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eaedwards6400 08/08/18 11:50:54 PM #101: |
Well I had this extremely elaborate idea in my head of what else it could have been but you know probably best to go with akam's razor.
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Crescent-Moon 08/08/18 11:51:33 PM #102: |
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eaedwards6400 posted...Logic would suggest that if Panthera is mafia, he is not the roleblocker. For this to be the case, we're likely dealing with yet another roleblock on night 1, then? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 08/08/18 11:52:17 PM #103: |
Poor occam
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eaedwards6400 08/08/18 11:53:19 PM #104: |
That would make 3 potential role blocks on night 1.
Could Tony be scum? He conveniently was blocked both nights. I'm having trouble recalling the situation of his claim and I'm not on my computer to quickly look. --- Brought to you by GameFlux Free GameFAQs app on Google Play! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eaedwards6400 08/08/18 11:54:21 PM #105: |
Leafeon13N posted...
Poor occam D'oh. Stupid professional wrestling got me! (For those not familiar, there is a tag team whose individual names are Akam and Rezar. I should have figure Occum was spelled wrong) --- Posted using GameFlux Get it now for Android from Google Play! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crescent-Moon 08/08/18 11:54:50 PM #106: |
eaedwards6400 posted...
That would make 3 potential role blocks on night 1. Tony counterclaimed the watcher claim which was made with a billion unclaimed in the game. It's very unlikely. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Panthera 08/08/18 11:55:29 PM #107: |
Red who do you think we should be lynching today?
benjamin3740 posted... Is there any chance scum would block AND attempt to kill Tony on night 1? Because that is really the only way for Panthera to be mafia off the current theory. That he targeted Tony to kill him and that kill was stopped. Confirmed with Chris that being roleblocked doesn't use up an ability, so I still have my mason recruit and roleblock left Also that scenario is shaky because Corrik and Eaed are the only protection we have known besides my doc save, and we know Eaed jailkept Corrik. You would need another person with a save out there, which is me of course but I suppose people who aren't me could assume someone else could be jack and just kept quiet yesterday thinking I'd die without them having to claim. --- Meow! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eaedwards6400 08/08/18 11:57:28 PM #108: |
Crescent-Moon posted...
eaedwards6400 posted...That would make 3 potential role blocks on night 1. Against Zam though. It would be the perfect gambit because Zam is so bad... (btw, this is my elaborate scenario I was discussing before) --- Posted using GameFlux ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Panthera 08/08/18 11:57:40 PM #109: |
Tony is almost certainly not scum. It's not "convenient" that one of the better scanning roles would get blocked both nights when it was claimed on day 1.
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ScareChan 08/08/18 11:58:56 PM #110: |
or....
scum have a redirector and sent ed to tony and panth just claimed blocked since ed claimed his action first --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 08/09/18 12:00:53 AM #111: |
Panthera posted...
Red who do you think we should be lynching today? Darn I was hoping to get you with that answer for some reason </3 So if there is no other protection but you (your theory), then do you think scum has no extra kills at all? Or do you think one of you, Corrik, and Eaed prevented any second kill? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eaedwards6400 08/09/18 12:01:06 AM #112: |
Like I said it was elaborate.
So with that said, at the moment the claimed people are: Eaed - JailKeeper Corrik (RIP) - Bodyguard Panthera - Jack w/ Mason, RB, Doc Tony - Watcher Am I missing anything? --- Brought to you by GameFlux Free GameFAQs app on Google Play! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScareChan 08/09/18 12:01:36 AM #113: |
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Crescent-Moon 08/09/18 12:02:36 AM #114: |
eaedwards6400 posted...
Crescent-Moon posted...eaedwards6400 posted...That would make 3 potential role blocks on night 1. And.. What happens if Tony gets counter-countered by one of the billions of unclaimed town? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 08/09/18 12:03:49 AM #115: |
And yes Red needs to be killed for his easy defense of Leo that was not based on scum or town but just on keeping him around. I didnt even seen them interact much so it's hard to believe it was just fun to have him around
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Leafeon13N 08/09/18 12:04:51 AM #116: |
benjamin3740 posted...
And yes Red needs to be killed for his easy defense of Leo that was not based on scum or town but just on keeping him around. I didnt even seen them interact much so it's hard to believe it was just fun to have him around Defense of leo? What the hell. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 08/09/18 12:07:48 AM #117: |
Leafeon13N posted...
benjamin3740 posted...And yes Red needs to be killed for his easy defense of Leo that was not based on scum or town but just on keeping him around. I didnt even seen them interact much so it's hard to believe it was just fun to have him around When you were asked if you thought Leo was scum didnt you say you werent going to consider lynching him early in the game because he's fun to have around regardless of alignment? If what you said was different than that, I'm all ears. I'm going off of vauge memory --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 08/09/18 12:09:41 AM #118: |
benjamin3740 posted...
That wasn't me. I quoted someone that said similar saying it was a stupid way to play. I play to win not to buddy up with friends. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 08/09/18 12:10:33 AM #119: |
Hell Scare can testify i love playing with Scare and i have absolutely burned him emotionally before.
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eaedwards6400 08/09/18 12:11:46 AM #120: |
Crescent-Moon posted...
eaedwards6400 posted...Crescent-Moon posted...eaedwards6400 posted...That would make 3 potential role blocks on night 1. Like I said it was just a scenario (that I should have called a theory) --- Posted using GameFlux ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Panthera 08/09/18 12:12:56 AM #121: |
benjamin3740 posted...
I don't know for sure, I guess Corrik (as claimed protection, people who know Corrik might have thought he wasn't bodyguard but was some other power role) and Tony were both good targets night 1 so it's possible Eaed or I stopped a kill. Set up meta is not a strong point for me so I can't have much confidence in trying to guess one way or the other what the scum team has. Also you're thinking of Plum, not Red, IIRC. He's the guy who said he didn't want to lynch Leo day 1 because Leo is just so swell. --- Meow! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 08/09/18 12:14:20 AM #122: |
Leafeon13N posted...
benjamin3740 posted... Oh. Who was it that said that? Puns or something? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eaedwards6400 08/09/18 12:17:38 AM #123: |
Also, just posting so I dont forget that puns bluffed a read on Leo that actually lead to a lynch.
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benjamin3740 08/09/18 12:22:17 AM #124: |
Panthera posted...
benjamin3740 posted... So you DO think that Tony could have been both roleblocked and shot night 1 by scum? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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turbopuns2 08/09/18 12:24:45 AM #125: |
So here is something
Did anyone else get the feeling that Sultan was hinting Bodyguard day 2? At some point he posted like "whoa wait, someone claimed bodyguard? Who was it" and then later on I recall seemingly out of nowhere he was like "hey guys can there be two of the exact same role on the same team" I didn't think anything about it since Corrik lies so much about his role. But now we know Corrik was actually BG. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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turbopuns2 08/09/18 12:26:45 AM #126: |
benjamin3740 posted...
do you think one of you, Corrik, and Eaed prevented any second kill? Corrik? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Panthera 08/09/18 12:32:25 AM #127: |
benjamin3740 posted...
So you DO think that Tony could have been both roleblocked and shot night 1 by scum? Theoretically, yes. Seems a bit weird to both block and shoot him - if you think he's going to be protected you don't shoot him, if you don't think he'll be protected you shoot him, although you should assume he'd be protected - but it could happen. It seems likelier, however, that if a scum extra kill was blocked night 1 it was Eaed's jailkeep on Corrik. Corrik claimed protection so he'd be a good target to kill if scum bought that he was power of some sort, and they'd expect him to not get saved over Tony by any other protection. --- Meow! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScareChan 08/09/18 12:32:32 AM #128: |
Leafeon13N posted...
Hell Scare can testify i love playing with Scare and i have absolutely burned him emotionally before. *sniff* --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 08/09/18 12:33:06 AM #129: |
turbopuns2 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...do you think one of you, Corrik, and Eaed prevented any second kill? Well definitely not Corrik. I wasn't thinking about that though, just repeating the protection he listed --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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turbopuns2 08/09/18 12:34:45 AM #130: |
benjamin3740 posted...
turbopuns2 posted...benjamin3740 posted...do you think one of you, Corrik, and Eaed prevented any second kill? Mildly concerning that you were just questioning without thinking critically. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 08/09/18 12:36:08 AM #131: |
turbopuns2 posted...
So here is something I cant see it being anything but him wondering if he needs to counterclaim Corrik. But I've left it alone as well because it'd out his power if he;s town and I still can;t see what the scum angle is from him saying it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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turbopuns2 08/09/18 12:38:14 AM #132: |
benjamin3740 posted...
I cant see it being anything but him wondering if he needs to counterclaim Corrik. But I've left it alone as well because it'd out his power if he;s town and I still can;t see what the scum angle is from him saying it. Well I don't think we have a jailkeeper with two bodyguards, tbh. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScareChan 08/09/18 12:40:29 AM #133: |
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Leafeon13N posted...turbopuns2 posted...Leafeon13N posted...I am more than mildly confused. Does no one read my posts --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 08/09/18 12:41:02 AM #134: |
Two bodyguards are generally incompatible.
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benjamin3740 08/09/18 12:42:15 AM #135: |
turbopuns2 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...I cant see it being anything but him wondering if he needs to counterclaim Corrik. But I've left it alone as well because it'd out his power if he;s town and I still can;t see what the scum angle is from him saying it. I don't know what Sultan was implying but maybe he's ready to elaborate on it now. The scum option is that he had planned to claim bodyguard and then was straight up asking if he could fake claim bodyguard and not be suspected for it...? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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turbopuns2 08/09/18 12:44:45 AM #136: |
ScareChan posted...
Does no one read my posts Yes and it's noted in my mind that Corrik, Han, Scare, and Puns all think red is scum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 08/09/18 12:44:49 AM #137: |
turbopuns2 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...turbopuns2 posted...benjamin3740 posted...do you think one of you, Corrik, and Eaed prevented any second kill? Yeah he started the sentence with "Corrik and Eaed are our protection" and I just ran with his phrasing so I could ask the question as it was from his point of view where he counted himself as protection. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 08/09/18 12:48:08 AM #138: |
ScareChan posted...
ScareChan posted...Leafeon13N posted...turbopuns2 posted...Leafeon13N posted...I am more than mildly confused. Can you elaborate on what Red was doing here? I don't really like that he replied to my accusations (easily refuted because they were straight up false lol) but not yours. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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turbopuns2 08/09/18 12:51:14 AM #139: |
It's true red has come across to me as being quite choosy about which strings he pulls so far. It's all things like theory, or perpetuating discord (ex: chiming in between me and tony, to nobody's benefit), or just commenting on things that factually happened, that kind of stuff.
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Leafeon13N 08/09/18 12:52:57 AM #140: |
benjamin3740 posted...
ScareChan posted...ScareChan posted...Leafeon13N posted...turbopuns2 posted...Leafeon13N posted...I am more than mildly confused. Scare is trying to say i was intentionally telling plum he was a bad player for discounting someone that was scum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 08/09/18 12:55:33 AM #141: |
turbopuns2 posted...
It's true red has come across to me as being quite choosy about which strings he pulls so far. It's all things like theory, or perpetuating discord (ex: chiming in between me and tony, to nobody's benefit), or just commenting on things that factually happened, that kind of stuff. Ehh its more that we had two lynches basically set early yesterday. Theres not a hell of a lot to do til flips are in motion tbh. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 08/09/18 12:56:43 AM #142: |
Right now I'm actually waiting to get to my pc to sort some numbers to see if the game is actually over.
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turbopuns2 08/09/18 12:58:23 AM #143: |
Panthera posted...
Red who do you think we should be lynching today? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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turbopuns2 08/09/18 12:59:06 AM #144: |
Well that was quite the unexpected ninja. Feels like a hell of a shift.
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ScareChan 08/09/18 12:59:42 AM #145: |
Leafeon13N posted...
Two bodyguards are generally incompatible. Yeah you cant resolve if both target a kill --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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turbopuns2 08/09/18 1:00:37 AM #146: |
Yeah I realize it was like a minute and a half between our posts and I was only quoting one line but I was doing it in mobile then scrolling down the rest of the page to ensure red hadn't replied to Panth's question and I just missed it.
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turbopuns2 08/09/18 1:05:14 AM #147: |
When will you be at your pc? Should I stay up?
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red13n 08/09/18 1:10:15 AM #148: |
turbopuns2 posted...
When will you be at your pc? Should I stay up? hi. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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turbopuns2 08/09/18 1:21:04 AM #149: |
Why would the game be over
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red13n 08/09/18 1:26:44 AM #150: |
actually that was premature let me take care of my pets.
(also its not game over i was just going over number of mislynches because it feels like we have more confirmed than we do. We just have a lot of people not talking much) --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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