled, nothing more, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 07/27/17 10:10:27 AM #22:	ZiggiStardust posted... you guys shouldn't take it so seriously. this is purely financially fueled, nothing more, ok? The only people who believe that are people who either haven't seen the numbers, or don't understand the numbers. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:883688377] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZiggiStardust posted...</cite> <quote>you guys shouldn't take it so seriously. this is purely financially fueled, nothing more, ok?</quote> The only people who believe that are people who either haven't seen the numbers, or don't understand the numbers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountessRolab 07/27/17 12:00:22 PM #23:	adjl posted... ZiggiStardust posted... you guys shouldn't take it so seriously. this is purely financially fueled, nothing more, ok? The only people who believe that are people who either haven't seen the numbers, or don't understand the numbers. This. It is such a weak excuse. --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:883693749] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZiggiStardust posted...</cite> <quote>you guys shouldn't take it so seriously. this is purely financially fueled, nothing more, ok?</quote> The only people who believe that are people who either haven't seen the numbers, or don't understand the numbers.</quote> This. It is such a weak excuse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thunder_54 07/27/17 12:01:19 PM #24:	If you were openly trans in the past, weren't you already banned? It's not that this is new news, it's just that Trump confirmed it openly and said it wouldn't change. --- http://i.imgur.com/Mi1LkTl.jpg "It's all consensual" - Thunder <cite>Thunder_54 posted [p:883693814] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>If you were openly trans in the past, weren't you already banned? It's not that this is new news, it's just that Trump confirmed it openly and said it wouldn't change.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 07/27/17 12:03:32 PM #25:	adjl posted... ZiggiStardust posted... you guys shouldn't take it so seriously. this is purely financially fueled, nothing more, ok? The only people who believe that are people who either haven't seen the numbers, or don't understand the numbers. +Or they just don't care. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q <cite>Yellow posted [p:883693946] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZiggiStardust posted...</cite> <quote>you guys shouldn't take it so seriously. this is purely financially fueled, nothing more, ok?</quote> The only people who believe that are people who either haven't seen the numbers, or don't understand the numbers.</quote> +Or they just don't care.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountessRolab 07/27/17 12:03:34 PM #26:	Thunder_54 posted... If you were openly trans in the past, weren't you already banned? It's not that this is new news, it's just that Trump confirmed it openly and said it wouldn't change. There was a ban, but Obama removed it, a bunch of trans people came out, now trump is going to purge them all from the military and reinstate the ban. --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:883693948] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Thunder_54 posted...</cite> <quote>If you were openly trans in the past, weren't you already banned? It's not that this is new news, it's just that Trump confirmed it openly and said it wouldn't change.</quote> There was a ban, but Obama removed it, a bunch of trans people came out, now trump is going to purge them all from the military and reinstate the ban.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thunder_54 07/27/17 12:04:38 PM #27:	CountessRolab posted... Thunder_54 posted... If you were openly trans in the past, weren't you already banned? It's not that this is new news, it's just that Trump confirmed it openly and said it wouldn't change. There was a ban, but Obama removed it, a bunch of trans people came out, now trump is going to purge them all from the military and reinstate the ban. Ahhh, that makes a lot of sense. --- http://i.imgur.com/Mi1LkTl.jpg "It's all consensual" - Thunder <cite>Thunder_54 posted [p:883694004] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Thunder_54 posted...</cite> <quote>If you were openly trans in the past, weren't you already banned? It's not that this is new news, it's just that Trump confirmed it openly and said it wouldn't change.</quote> There was a ban, but Obama removed it, a bunch of trans people came out, now trump is going to purge them all from the military and reinstate the ban.</quote> Ahhh, that makes a lot of sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 07/27/17 12:09:00 PM #28:	http://thehill.com/policy/defense/344107-joint-chiefs-chairman-no-change-in-transgender-policy-until-trump-sends The highest-ranking military officer in the country said that the military’s transgender policy won’t actively change until President Trump sends specific directions to the Pentagon. “There will be no modifications to the current policy until the president’s direction has been received by the secretary of defense and the secretary has issued implementation guidance,” Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Joseph Dunford wrote in a letter. --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:883694289] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>http://thehill.com/policy/defense/344107-joint-chiefs-chairman-no-change-in-transgender-policy-until-trump-sends <quote>The highest-ranking military officer in the country said that the military’s transgender policy won’t actively change until President Trump sends specific directions to the Pentagon. “There will be no modifications to the current policy until the president’s direction has been received by the secretary of defense and the secretary has issued implementation guidance,” Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Joseph Dunford wrote in a letter.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 07/27/17 12:11:35 PM #29:	Veterans Affairs Secretary David Shulkin said Wednesday that he "was not aware" that President Donald Trump would announce on Twitter that he was barring transgender people from serving in the military. --- "Certainly, when you personalize care, there are added costs," Shulkin said. “Transgender veterans do require staff that are trained to be able to deal with their situation appropriately so that they can get the care that they want with the dignity and the outcomes that they deserve.” Shulkin said he believed that the VA would able to handle an influx of transgender veterans when they are no longer able to serve. "I don't see this as a major complication for us. I think that it's important that veterans know that the VA is a safe place to get their care," he told Cosby, adding, that "we value and respect the dignity of all our veterans." Shulkin said he is not “overly concerned” about shifts in funding, though his department must still fully grasp the impact of this change to make adjustments as necessary. He said while the requirements for serving changed, the support after serving remains steadfast. “Once a person signs up to defend our country, they have to know that the VA is there and committed to them through the end of their life," he said in the interview. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/26/shulkin-transgender-ban-trump-241005 --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:883694427] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><quote>Veterans Affairs Secretary David Shulkin said Wednesday that he "was not aware" that President Donald Trump would announce on Twitter that he was barring transgender people from serving in the military. --- "Certainly, when you personalize care, there are added costs," Shulkin said. “Transgender veterans do require staff that are trained to be able to deal with their situation appropriately so that they can get the care that they want with the dignity and the outcomes that they deserve.” Shulkin said he believed that the VA would able to handle an influx of transgender veterans when they are no longer able to serve. "I don't see this as a major complication for us. I think that it's important that veterans know that the VA is a safe place to get their care," he told Cosby, adding, that "we value and respect the dignity of all our veterans." Shulkin said he is not “overly concerned” about shifts in funding, though his department must still fully grasp the impact of this change to make adjustments as necessary. He said while the requirements for serving changed, the support after serving remains steadfast. “Once a person signs up to defend our country, they have to know that the VA is there and committed to them through the end of their life," he said in the interview.</quote> http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/26/shulkin-transgender-ban-trump-241005</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountessRolab 07/27/17 12:11:44 PM #30:	Remember this lie? --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:883694433] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>Remember this lie? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 07/27/17 12:21:24 PM #31:	Remember when he recognized Pride Month? http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/340344-trump-breaks-tradition-doesnt-recognize-lgbt-pride-month He made five other official proclamations in June and happened to omit Pride. https://qz.com/1015069/gay-pride-2017-donald-trumps-white-house-does-not-acknowledge-lgbtq-pride-month/ --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:883695008] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>Remember when he recognized Pride Month? http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/340344-trump-breaks-tradition-doesnt-recognize-lgbt-pride-month He made five other official proclamations in June and happened to omit Pride. https://qz.com/1015069/gay-pride-2017-donald-trumps-white-house-does-not-acknowledge-lgbtq-pride-month/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 07/27/17 12:23:36 PM #32:	CountessRolab posted... Remember this lie? I remember when half the Democrats/Independents I knew fell for it. Hillary had us at checkmate so in response we threw ourselves into a pit of lava and said "fuck you". --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q <cite>Yellow posted [p:883695132] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote>Remember this lie?</quote> I remember when half the Democrats/Independents I knew fell for it. Hillary had us at checkmate so in response we threw ourselves into a pit of lava and said "fuck you".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZiggiStardust 07/27/17 12:38:48 PM #33:	CountessRolab posted... adjl posted... ZiggiStardust posted... you guys shouldn't take it so seriously. this is purely financially fueled, nothing more, ok? The only people who believe that are people who either haven't seen the numbers, or don't understand the numbers. This. It is such a weak excuse. I mean, whether you think it's weak or not, that's what this boils down to. Trump doesn't believe in anything except the financial bottom line, ok? http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/019/588/No_idea.jpg --- http://www.twitch.tv/agenttrav <cite>ZiggiStardust posted [p:883695985] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZiggiStardust posted...</cite> <quote>you guys shouldn't take it so seriously. this is purely financially fueled, nothing more, ok?</quote> The only people who believe that are people who either haven't seen the numbers, or don't understand the numbers.</quote> This. It is such a weak excuse.</quote> I mean, whether you think it's weak or not, that's what this boils down to. Trump doesn't believe in anything except the financial bottom line, ok? http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/019/588/No_idea.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 07/27/17 12:58:31 PM #34:	i feel bad for anybody who voted trump thinking he wouldnt be that bad in terms of stuff like this. Thats what I heard a lot of his fans say pre election. Oh he wont be so bad in terms of this, that and the other thing when its trump and his views, thoughts and beliefs change like a dang chameleon. But thats okay, this move further entrenches his hardcore base while alienating people who likely didnt like trump anyways. doesnt do much to harm the guy, so in that regard, he won!!! well, despite the fact this isnt even a law or official at this point and the pentagon said they need further direction before anything happens. but hey, what could amount to an empty gesture doesnt matter to his base. Though if the gesture turns out to be empty and its never made official or w/e, his fans will say "well it didnt even get set in stone, so trump isnt that bad" as if trying, yet failing to do something bad makes you an okay guy. <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:883697060] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>i feel bad for anybody who voted trump thinking he wouldnt be that bad in terms of stuff like this. Thats what I heard a lot of his fans say pre election. Oh he wont be so bad in terms of this, that and the other thing when its trump and his views, thoughts and beliefs change like a dang chameleon. But thats okay, this move further entrenches his hardcore base while alienating people who likely didnt like trump anyways. doesnt do much to harm the guy, so in that regard, he won!!! well, despite the fact this isnt even a law or official at this point and the pentagon said they need further direction before anything happens. but hey, what could amount to an empty gesture doesnt matter to his base. Though if the gesture turns out to be empty and its never made official or w/e, his fans will say "well it didnt even get set in stone, so trump isnt that bad" as if trying, yet failing to do something bad makes you an okay guy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountessRolab 07/27/17 1:03:43 PM #35:	The only good thing to say about trump on this issue is that all the other republicans would be worse. I never expected trump to fight for LGBT people, but I didnt expect him to actively take rights away like this. ZiggiStardust posted... I mean, whether you think it's weak or not, that's what this boils down to. Trump doesn't believe in anything except the financial bottom line, ok? You are brainwashed. --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:883697369] in The most m... [t:75609103]...</cite> <quote>The only good thing to say about trump on this issue is that all the other republicans would be worse. I never expected trump to fight for LGBT people, but I didnt expect him to actively take rights away like this. <cite>ZiggiStardust posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, whether you think it's weak or not, that's what this boils down to. Trump doesn't believe in anything except the financial bottom line, ok?</quote> You are brainwashed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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