Board 8 > Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate

(+) Yeah! (+)

yeah world simplified the grind a ton, for the better i think

and here i am about to dive into the grindiest monster hunter ever created
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Guys, I killed the Great Maccao

I am a hunter of monsters

Questions:
1. If a quest says Danger, does that mean the Great Maccao/whatever big monster will be there?
2. For crafting, do I actually have the items with me or can they be in my box?
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Yes
If you're not in a hunt you can craft from your box. otherwise it'll have to be in your pouch
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StealThisSheen posted...

Questions:
1. If a quest says Danger, does that mean the Great Maccao/whatever big monster will be there?
2. For crafting, do I actually have the items with me or can they be in my box?

1. Danger means something that isn't the target monster can show up (not guaranteed though). Generally if the subquest is to a hunt a given monster, it will always be there. You can get Great Maccao showing up on an unrelated quest, or some other big monster crashing the party when you're trying to hunt Great Maccao (bring Dung Bombs, hit a monster with one and it will usually leave to another part of the map soon after)

2. You can craft stuff that's in the box and have the items end up in the box. You can also craft stuff in your inventory and have it with you right away. No way to use stuff from the box to combine with stuff you're holding I don't think (definitely not on a quest, at least)
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Well I wanted to hammer Lao Shan to death just like in my (on hiatus, maybe forever) Freedom Unite playthrough of earlier this year, but that didn't quite work out. Good to know he can actually destroy the fort in this game if not flinched enough, in FU he's so slow that you practically have to not even touch him for him to have time to do it. Then I tried Valor Bow, a style I've never used before, with my high rank Alatreon bow set leftover from Generations. Turns out Valor Alatreon Bow slaughters him with ample time to spare. Go team!
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That feeling when you help someone out on their Lao urgent and use the same set you used to solo yours and it actually takes slightly longer

Granted I was focusing on breaking his shoulders for extra items just for kicks this time, but still. Helpful hint, don't use your high rank Nakarkos long sword and target the feet exclusively if you want to kill Lao
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Zigzagoon posted...

Been having so much fun playing this. God I missed how much fun boomerang prowler was.

Is it still 100% RNG whether you get a good cat or not?
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DeepsPraw posted...

Zigzagoon posted...

Been having so much fun playing this. God I missed how much fun boomerang prowler was.

Is it still 100% RNG whether you get a good cat or not?

They made it a lot easier to get good cats now. You can also change the skills through training if you got bad ones and such
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Officially at the point of the game where there's a ton of weapons and armor I want to make and it's going to take forever to get it all done and then it will all be outdated once I get access to the post final boss quests anyway. Hooray!
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I don't know if anyone here knows this, but online multiplayer, lag and Tigrex combine for a very peculiar experience. There's something about Tigrex just freezing in place as he does his turn around charge, only to teleport across the map, that fills me with glee. Or is it frustration? I get those two mixed up a lot.
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DeepsPraw posted...

Zigzagoon posted...

Been having so much fun playing this. God I missed how much fun boomerang prowler was.

Is it still 100% RNG whether you get a good cat or not?

The only part thats RNG is what pattern of skills the cat can learn. GH explains pretty well here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9m4XnACxFk" data-time="
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One thing I miss from World is Dung Bombs actually being reliable. Bit annoying how often it takes several minutes for things to actually leave even when pelted with poop
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Final boss cleared and Hunter Rank unlocked! Not sure how I feel about that final boss, the gimmick part of the fight is better than I expected, just the standard fight is kind of annoying. Seems like every move it has involves starting to swing at you to make you roll, then pausing before retargeting and attacking for real. Plus the stuff it throws literally homes in on you from anywhere, which kind of makes sense but is still aggravating to get used to because of how weird it looks. I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually. I better, considering I'm probably going to have to fight it, oh, eleven billion times to make the armor and all its good weapons...

Now I guess I'm just clearing village requests to get any quests gated behind them, which conveniently also helps unlock anything that's gated behind a specific HR
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I absolutely loved the final boss. 10/10, tons of fun and exciting.
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Frontier is crazy and over the top and ridiculously hard but man is it gooooooood
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45qaAERhrDA" data-time="

listen to this big angry boy's theme

why don't mainline have themes this good? there's so much great music in this
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or this theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfUgbFrpIwA" data-time="

so fucking good
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First song is alright, has a nice feel.

Don't really care for the 2nd.

Astalos theme tho. This song gets me pumped every time to fight him. So much fun <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBCUzoTtujE" data-time="

Valstrax's theme is also super awesome. Love it <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOlPIHIe2rM" data-time="

0:52 is so damn good
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Also I dunno what you are talking about mainlines not having good music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8X2MEEmC0g" data-time="

Is also incredible
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i didn't say they didn't have good music

just some of the themes i've heard in frontier have blown most of the stuff i remember from the mainline away
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g rank velocidromes in frontier spit farcasters at you that warp you back to base

that is all
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That is amazing LOL
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https://webm.video/i/a4UddV.mp4

cheeky bastards
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Farcaster drome sounds like best drome

Assuming dromes are judged by how annoying they are, which let's face it, they're pretty bad by any other standard so we might as well judge them by what they do best
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yeah dromes are dumb. i liked the -ggis more.

thankfully frontier never makes you fight them except for when you get to g rank, and technically you don't *have* to fight them, but there are 3 quests you fight them in, each quest with a different drome in an arena, and if you do them 5 times each you can make and fully upgrade a beginner g rank set (which actually has good skills to start out g rank).
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Not going to lie possibly the number one monster that isn't in GU that I wish was is Great Jaggi. I love that thing (and his poison and sleep inducing buddies too). Great Jaggi, Gogmazios and a Mohran are really the only things GU's roster is missing that keep me from thinking it's perfect
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jaggi really is the perfect introduction monster. his moveset is designed in such a way that it really introduces you to how you need to approach the combat in the game.

the dromes are just jumpy, annoying little pieces of shit
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Kut Ku is another good starter monster, although in his case it's because half the roster copies his moveset to some extent so by the time you get to them, you know how to handle it already <_<
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I actually think Arzuros would make the best first monster of the ones currently in LR Village 1-2 Gen/GU.

Maccao and the raptor -dromes are too small and fast, and completely unlike basically any other monster in the game except each other. Bulldrome is boring and Cephadrome is gimmicky and too difficult for a first monster (in fact, I think it shouldn't be in village 2 to begin with).
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Cephadrome is just the gift that keeps on giving

Unfortunately the only thing he has to give is frustration

Between swimming forever and having his army of little brothers waterblighting you out of nowhere, you aren't really fighting Cephadrome, you're fighting your own desire to punch the nearest wall
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yeah, kutku is pretty solid too.

i never actually thought i would play frontier, because i never thought i would be good enough to handle the crazy shit it throws at you. it's definitely worth struggling through the language barrier though, there is so much really fun content. i'm only just now in g rank though, when things are really going to start getting crazy.

you get a taste of the crazy at the end of high rank, which many years ago used to be the end game content, so you have to move through some monsters that were intended for you to have rather finely tuned sets for, and things you would throw yourself at for a good while before figuring out because there wasn't anything after it. now, though, the real game lies in g rank, so most people don't bother wasting much time in high rank, and you go through those same quests without the gear standard they were designed for.

it was an eye opener for sure, and i can definitely tell my play is already improving a lot. g rank just cranks things even further though. not only do the movesets get crazier and harder to deal with, but now every quest lowers your defense for ever star rating over 1*. by 150 points each star. so basically, defense doesn't do nearly as much for you in g rank and you literally just have to get good. you can choose to lower the star rating of most quests if you want, but it drastically lowers your rewards and can cause you to get nothing on carves, so it's not a great option outside of maybe learning a monster you're struggling with. and even when you do lower the rating all the way down to 1*, the monsters still hit like a ton of bricks.

it's tough and frustrating, but also super rewarding when you finally manage to get the hang of it and are able to start handling what the game throws at you.

it's a shame that this will likely never be released outside of the west, even now that monhun is popular outside of japan. the game is 11 years in the making, and translating the whole thing take far too much time. and the developers don't show any signs of abandoning it for something new any time soon either. in a couple weeks, the game is launching an entirely new weapon type (the magnet spike, which looks super awesome). that's not really something you do if you're planning to launch a new game for a broader audience.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqfFAXVW-dw" data-time="

this is the new weapon that hits later this month

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fasAN3f2oeA" data-time="&start=1604

and another video that shows more of the magnet mechanic. or what i assume is the magnet mechanic. still not entirely sure how that lock on warp is going to work

although, watching it again now, i notice that you pull out a little gun and mark a spot on the monster. i guess that's how it works! you magnetize a spot on the monster and then you can warp into that point. crazy shit
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That looks like a...switch dual great sword...? That can fly, naturally
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yeah it's like combo great sword fused with the hunting horn moveset

and some crazy warp mechanics on top because it's frontier and so naturally the ridiculous is cranked up to 150%

i'm very interested in it because i've always loved the hunting horn moveset but never loved how little damage it does.

i still need to try tonfas though. i hear they're pretty hard to learn and master
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My knowledge of Frontier is unfortunately limited to "it's not available on my continent" and "it's batshit"
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Panthera posted...

My knowledge of Frontier is unfortunately limited to "it's not available on my continent" and "it's batshit"

i mean that's pretty much all you need to know until you actually try to play it. it's a very accurate summary!

it's not actually that hard to set up if you actually want to play it if you get tired of GU or whatever. the JP version requires a VPN (most people recommend mudfish, which can be set to only apply to MHF and 3 dollars gives you over 25GB of data which would last a month of heavy play). there's also a subscription which is 1400yen a month, though the first month is only 500 (yen is basically 100=1usd, at least when it comes to buying webmoney cards on the internet). you don't need a subscription for the first 4 ranks though, which is low rank and early high rank.

there's also the taiwanese version which doesn't require a VPN and has a cheaper monthly subscription, but is about 9 months behind on content.

it also runs on toasters, ps4 (and i believe ps3), and i'm pretty sure at one point it was on the xboxes but i don't know if they still do
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I'm mildly interested in a game that can run on a toaster, but I prefer to use mine for making actual toast
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make toast...

of some monsters!




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I've always had a passing interest in Frontier but I'm well past the point in my life that I'm willing to pay monthly for any game, lol. Plus for the double fees you need to pay to play it, I'd hope it was at least easily the best MH game of all time, but I rather doubt that's the case, haha. Feel free to make a case otherwise if you think it is!
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Teostra is the only toaster I need
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Xiahou Shake posted...

I've always had a passing interest in Frontier but I'm well past the point in my life that I'm willing to pay monthly for any game, lol. Plus for the double fees you need to pay to play it, I'd hope it was at least easily the best MH game of all time, but I rather doubt that's the case, haha. Feel free to make a case otherwise if you think it is!

i'll be able to say for certain once i start moving through g rank more.

but as of now? in terms of content, challenge, variety, set building, it is! at the very least it's absolutely worth the 8 dollars it would cost to try it for one month.

whether or not you will like it probably comes down to how much you appreciate ridiculously hard shit. and giant AOE attacks that require some precise timing and positioning to dodge.

but there's so much content in this game. lots of customization. lots of great aesthetic stuff. the game is 11 years old and has continuously been improved, and still continues to be improved. that alone allows it to have a level of polish that the other game don't get.

all that said, the game is built on second generation monhun, so a number of things will feel dated if you aren't already used to them. improvements have been made of course, but it's still rooted on second gen.

the language barrier is definitely a challenge, but if you use the resources that are out there, and connect with other english players it becomes manageable.

the free trial period doesn't quite showcase how challenging things get, unfortunately, but you do get a small taste of it at the end.
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honestly, there's so much awesome shit in this game that going back to games without it is going to be difficult.

extreme style is too good. gunlance is the best it's ever been in frontier. switchaxe too probably.

and there's so many new monsters that will probably never come outside of frontier. and most of them are awesome!
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That's super cool! You definitely make it sound appealing. Maybe depending on how things go from here I'll give it a shot at some point.
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yeah! i don't think it's going anywhere anytime soon so there's no real rush to play it.

just do be aware that unless you speak japanese, it's going to be rough for the first little bit, until you get adjusted to everything. to a certain extent, if you're familiar with how monster hunter menus and whatnot works, you will be able to grasp a good chunk of things without too much effort. but there *is* a ton of new stuff that you have to learn, which requires a good amount of poring over websites and using screen translation programs and cross referencing shit.

it was very very frustrating the first two days, i wont lie. but once i learned to rely more heavily on the resources available (which do a very good job of walking you through each step of the progression process), it has become a lot smoother and i don't get frustrated by it anymore.
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*monster gets knocked out*
*I get ready to smash its fucking face in for the sweet head part*
*the movement animation of my attack pushes me into the next area*
*when I get back the monster is running around like normal*

What fucking bullshit.
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Grand Kirby posted...

*monster gets knocked out*
*I get ready to smash its fucking face in for the sweet head part*
*the movement animation of my attack pushes me into the next area*
*when I get back the monster is running around like normal*

What fucking bullshit.

welcome to classic monhun!

try to avoid fighting near the entrances to each zone.
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That would more doable if the asshole monster didn't jump around everywhere like a coked up kangaroo.
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It's usually pretty easy to keep away from area boundaries. You get used to it eventually
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I am suddenly reminded of why I never liked Nakarkos. Such a boring fight where you just hack away at a damage sponge who spawns laser beams on you and has tells that all boil down to the exact tempo his tentacles are spasming at
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So how is World compared to GU? Like, I like GU a lot so far. How samey or different does World feel?
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