Board 8 > Survivor/BB/TAR Summer Topic 3 - David and FOUTTE vs. a Goliath Level 6

(+) Yeah! (+)

LOL lets go on a bike
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"Tyler has long hair but he's not a woman damn it!" Lol

Let's go!

Where the hell did that bike come from?!
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K.C. phone home
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Goddamnit.

Dont get me wrong I wasnt rooting for Angela for a single second, but for the past few weeks I can say I have started to hate her not as much.
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I love how they were only able to capture 2 seconds of footage of the elusive steve
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Summer of Steve 2018.
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Summer of steve on a beam 2018, sure!
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Short of JC winning the final HoH I think Kaycee wins the game.
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That shot of the three of them on the memory wall was nice

So hyped we're going to finally learn whats wrong with angela!?
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Short of JC winning the final HoH I think Kaycee wins the game.

dohoho
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Short of JC winning the final HoH I think Kaycee wins the game.

I think Kaycee wins regardless at this point. Unfortunate given the incredible game that Tyler has played, but I think Kaycee has him and JC beat.
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JC's only chance of winning was a bitter jury against Tyler or Angela. No one is bitter towards Kaycee, so she should have no problem winning against him.
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bump hype come back peridiam
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who wants to see my hoh room?
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*fake enthusiasm*
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who wants to shine bright like a frankie
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I hate JC. I just hope and pray he doesn't make the finals. Also, I hope and pray Tyler loses too, because fuck "mastermind" players ruining seasons.
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Noo global is delaying bb by an hour
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This may have been a relatively low-drama season, but I have to say it was refreshing there was no real bullying or making anyone feel shunned by the house or anything like that this season. Outside of a couple big moments, people were generally cordial to each other (to their faces anyway, coughrockstarcough).
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Rockstar was a real piece of shit. Hopefully she will change her ways once she leaves the house, but I highly doubt that. She will likely continue to be a bigot and not realize why she was in the wrong to say the horrible things she did.

JC is a greater concern. While he was never intentionally malicious the way Rockstar was, he had no concept of personal space, no cultural awareness, and a lack of respect for others' differences. I worry that he might end up in a depressive rut given the toxicity of the fandom. Even if he makes the finals, which is always a possibility. If he wins, the show is done.

Returnee considerations from this season are likely to be Tyler, Haleigh, and Brett. That's probably it. Haleigh because she's the most-liked person from FOUTTE and, given a few more years of life experience, she could legit become the next Nicole (funny given how, with the glasses, they look so damn similar). Tyler obvious. Brett because of his speeches.
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It baffles me how people think Rockstar is such a terrible person and not Brett and Angela.

Like, I GET hating Rockstar, I really do, but to say she's such a garbage person and then turning around and acting like Brett and Angela are just angels playing for the camera is just... yeah.
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I don't think Brett and Angela are angels, but neither of them is a horrible person. Rockstar is a horrible person. Playing for the cameras is one thing. Being a total vindictive asshole over the labels you've assigned to people is another. There's no comparison between the two. One is trying to make good TV while boosting one's ego. The other is being downright despicable.

It baffles me how you think the two are even comparable.
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Labels she assigned? Dude, Brett and Angela are the walking embodiments of EXACTLY what Rockstar called them.
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Nope, they're not. They're people. Instead of labeling them quickly and being nasty about it, Rockstar should've tried to get to know them. The reason they were both mean in their goodbye messages was because she was a terrible person who was so bitter and petty that she was never going to vote for either of them.

Rockstar was the one who failed at the social game, not Brett and Angela. Both Brett and Angela got where they are through hard work, not through privilege. Rockstar meanwhile wanted the world to revolve around her because her shit doesn't stink. Rockstar's racist and sexist comments, typical of SJW scum, were based on her tinted perceptions. Instead of labeling people quickly and making bigoted judgments based on those labels, why can't we treat people as people? That's something Rockstar fails to realize and it's what makes her a horrible person.
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If Brett looked like Scottie and Angela looked like Rockstar, they dont get into L6 in the first place. Rockstar was and still is absolutely correct.
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Wrong. Rockstar is too snooty to realize that social game is what brings people together and she didn't even try. The reason she didn't get into L6 was because she didn't care to do anything but label them.

Level 6 was based on bonds, not attractiveness. The pairs of Tyler/Kaycee, Brett/Winston, and Angela/Rachel simply teamed up due to common interests. That they're the more attractive people in the bunch had nothing to do with it, though it probably did have to do with them bonding. Even so, it was the social game that brought them together.
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So a bunch of fit, pretty people aligned based on common interests (that certainly wouldnt match up as a result of living similarly-privileged lifestyle), and its just a coincidence that they all happen to be pretty? Okay, sure. And Jenna/Heidi/Shawna aligned with each other because they all enjoyed baseball.
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Rockstar is an ugly person inside and out. Her interest from the beginning was labeling people, bullying them, and just being deplorable. If she tried, she probably COULD have found common interests with members of L6. She chose to be snotty instead.

If you think all white people are privileged, you are a racist. PERIOD. Angela had to work to get where she is. It didn't just fall into her lap. As a white guy myself, I find it highly offensive - I am in no way privileged because of everything I had to deal with in my youth, and if someone called me privileged, I would call them a bully like the ones I dealt with because that's exactly what they are. Race has nothing to do with it. A racist like Rockstar was highly presumptuous and the reason she was excluded from L6 was by her own choice to not play the social game with them, either out of jealousy or bigotry. Her attitude, not her appearance, was the problem.

Do you not understand this? You're taking the side of a horrible person and a horrible player and it doesn't reflect well on you.
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Taking care of your body and caring about how you present yourself still counts as a common interest. And it's a big one, because it's generally a big part of their lives. Rockstar said it herself in the first episode that she's basically never seen the inside of a gym.

And I guess we're just overlooking how Kaycee doesn't even fit into that stereotype in the first place. If looks were everything, Haleigh would've been in L6 instead.
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Im white too. I work hard. And I wouldnt consider myself attractive. But I can admit that Im EXTREMELY privileged to be who I am in this country. The difficulty of my life would be magnified immensely if I was any other demographic.
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Also, the whole argument against Rockstar (and I fully admit that she is abrasive and emblematic of all SJWs people hate online) ignores the fact that Scottie was shunned and excluded the same way by L6. It also ignores the fact that, by the end of her time in the House, Rockstar genuinely believed shed patched things up with Brett and wanted to work with him while he spent his time laughing at her behind her back.

L6 as a collective was just very smug and entitled all season long, and I can totally understand why Rockstar may have had her preconceived notions reinforced by their attitudes. PARTICULARLY Bretts douchey speeches attacking her personally, and Angela being an anti-social bitch.
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Espeon posted...

Also, the whole argument against Rockstar (and I fully admit that she is abrasive and emblematic of all SJWs people hate online) ignores the fact that Scottie was shunned and excluded the same way by L6. It also ignores the fact that, by the end of her time in the House, Rockstar genuinely believed shed patched things up with Brett and wanted to work with him while he spent his time laughing at her behind her back.

L6 as a collective was just very smug and entitled all season long, and I can totally understand why Rockstar may have had her preconceived notions reinforced by their attitudes. PARTICULARLY Bretts douchey speeches attacking her personally, and Angela being an anti-social bitch.

Yeah this. Scottie absolutely made an effort to bond with L6 on a personal level, and his Winston/Brett noms during his HoH were from the same "it's just a game" mentality that L6 claims they were using the entire time. And yet they still treated him like ass.

At the risk of sounding controversial, I think the only reason L6 avoided being seen as an elitist alliance is because the mixed-race lesbian was in there too. If Kaycee had been out of L6 and replaced with Haleigh, then it truly would have been all the attractive, straight white people vs. the minorities and weirdos, and I guarantee you people would be calling them out on that shit.

And by the way, I'm not an SJW by any means, in fact I consider myself slightly to the right on the political spectrum.
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Just finished my first write-up for our list, @Underleveled. It's a long one.
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It is hard to call them entitled when on the other hand we have Bayleigh. I mean we literally saw the mansion that she grew up in. And I dont like the idea that things are easier because someone looks attractive because what people consider fluctuates on a person by person basis. And if you just mean the norm for attractiveness I don't think it is a coincidence that the "attractive ones are the ones who like to work out". That's because that's the norm. Has Rockstar been the type that liked to workout she would have looked better and fit in with L6. Remember Swaggy and Bayleigh were good with both sides until Swaggy overplayed week 1 and declared himself the leader of the opposition. And remember L6 wanted to keep Steve so they could Scottie but couldn't because Sam had the app.

People blame race and gender too much when it comes to these things and that is surprising because that is exact opposite of the "progressive" that those people are often looking for. I think people who go looking for that issue are just looking for something about a grouping they dont like. These alliances are based off of interest and I think Kaycee is the biggest example because of that being the case. She had an LGBT loving progressive person on the other side. Sure she could have bonded with Fessy about football but he was too busy thinking with his other head. Frankly, if this is about being beautiful straight white people why arent fess and Hayleigh in L6?

And you used Heidi/Jenna/Shawna as a counter-argument dont forget that they brought in Dana, another strong woman, into the fold and dare I say not the most attractive woman.
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Inviso posted...

Just finished my first write-up for our list, @Underleveled. It's a long one.

Do you want me to PM you my 76 and 75 so you can focus in those?
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KujikawaRising posted...

If he wins, the show is done.

can you explain this ive never seen this before
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GTM posted...

KujikawaRising posted...

If he wins, the show is done.

can you explain this ive never seen this before

It's just Andy being dramatic and making an enormous jump in logic.
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never seen this before not even in this topic
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Andy has said it a few times in this topic and eaeds and I have both told him that it's not gonna happen.
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GTM posted...

never seen this before not even in this topic

He thinks because of the things that he has done in the house will be come at so negatively that it will force CBS to cancel the show. I have absolutely no idea how he jumped to that conclusion and he continues to forget that casuals love JC
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Actually, the superfan riot will get national media attention and the casuals will find out about everything. And... yeah.
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(ive seen it in the topic so many times and eaed has told him to stop)
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whats wrong with angela
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so hyped for survivor
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now listen

this aint no make believe
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grover? grover johnson?
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elmo on HGH

REMEMBER BOX TOPS?
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K
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Fugg yew Level 6
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