Poll of the Day > Fast food workers strike for $15 minimum wage.

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wwinterj25
09/05/17 12:28:16 AM
#51:


SmokeMassTree posted...
Exactly. The more skilled people would get jobs, when you're more skilled you can ask for more money

Agreed. There is a reason high paid jobs exist and working at fast food places requires zero skill. I'm not knocking the job as it's good for some folk but to get paid anything more than minimum wage for a job like that is silly. I mean I've worked fast food and retail but certainly don't expect £10 a hour like a labourer would get or something like that.
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SmokeMassTree
09/05/17 12:32:13 AM
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These jobs are just entry level. It's really not anyone's problem but yours if you can't move up or onto a better job.

Learn some basic skills, not how to flip burgers or fry shit, but how to work and go to work everyday and not call off or be a complete asshole.

Move on
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Zeus
09/05/17 1:06:22 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...
Shenti_Reborn posted...
Good. I just got back from taking my grandma to wal-mart--and she bought me a few things, bless her heart--and bruh for a place that fucking tries to advertise themselves with the slogan "Everyday low prices!" it was literally anything but

Fucking medium sized bag of cheetos was fucking $2.50 no fucking joke and that's not even the worst of it. go to wal-mart and see just how shitty our economy has gotten while everyone was distracted with the presidential race bullshit and other shenanigans

we're fucked unless we start paying our workers what they're fucking owed. you literally can't live on anything less than maybe $12/hour @ 40+ hours a week and don't give me that fucking high horse high pedestal bull shit like "DERRR WELL IF DEY WANT A LIVING WAGE WORK A REAL JOB NOT SOMETHING HIGH SCHOOL KIDS DO DERRR" Yeah dude because everyone is like you and has had all the same fucking opportunities and didn't commit any mistakes dude fuck off with that fucking shit. Not everyone is born with a diamond spoon in their colon and rich parents that do everything for them. Some people never even had parents.

Don't anyone even fucking try saying that shit to me I wish somebody would tho


You do realize that, if required to pay all of their employees more per hour, Wal Mart's prices will go even higher, right?

You seemed to have contradicted yourself there.


Shenti is just a beta so he doesn't understand stuff like that. He also doesn't seem to understand that those workers are already paid more than what they're owed, since the minimum wage bumps up the natural compensation for their labor.

SmokeMassTree posted...
These jobs are just entry level. It's really not anyone's problem but yours if you can't move up or onto a better job.

Learn some basic skills, not how to flip burgers or fry shit, but how to work and go to work everyday and not call off or be a complete asshole.

Move on


This, pretty much. It's mostly also just protecting jobs that will be made obsolete by automation within the next decade, so legislators should spend more time figuring out what's next.
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BADoglick
09/05/17 1:35:53 AM
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People seem to not realize that a low minimum wage means that the employer is passing the burden of paying their workers onto you, the taxpayer, when you consider that those working for close to the current minimum wage are usually receiving some sort of government assistance.
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Yellow
09/05/17 1:39:04 AM
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BADoglick posted...
People seem to not realize that a low minimum wage means that the employer is passing the burden of paying their workers onto you, the taxpayer, when you consider that those working for close to the current minimum wage are usually receiving some sort of government assistance.

I feel like there's some math to be done here. It is an exact science.. but it's treated like it isn't.
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wwinterj25
09/05/17 1:47:25 AM
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BADoglick posted...
when you consider that those working for close to the current minimum wage are usually receiving some sort of government assistance.


They do? Over here if you get minimum wage that's your lot save for the odd few things like child benefit in some cases.
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Kyuubi4269
09/05/17 1:49:11 AM
#57:


wwinterj25 posted...
but certainly don't expect £10 a hour like a labourer would get or something like that.

Labourers are also minimum wage, even £9/hour is self-employed stuff.
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wwinterj25
09/05/17 2:43:37 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Labourers are also minimum wage, even £9/hour is self-employed stuff.


Yet I've seen labouring jobs that pay £10 a hour and know some folk who get £10 a hour for doing it. The mystery continues!
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SmokeMassTree
09/05/17 2:46:24 AM
#59:


wwinterj25 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Labourers are also minimum wage, even £9/hour is self-employed stuff.


Yet I've seen labouring jobs that pay £10 a hour and know some folk who get £10 a hour for doing it. The mystery continues!


TgtkkeG

They make about $15-18 here
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wwinterj25
09/05/17 2:47:14 AM
#60:


SmokeMassTree posted...
TgtkkeG

They make about $15-18 here


Seems about right.
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SmokeMassTree
09/05/17 2:54:15 AM
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Not if you're saying they make about $12.50 over there
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AlleRacing
09/05/17 3:23:03 AM
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Labor is a commodity, and the people who supply that commodity are demanding more in return for it. Seems like basic capitalism to me.
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ferko420
09/05/17 4:03:40 AM
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How'd that work out for seattle... First robo McDonalds... Play stupid games, win stupid prizes...
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TigerTycoon
09/05/17 4:27:40 AM
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I care more about low prices than I do about the income of part time employees.
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RoboXgp89
09/05/17 4:59:05 AM
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I'd rather real estate, food, cars, health insurance just be made 2x cheaper than raise the min wage
nobody wants to work eight hours at miccyD's if they did they wouldn't get another job
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Gardens
09/05/17 1:09:07 PM
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What will be their response when they're replaced with AI that can do the job more efficiently, without demanding a raise for a task so simple a robot could perform it?
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wwinterj25
09/05/17 6:04:17 PM
#67:


SmokeMassTree posted...
Not if you're saying they make about $12.50 over there

I'm saying $15 is around £11.50. That's not that far off £10 hence the "about right" part.
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Shenti_Reborn
09/05/17 7:15:02 PM
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Gardens posted...
What will be their response when they're replaced with AI that can do the job more efficiently, without demanding a raise for a task so simple a robot could perform it?


I dunno why people keep bringing this up. H'okay bud, let's see you make a robot that can do all that shit without any hiccups. Let's see them get the food, prepare the food, cook/heat the food, assemble the food, sort the food and bag it and give it to the customer, after taking their order and understanding every word perfectly of course.

H'okay bud. I've heard of those automated McDonald's but it's mostly a publicity stunt; it's not actually completely automated and it won't be within our lifetimes probably bro. Technology's great but we're not at that level yet. This shit ain't Futurama or the Jetsons.

Pay us the fucking money we're owed. I don't just mean fast food workers I mean everyone that has to fucking work for peanuts with a full time job and still can't afford shit. Nah fuck that. If this government wants to keep their necks and jobs they better start doing some shit fast; antifa's picking up speed and that's just one of the many problems those white collar, white haired billionaires will have to worry about

real talk
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RoboXgp89
09/05/17 7:15:57 PM
#69:


Gardens posted...
What will be their response when they're replaced with AI that can do the job more efficiently, without demanding a raise for a task so simple a robot could perform it?


I work six hours a day there nights, none of the stuff I do could be done by a robot, it's all cleaning, washing, taking out the trash

wish i kept my other job and had two jobs now
oh well
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green dragon
09/05/17 7:29:59 PM
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Shenti_Reborn posted...
I dunno why people keep bringing this up. H'okay bud, let's see you make a robot that can do all that shit without any hiccups. Let's see them get the food, prepare the food, cook/heat the food, assemble the food, sort the food and bag it and give it to the customer, after taking their order and understanding every word perfectly of course.

bro, the people ordering the food don't have to talk to the robots. they could order it via touch screen (or some other fool proof way) at a kiosk or something.

I'm not going to bother reading the rest of your post since you can't even think outside the box just a little bit
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Shenti_Reborn
09/05/17 7:36:27 PM
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green dragon posted...
bro, the people ordering the food don't have to talk to the robots. they could order it via touch screen (or some other fool proof way) at a kiosk or something.

I'm not going to bother reading the rest of your post since you can't even think outside the box just a little bit


well i'm not going to bother reading the rest of your post either b/c ur a lil guy who can't bench more than maybe 120 lbs lol
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green dragon
09/05/17 7:37:15 PM
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Shenti_Reborn posted...
well i'm not going to bother reading the rest of your post either b/c ur a lil guy who can't bench more than maybe 120 lbs lol

there wasn't anything else after that. plus I'm stronger than you
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Veedrock-
09/05/17 8:35:11 PM
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I've had 8 jobs over the last 8 years, all entry level, and I've never made minimum wage.
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RoboXgp89
09/05/17 8:38:10 PM
#74:


Veedrock- posted...
I've had 8 jobs over the last 8 years, all entry level, and I've never made minimum wage.


that's a horrible analolgy

guardian did a peice on a black women who worked at arbys
she could never go salaried because she'd have to get her kids from day care
so she was pulling in like 900bucks and walking out with 90bucks in a store she ran by herself
if the min wage adjusted with inflation it would have been 8$ an hour almost ten years ago
now we have hyper inflation
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Shenti_Reborn
09/05/17 9:20:25 PM
#75:


green dragon posted...
Shenti_Reborn posted...
well i'm not going to bother reading the rest of your post either b/c ur a lil guy who can't bench more than maybe 120 lbs lol

there wasn't anything else after that. plus I'm stronger than you


except you can't prove it and i can so git gud lil man
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SmokeMassTree
09/05/17 9:22:19 PM
#76:


wwinterj25 posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
Not if you're saying they make about $12.50 over there

I'm saying $15 is around £11.50. That's not that far off £10 hence the "about right" part.


No.

You said weirdE10 is $15
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WhiskeyDisk
09/05/17 9:45:36 PM
#77:


What is so special about the fast food workers where they all get to demand a $15 minimum wage, but no other jobs getting minimum wage can do the same? Either make the minimum wage $15 across the board at the federal and state level or just forget about it entirely.

But let's not all act like running a fryolator is some specialized skill and driving a forklift isn't.
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WhiskeyDisk
09/05/17 9:47:58 PM
#78:


Shenti_Reborn posted...
Gardens posted...
What will be their response when they're replaced with AI that can do the job more efficiently, without demanding a raise for a task so simple a robot could perform it?


I dunno why people keep bringing this up. H'okay bud, let's see you make a robot that can do all that shit without any hiccups. Let's see them get the food, prepare the food, cook/heat the food, assemble the food, sort the food and bag it and give it to the customer, after taking their order and understanding every word perfectly of course.

H'okay bud. I've heard of those automated McDonald's but it's mostly a publicity stunt; it's not actually completely automated and it won't be within our lifetimes probably bro. Technology's great but we're not at that level yet. This shit ain't Futurama or the Jetsons.

Pay us the fucking money we're owed. I don't just mean fast food workers I mean everyone that has to fucking work for peanuts with a full time job and still can't afford shit. Nah fuck that. If this government wants to keep their necks and jobs they better start doing some shit fast; antifa's picking up speed and that's just one of the many problems those white collar, white haired billionaires will have to worry about

real talk



If robots can build a fucking automobile on an assembly line, I'm pretty sure they can figure out how to automate a fucking big Mac.
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Questionmarktarius
09/05/17 10:25:19 PM
#79:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
Shenti_Reborn posted...
Gardens posted...
What will be their response when they're replaced with AI that can do the job more efficiently, without demanding a raise for a task so simple a robot could perform it?


I dunno why people keep bringing this up. H'okay bud, let's see you make a robot that can do all that shit without any hiccups. Let's see them get the food, prepare the food, cook/heat the food, assemble the food, sort the food and bag it and give it to the customer, after taking their order and understanding every word perfectly of course.

H'okay bud. I've heard of those automated McDonald's but it's mostly a publicity stunt; it's not actually completely automated and it won't be within our lifetimes probably bro. Technology's great but we're not at that level yet. This shit ain't Futurama or the Jetsons.

Pay us the fucking money we're owed. I don't just mean fast food workers I mean everyone that has to fucking work for peanuts with a full time job and still can't afford shit. Nah fuck that. If this government wants to keep their necks and jobs they better start doing some shit fast; antifa's picking up speed and that's just one of the many problems those white collar, white haired billionaires will have to worry about

real talk



If robots can build a fucking automobile on an assembly line, I'm pretty sure they can figure out how to automate a fucking big Mac.

The reality is, this isn't going to happen. Not immediately, anyway.
What will happen, is the cashiers are just gone and replaced by touchscreens, and the two guys in the back now have to handle bagging and drive-through.
This, of course, assumes there's even a second guy in the back.

The endgame of all of this going to be the return of automats, soon.
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wwinterj25
09/06/17 1:28:29 AM
#80:


SmokeMassTree posted...
No.

You said weirdE10 is $15


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AlleRacing
09/06/17 9:50:00 AM
#81:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
What is so special about the fast food workers where they all get to demand a $15 minimum wage, but no other jobs getting minimum wage can do the same? Either make the minimum wage $15 across the board at the federal and state level or just forget about it entirely.

But let's not all act like running a fryolator is some specialized skill and driving a forklift isn't.

Having worked in both fast food and in a warehouse, I found forklift a lot easier and less stressful, and it doesn't really take much skill, and it paid 50% more. IMO, the minimum should rise across the board (and here it is, thankfully). If that means that it's more economical to automate some of those jobs, so be it. Not all of them can be automated, and the duty that will inevitably get shunted to other employees for the things that automation can't take care of will more than justify the increased wage.
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Smarkil
09/06/17 12:44:16 PM
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Shenti_Reborn posted...

I dunno why people keep bringing this up. H'okay bud, let's see you make a robot that can do all that shit without any hiccups. Let's see them get the food, prepare the food, cook/heat the food, assemble the food, sort the food and bag it and give it to the customer, after taking their order and understanding every word perfectly of course.

H'okay bud. I've heard of those automated McDonald's but it's mostly a publicity stunt; it's not actually completely automated and it won't be within our lifetimes probably bro. Technology's great but we're not at that level yet. This shit ain't Futurama or the Jetsons.

Pay us the fucking money we're owed. I don't just mean fast food workers I mean everyone that has to fucking work for peanuts with a full time job and still can't afford shit. Nah fuck that. If this government wants to keep their necks and jobs they better start doing some shit fast; antifa's picking up speed and that's just one of the many problems those white collar, white haired billionaires will have to worry about



Guy who got fired from a vape shop says what?
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Action53
09/06/17 12:50:36 PM
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Smarkil posted...
Shenti_Reborn posted...

I dunno why people keep bringing this up. H'okay bud, let's see you make a robot that can do all that shit without any hiccups. Let's see them get the food, prepare the food, cook/heat the food, assemble the food, sort the food and bag it and give it to the customer, after taking their order and understanding every word perfectly of course.

H'okay bud. I've heard of those automated McDonald's but it's mostly a publicity stunt; it's not actually completely automated and it won't be within our lifetimes probably bro. Technology's great but we're not at that level yet. This shit ain't Futurama or the Jetsons.

Pay us the fucking money we're owed. I don't just mean fast food workers I mean everyone that has to fucking work for peanuts with a full time job and still can't afford shit. Nah fuck that. If this government wants to keep their necks and jobs they better start doing some shit fast; antifa's picking up speed and that's just one of the many problems those white collar, white haired billionaires will have to worry about



Guy who squandered his dad's pop business he inhereted says what?

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captainjeff87
09/06/17 1:01:13 PM
#84:


Welcome to America in 2017! Not getting what you want out of life? No problem! Just cry and protest untill those big mean corporations give you what you want. No need to actually work for anything like your parents or grandparents did, just whine and protest about how flipping burgers is on the level of going to college and getting an actual job. Now everyone can look forward to paying $20 for a Big Mac because of you. Congrats!
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OhhhJa
09/06/17 1:02:53 PM
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It's like these people don't realize they are easily replaced. Just because your job sucks doesn't mean you deserve more money
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Shenti_Reborn
09/06/17 4:17:02 PM
#86:


Smarkil posted...
Guy who got fired from a vape shop says what?


no, i was "let go" and nobody there ever told me why. i later found out from a friend that the rumor was someone made up some bullshit and said i was selling drugs to co-workers. i think it was the manager, who was a total...well, nobody liked her at all and she's lucky i didn't know that was the reason at the time b/c i would have gotten her ass fired so fucking fast. it's in the past now i guess

Action53 posted...
Guy who squandered his dad's pop business he inhereted says what?


lol everyone always thinks it's so easy but they never get the chance to try it. after my dad passed i let two of my friends run it for a while for me and they gave up like in less than a month and never talked shit to me about it again

The funny thing is though it actually really is easy as fuck once you've done it for a while. man i had the life back then bro. work once a week for like 4 hours just driving from place to place, shootin' the shit with the regulars, giving them free drinks or snacks and building a rapport. Fucking dad just had to keep drinking, but I guess I'll never know the true extent of his pain. nobody can know what another person's shoes feel like until they walk in them bro

p.s.: it's spelled "inherited" u goon
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Action53
09/06/17 4:52:43 PM
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Duck-I-Says
09/06/17 4:56:31 PM
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captainjeff87 posted...
No need to actually work for anything like your parents or grandparents did


Well we weren't lucky enough to be born in the peak of a time where a massive war annihilated the infrastructure of pretty much every major competitor and artificially inflated worker incomes due to decreased global competition.

We weren't the ones who made $12 an hour (in 2017 dollars) working minimum wage jobs in a time where cost of living was dramatically lower.

We weren't the ones who used hard won labor rights to get situated and then once we got our share, immediately start pulling those ladders up behind us by consistently fighting against all the labor rights they used when starting out.
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Smarkil
09/06/17 4:56:46 PM
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Shenti_Reborn posted...
lol everyone always thinks it's so easy but they never get the chance to try it. after my dad passed i let two of my friends run it for a while for me and they gave up like in less than a month and never talked shit to me about it again

The funny thing is though it actually really is easy as fuck once you've done it for a while.


So...you gave up on it why?
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Shenti_Reborn
09/06/17 5:15:44 PM
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Action53 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYxjJljb_5Y


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lmfao, not bad

Smarkil posted...
So...you gave up on it why?


It was falling apart. Like, literally. Half of the machines were on the fritz and I had no fucking clue how to fix them. My dad always handled that shit; I just drove around, stocked the machines and then went to Sam's to restock. he literally did everything for me and i got used to that life so when it was suddenly over there was no way i could adjust and mature in time to fix everything so i just ran away from it. again it's easy to judge someone's shoes from the outside bro but maybe you should try them on and break them in before doing so
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Smarkil
09/06/17 6:10:06 PM
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Shenti_Reborn posted...
It was falling apart. Like, literally. Half of the machines were on the fritz and I had no fucking clue how to fix them. My dad always handled that shit; I just drove around, stocked the machines and then went to Sam's to restock. he literally did everything for me and i got used to that life so when it was suddenly over there was no way i could adjust and mature in time to fix everything so i just ran away from it. again it's easy to judge someone's shoes from the outside bro but maybe you should try them on and break them in before doing so


Sounds like someone was born with...what was it you said? A silver spoon up their ass?
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Shenti_Reborn
09/06/17 6:34:39 PM
#92:


Smarkil posted...
Sounds like someone was born with...what was it you said? A silver spoon up their ass?


touche but in actuality mine was more of an aluminum one--at least i still got one but...it certainly isn't a precious metal, if you get my drift

i was definitely blessed and i still am. even after i lost my dad i'm still being protected. my grandma and God are the only reasons i'm still here. i'll keep fighting, not gonna give up that easily

The war continues and I welcome the challenge.
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