Board 8 > Fire Emblem Heroes Discussion Topic Part 12: Book 2

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Great idea lets give hector forblaze from his good pal athos
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last-day-of-banner luck strikes again, this time with Nephenee. +def -res, which seems decent. despite the complaints, i actually like her voice, at least in the status screen. quite amusing there. in battle not so great but whatever.

oh wait, this wasn't even the last day, whoops. i guess technically i should have waited until tomorrow cause i only went in with 14 orbs, but hey it worked out.
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Got bored. Started new project.



+Def/-Spd. Had a bunch of Sheenas lying around and I've liked the character for a while. Sacked my only Hector (in my defense he was -Atk) and last Subaki (after 5-starring for the Quick Riposte 3). Still have...a lot...of skills to upgrade. Wish me luck on the SP grind and green orb draws!
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oh man i'm really not paying attention. thought TT and double sp/exp were going for one more day. lost another 1k easy feathers from rank 51,000 <_<.
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That has to be Nephenee's best bane. With Fury, you're looking at 30+ damage bonfires.

Nice Sheena. Which slaying axe upgrade will you use? Defense or resistance I assume
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Wait you can upgrade Slaying weapons? I only thought you could upgrade Killer->Slaying. Oh damn.

*checks*

Probably Defense. Felicia handles the High Res niche well enough already. Sheena has enough Res that she can be used to tank mages in a pinch, but for the most part I'd like her to be an immovable wall against physical opponents. More Def also equals more Ignis damage. If it turns out I need the extra Res I can just switch upgrades though.
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Yeah, defense makes sense to me too. Slaying weapon upgrades are pretty nice. I'm planning to give my Lukas the defense upgrade next. That dude is going to be a great physical wall.
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I gave my Amelia the extra Mt. I probably would've gone with something else, but mine's -Atk, so she didn't put holes in things quite like she's supposed to.
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I finally did it. Got rank 4815 in TT. There are a bunch of people who say they have more feathers than they know what to do with, but i need all the feathers i can get because there are sooo many projects i want to work on. This was the best TT for me to go all out since the Braves are already busted to begin with, and the boosts just make it so BIke has a high probability of soloing maps.

I only have enough Olivias to make a +6, thought i had more because i had been getting a bunch, so will need to use Fjorm. I could use Donnel, but Fjorm should be a recurring bonus character, so i want to focus on her now.

Im now thinking of putting Water Blessing on BRoy. He would appreciate the Spd boost, and i think Hector doesnt really need either of the boosts since he can tank Rein with DD.
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I have run into a uniquely stupid problem. My Felicia's HP is so artificially jacked up (Summoner support, Silver Dagger++, +10 merges...) that she actually reached an HP value equal to Dorcas's, meaning she doesn't get the benefit of his Infantry Pulse. I've stuck an HP+ seal on Dorcas but that's a bandaid solution. Maybe I can hope to get another Dorcas and merge...?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/7hsabe/calling_all_redditors_the_enemy_phase_music_blows/

Apologies if this is considered point whoring, but it would be appreciated it people here could upvote this (and hopefully follow the instructions) so it gets more visibility. I reeeeeeeeeally want this feature implemented. The enemy phase music is garbage.
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I submitted that feedback. That switch always annoyed me.

You know, Dorcas is still on a banner. You can make it happen. HP seal on him is pretty suboptimal
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Im torn on Fury vs TA on Nowi. She has been rolling with TA2 and its worked pretty great, but she did lose to being attacked by two reds, one being Ayra, in AA, and i felt stupid for not playing things more safe. If she runs Fury, she could go with Spd boost from forging since shes +Spd, but i feel like she needs TA to be protected against Falchion, and we know itll get upgraded at some point.
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Fury and the +Spd forge probably synergize best with the speed boon.I'm not sure you need Nowi to fulfill a Falchion countering role unless you are running a full dragon team. Infantry swords tend to be sitting ducks.
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I do want to build a dragon team. It's more viable than ever. The power boost from Dark Aura is very tempting, but Delthea, Ninian, and Nowi would be too many blues, so it would need to be Fae/Nowi/Ninian/ATiki.
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I'm considering building a Lon'qu, but its hard to work up the motivation for that when he's inferior to Ayra and Mia in every way. Power creep hurts
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Lon'qu was power creeped from the start, though. at least someone like Hana can come close with the weapon forging (to Mia that is. Ayra's on another level).
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wait what the fuck, divine Tyrfing doesn't protect against staffs? i just had my Sigurd killed by an Axura-danced Priscilla and had to use a light's blessing because the rest of my team were blues that couldn't beat Axura.
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I guess they don't have staff damage as a magic type.
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I consider it a feature

Down with horses
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Yeah, Ayra is beyond stupid in a truly reprehensible way. She's become the character I least want to see in Arena runs.
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What makes Ayra so good? I pulled one but I haven't done anything with her since getting her to 40.
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If she doubles you you're probably dead because of Reginal Astra + her sword's passive

And her speed is super high so she's probably doubling you

That being said she doesn't have great res, only has 2 move, and probably isn't running Distant Counter so I can usually play around her without a ton of effort. She's much less oppressive than Bowlyn or Reinhardt-- I guess it's harder to make a specialized Ayra counter than one for the horses though if that's what you're doing to handle them.
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Lopen posted...

That being said she doesn't have great res, only has 2 move, and probably isn't running Distant Counter so I can usually play around her without a ton of effort.

This is how I feel too. I can see her being monstrous if controlled by a human but the AI is so bad that infantry without DC or CC are usually sitting ducks.
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Yeah, it's way easier to counter the horses and because they turn up so often, it makes sense to do so. When Ayra shows up so much less frequently, it doesn't make sense to have a counter (whatever that would look like) and as a result she's more likely to wreck face.
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Kenri posted...

What makes Ayra so good? I pulled one but I haven't done anything with her since getting her to 40.

Has an inflated Base Stat Total, when compared to other units of her type. Has pretty good Attack and one of the highest Speed in the game. Comes with a weapon that gives a Passive Speed+3 (so out of the box, she has the highest base speed in the game before abilities/seals/refining comes into play). Comes with Swift Sparrow and Desperation which are perfect for her archetype. Has a special that scales off of Speed (which is unique and non-inheritable). Also gains +1 to special gauge when attacking anyone with less Speed than her, which is almost always.

So essentially she's an offensive nightmare...and is somehow pretty good at tanking physical attacks as well. Her defense is really high for a Myrmidon archetype and her high Speed ensures she will almost never get doubled. Ayra ALMOST makes every other infantry red sword in the game irrelevant when compared to her. The only reason she doesn't is because Ike and Ryoma have Distant Counter.
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In response to what was posted while I was typing - honestly I think the age of horses is drawing to a close. They're probably still the best move type in the game but the developers have actually done a good job at repeatedly releasing counters to them. I prefer seeing them over someone like Ayra in most cases. My team doesn't have any magic damage though, so that's a big part of it!
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Ayra counter would be anything with Swordbreaker, a particularly tanky blue (of units I use regularly Ephraim and Valter with Defense buffs or a fortress square can often survive her even getting doubled), or a reasonably hard hitting ranged unit to soften her so you can one shot her with any second attack. (Even if she has Vantage, getting hit once by her is fine)

Basically as long as you don't eat two attacks from her she's pretty manageable. You should avoid baiting her like you would with a lot of troublesome units unless you have a really tanky blue because she'll kill you.
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I've considered building Hana before but I don't think it is worth the 40k feathers. Ayra, Athena, Ryoma, and Eirika fulfill all my infantry sword needs. Adult Tiki is probably a better +10 red project. We don't get many dragons and is less likely to become powercreeped than an infantry sword.

Ephraim's lance is my first divine dew upgrade. It's pretty nice seeing him double ranged units he couldn't previously kill
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Yeah I may +10 Adult Tiki at some point

Just a standard 5* one with a good nature (+ATK/-SPD and +DEF/-SPD both seem mighty-- I've got +ATK/-SPD) is pretty strong though
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i'm thinking about maxing out Corrin now. the one dragon that doesn't feel like a complete waste of time without an extra Bike. and also the one i have the most copies of (10 Corrins, 6 Tikis, 3 Nowis, 2 Faes), while being the correct color to go with Hector/BK in arena to stay in tier 20.
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I've got a +Def -Spd one that I'll invest in at some point. If I got an extra Brave Ike, I'm pretty sure I would give him to her.

Fae and Nowi are still good without steady breath. Adult Tiki's other A skills aren't nearly as good.
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Brave Ike is nice but not at all necessary for her to be strong

Quick Riposte is all you need
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welp. 700 flags left and no more predicted bonus hours. actually i guess that's not too bad, i'm pretty safely top 5k (~3200 now) and get to save flags for the finals. though i think i could have gotten top 1k this round if there was a bonus hour now and one more later.
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I've been really bad with flag management. Being on Tharja's team means I have to be more attentive, not less. Didn't hurt me a ton R1 still got top 10k but don't think I will this time. Going to head into the final with over 1000 stocked flags.
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Just a heads-up on a few weapons that got Weapon Refinery upgrades that have vastly changed how they work. Setsuna's Assassin Bow, instead of having a built-in dagger breaker, gets upgraded to a Guard Bow+, which has a built-in Distant Defense 3, and can then be further upgraded to have a bonus ability like +2 Speed or +3 Resistance or whatever. I really wish I'd pulled a Halloween Jakob now that I know about this. Can you imagine putting this bow on him with the Distant Defense 3 Seal? If you had a Celica or Rhajat to feed a neutral Jakob a third DD3, you'd push his Defense and Resistance against archers and mages to 51 and 50, respectively.

Another weapon with new stats is Berkut's Lance. It used to add +4 to Resistance when attacked, but that number's been bumped up to 7. Then you can add 4 more to it with a second upgrade. The main use here is if you've given a Distant Counter to one of your lancers, you could potentially bump their Resistance up by 11 with this thing. My initial thought for this is Effie. Put Distant Counter, Wary Fighter, and a +11 Res Berkut's Lance on, say, a +Atk -Spd version. She won't get doubled until low health, and will hit everything with an HP/Atk/Def/Res stat spread of 55/57/33/34.
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Looks like I'm finally going to touch rank 20. Got a 4942 point no death run with Serra Matthew Ephraim Tharja. Currently rank 1500ish.

Take back all the bitterness I have over Wrathful Staff being less useful, too. Hitting like a truck and the opponent not being able to hit back solves so many problems. Like the new dragon menace. Or distant counter. Or all sorts of things.
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Wrathful staff is more useful than ever after the update with the buffs healers got. Dazzling/Wrathful staff combination is really strong. Makes me almost wish I spent some orbs on colorless during the legendary banner.
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Man I really wanted Shiro, but the last 6 or so summoning sessions haven't had any blue orbs at all. So now instead I have that nerd Siegbert and just now I pulled Soleil too, who's cool I guess.
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I want Siegbert, but for once, the female is there to cockblock, so if I do pull, I'll go for Shiro and wait for Siegbert to return on another banner.
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im tempted to dump my orbs on bert but ive already pulled soleil so i'll probably be disappointed

i mostly want him for his attack tactic but i can also see this coming out as a sacred seal down the line too so..dunno
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Saving up for Christmas banner
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barreldragon88 posted...

I want Siegbert, but for once, the female is there to cockblock, so if I do pull, I'll go for Shiro and wait for Siegbert to return on another banner.

The other red is a 38 atk 35 spd firesweep sword. That's a pretty good consolation. Siegbert can be turned into Brave Roy essentially if you have still have an atk bane Ike.

I'm waiting to see what comes out of the end of year banners. We should get a Christmas one and another legendary hero banner
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Lopen posted...

Looks like I'm finally going to touch rank 20. Got a 4942 point no death run with Serra Matthew Ephraim Tharja. Currently rank 1500ish.

Take back all the bitterness I have over Wrathful Staff being less useful, too. Hitting like a truck and the opponent not being able to hit back solves so many problems. Like the new dragon menace. Or distant counter. Or all sorts of things.

Congrats! And yeah Wrathful/Dazzle combo is legit right now. It's a shame I never got a Genny.
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Yankees posted...

barreldragon88 posted...

I want Siegbert, but for once, the female is there to cockblock, so if I do pull, I'll go for Shiro and wait for Siegbert to return on another banner.

The other red is a 38 atk 35 spd firesweep sword. That's a pretty good consolation. Siegbert can be turned into Brave Roy essentially if you have still have an atk bane Ike.

I'm waiting to see what comes out of the end of year banners. We should get a Christmas one and another legendary hero banner

Not saying Soleil isn't good, but like you said, swords are sitting ducks without DC, and I have solid sword options already. Alfonse is actually not too shabby as he can tank green physicals and also go up against swords with Swordbreaker. I'd rather use my orbs for something I actually need or can fulfill a unique niche.
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@Yankees, do you mind switching your lead to colorless?
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In case everyone forgot christmas robin M and tharja were datamined like 10 months ago

Considering most of the seasonal units have been awakening and fates i think its fairly plausible those are 2 of the 4 units for the banner
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I've switched to Innes.

I doubt they'd have switched from Tharja and M Robin. Neither of them have appeared yet on a seasonal banner, and considering those are all about Fates and Awakening, I think it is time.
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Thanks.

Wow,10 months ago?? Thats impressive they found that information that far in advance, and IS does plan pretty far in advance, even for a mobile game.
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it was supposed to be for 2016 if the game had come out a few months earlier. it was data they just left in the game files, and once they saw people could find that stuff, stopped leaving info there to be found.
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