Board 8 > Conservative politics topic 3: Victory in Italy!

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Jakyl25 posted...

Will not sign

Of course you won't. You hate rights and freedom.
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I missed where it was in the bill of rights the right to use Twitter.
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I love having the right and freedom to not sign that petition
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In fairness, If you're a rapist; You gotta go. Punishment or Gunishment, No ifs, ands or buts about it.

Also, We're more likely to stab over here.
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LOL at that chart.

First off, good job to America for doing better on gun violence than some of the least developed countries in the world.

A simple google search shows how BS some of the most obviously fake stuff in there is.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kennesaw-gun-law/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jun/24/blog-posting/social-media-post-says-uk-has-far-higher-violent-c/

Do better.
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Also, taking all of those statistics at face value, are you advocating doing away with the police since normal citizens are apparently more effective?
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Also, obviously, guns are not used 80x more often for "self defense"

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/16194/are-guns-in-the-usa-used-80-times-more-often-to-protect-life-than-to-take-it
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Icehawk posted...

Do better.

He really can't, though.
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Vlado posted...

That's a funny pic about Alex Jones and gay frogs. Is that link and zelda?

Also nice fake news thing above that
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Icehawk posted...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kennesaw-gun-law/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jun/24/blog-posting/social-media-post-says-uk-has-far-higher-violent-c/

lmfao, you seriously go to those democrat-controlled sites. Wow, they push for gun ban, SO surprised!

Globalists want to strip people of all freedom, so they will push propaganda in that direction. That does not change the facts listed in the infographic.

Meanwhile, surprise surprise, when Obama was doing it, facebook were all A-OK with user data mining:

They came to office in the days following election recruiting & were very candid that they allowed us to do things they wouldnt have allowed someone else to do because they were on our side.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-19/obamas-former-campaign-director-makes-bombshell-facebook-claim-they-were-our-side

Facebook is going down soon.
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Trump takes some cues from Duterte, seeks death penalty for drug dealers:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-19/trump-loses-drug-dealer-vote-death-penalty-will-be-part-white-house-opioid-response

Of course, globalists will do all within their power to not let this happen. They need to continue corrupting people with drugs. Predictably, those arguing with me here will argue against Trump's idea, too. Drug dealers' "rights" are more important to them than the countless innocent lives they take.
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Vlado posted...

Drug dealers' "rights" are more important to them than the countless innocent lives they take

How can you believe in freedom and yet not believe in one's freedom to decide if they want to do drugs or not?

Do you think we should put bartenders to death as well?
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Vlados not even trying to be internally consistent anymore

His brainwashing is really going off the deep end
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Post 311: waaaaaah globalists trying to steal freedoms! Nothing more important than freedoms!

Post 312: drug dealers "righs" lol they shouldn't have the freedom to remain alive.

Freedom is the most important thing to vlado but should be taken away from anyone who likes or thinks things he doesn't. Typical globalist puppet liberal.

Edit: didn't see that therock already called him out lol
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TheRock1525 posted...

Do you think we should put bartenders to death as well?

For a start, are they committing a crime?
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Vlado posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

Do you think we should put bartenders to death as well?

For a start, are they committing a crime?

They were for a while there!
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Vlado posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

Do you think we should put bartenders to death as well?

For a start, are they committing a crime?

During prohibition, yes
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Also, opioid dealers generally aren't breaking the law either, so like... not sure how the law which is created by globalists anyway is relevant.
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Literally you trust a random stupid chart over well researched articles. Snopes and politifact are not partisan. If that is the best you can do, you might as well only stick to anecdotes and not numbers for arguments going forward.
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Also, if the issue is legality, I'd like to argue that abortion is legal in the United States so obviously you should stop condemning it.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Also, if the issue is legality, I'd like to argue that abortion is legal in the United States so obviously you should stop condemning it.

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Vlado posted...

Trump takes some cues from Duterte, seeks death penalty for drug dealers:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-19/trump-loses-drug-dealer-vote-death-penalty-will-be-part-white-house-opioid-response

Of course, globalists will do all within their power to not let this happen. They need to continue corrupting people with drugs. Predictably, those arguing with me here will argue against Trump's idea, too. Drug dealers' "rights" are more important to them than the countless innocent lives they take.

illegal drug possession is a crime so legally the lives of victims of drug dealers' are not innocent
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Vlado, do you think Duterte's policies on drugs have been a success?
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Icehawk posted...

Vlado, do you think Duterte's policies on drugs have been a success?

"Yes because his approval rating is very high"

Edit: please no one quote this post. Posting so I can say I called it when he says this, which he will probably do because he has me on ignore so he won't see that I will have been correct.
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Vlado posted...

Drug dealers' "rights" are more important to them than the countless innocent lives they take.

Incredible slip here, lmao
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Icehawk posted...

Vlado, do you think Duterte's policies on drugs have been a success?

He has professed his admiration for Duterte before
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Icehawk posted...

Vlado, do you think Duterte's policies on drugs have been a success?

To say the least. He is a model leader.
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Trump planning very important protections for doctors with a conscience:
http://fortune.com/2018/01/17/trump-hhs-conscience-objection-rule/
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on what moral basis would a doctor refuse to treat a transgender person

like it doesn't even say "refuse to perform gender reassignment surgery" or whatever, it just says treating them at all
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Pumping men with female hormones and vice versa, for example. That's not surgery.
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"My morals say that i shouldn't ever come into contact with someone icky. I call the police when i see a homeless person and make something up so they are removed from my view. I force all of my servants to wear masks because i dread seeing their icky faces. I complain to the manager of the restaurant when my waiter's hair looks greasy. When i see two men holding hands, i try to start a fight with them. When they get physical, i pull out my concealed gun and shoot them both in the face and claim self - defense. I have a moral imperative to cleanse these foul streets." - an "american" that vlado would approve of, probably
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jul/13/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-says-real-unemployment-rate-african/

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/20/donald-trump/trump-misleadingly-puts-black-youth-unemployment-r/

their actual statements are meaningfully different enough to be different levels of true
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Vlado posted...

Pumping men with female hormones and vice versa, for example. That's not surgery.

I mean it doesn't say "treating people for transgender-related stuff", it just says "treating transgender people"

it makes it sound like it lets doctors refuse to give trans people even totally normal medical treatments

but maybe the article is just poorly phrased and that's not actually what it does
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Vlado posted...

Pumping men with female hormones and vice versa, for example. That's not surgery.

Thats also not how being trans works
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

I mean it doesn't say "treating people for transgender-related stuff", it just says "treating transgender people"

You're wasting time and posts trying to argue over your out-of-context interpretation when we already have the context. Try harder next time.
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I'm not trying anything, I just read the article and that's what it looked like it was saying. If that's not actually what's happening then that article should have been worded better.
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remember that time vlado use to parrot around that that all sources should be judged on their content than who they're from lmao
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CelesMyUserName posted...

remember that time vlado use to parrot around that that all sources should be judged on their content than who they're from lmao

And I gave very clear examples of trash content. :)
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specifically I think I was thrown off by the mention of "different gender identities" here:

moral or religious objections to certain procedures, such as performing abortions and treating transgender Americans or those with different gender identities

because I'm not sure what gender identity that isn't trans would require specific medical procedures
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Oh hey Vlado is cool with doctors letting transgender people die.

I'm totally shocked.
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Just had this memory of an unanswered question pop into my head:

Vlado, could you explain how you think humanity came to be, and how it populated the globe?
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Apparently some poor guy in the UK was sentenced to prison for teaching his dog to do nazi salutes... Orwell didn't even think of this.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/20/youtuber-count-dankula-found-guilty-in-shtposting-case-by-british-court/
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He hasn't been sentenced yet.
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Vlado posted...

Apparently some poor guy in the UK was sentenced to prison for teaching his dog to do nazi salutes... Orwell didn't even think of this.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/20/youtuber-count-dankula-found-guilty-in-shtposting-case-by-british-court/

Breitbart? No.

Heard this yesterday. The 'poor guy' taught the dog to Nazi salute when he said "Sig heil" and "gas the Jews." Poor guy :(
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I'm not surprised you defend this. You are everything you claim you stand against.

Anyway, powerful message from Trump:

I called President Putin of Russia to congratulate him on his election victory (in past, Obama called him also). The Fake News Media is crazed because they wanted me to excoriate him. They are wrong! Getting along with Russia (and others) is a good thing, not a bad thing.......

.....They can help solve problems with North Korea, Syria, Ukraine, ISIS, Iran and even the coming Arms Race. Bush tried to get along, but didnt have the smarts. Obama and Clinton tried, but didnt have the energy or chemistry (remember RESET). PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH!

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Vlado, do you believe Putins election was legitimate?
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(Also saying they can help solve the issues in Ukraine is hilarious)
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It is a pretty powerful example of just how taut those puppet strings are.
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Imagine not knowing how to properly use ellipses.
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