Board 8 > Jeff Zero & Leonhart in Different Houses: The Odyssey Continues [JZLF]

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GranzonEx
11/17/17 6:56:24 PM
#301:


Obviously he needs to watch Eyeshield 21(football) and Baby Steps(tennis) before watching that volleyball crap

Watch Prince of Tennis if you want DBZ x tennis

BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Honestly should start sports anime with Baby Steps. Main dude and girl have a very nice relationship.

BK understands
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Mobilezoid
11/17/17 7:08:13 PM
#302:


This might be better suited for the anime topic but since the people here already know my situation I'll ask here. Is there a better website/service than Crunchyroll that I should be looking into? I have Netflix already but their anime selection seems limited and occasionally iffy in terms of translations.
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LeonhartFour
11/17/17 7:10:04 PM
#303:


If you only want to watch subs, Crunchyroll is probably the best there is. Funimation is great, too, but they mostly specialize in dubs. They have subs, too, but I'm pretty sure anything they have is probably also on Crunchyroll.
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xp1337
11/17/17 7:10:53 PM
#304:


I'm a bad person to ask this but I think Crunchyroll is the best free option. IIRC Hulu has a few they don't have, or did, once.

Then there's stuff like Funimation where you'd be subscribing to them directly.
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GranzonEx
11/17/17 7:12:13 PM
#305:


Gonna have to summon the streaming specialist

@WhiteLens
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Mobilezoid
11/17/17 7:12:53 PM
#306:


xp1337 posted...
Crunchyroll is the best free option

Wait I thought I'd have to pay for it. Man, maybe I should do more than five minutes of research on my own before bothering anyone >_>

Hearing about other options to look into is good too though
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LeonhartFour
11/17/17 7:13:50 PM
#307:


xp1337 posted...
Then there's stuff like Funimation where you'd be subscribing to them directly.


Eh, you only have to subscribe for dubs. The subs are free.

Mobilezoid posted...
Wait I thought I'd have to pay for it. Man, maybe I should do more than five minutes of research on my own before bothering anyone >_>

Hearing about other options to look into is good too though


Well, if you don't pay, you get bombarded with ads, so I pay for it because it doesn't cost much to get rid of the hassle.
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MariaTaylor
11/17/17 7:13:51 PM
#308:


crunchyroll is free and great, has a huge selection
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Mac Arrowny
11/17/17 7:16:07 PM
#309:


Netflix is pretty good for anime translations. Their Little Witch Academia work is great, for example.
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Mobilezoid
11/17/17 7:19:00 PM
#310:


Mac Arrowny posted...
Netflix is pretty good for anime translations. Their Little Witch Academia work is great, for example.

But I literally found a Polygon article calling the LWA Netflix translation, quote, "shit"

anime is confusing
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MariaTaylor
11/17/17 7:20:56 PM
#311:


there's like at least three different ways to approach a translation project and there's people who prefer each approach over the others. with many people being opinionated assholes it's no surprise that something will often be praised by 1/3 of fans and called shit by the other 2/3 in almost every case.
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LeonhartFour
11/17/17 7:24:32 PM
#312:


also I'm pretty sure you have to be subscribed to Crunchyroll if you want to read any of their manga but that may not appeal to you so whatever

I don't know what the difference is between a good translation and a bad translation when it comes to anime because I don't know Japanese, so maybe I've watched a bunch of bad translations, but as long as I can follow what's going on and it isn't fraught with grammatical/spelling errors, I'm fine with it.
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Mac Arrowny
11/17/17 7:26:07 PM
#313:


Mobilezoid posted...
Mac Arrowny posted...
Netflix is pretty good for anime translations. Their Little Witch Academia work is great, for example.

But I literally found a Polygon article calling the LWA Netflix translation, quote, "shit"

anime is confusing


*googles article*

They're literally just quoting a random reddit user...
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Team Rocket Elite
11/17/17 7:28:21 PM
#314:


There are some translations that are objectively bad like translating a line to mean the exact opposite of what the character said or adding factual errors like translating "20 years ago" as "25 years ago".
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MariaTaylor
11/17/17 7:28:43 PM
#315:


btw robazoid this is already a better anime topic than the actual anime topic just based on the last 50 posts or so....
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Mobilezoid
11/17/17 7:31:15 PM
#316:


LeonhartFour posted...
I don't know what the difference is between a good translation and a bad translation when it comes to anime because I don't know Japanese

I'm more concerned about translation quality lately because I played this VN called If My Heart Had Wings. I read people saying the translation in one route was extra bad and I was like, whatever, the first route I went through was fine and I can handle some extra typos. Then I only got ten minutes into that second route before I legitimately had no idea what was going on. Now I'm trying to find optimal translations out of paranoia, I guess.
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LeonhartFour
11/17/17 7:32:26 PM
#317:


if you're playing VNs you're dealing with fan translations a lot of the time and those are a big roll of the dice

if you're watching on an anime provider you don't really need to worry about that sort of stuff most of the time
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Mobilezoid
11/17/17 7:36:03 PM
#318:


Mac Arrowny posted...
*googles article*

They're literally just quoting a random reddit user...

And who am I to question the wisdom of random Reddit users?!?

Seriously though, yeah, I might've been too presumptuous about LWA on Netflix. Maybe I'll look back on that soon

LeonhartFour posted...
if you're playing VNs you're dealing with fan translations a lot of the time and those are a big roll of the dice

if you're watching on an anime provider you don't really need to worry about that sort of stuff most of the time

This is likely true too. I shouldn't worry so much
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GranzonEx
11/17/17 7:41:19 PM
#319:


The only things that bug me about translations lately have to do with sub timing ruining scenes or the way they use honorifics and structure of a Japanese name (the structure of it bothers me because I clearly hear them say Last/First instead of the western First/Last)

Actual quality of translations have been good these days. Yea sometimes a show will have low priority and the translator might just google translate things but those are rare and you're unlikely to run into them since you're looking for the popular hits of yesteryears.
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WhiteLens
11/17/17 7:43:13 PM
#320:


GranzonEx posted...
Gonna have to summon the streaming specialist

Hey man, just because I sometimes stream Mobius doesn't mean-

Oh, you mean for anime....it's already been answered in this topic.

But yes, unless you want to dip into illegal streaming sites (which I do not endorse in any way), Crunchyroll is the best bet anime streaming.
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Mobilezoid
11/17/17 7:46:47 PM
#321:


WhiteLens posted...
But yes, unless you want to dip into illegal streaming sites

I don't have the internet savvy to do this even if I wanted to! Thanks for the confirmation about Crunchyroll too.
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WhiteLens
11/17/17 8:03:21 PM
#322:


Uh, I would say that a lot of people on the internet who watch anime, watch them through those kind of sites. Crunchyroll started out as one of those illegal streaming sites and then gradually became a legitimate site. I know I used Crunchyroll for that reason way WAY back then.

I remember that it was these 2 anime that were the very first 2 legit ones to get added to the site.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/the-tower-of-druaga-the-aegis-of-uruk-
http://www.crunchyroll.com/blassreiter

In the meantime, I found videos for the cutscenes of the FFXIII event in Mobius for anyone that wants to see them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu7TQry-kzI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOZ-ACsZahk


You can just stop the video whenever you see something like "Lightning Resurrection, Part 1/2 Complete" because all the guy does afterwards is show off his completion of the map.
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MariaTaylor
11/17/17 8:19:20 PM
#323:


GranzonEx posted...
(the structure of it bothers me because I clearly hear them say Last/First instead of the western First/Last)


this one bugs me so much too. I think I'm just neurotic.
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GranzonEx
11/17/17 8:20:21 PM
#324:


WhiteLens posted...
In the meantime, I found videos for the cutscenes of the FFXIII event in Mobius for anyone that wants to see them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu7TQry-kzI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOZ-ACsZahk


You can just stop the video whenever you see something like "Lightning Resurrection, Part 1/2 Complete" because all the guy does afterwards is show off his completion of the map.

this guy is Hope with Cloud's body and has Hestia as a fairy
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WhiteLens
11/17/17 8:27:25 PM
#325:


I actually got the Hope job card, so when I was running that event, my guy looked like an overgrown Hope. It was very fitting to say the least.
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GranzonEx
11/17/17 8:46:13 PM
#326:


MariaTaylor posted...
GranzonEx posted...
(the structure of it bothers me because I clearly hear them say Last/First instead of the western First/Last)


this one bugs me so much too. I think I'm just neurotic.

I too suffer from this affliction

WhiteLens posted...
I actually got the Hope job card, so when I was running that event, my guy looked like an overgrown Hope. It was very fitting to say the least.

Also appropriate would be playing as Cloud (assuming there's a Cloud card) and playing this in Japanese so Cloud (Sakurai Takahiro aka Oshino Meme) is talking to Lightning (Sakamoto Maaya aka Aeris aka Oshino Shinobu)
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dowolf
11/17/17 8:55:21 PM
#327:


Netflix translations are generally fine. Not great, but fine. People judging translations on Reddit are, uh... Not a good source, at the very least.

Daisuki's subs are pretty trash, though.
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pyresword
11/17/17 9:06:54 PM
#328:


Ok so this is pretty late but Your Lie in April post time

Your Lie in April spoilers: I guess first I'll clarify that I still ended up giving Your Lie in April a 6 or a 7 on MAL, so it's not like I hated it. It has some good things, but I also had some pretty significant problems with it that prevented it from being better than it was.

Anyways, my main problem is likely the way they handled the ending. The thing about character deaths for me is that the death itself rarely as much of an effect on me. (unless it is death by heroic sacrifice or something) To me the appeal of these plotlines is in seeing how the people who are still alive react to this turn of events, and in Your Lie in April we don't really get much of that. There's the letter at the end, and I guess maybe you could argue some of their conversations in the episodes leading up to that take on a similar tone, but ultimately I just thought this aspect wasn't there in a significant manner. And as a result having her die never came across to me as more than a halfhearted attempt to grab my heartstrings.

Other things that probably affected my opinion just as much but require less words to explain:

--The whole thing with Kousei's mom just felt too...edgy, I guess. (This isn't really a word I like using but I don't know what else to say)

--There was too much redundant monologuing during performances imo.


Also since I spent this long talking about Your Lie in April I feel obligated to give a general recommendation for Tari Tari which doesn't get nearly as much credit as I think it deserves. It shares some similar plot points to parts of Your Lie in April but is I think much more compelling.
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pyresword
11/17/17 9:12:58 PM
#329:


Although I will say Hikaru Nara might actually be my favorite anime OP, and if it's not then it's 100% in my top 5.
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WhiteLens
11/17/17 9:19:30 PM
#330:


GranzonEx posted...
Also appropriate would be playing as Cloud (assuming there's a Cloud card) and playing this in Japanese so Cloud (Sakurai Takahiro aka Oshino Meme) is talking to Lightning (Sakamoto Maaya aka Aeris aka Oshino Shinobu)

Doesn't work like that. Even if you can play as Cloud in battles, the cutscenes are gonna revert to whoever is suppose to be in them.
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LeonhartFour
11/17/17 9:55:50 PM
#331:


Reversing the first and last names doesn't bother me at all.

And yeah, I mostly liked YLIA, but the flaws stand out more than its strong points when I think back on it.

pyresword posted...
Although I will say Hikaru Nara might actually be my favorite anime OP, and if it's not then it's 100% in my top 5.


Yeah, it's definitely a top tier OP.
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Mobilezoid
11/17/17 11:25:39 PM
#332:


pyresword posted...
Anyways, my main problem is likely the way they handled the ending

I can see where you're coming from with this, more of an epilogue in YLiA would've been nice. I'm just such a sucker for those kinds of stories that I attach more weight to the death itself I guess

pyresword posted...
--There was too much redundant monologuing during performances imo.

Yeah I noticed this too, but it wasn't enough to bother me. Honestly, the only kind of anime I don't think I could watch are the DBZ types where entire episodes are spent charging one attack. YLiA got redundant at times but it still kept a steady pace!

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Speaking of other animes, I made a list of recommendations and checked them against availability on crunchyroll and funimation. Barring some unforeseen problems with figuring out those sites, here's the four I'll likely watch next

-Parasyte (my brother has been telling me to watch this for years so I may as well)
-Little Witch Academia (gotta judge that Netflix translation for myself!)
-Spice and Wolf (seems neat, plus I like a VN the writer also made)
-Toradora (sounded good from what little I read about the plot, plus Leon also watched it so I can comment on it more than the others here)

Still, I've got everything else people specifically recommended written down and hopefully I'll move through them all eventually. Thanks again for all the opinions! I'll likely post overall anime rankings as I finish things

One final note from looking through those anime lists on those sites, man, some animes have awesome titles. I have no idea if they're any good or not but I kept going "Restaurant to Another World? What are you about?" I feel like I could go a long time just watching interesting looking ones at random
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LeonhartFour
11/17/17 11:31:37 PM
#333:


I like how they could spend an entire episode on Kousei playing a 5 minute piano piece.

Toradora is basically the launching pad for getting me into anime, so I highly recommend it. Ryuji is actually my anime counterpart, not whoever that guy is from My Love Story. A friend of mine told me to watch it because she thought Ryuji reminded her so much of me, and I can't totally refute that claim.
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LeonhartFour
11/17/17 11:37:21 PM
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GranzonEx
11/17/17 11:39:43 PM
#335:


Mobilezoid posted...
One final note from looking through those anime lists on those sites, man, some animes have awesome titles. I have no idea if they're any good or not but I kept going "Restaurant to Another World? What are you about?" I feel like I could go a long time just watching interesting looking ones at random

Here's an idea of how much anime comes out in a season

This is Fall 2017
https://myanimelist.net/anime/season

This is Summer 2017
https://myanimelist.net/anime/season/2017/summer

So yea you can literally point at any anime from that list, watch an episode or two, then decide if you want to continue or drop it and never run out of things to watch even if you drop 10 or 20 shows a season
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LeonhartFour
11/18/17 12:31:57 AM
#336:


In Yu Yu Hakusho, fox bandit Kurama wins by doing absolutely nothing. Kuwabara wins at rock, paper, scissors. Yusuke passes his final test. Botan fails at directions. Kuwabara disappears into THE CAPE OF NO RETURN. Toguro vouches for the Masked Fighter's identity as Genkai returns to fight the guy with the unnecessarily long name.
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11/18/17 12:45:04 AM
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LeonhartFour
11/18/17 12:53:22 AM
#338:


yeah that guy

what a lame-o

I'd probably only need to know his name for one more episode anyway
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LeonhartFour
11/18/17 1:00:13 AM
#339:


Now Playing: Toradora - Orange
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alnmy55YQ70


since we were discussing Toradora and good OPs and EDs earlier

Toradora might be in contention for the best set of OPs and EDs I've seen if Vanilla Salt didn't exist. The rest are excellent though.

It's also perhaps the only anime where I'd rather watch the subs over the dub but it's entirely because Ryuji's Japanese VA is perfect and his English VA is not so great. The VA performances for just about all the other major characters are good (and you can find most of them in Persona 4 or 5, to boot!).
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Robazoid
11/18/17 6:41:04 AM
#340:


I just finished the ninth episode of Little Witch Academia! This show is great but in an entirely different way than Your Lie in April was great so I think starting with it was a good choice. Akko and Sucy are the best.

I'm really regretting not starting this two weeks ago like I almost did before that erroneous Polygon article threw me off. I could've saved Akko from elimination in the Anime/VN save-my!
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Mac Arrowny
11/18/17 12:03:32 PM
#341:


Constanze #1
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LeonhartFour
11/18/17 6:31:58 PM
#342:


Now Playing: Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Unfounded Revenge/Smashing Song of Praise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2xuX8TmjjU


Not sure why I've been on a Brawl music kick the last few days, but this might be one of the few Mother things I like.
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LeonhartFour
11/18/17 9:09:12 PM
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LeonhartFour
11/18/17 9:36:07 PM
#344:


we know exactly what LSU is going to do every play and we can't stop it

also we've had so many injuries this year it's ridiculous
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LeonhartFour
11/18/17 10:28:18 PM
#345:


thanks Cortana for giving me a popup message telling me Tennessee lost today

what a way to kick a guy when he's down
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LeonhartFour
11/18/17 10:52:31 PM
#346:


In Yu Yu Hakusho, trash talking Genkai is the best. Kuwabara gets humiliated again. The old man is a clown. Apparently, YYH also invented the X-Ray attack that Mortal Kombat uses now as we get to see X-Rays of Genkai breaking this dude's bones. I also sure hope they're not foreshadowing what I fear they're foreshadowing. Whew, made it through 50 episodes and we're almost at the finals...but at the same time, I'm still not even halfway done.
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LeonhartFour
11/19/17 1:00:54 AM
#347:


Still haven't decided what other anime I want to watch. I think I'm in a weird mood where I can't really figure out what I'm up for right now.

Maybe I should give that Count of Monte Cristo anime a try.

Or maybe I should rewatch something.
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LeonhartFour
11/19/17 1:14:00 AM
#348:


also I like how no matter what show you click on at Funimation, their "Fans of this show also watched" list without fail includes DBZ and One Piece
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LordoftheMorons
11/19/17 1:33:13 AM
#349:


Fate/Zero!

As for other suggestions, hmm.... maybe Welcome to the NHK? It's kinda heavy but it's pretty good.
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LeonhartFour
11/19/17 1:39:10 AM
#350:


maybe I should watch Fate/Zero so I can understand what the heck voltch is talking about in SMFFFC half the time

It's also one of the rare dubs on Crunchyroll so that's nice

what's this Welcome to the NHK about?

let's see

Sato is a tangle of anxieties and conspiracy theories, believing that the nefarious N-H-K wants to turn societys misfits into a mob of hopeless recluses. Mysterious Misaki might be able to help Sato overcome his phobiasif she can pull him out of his existential foxhole and get him to face the world.

can't quite put my finger on it but I feel like I've watched something similar to this before

not sure what I'm thinking of though; my mind's in a fog tonight for some reason

maybe I'm thinking of Okabe
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