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Nichtcrawler X 10/08/17 9:27:56 PM #1: |
Also seeing a lot of topics lately and tried to ask in those but got no response.
Kneeling is one of the most profound ways of showing respect, so why are people acting like it is disrespectful? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacrossSpecial 10/08/17 9:32:51 PM #2: |
America is feeling impotent about fixing our real problems so we had to make up some easier problems to argue about.
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Lightning Bolt 10/08/17 9:47:59 PM #3: |
It's an extra-strength tradition to stand for that specific situation. Doing anything but standing is disrespectful because humans are funny little creatures.
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Nichtcrawler X 10/08/17 9:51:54 PM #4: |
Lightning Bolt posted...
Doing anything but standing is disrespectful because humans are funny little creatures. Being quit and respectful wouldn't be enough? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 10/08/17 9:58:42 PM #5: |
Nichtcrawler X posted...
Kneeling is one of the most profound ways of showing respect, so why are people acting like it is disrespectful? Which is a facetious, trollish claim within this context. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 10/08/17 10:04:04 PM #6: |
Everyone knows that kneeling is the most disrespectful thing a person can do /s
Literally at any sporting event there are tons of people who do not stand for the anthem out of sheer laziness. No one seems to care about that but as soon as some people start doing it to protest racial inequality people can't handle it and the narrative is manufactured that not standing for the anthem is disrespectful which is utter bullshit. #DealWithIt --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lightning Bolt 10/08/17 10:04:10 PM #7: |
Nichtcrawler X posted...
Lightning Bolt posted...Doing anything but standing is disrespectful because humans are funny little creatures. Nope. If you're there, you're meant to perform the ritual with everyone else. Humans are very picky about that kind of thing, their ways are very specific. --- One day dude, I'm just gonna get off the bus, and I'm gonna run in the woods and never come back, and when I come back I'm gonna be the knife master! -The Rev ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shipwreckers 10/08/17 10:05:13 PM #8: |
Nichtcrawler X posted...
Lightning Bolt posted...Doing anything but standing is disrespectful because humans are funny little creatures. Traditions are funny things. It's sorta like putting your hand over your heart during the pledge of allegiance, or standing during the Hallelujah Chorus, or taking off a hat during prayer. People find weird ways to show respect, so when you go against the action, people can't help perceive a lack of respect on your part. But the reality is, respect is something you have to EARN. If someone doesn't respect you, that's not a flaw on them, it's a flaw in your ability to earn said respect. --- Money is overrated... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 10/08/17 10:06:35 PM #9: |
Lightning Bolt posted...
It's an extra-strength tradition to stand for that specific situation. Doing anything but standing is disrespectful because humans are funny little creatures. I guess it is also tradition to show respect by using the time to go grab more beer or use the bathroom --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nichtcrawler X 10/08/17 10:09:56 PM #10: |
Lightning Bolt posted...
If you're there, you're meant to perform the ritual with everyone else. Humans are very picky about that kind of thing, their ways are very specific. Like people who prefer to pray before dinner? I grant them all the time they need, I do not speak, I act in a respectful way (won't grab my phone, make mocking eye movements or whatever), but I will not join in. I treat most traditions that are not mine like that. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 10/08/17 10:10:05 PM #11: |
It's just the latest craze for the media it seems.
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Firewood18 10/08/17 10:10:40 PM #12: |
Kowtow is a funny word. Politics right now is even funnier.
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Lightning Bolt 10/08/17 10:20:48 PM #13: |
Nichtcrawler X posted...
Like people who prefer to pray before dinner? I grant them all the time they need, I do not speak, I act in a respectful way (won't grab my phone, make mocking eye movements or whatever), but I will not join in. I treat most traditions that are not mine like that. Yeah most people are pretty sensible about things. Even if they're displeased they won't make a huge fuss. Though I've definitely gotten weird glances in churches... Fun part about celebrities is that they get exposed to all the loud, unreasonable people out there. And fun thing about the internet is that so do we too! --- One day dude, I'm just gonna get off the bus, and I'm gonna run in the woods and never come back, and when I come back I'm gonna be the knife master! -The Rev ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 10/08/17 10:35:06 PM #14: |
Mead posted...
Literally at any sporting event there are tons of people who do not stand for the anthem out of sheer laziness. No one seems to care about that but as soon as some people start doing it to protest racial inequality people can't handle it and the narrative is manufactured that not standing for the anthem is disrespectful which is utter bullshit. Pretty big difference between not standing out of laziness and kneeling to spite the country. I thought you were a smart enough guy to recognize that difference. Mead posted... #DealWithIt Because apparently serving means that you're magically exempt when it comes to disrespectful displays against the country? As for the highlighted tweet, it was put together by an idiot who thinks that the flag merely stands for the military (which it doesn't) and that a few old, rank&file soldiers somehow represent the entire military (which they do not and cannot). shipwreckers posted... Traditions are funny things. It's sorta like putting your hand over your heart during the pledge of allegiance, or standing during the Hallelujah Chorus, or taking off a hat during prayer. People find weird ways to show respect, so when you go against the action, people can't help perceive a lack of respect on your part. Given that the motive is rather explicitly to show disrespect to the nation over the function of a small portion of its local government, it's not merely a harmless "I didn't mean to disrespect" as it is a giant "fuck you" to the system. shipwreckers posted... But the reality is, respect is something you have to EARN. If someone doesn't respect you, that's not a flaw on them, it's a flaw in your ability to earn said respect. Considering that the country has gone well and above to earn that respect, it's truly the fault of the citizens. While I criticize many of the government's policies, I've never been inclined to bash the country as a whole because I recognize how lucky I am to live in a nation which celebrates a wide array of freedoms and is governed by the people in generally fair elections, shit that isn't true across most of the rest of the world. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 10/08/17 10:45:08 PM #15: |
Zeus posted...
Pretty big difference between not standing out of laziness and kneeling to spite the country. The people kneeling have been clear and concise why they are doing so, yet you and countless others have embraced a fictional narrative because you aren't able to Mead posted... #DealWithIt --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mooreandrew58 10/09/17 12:33:02 AM #16: |
shipwreckers posted...
Nichtcrawler X posted...Lightning Bolt posted...Doing anything but standing is disrespectful because humans are funny little creatures. well america has earned mine. and so have the veterans. america is far from perfect but thanks to our military I sleep peacefully at night with no fear of war coming to where i'm at. sure it could happen but its highly unlikely as no one really wants to fuck with us on our homeland. even japan would only attack hawaii and alaska. and those crazy enough to maybe try like say NK would likely be swiftly dealt with edit: I really dont give a shit about the protest other than I think they are more disrespecting the NFL and teams they play on. as when on that field they represent their team and NFL not their personal selves. but the NFL seems to allow it so whatever. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Syntheticon 10/09/17 12:55:58 AM #17: |
Because murricuh.
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Yellow 10/09/17 12:59:03 AM #18: |
MacrossSpecial posted...
America is feeling impotent about fixing our real problems so we had to make up some easier problems to argue about. This but change America to MSNBC to Fox. I don't think any normal people really give a shit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mooreandrew58 10/09/17 1:03:24 AM #19: |
Yellow posted...
MacrossSpecial posted...America is feeling impotent about fixing our real problems so we had to make up some easier problems to argue about. I think its the other way around normal people seem give a shit about anything the media tells them to give a shit about. but I don't know everyone so i'm just projecting based on people I personally know and people I see on the internet. probably a case of vocal minority I guess --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 10/09/17 1:11:43 AM #20: |
mooreandrew58 posted...
shipwreckers posted...Nichtcrawler X posted...Lightning Bolt posted...Doing anything but standing is disrespectful because humans are funny little creatures. Everyone like mead and the people kneeling are basically spoiled children. They've never had to fear that they might not have food on their table and never had to fear for their safety on a daily basis so they have tomanufacture things to be outraged about to feel important or superior. It's a grown up temper tantrum ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DistantMemory 10/09/17 1:43:10 AM #21: |
OhhhJa posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...shipwreckers posted...Nichtcrawler X posted...Lightning Bolt posted...Doing anything but standing is disrespectful because humans are funny little creatures. Seems to me that the same logic fits the people who get upset over the kneeling just as well, if not moreso. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mooreandrew58 10/09/17 1:47:30 AM #22: |
DistantMemory posted...
OhhhJa posted...mooreandrew58 posted...shipwreckers posted...Nichtcrawler X posted...Lightning Bolt posted...Doing anything but standing is disrespectful because humans are funny little creatures. yeah way I see it anyone who has strong opinions on it one way or the other is overreacting. if they are forced to stand its not that big of a deal really, if the NFL allows them to kneel well not that big of a deal really. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 10/09/17 5:12:00 AM #23: |
OhhhJa posted...
It's a grown up temper tantrum Says the guy getting upset over what posture people are holding during a song. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SomeUsername529 10/09/17 6:47:24 AM #24: |
I don't know why its become such a big thing when there's no ability to follow up on it. It's like a physical "like and share this video to spread awareness" social media meme.
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Lokarin 10/09/17 7:10:06 AM #25: |
lol butt hurt tradcons
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LeetCheet 10/09/17 8:49:26 AM #26: |
'Take a knee'?
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adjl 10/09/17 8:57:37 AM #27: |
shipwreckers posted...
or standing during the Hallelujah Chorus, That one's not so much about respect. It started when the king at the time arbitrarily thought he should stand the first time he heard it, and everyone followed suit because that's what you do with kings, and the tradition stuck. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 10/09/17 2:12:29 PM #28: |
darkknight109 posted...
OhhhJa posted...It's a grown up temper tantrum Couldn't I apply the same logic to you getting upset that I'm pointing out the idiocy of this protest. I'm sure lots of folks in a country like Somalia would find this protest ridiculous too ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DistantMemory 10/09/17 3:08:59 PM #29: |
OhhhJa posted...
darkknight109 posted...OhhhJa posted...It's a grown up temper tantrum That really depends on whether or not he's actually upset. It's not apparent that he is though you clearly are. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 10/09/17 3:13:36 PM #30: |
DistantMemory posted...
OhhhJa posted...darkknight109 posted...OhhhJa posted...It's a grown up temper tantrum Naw he replies in all these topics. It clearly bothers him. All these people are like "you shouldn't get mad about a peaceful protest" but are clearly upset about people boycotting the nfl. I wouldn't boycott over something like that though. I've been watching all the games I can ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DistantMemory 10/09/17 3:15:25 PM #31: |
I notice that whenever someone is accused of being upset they tend to respond with the word "nah" or "naw".
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Mead 10/09/17 3:18:43 PM #32: |
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OhhhJa 10/09/17 3:32:43 PM #33: |
DistantMemory posted...
I notice that whenever someone is accused of being upset they tend to respond with the word "nah" or "naw". I've noticed that when people have nothing to say they deflect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 10/09/17 5:13:05 PM #34: |
OhhhJa posted...
DistantMemory posted...OhhhJa posted...darkknight109 posted...OhhhJa posted...It's a grown up temper tantrum I think this is the first time I've responded in a topic about the NFL, given that I don't follow the game. So no, you're wrong. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nichtcrawler X 10/09/17 5:14:59 PM #35: |
darkknight109 posted...
I think this is the first time I've responded in a topic about the NFL, given that I don't follow the game. I'm sure I'd have known had I made a topic about American Football... Edit: I am just assuming the F stands for Football, might even be Baseball or Icehockey for all I know... --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 10/09/17 5:18:31 PM #36: |
The news and our president are using the kneeling, which isn't a disrespecting jab at the military or veterans but actually a call to end racial injustice, as another dividing line in order to further distract us. They do not want us standing, or kneeling, together since a unified populace is the last thing a government seeking to hold us in a state of total control wants.
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DistantMemory 10/09/17 5:20:37 PM #37: |
OhhhJa posted...
DistantMemory posted...I notice that whenever someone is accused of being upset they tend to respond with the word "nah" or "naw". I don't take issue with what you said. I wasn't arguing, I was just making an observation. I have no way of knowing whether what you said about that guy is true or not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacrossSpecial 10/09/17 11:16:05 PM #38: |
mooreandrew58 posted...
Yellow posted...MacrossSpecial posted...America is feeling impotent about fixing our real problems so we had to make up some easier problems to argue about. I'll agree with this. The manchildren on my Facebook are the ones mostly bothered by this, everyone else seems to be talking about the human suffering happening all over the world. --- ...Dude, you're a ****ing douche. Get off my god damn internets. - RX7Infinitilll ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Playsaver 10/10/17 4:11:09 PM #39: |
I think it is Mr. Trump's reaction to the kneeling, during the National Anthem, is what is most telling about Mr. Trump. He is taking it way more personally then any one I've ever seen. He is taking as disloyalty or protest of the Office of the President or more likely as disloyalty or protest of Mr. Trump.
Given how our country was made and set up when we stand for the National Anthem we are showing respect for all our citizens that makes our country what it is. We are a country that was made by the people for the people first and foremost. The rules and codes of conduct, for the national anthem and our flag were created to help the people of our country to know how to show respect for the people of our country, respect for all the people we elected to represent us to help run the country, to show respect for our country and what it stands for, and to show respect for those that fought and at times died for our country and its people. It was not made so the people could show respect and loyalty to just Mr. Trump. For Mr. Trump it seems at times he believes is first and foremost about him. As for the kneeling for the national anthem in protest, I don't consider that to be all the disrespectful. These people, that are protesting, are still acknowledging the anthem is being played. Considering how difficult it can be to take a knee (Just getting down there and back up can be very difficult.) they aren't taking the easy way out by just sitting there to protest. It seems to me the protesters still made some effort for some respect of the anthem. What annoys me is that I saw some people in interviews on tv complain about the kneeling during the anthem when they are on screen wearing an American flag as cape or in some other manner. Wearing an American flag in such a manner is against the rules and codes of how our flag is to be displayed and treated if your being respectful of our flag and country. I understand they are trying to support and love our country by doing that, but it is very disrespectful. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Duck-I-Says 10/10/17 4:18:41 PM #40: |
Kneeling is a sign of submission. America is a proud country of equals that submits to no one. People are angry that people are showing submission to an idol.
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OhhhJa 10/10/17 4:21:50 PM #41: |
Well, it's official. The players have to stand
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RCtheWSBC 10/10/17 4:25:00 PM #42: |
OhhhJa posted...
Well, it's official. The players have to stand Players' union hasn't responded yet. We'll see what's really up. --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 10/10/17 4:32:52 PM #43: |
RCtheWSBC posted...
OhhhJa posted...Well, it's official. The players have to stand Ratings being down effects all of them. I don't see them coming to a different consensus but we'll see ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ogurisama 10/10/17 4:37:48 PM #44: |
It is to distract everyone while trump prepares for war against china and north korea
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SeahorseCpt89 10/10/17 4:42:20 PM #45: |
Ogurisama posted...
It is to distract everyone while trump prepares for war against china and north korea I thought China said they wouldn't help Korea in this little conflict? --- Reminder: you have the right to an opinion, but you don't have the right to not be ridiculed for your opinion. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 10/10/17 4:53:58 PM #46: |
OhhhJa posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...OhhhJa posted...Well, it's official. The players have to stand Ratings were down long before this ever became an issue. SeahorseCpt89 posted... I thought China said they wouldn't help Korea in this little conflict? Only if NK attacks first. If someone else attacks NK, China has said they will honour the alliance. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GastroFan 10/10/17 4:55:57 PM #47: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
The news and our president are using the kneeling, which isn't a disrespecting jab at the military or veterans but actually a call to end racial injustice, as another dividing line in order to further distract us. They do not want us standing, or kneeling, together since a unified populace is the last thing a government seeking to hold us in a state of total control wants. As a former servicemember, I have to agree with the statement above. When I served, I swore my loyalty to the Constitution; not to the flag or the President, no matter what race, party, etc. they were at the time. Someone once wrote, to paraphrase: The Flag is the last refuge of rogues and scoundrels; in 45's case, it's absolutely true since he's never served and has constantly wrapped himself in it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 10/10/17 5:00:00 PM #48: |
darkknight109 posted...
Ratings were down long before this ever became an issue. Are you denying the plummet in ratings after this? Do you watch sports and listen to sports analysts? It's happening ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 10/10/17 5:03:31 PM #49: |
OhhhJa posted...
Do you watch sports and listen to sports analysts? This might give you a hint: darkknight109 posted... I think this is the first time I've responded in a topic about the NFL, given that I don't follow the game. EDIT: I do follow hockey, so I get some tangential news about ratings (which, FWIW, are down across the board - hockey is suffering too, and there's no anthem controversy there). --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BTB 10/10/17 5:08:02 PM #50: |
They're kneeling because they hate our freedoms, or some other faux-patriotic, jingoistic horseshit.
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