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SupremeZero 10/15/18 1:52:08 PM #303: |
Jakyl25 posted...
HarrietTubgirl posted...Corrik posted...https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/science/23andme-genetic-ethnicity-study.html From germany. And his mother was a scottish immigrant. He almost certainly has exactly 0 native american dna. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 10/15/18 1:53:26 PM #304: |
Suprak the Stud posted...
If you watch the full video she also talks to roughly 10 people that all say "no we didn't consider any thing like that she was one of the best law professors in the country at the time. It isn't gonna change her marking herself as a minority when she wasn't. I dunno what her end game goal was. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/15/18 1:53:34 PM #305: |
And the misunderstanding of averages and statistics strikes again
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Corrik 10/15/18 1:54:31 PM #306: |
SupremeZero posted...
Jakyl25 posted...HarrietTubgirl posted...Corrik posted...https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/science/23andme-genetic-ethnicity-study.html I am gonna fucking die if it's Warren versus Trump in the next election and if he pulls out an ancestry site that says he has a native American ancestor likely in the past 10 generations. I'll lose it. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HarrietTubgirl 10/15/18 1:54:53 PM #307: |
SupremeZero posted...
Jakyl25 posted...HarrietTubgirl posted...Corrik posted...https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/science/23andme-genetic-ethnicity-study.html that's not how these DNA tests work --- SephG on the go ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 10/15/18 1:56:22 PM #308: |
HarrietTubgirl posted...
SupremeZero posted...Jakyl25 posted...HarrietTubgirl posted...Corrik posted...https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/science/23andme-genetic-ethnicity-study.html On a side note, mine should be back soon. I sent it out a few months ago. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 10/15/18 2:32:25 PM #309: |
for the record, GMUN archives all the topics on his site now.
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Jakyl25 10/15/18 2:45:24 PM #310: |
HarrietTubgirl posted...
SupremeZero posted...Jakyl25 posted...HarrietTubgirl posted...Corrik posted...https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/science/23andme-genetic-ethnicity-study.html Explain --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CelesMyUserName 10/15/18 2:48:35 PM #311: |
reminder that seph didn't substantiate his claim at all
"I read something" is like ulti tier bait --- https://imgtc.com/i/1LkkaGU.jpg somethin somethin hung somethin horse somethin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 10/15/18 2:51:28 PM #312: |
He read it after typing it.
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Espeon 10/15/18 2:53:37 PM #313: |
CelesMyUserName posted...
reminder that seph didn't substantiate his claim at all Saying you read ANYTHING is the exact opposite of Ulti-tier bait. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever https://imgur.com/SSw6M9E ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HarrietTubgirl 10/15/18 2:54:36 PM #314: |
Jakyl25 posted...
HarrietTubgirl posted...SupremeZero posted...Jakyl25 posted...HarrietTubgirl posted...Corrik posted...https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/science/23andme-genetic-ethnicity-study.html The DNA tests are a test of probability. Warren's test said there was a probability that she was 1/32 to 1/1024 Native American. 1/1024 falls on the low end of the confidence interval. That is such a low percentage that it is entirely possible that Trump's test would reveal a similar genetic makeup on the high end of his confidence interval, even if it doesn't make logical sense. That's how small Warren's Native ancestry is. --- SephG on the go ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HarrietTubgirl 10/15/18 2:55:16 PM #315: |
CelesMyUserName posted...
reminder that seph didn't substantiate his claim at all See post above. --- SephG on the go ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HarrietTubgirl 10/15/18 2:56:02 PM #316: |
Eddv posted...
Jesus Warren way fucking stay on message for the mid terms. Also, yes. This was very silly political stunting. Unsurprising from Elizabeth Warren. --- SephG on the go ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reg 10/15/18 2:56:41 PM #317: |
Espeon posted...
CelesMyUserName posted...reminder that seph didn't substantiate his claim at all Now now, Ulti will lie and claim he read articles that, when actually examined, completely disprove his arguments. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 10/15/18 3:36:20 PM #318: |
HarrietTubgirl posted...
Jakyl25 posted...HarrietTubgirl posted...SupremeZero posted...Jakyl25 posted...HarrietTubgirl posted...Corrik posted...https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/science/23andme-genetic-ethnicity-study.html Didnt the test say she assuredly has a Native American ancestor 6 to 10 generations back? Theres literally no way Trump can say the same. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eddv 10/15/18 3:38:03 PM #319: |
Those tests aren't super reliable - but the fact that we are focused on that idiots DNA instead of the issues is evidence that shes a fucking moron.
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HarrietTubgirl 10/15/18 3:41:31 PM #320: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
HarrietTubgirl posted...Jakyl25 posted...HarrietTubgirl posted...SupremeZero posted...Jakyl25 posted...HarrietTubgirl posted... No. It gives a probability that she had on Native ancestor with a statistical confidence between 6 and 10 generations removed. A range that almost every white person in the US would have. --- SephG on the go ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HarrietTubgirl 10/15/18 3:42:55 PM #321: |
Also she claims that her mother faced discrimination because she was Cherokee. Which is absurd because, according to this test, she would have likely had <1% Cherokee blood.
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ChaosTonyV4 10/15/18 3:53:37 PM #322: |
If its between 6 and 10, why do you keep assuming its the lowest possible?
And no, not everyone white person in the US would have, because Ive seen countless numbers of these tests on Facebook from friends with 0% North American results. If both your parents or all your Grandparents are immigrants or children of immigrants, then there is a 0% possibility of Native American blood. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 10/15/18 3:56:10 PM #323: |
It doesn't say she assuredly had one. It says there is great confidence she had one in that range. They aren't ironclad reliable. Which is why some people get results they know are wrong. It is based on your genome.
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Eddv 10/15/18 4:03:40 PM #324: |
There is a minor chance I have some native american just by virtue of my family being here since the 17th century but I wouldn't be surprised if it were 0 either.
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red sox 777 10/15/18 4:06:42 PM #325: |
Corrik posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...Hillary Clinton is 100% running again as of yesterday, with Michelle as the planned VP on the ticket. So Hillary figured out what will get her support. The people who won't like her defending Bill will still vote for her against Trump, but lots of people like Bill. It's true she might lose the primary.....if it's not rigged hard enough.... --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 10/15/18 4:16:25 PM #326: |
I'm no biology expert, but I'm pretty sure Seph has the right idea here, at least in the sense that it is a question of probabilities and that they won't produce definitive results such as "one relative from 7 generations ago was Native American". You would have to infer that from whatever the percentages are which would have some margin of error associated with them. What the typical margin of error is on these things I don't know.
Eddv posted... Those tests aren't super reliable - but the fact that we are focused on that idiots DNA instead of the issues is evidence that shes a fucking moron. I don't necessarily agree with this. I think she's doing this in anticipation of her political opponents later on trying to focus on issues that don't matter, so that when the time comes we CAN focus on the issues. (...in theory) I do tentatively agree with the point that "right before the midterms" specifically is probably a bad time. --- Congratulations to BK_Sheikah00, this year's guru to achieve contest enlightenment! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 10/15/18 4:18:01 PM #327: |
It also further proves that when Donald Trump calls someone out on something they provide evidence defending themselves whereas when Donald Trump is called out on something, its fake news or doesn't matter.
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Corrik 10/15/18 4:31:32 PM #328: |
pyresword posted...
I'm no biology expert, but I'm pretty sure Seph has the right idea here, at least in the sense that it is a question of probabilities and that they won't produce definitive results such as "one relative from 7 generations ago was Native American". You would have to infer that from whatever the percentages are which would have some margin of error associated with them. What the typical margin of error is on these things I don't know. I am pretty sure her "proof" isn't going to change anything. She is not a native American. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 10/15/18 5:17:07 PM #329: |
LordoftheMorons posted...
Oh jesus Ulti please don't tell me you're a qanon person that seems like a logical evolution of his character --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 10/15/18 5:29:47 PM #330: |
Yeah I don't think it's going to work either.
All I was saying is that I think she's doing this because she's trying to steer discussion towards real issues in the long-term, not because she actually wants people to be talking about this DNA ancestry stuff. --- Congratulations to BK_Sheikah00, this year's guru to achieve contest enlightenment! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 10/15/18 5:39:37 PM #331: |
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Jakyl25 10/15/18 6:26:49 PM #332: |
I am technically 1/8th Native American but I dont consider myself Native.
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ChaosTonyV4 10/15/18 6:29:48 PM #333: |
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-defense-secretary-mattis-could-leave-administration-hes-sort-of-a-democrat
The name of the link says it all, I think. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VintageGin 10/15/18 6:58:09 PM #335: |
catching up on this topic and
UltimaterializerX posted...
didn't ulti do this exact thing in mafia or some shit is this a cry for help --- Ginhyun https://imgur.com/t7G7uoU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HarrietTubgirl 10/15/18 7:18:10 PM #336: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
If both your parents or all your Grandparents are immigrants or children of immigrants, then there is a 0% possibility of Native American blood. There is a statistical chance that you can have a native ancestor who emigrated to Europe. --- SephG on the go ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HarrietTubgirl 10/15/18 7:20:51 PM #337: |
Jakyl25 posted...
I am technically 1/8th Native American but I dont consider myself Native. Exactly. For Warren to claim her mother faced racial discrimination and for her to use her "heritage" to get tenured is absolutely disgusting and possibly pathological. She should not be in Congress. --- SephG on the go ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eddv 10/15/18 7:21:05 PM #338: |
Jakyl25 posted...
I am technically 1/8th Native American but I dont consider myself Native. Yeah isnt the controversy that she tried to claim Native Ancestry on a College Application? This does absolutely nothing to help her case there. Doubling down on this is pretty dumb on her part. But again....3 weeks before mid terms doing this....we already knew she was stupid. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 10/15/18 7:22:20 PM #339: |
at least she doesn't save calendars though
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Inviso 10/15/18 7:24:25 PM #340: |
Eddv posted...
Jakyl25 posted...I am technically 1/8th Native American but I dont consider myself Native. I'm not seeing anything about listing it on a college application. I'm seeing that Harvard, in an effort to promote diversity, wanted to know if they had any biracial faculty, and she said "sure, I'm part Cherokee". She didn't get the job as a diversity hire or anything like that. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 10/15/18 7:40:32 PM #341: |
The Warren thing is nothing tbqh.
like who cares I think the only thing it really says is that's she running in 2020 because I can't imagine any other reason she'd bring it back up. It's such a nothing story that it only makes sense to refute it if she thinks it'll be something that'll get hammered at (EMAILS) in a national campaign. I'm conflicted though if she should have bothered though. Part of me thinks the proper way to handle this is to just ignore and not even dignify it with a response (like did Obama releasing his birth certificate really satisfied the crazies?) but I mean, I dunno, maybe it actually would matter because everything is so stupid in the year 2018 (also the argument that say, Kerry, was hurt by not responding to the swiftboat attacks faster). I don't think the timing matters either re: midterms because again who cares. Like what local/state race is this going to come in lol. Thinking Warren's plan is to bring it up now so that presumably when she announces a run after the midterms she can go "Already addressed this before" and point to it rather than having it be a story that pops up in during a campaign. and of course trump yet again manages to find the dumbest way to respond to it by denying he ever said he'd donate a million dollars to charity if she did this when it's well documented. like lmfao how can he always pick the worst option. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HarrietTubgirl 10/15/18 7:42:24 PM #342: |
She got caught misleading people about her race for political and professional gain. How is that nothing?
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HarrietTubgirl 10/15/18 7:43:49 PM #343: |
Also like Eddv said, the timing is so entirely selfish any oblivious to her party's current situation. She will lead the Dems off a cliff if she's the nominee.
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Jakyl25 10/15/18 7:44:46 PM #344: |
HarrietTubgirl posted...
She got caught misleading people about her race for political and professional gain. How is that nothing? What do you want the consequences to be? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 10/15/18 7:45:44 PM #345: |
Jakyl25 posted...
HarrietTubgirl posted...She got caught misleading people about her race for political and professional gain. How is that nothing? Elected President, one assumes. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 10/15/18 7:48:37 PM #346: |
Maybe hell support Warren just to pwn people like Eddv
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Mr Lasastryke 10/15/18 7:50:02 PM #347: |
i mean, it's "nothing" in the sense that kavanaugh saving 5000 calendars and claiming that they're actually diaries is nothing. they're not huge scandals or anything but these things convince me that they're both lunatics who shouldn't be in congress and on the supreme court (respectively).
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xp1337 10/15/18 7:51:49 PM #348: |
Anyway, speaking of lying for political gain:
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1051674591448485888 Duncan Hunter (The indicted Republican congressman - well, one of the indicted Republican congressmen) is running an anti-Muslim smear campaign against his opponent. ...his Christian opponent. Says he changed his name to sound more Hispanic (his mother is Hispanic and the "change" is to her family's name) and that's how "radical Muslims are trying to infiltrate the U.S. government." --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 10/15/18 8:03:18 PM #349: |
Mr Lasastryke posted...
but these things convince me that they're both lunatics who shouldn't be in congress Uhhhh. Can you elaborate? What exactly are you alleging against Warren here? --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HarrietTubgirl 10/15/18 8:03:38 PM #350: |
Jakyl25 posted...
HarrietTubgirl posted...She got caught misleading people about her race for political and professional gain. How is that nothing? Retirement --- SephG on the go ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 10/15/18 8:04:37 PM #351: |
xp1337 posted...
What exactly are you alleging against Warren here? that she's not actually of native american descent? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inviso 10/15/18 8:06:05 PM #352: |
Mr Lasastryke posted...
xp1337 posted...What exactly are you alleging against Warren here? Based on what I've read, Elizabeth Warren claimed native America heritage based on family stories (not just her pulling it out of thin air) and didn't use that heritage for any sort of personal gain. And apparently, she DOES have native American heritage. So why do you think she's crazy? --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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