Board 8 > Ace Attorney Topic Part 5: The Pursuit (Spoilers for AA1-6, AAI1-2)

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man Wocky is so bad

and somehow they managed to create an even worse defendant in 6-4
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Stickler really should not be as likable as he is
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LeonhartFour posted...

Stickler really should not be as likable as he is

Stickler is likeable?
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he's hilarious yes

he really shouldn't be but he is
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4-2 trial day 1 complete

it's nice to be back on a brisker pace
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I wish I liked Stickler, but he missed the mark for me in a bad way.

I didn't find AJ's attempts at humourous characters successful at all.
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The one funny Stickler moment I remember is that one time that he's going on about something and it just slowly fades to black to the CROSS EXAMINATION screen

otherwise, he's, I dunno.

Does AJ even have humorous characters besides Stickler and Brushel

I guess Wocky

I'd say Eldoon and Valant are supposed to be funny, too, at least most of the time.
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mike meekins is hilarious
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there's also the Amazing Mr. Hat

I mean I guess Ema is supposed to be the major comic relief here but it goes kind of along with the general AJ theme of "no one is allowed to be happy"
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AA4 is

I'm not even sure what the right word is. Not really "dark," or "bleak," although of the AA games it is the most of those things

but it's just like

the most subdued and muted AA

I actually don't mind it, and I hated the game overall less on my most recent replay, but yeah, it is that.

I think AJ suffers from tonal dissonance more than any other game in the series. I think Takumi is trying to maintain the classic levity of the series, but it doesn't totally mesh with Phoenix being a disillusioned bum and Apollo in general being a cynic. Trucy's really the only AJ character who kind of "fits" the OT mold.
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I didn't feel like AA4 has a tone problem. I think it's just different but it works.

Trucy: I can still remember that moment...You brandished those bloomers on high, and shouted..."Objection!"
Apollo: ...Here's what I want you to do, Trucy. Take that memory, gently lock it away deep in your heart, and never speak of it.

seriously these two are worth the price of admission in AJ
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I've said it before, but the most annoying thing about investigations in AJ is that only one thing activates at a time, so you can go to literally every single place before you get to the right place (as I just did) and have literally nothing happen.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Trucy: I can still remember that moment...You brandished those bloomers on high, and shouted..."Objection!"
Apollo: ...Here's what I want you to do, Trucy. Take that memory, gently lock it away deep in your heart, and never speak of it.

seriously these two are worth the price of admission in AJ

Yeah I hate on a lot of things about AJ but the new core cast is just great. I dunno about Apollo vs Phoenix (though I suspect I line up with Leon, OT Phoenix > Apollo > new Phoenix) but I definitely come down strong on the side of Trucy > Maya. And I really enjoy cranky Ema. Klavier's cool but his lack of plot role is disappointing.
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Grumpy Ema is the best.

And while Trucy is great, I can't put her above Maya. She just hasn't been utilized well enough. 6-2 was a step in the right direction, and maybe now with Apollo gone, she can get more screentime in the future. An Athena/Trucy case would probably be pretty fun.
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4-2 investigation day 2 complete

that moment Eldoon removes the hat is so good
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whoa a dude literally named Will Power won the Indy 500 today
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You know, if Alita shot Meraktis from inside the noodle stand, shouldn't there be a bullet hole in the front of it somewhere? Why didn't anyone notice it? Well, I guess you can chalk it up to AA police being sloppy as usual. They didn't even bother investigating the safe.

also I realized that the two doctors in this case are named Guy and Pal
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Trucy: When I die, it will be by disappearing mysteriously in the middle of a magic act!

huh wonder where she got that idea from
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I think my favorite part of Alita's plan is that she hired Apollo to represent Wocky precisely because she expected him to be utterly incompetent

although I do like that a large chunk of the night of the murder is a blank spot to her because she was unconscious after being strangled so you end up bringing up a lot of details she's unaware of

also Meraktis has to be up near the top of the biggest scumbag victim list
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Total lines by character:

1. Phoenix Wright - 15422
2. Miles Edgeworth - 14764
3. Maya Fey - 4441
4. The Judge - 4310
5. Dick Gumshoe - 4047
6. Kay Faraday - 3370
7. Franziska von Karma - 2314
8. Apollo Justice - 1779
9. Ema Skye - 1495
10. Mia Fey - 1418
11. Shi-Long Lang - 1101
12. Pearl Fey - 1035
13. Justine Courtney - 1016
14. Larry Butz - 1008
15. Raymond Shields - 971
16. Godot - 902
17. Gregory Edgeworth - 649
18. Lotta Hart - 648
19. Tyrell Badd - 593
20. Dahlia Hawthorne - 578
21. Wendy Oldbag - 553
22. Sebastian Debeste - 521
23. Calisto Yew/Shih-na - 489
24. Adrian Andrews - 459
25. Winston Payne - 453
26. Manfred von Karma - 444
27. The Judge's Brother - 421
28. Shelly de Killer - 387
29. Will Powers - 380
30. Simon Keyes - 380
31. Bikini - 351
32. Maggey Byrde - 323
33. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 320
34. Quercus Alba - 303
35. Luke Atmey - 292
36. Damon Gant - 285
37. Ini Miney - 275
38. Angel Starr - 272
39. Ron DeLite - 271
40. Rhoda Teneiro - 268
41. Katherine Hall - 267
42. Blaise Debeste - 265
43. Regina Berry - 261
44. Jake Marshall - 257
45. Jean Armstrong - 251
46. Nicole Swift - 250
47. Lana Skye - 249
48. Victor Kudo - 247
49. Marvin Grossberg - 234
50. Jacques Portsman - 231
51. Frank Sahwit - 219
52. Alita Tiala - 219
53. Patricia Roland - 217
54. Dane Gustavia - 209
55. Horace Knightley - 209
56. Maximillion Galactica - 203
57. Ben & Trilo Quist - 200
58. Penny Nichols - 194
59. Kristoph Gavin - 193
60. Klavier Gavin - 187
61. Mike Meekins - 183
62. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 182
63. Iris - 181
64. Furio Tigre - 176
65. Matt Engarde - 171
66. Sirhan Dogen - 170
67. Cammy Meele - 168
68. Morgan Fey - 165
69. Redd White - 162
70. John Marsh - 153
71. Delicia Scones - 151
72. Colias Palaeno - 150
73. Dee Vasquez - 148
74. Zinc Lablanc - 146
75. Desiree DeLite - 142
76. Trilo Quist - 140
77. Wesley Stickler - 137
78. Cody Hackins - 135
79. Lauren Paups - 130
80. Karin Jenson - 129
81. Olga Orly - 126
82. Guy Eldoon - 117
83. Wocky KItaki - 111
84. Di-Jun Huang - 110
85. Richard Wellington - 107
86. April May - 104
87. Jay Elbird - 102
88. Yanni Yogi - 98
89. Lance Amano - 92
90. Jeff Master - 90
91. Viola Cadaverini - 80
92. Director Hotti/Doctor Hickfield - 76
93. Terry Fawles - 74
94. Plum Kitaki - 73
95. The Bellboy - 72
96. Ernest Amano - 68
97. Benjamin Woodman - 60
98. Sal Manella - 59
99. Chief of Detectives - 55
100. Bonnie Young - 53
101. Lisa Basil - 46
102. Turner Grey - 39
103. Elise Deauxnim - 30
104. Missile - 20
105. Polly - 20
106. Winfred "Big Wins" Kitaki - 18
107. The Amazing Mr. Hat - 12
108. Zak Gramarye - 5

Overall total lines - 80116

Total lines by segment:

4-2 Investigation Day 1 - 1154
4-2 Investigation Day 2 - 891
4-2 Trial Day 1 - 724
4-2 Trial Day 2 - 699

Total lines by case:

2-4 - 5946
1-5 - 5913
3-5 - 5815
E1-5 - 4831
E2-5 - 4777
3-2 - 4151
3-3 - 4063
E2-3 - 3959
E2-2 - 3936
2-3 - 3884
4-2 - 3468
1-4 - 3466
2-2 - 3119
E1-4 - 2935
E2-4 - 2868
1-3 - 2741
E1-3 - 2412
E1-2 - 1995
E2-1 - 1923
1-2 - 1773
4-1 - 1421
3-4 - 1225
3-1 - 1167
E1-1 - 1039
2-1 - 899
1-1 - 389

Totals lines by game:

AAI2 - 17463
T&T - 16422
PW1 - 14282
JFA - 13848
AAI1 - 13212
AJ - 4889
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Total lines by character per case:

Turnabout Corner (4-2)

1. Apollo Justice - 1339 (38.61%)
2. Trucy Wright - 750 (21.63%)
3. Alita Tiala - 219 (6.31%)
4. The Judge - 216 (6.23%)
5. Klavier Gavin - 187 (5.39%)
6. Ema Skye - 148 (4.27%)
7. Wesley Stickler - 137 (3.95%)
8. Guy Eldoon - 117 (3.37%)
9. Wocky Kitaki - 111 (3.20%)
10. Phoenix Wright - 91 (2.62%)
11. Plum Kitaki - 73 (2.10%)
12. Other - 38
13. Winfred Kitaki - 18
14. The Amazing Mr. Hat - 12
15. Pal Meraktis - 7
16. Doctor Hickfield - 5

Total lines by character per game:

Apollo Justice

1. Apollo Justice - 1779
2. Trucy Wright - 755
3. The Judge - 464
4. Phoenix Wright - 348
5. Alita Tiala - 219
6. Kristoph Gavin - 193
7. Klavier Gavin - 187
8. Ema Skye - 148
9. Winston Payne - 144
10. Wesley Stickler - 137
11. Olga Orly - 126
12. Guy Eldoon - 117
13. Wocky Kitaki - 111
14. Plum Kitaki - 73
15. Other - 41
16. Winfred "Big Wins" Kitaki - 18
17. The Amazing Mr. Hat - 12
18. Pal Meraktis - 7
19. Zak Gramarye - 5
20. Doctor Hickfield - 5
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I'm guessing 4-3 is where the Judge passes up Maya for 3rd place

and also maybe where Mia falls out of the top ten depending on how many lines Trucy gets

and looking back over the overall list I just realized I forgot to include Trucy in there, but she's at 17th between Godot and Gregory with 755
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*deep breath*

okay time for 4-3
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one thing I do appreciate about 4-3 is all the music and song references it makes

"They don't have to turn on the red light" and "Who'd name their band the Police?" in particular are so good

also I did like the concept of having the playable character be a witness to the murder although they kind of botched the execution, like most of 4-3's neat ideas
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you know I really like the ladder/stepladder conversations between Apollo and Trucy since you can tell Trucy only does it because she learned it from her dad

whenever Apollo tries to get into the technical aspects, she doesn't know what to say and just ends the conversation by going "...I still say it's a stepladder"
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4-3 investigation day 1 complete

it's kind of weird that there's no proper investigation the day after the concert

it's just Apollo and Trucy realizing they can't communicate with Machi and calling it a day
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The music references are indeed great.

4-2 has more lines than I expected. I dunno, maybe I got less stuck on the case (AJ in general I found "easier" than the original trilogy cases, no psyche-locks to navigate and trials are pretty breezy generally) but it certainly took me signifcantly less time than 2-2 for instance.

Funny to watch Apollo rocket up the line count so fast regardless. Two cases and he's into the top ten! Going to be interesting to see if he can make #3 before AJ even ends (looks like it'll be close).
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I actually expected 4-2 to land around where it did. It clocked in at almost exactly the same time as 1-4, too (within like 2 minutes of each other).
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NeoElfboy posted...

Funny to watch Apollo rocket up the line count so fast regardless. Two cases and he's into the top ten! Going to be interesting to see if he can make #3 before AJ even ends (looks like it'll be close).

Hmmm...I'm kinda thinking he won't just because he has to split 4-4 with Phoenix (and 4-4 is kinda short for an epic case, too).

I'm actually curious to see who ends up with the most lines between Apollo and Phoenix in 4-4. I'd lean Apollo initially, but I think it'll be tight.
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I think he might make it if the Judge weren't a moving target. As is he'll have to wait for 5-2 which should push him over the top.
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4-4 is going to be the most interesting line count in the series, it's the only one where the main character might not be at the top.

4-3 trial day 1 complete

that was painful
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day 1 is the good day!
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Day 1 is awful beyond words

literally everybody except Klavier is stupid

Klavier does the smart thing by letting everyone else be stupid because it benefits his case
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day 1 investigation, yeah.

day 1 trial... is better than day 2 trial, at least.
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No, they're incredibly stupid during the day 1 trial. It is absolutely the single worst segment in the series.

there are so many holes in the case against Machi and yet nobody can apparently find a single one of them

everything with the revolver and the Interpol number is handled unbelievably poorly to the point that it's hard to believe Takumi wrote it

trial day 2 at least has the showdown with Daryan after you get done with the video and the magic trick

investigation day 2 also has the segment in Klavier's office which is pretty cool

so yeah, day 2 is noticeably better than day 1 even though it's still not that good either
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New topic:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/76656636
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LeonhartFour posted...

everything with the revolver and the Interpol number is handled unbelievably poorly to the point that it's hard to believe Takumi wrote it

Whatever scenario-writing magic Takumi had for AA was clearly lost after 3-5. 1-5 and AJ still have character work and humour at times but case construction is some flavour of bad throughout.

But yeah 4-3 day 1 trial is definitely one of the low points. Definitely second your thoughts there.
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transience posted...

day 1 trial... is better than day 2 trial, at least.

They all blend together in my mind, but I remember actually enjoying Daryan on the stand, unlike every other witness?
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eh, sorta. he's okay there. that video, though, drags everyone down that's involved.

I do like the end of day 1 trial, at least.
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ah yeah, forgot about the video. thanks, you've discouraged me from wanting to pick up AA4 again in the future. i was specifically thinking of the cocoons testimonies, territory that seemed kind of bizarre but super-fun.
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Apollo vs. Daryan is somehow the best rivalry he gets in the game

also for how completely and utterly incompetent he is on day 1, Apollo has Klavier on the ropes nearly the entire day on day 2 once he finally realizes there's no case against Machi

like yeah the video and the magic trick is bad on day 2 but my word at least it's not a vacuum of stupidity and terrible writing
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by the way I think I like Lamiroir a little less every time I replay this case
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don't play 4-3
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