Poll of the Day > The 'Problem' with Movie Making Today.

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DarkKirby2500
07/27/17 1:02:47 AM
#1:


Do you agree with this? (Video Below)




Redlettermedia - Movie Making Today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ1oM_EdVpQ


This video is an excerpt from their Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTYjD606cWM

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Conner4REAL
07/27/17 1:08:53 AM
#2:


Not watching it.

But here is the actual problem.

Not enough actual comedies. Marvel movies are legit, but they set a "bar of gross sales" that is way higher than it should be. If you look at numbers available. Most marvel movies have a low irr compared to other classic movies.

But spend a billion dollars to make. 1.1 billion and that's apparently better than spending 25m to make 500m.

Either way the industry must push for one real comedy every month.
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Zeus
07/27/17 1:40:39 AM
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Disagree. Corporate meddling has always been a thing although, back when actors, etc, were treated as chattel, you had less creative interference from your workers. Actually, interference might have been worse back then since it was more common practice for studio heads, producers, directors, writers, etc, to insist that a girlfriend or mistress who couldn't act get a role in the film.

Today one of the problems might be focus-grouping and trying to target for mass appeal while making the rest of the film a little bland. At any rate, total creative control only really works when your creative person is actually good. For instance, Tommy Wiseau had a tremendous amount of creative control over The Room since he wrote, directed, and starred in it. However, nobody would call that a good movie. And there are tons of indie films just like it.
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DarkKirby2500
07/27/17 4:39:45 PM
#4:


bump
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HylianFox
07/27/17 4:44:31 PM
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People who think movies have only gotten worse need to check out a little era known as the 50s and 60s

Those two decade produced more shitty B movies than you can imagine
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Trancer Hunter
07/27/17 4:58:11 PM
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Mel Gibson's Payback was a more enjoyable movie because of studio meddling.
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ParanoidObsessive
07/27/17 5:06:02 PM
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HylianFox posted...
People who think movies have only gotten worse need to check out a little era known as the 50s and 60s

Those two decade produced more shitty B movies than you can imagine

The problem is that most people feel like the later 60s and the 70s produced a lot of artistic films that were masterpieces, while the 80s and 90s tended more towards blockbusters and action films, but the industry as a whole is no longer really capable of the same highs it used to hit on a somewhat regular basis.

In a way, film is exactly the same as the current gaming industry - most of the major massive studios see the business AS a business and keep churning out financially successful but creatively bankrupt mega-titles, while the indie scene is where you'll find most of the actual creativity, but where you'll also find a ton of amateurish and/or pretentious garbage that tends to drown out the worthwhile alternatives.

It's that polarizing effect that makes it seem like both movies and games are always crap now, because you really aren't seeing that Venn diagram crossover between "brilliant" and "mainstream financial success". Which is why the rare example that does sort of straddle that line always seems to be such a huge deal when it happens - we're not used to seeing it any more.


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