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_SecretSquirrel
10/14/18 12:32:09 AM
#51:


I feel more worried about Drake against Tails than against Chief. That's kind of sad.
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MZero11
10/14/18 1:14:14 AM
#52:


Big Bob posted...
MZero11 posted...
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Firstly, "Kiryu" is the character's name. "Kazama" is his family name. Japanese names are backwards compared to western names.


His family name is Kiryu

Is it? I'm looking it up now, and all I can find is that his foster father was Shintaro Kazuma, which would indicate that Kazuma is his family name.

In any case, "Kiryu" is what the characters in the game refer to him as.


You're a little mixed up here! His name is Kazuma Kiryu, and his foster father's name is Shintaro Kazama
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_SecretSquirrel
10/14/18 1:14:45 AM
#53:


How big of an advantage could Dante really have against Ganondorf in a sprite round? I feel like that would just be an ugly image for both sides, since we'd probably see some blurry ass PS2 model from DMC1 against Bacondorf.
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LeonhartFour
10/14/18 1:17:33 AM
#54:


I'd still take it over Bacondorf. Ugly sprite is worse than ugly PS1/PS2 character model.

like Snake would do a lot better with an MGS1 character model no matter how ugly it is
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_SecretSquirrel
10/14/18 1:26:57 AM
#55:


LeonhartFour posted...
I'd still take it over Bacondorf. Ugly sprite is worse than ugly PS1/PS2 character model.

like Snake would do a lot better with an MGS1 character model no matter how ugly it is

Well, Snake would definitely do better with a PS1 model because he's got super shitty NES/GB sprites, so anything would be an improvement.

But Dante potentially bringing a mess of red and white polygons, possibly with a sword or gun, isn't the ideal conditions for a Bacondorf upset. I'd be considering it if Ganon drew someone with good looking sprites.

Of course, this just makes me wish we had an idea of what match pictures are going to entail, and not just from the perspective of someone wanting to contribute on that end.
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MZero11
10/14/18 1:29:23 AM
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Probably my first name drop on The Show!

I feel like a celebrity
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SuperNiceDog
10/14/18 1:34:48 AM
#57:


Megaman BETTER hahahahahaah. 2hr 28min 40sec into the show.

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LeonhartFour
10/14/18 1:50:08 AM
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But the point is that the MGS1 character models are ugly, too. It's just a different sort of ugly, which is preferable to ugly sprites.
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_SecretSquirrel
10/14/18 2:33:41 AM
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I'm loving yoblazer's giddiness at Crono possibily reversing a win on Cloud in a second match, but knowing I'm going even bolder with that logic with everything on the line makes it all the more sweeter.
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LusterSoldier
10/14/18 3:04:01 AM
#60:


As of right now, I have just started listening to this episode.
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LusterSoldier
10/14/18 3:10:00 AM
#61:


"He knows his soda and his stats"

Thanks for that comment about me, Ngamer.
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LusterSoldier
10/14/18 3:16:53 AM
#62:


I like that we don't have 12 hour matches anymore, because it reduces our already terrible vote totals even more. At least running multiple matches at the same time only slightly reduces vote totals (a less than 10% reduction) compared to having only one match having the spotlight as it would be in later rounds.
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LusterSoldier
10/14/18 3:24:34 AM
#63:


For the rally spillover effect, the 2013 contest allowed you to vote directly from the results page for the individual match. So the Draven matches didn't affect any other matches since they had linked only to the results page of that match. 2013 only had one match running at any given time.
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LordoftheMorons
10/14/18 3:32:33 AM
#64:


Shovel Knight is fantastic

It doesn't exactly have sequels, but there were two (soon to be three) DLCs that were each the same length as the original game.

I'm going with SK there, but I'm not super confident about it.
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LordoftheMorons
10/14/18 4:04:46 AM
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Looking forward to KH3, but Sora is still super lame!
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LusterSoldier
10/14/18 4:51:34 AM
#66:


This site is only around 92% Male (not 95-97% like Leon is saying). Over the past several Male/Female polls, the Male percentage has dropped every single time. I think a lot of this is because of our site's relatively static userbase (since the casual visitors aren't seeing the polls). As a result of this and because of our already high Male userbase, some people on this site have discovered that they are transgender (viewing themselves as a female) and this has led to Female gaining percentage over the past several Male/Female polls. Transitioning from male to female is also more likely to occur as an adult (and we've got a very high average age as well).
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LusterSoldier
10/14/18 5:07:16 AM
#67:


Compared to the previous Character Battle, Bayonetta has made her debut on Nintendo systems through Smash Bros. (and the release of Bayonetta 2 on Wii U). Both games in the series have also been ported to the Switch (and the original Bayonetta is also on Wii U). Bayonetta 3 is also an upcoming game that will be exclusive to the Switch. After all that, Bayonetta should definitely be stronger compared to 2013.
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STElNER
10/14/18 5:19:04 AM
#68:


LusterSoldier posted...
I think a lot of this is because of our site's relatively static userbase (since the casual visitors aren't seeing the polls). As a result of this and because of our already high Male userbase, some people on this site have discovered that they are transgender (viewing themselves as a female) and this has led to Female gaining percentage over the past several Male/Female polls.


holy shit this is a take
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LusterSoldier
10/14/18 5:22:41 AM
#69:


For Squall/Zelda, I do have Zelda right now. I'm basing this on 2 factors - the registered user bonus and the potential of a boost from Breath of the Wild. Link is already a very iconic character in his own right and probably wouldn't get a boost from Breath of the Wild, where as the other Zelda characters are more likely to get a strength boost.
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LeonhartFour
10/14/18 6:02:07 AM
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LusterSoldier posted...
Link is already a very iconic character in his own right and probably wouldn't get a boost from Breath of the Wild


spoilers he absolutely will
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LeonhartFour
10/14/18 6:15:38 AM
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_SecretSquirrel posted...
And I'm crazy enough to do it with Mario, because by this point, Link will have been in like seven matches, and we will see that late contest weirdness, and I totally believe Mario could get 60-40ed in the Legends final, and then come back in a few days to put the Nintendo hierarchy on its head if he can clear the Snake/Cloud gauntlet.


man you think Nintendo is going to turn against Link in the finals? that is indeed a crazy take

Nintendo fans have proven time and time again on this site that they will bend over backwards to make sure Link wins, even if it means Mario gets destroyed.

like I said smart money is betting on Snake to run it back in the semis if you don't pick him to beat Mario the first time because I don't buy him fitting into the Nintendo hierarchy at all despite what yo and Ngamer say; the match with Samus in 2006 was weird but I don't think it was Nintendo putting Snake in his place; Samus had a couple of weird performances toward the end of the Female Bracket, but that was just because the Female Bracket was designed for her to dominate and people got bored of her dominating, like Sephiroth did in the Villains Contest and Bowser and Ganondorf clearly overperformed on him in the last two matches, but like in SC2K5, once there was real competition, that original strength returned; I think Snake's just straight up stronger than Samus now, so that won't matter

I wanted to say something along those lines there toward the end but I didn't get the chance so I'll say it now!

plus if you want to get crazy bet on Hayter in the finals
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shane15
10/14/18 6:24:27 AM
#72:


Yo pretty much saying what i said about Monika. I have her losing to Zero. But Zero is no heavyweight either and could easily fall.
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RoseChevalier
10/14/18 6:50:37 AM
#73:


LusterSoldier posted...
This site is only around 92% Male (not 95-97% like Leon is saying). Over the past several Male/Female polls, the Male percentage has dropped every single time. I think a lot of this is because of our site's relatively static userbase (since the casual visitors aren't seeing the polls). As a result of this and because of our already high Male userbase, some people on this site have discovered that they are transgender (viewing themselves as a female) and this has led to Female gaining percentage over the past several Male/Female polls. Transitioning from male to female is also more likely to occur as an adult (and we've got a very high average age as well).

the transes are gonna ruin the contest huh
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RoseChevalier
10/14/18 6:52:04 AM
#74:


this episode... guys... you're not Dan Carlin! Break this baby up into digestible meals!
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Lightning Strikes
10/14/18 6:53:25 AM
#75:


Listening now, great job guys.

There is something you didn't consider about Zidane/Knuckles though, and that's Sonic Mania. It's the best Sonic game in over a decade (since at least Rush) and even outsold the terrible 3D Sonic game that year. It revived the series somewhat. And it has a Knuckles&Knuckles mode. I'm still taking Zidane though.

I am a massive D.Va-sceptic. Overwatch tanked in 2016 and the Overwatch subreddit isn't THAT active (less active than say, the PS4 subreddit). Blizzard rallies have also failed to happen in the last several years despite repeated worries.

Regarding Undertale affecting Geralt/Rosalina, Undertale has a PC and RPG fanbase that will favour The Witcher, but also just came out on Switch and was #1 on the eshop. So it's probably a wash.
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shane15
10/14/18 7:32:18 AM
#76:


Listening to these guys not knowing anything about the Yakuza series is typical of this sites mentality.
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MariaTaylor
10/14/18 8:21:52 AM
#77:


STElNER posted...
LusterSoldier posted...
I think a lot of this is because of our site's relatively static userbase (since the casual visitors aren't seeing the polls). As a result of this and because of our already high Male userbase, some people on this site have discovered that they are transgender (viewing themselves as a female) and this has led to Female gaining percentage over the past several Male/Female polls.


holy shit this is a take


LOL

well we could come up with some kind of complicated explanation, such as "more female users started coming to gamefaqs." but why make such baseless conjecture when there's already such a simple explanation right in front of us?
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shane15
10/14/18 8:51:13 AM
#78:


If Squall loses to Zelda i'm done. Save us rallies.
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SwiftyDC
10/14/18 9:10:36 AM
#79:


I feel like the winner of Aqua/Quiet beats the winner of Ellie/KOS-MOS pretty easily.
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LeonhartFour
10/14/18 9:11:35 AM
#80:


RoseChevalier posted...
this episode... guys... you're not Dan Carlin! Break this baby up into digestible meals!


that's what the weekly episodes during the contest are for

by the time we have the next episode the contest will have started already so we've got to get the entire bracket preview in with this episode

Lightning Strikes posted...
There is something you didn't consider about Zidane/Knuckles though, and that's Sonic Mania.


I considered it. I don't know how much it helps someone everybody already knows, but I imagine it will help somewhat.

Lightning Strikes posted...
It's the best Sonic game in over a decade (since at least Rush)


what

shane15 posted...
Listening to these guys not knowing anything about the Yakuza series is typical of this sites mentality.


I'm sorry...?
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SwiftyDC
10/14/18 9:16:07 AM
#81:


Ng, Yo, Leon.. please play Persona 5.
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LeonhartFour
10/14/18 9:16:39 AM
#82:


SwiftyDC posted...
Ng, Yo, Leon.. please play Persona 5.


what gives you the impression I haven't

I brought up the Ren/Joker thing precisely because I have played Persona 5
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SwiftyDC
10/14/18 9:17:26 AM
#83:


And honestly, I love Persona 5 but I didn't hesitate to pick Claire. I don't like the name Ren Amamiya.... Akira Kurusu is so much better.

Joker or riot.
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SwiftyDC
10/14/18 9:18:13 AM
#84:


LeonhartFour posted...
SwiftyDC posted...
Ng, Yo, Leon.. please play Persona 5.


what gives you the impression I haven't

I brought up the Ren/Joker thing precisely because I have played Persona 5


Disregard then. Ng and Yo, I think you guys will really enjoy it.
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shane15
10/14/18 9:28:40 AM
#85:


It still amazes me that matches like Joker/Claire can be decided by a name or a match pic. Is the IQ of people voting in these contests that low they can't figure stuff like this out?
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ZenOfThunder
10/14/18 9:32:52 AM
#86:


shane15 posted...
It still amazes me that matches like Joker/Claire can be decided by a name or a match pic. Is the IQ of people voting in these contests that low they can't figure stuff like this out?


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haloiscoolisbak
10/14/18 9:40:18 AM
#87:


Really enjoyed this guys. Surprised you didn't touch on Vivi/Leon Kennedy though
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shane15
10/14/18 10:08:25 AM
#88:


ZenOfThunder posted...
shane15 posted...
It still amazes me that matches like Joker/Claire can be decided by a name or a match pic. Is the IQ of people voting in these contests that low they can't figure stuff like this out?


9GYsDaO
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But even with that infamous Vincent pic it still looks like him. I've just googled Joker and he looks exactly like the Persona 5 guy no matter how you look at it. Granted the new name could throw you off but i highly doubt it. I mean you've got 2 guys called Zero in the previous contest. Nobody is gonna mistake the Mega Man guy for the other one even if they are both just called Zero.
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SwiftyDC
10/14/18 10:13:39 AM
#89:


I think it's just the name Ren Amamiya. It was thought that his canon name was Akira Kurusu but then they changed it after the game had been out for a few months.

Joker is a better universally accepted name for the P5 protagonist, but I don't think it will matter much.
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MZero11
10/14/18 10:20:44 AM
#90:


SwiftyDC posted...
I think it's just the name Ren Amamiya. It was thought that his canon name was Akira Kurusu but then they changed it after the game had been out for a few months.


The exact same thing happened with Yu Narukami so I don't know why people were dumb and thought the manga name was canon this time
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SwiftyDC
10/14/18 10:24:47 AM
#91:


MZero11 posted...
SwiftyDC posted...
I think it's just the name Ren Amamiya. It was thought that his canon name was Akira Kurusu but then they changed it after the game had been out for a few months.


The exact same thing happened with Yu Narukami so I don't know why people were dumb and thought the manga name was canon this time


Persona 5 was the first in the series for me, never played any of the other ones. Call me dumb but idc, Akira > Ren.
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MZero11
10/14/18 10:28:33 AM
#92:


SwiftyDC posted...
MZero11 posted...
SwiftyDC posted...
I think it's just the name Ren Amamiya. It was thought that his canon name was Akira Kurusu but then they changed it after the game had been out for a few months.


The exact same thing happened with Yu Narukami so I don't know why people were dumb and thought the manga name was canon this time


Persona 5 was the first in the series for me, never played any of the other ones. Call me dumb but idc, Akira > Ren.


Sorry, didn't mean to call you dumb but the fanbase in general should have known better
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Averia
10/14/18 10:53:47 AM
#93:


I haven't listened to this episode yet, but I didn't recognize Ren as being the MC of Persona 5.
There will be a picture so this should mitigate the damage but it's still almost name sabotage.
Then again P5 is a recent game so it's not going like it would be that strong anyways.
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ZeldaTPLink
10/14/18 10:57:09 AM
#94:


I don't trust Allen to give him a fair name/pic. I recall there was something similar in Years where he just kept giving the years crappy pics which screwed up with brackets despite the board begging otherwise. And I could see there being a legal issue if he changed the name of a character between the bracket submission and the actual contest.
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ExThaNemesis
10/14/18 10:58:34 AM
#95:


Guys.

4 hours.

That's a bit excessive lol I'm gonna need like three days to listen to this all.
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ZeldaTPLink
10/14/18 11:00:43 AM
#96:


Well maybe he's likely to accept a fair pic while keeping the bad name.
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ZeldaTPLink
10/14/18 11:29:47 AM
#97:


Do match 1 pics get submitted by us or by Allen himself?
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ZenOfThunder
10/14/18 11:31:10 AM
#98:


at this point allen is probably just doing them all

he's a madman

128 characters total, 8 a day is tough for anybody
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ZeldaTPLink
10/14/18 12:16:42 PM
#99:


- Considers picking Zelda > Squall

- Realizes she's probably making it to Samus in Loser's Bracket if she wins here.

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ZeldaTPLink
10/14/18 12:19:01 PM
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I mean if Zelda beats Squall she muders Fox.

If she beats Squall then why can't she beat Auron?

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