Board 8 > Smash Ultimate Topic 4: Super Smash Brothers for Board 8

(+) Yeah! (+)

STOP! caps
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Hbthebattle posted...

This, this is pretty heavy.
##Unvote
I'm not really sure of anything now.

It's a total clusterfuck
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Once the "GO!" was announced everyone got chilled in different corners of the stage. Finally, a large group of players got active and started hitting everyone until 5 guys team up on Jedimess... When he was finally hit too hard he flew off the screen with a "Pika-pi-ka...." and then all that was heard was *ding*

Jedimess has been lynched! He was Pikachu, VETERAN Vanilla

Votals
Jedimess [5] - Chris, jombad46, (Ben), (Scare), Pendadragon, (Pirate), Scare, (Pirate), (HB), Ben
Scare [4] - (Chris), (Ben), (LoLo), Death, (Han), (FD), Doop, Terra, Han
Chris [3] - (Scare), (Sultan), (Han), Shonen, Lolo, Pirate
red13n [1] - (FD), (Chris), (Ben), (Shonen), (Han), (Lolo), (Sultan), (HB), FD, (Pirate)
Han [1] - (HB), Geno
Terra [1] - Sultan
Lolo [0] - (Han)
death [0] - (Ben), (Scare), (Pirate), (Ben)
FD [0] - (Scare)
geno [0] - (hombad46), (HB)
hombad46 [0] - (Sultan)

Programming notes: We've had two replaces already I don't want more. Please be nice. As I have adapted to mafia lately, "It's just a game."

Also, be aware that the stop is coming. I typically give a little wiggle room but don't take advantage of that. If I feel you are, I will modkill.

IT IS NOW NIGHT. AS ALWAYS THERE IS NO TALKING IN TOPIC AT NIGHT. ALL NIGHT ACTIONS ARE DUE AT 10PM EST 11/28/2018.
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After the death of Pikachu the action seemed to settle quickly and then at the last moment players flew off the screen. One exploded immediately and then other flew into a star.

DoomTheGyarados (Chris) has been killed! He was Captain Falcon, VETERAN 1-Shot Vigilante.
Red13n has been killed! He was He was Simon Belmont, NEWCOMER Vanilla.

15 Player Smash!
1. Benjamin3740
2. Hombad (Corrik)
3. Doopliss_Power
4. geno4smash
5. HanOfTheNekos
6. Hbthebattle
7. htaeD (Death)
8. Lolo_Guru
9. Pendragon71037
10. ScareChan
11. Forecful_Dragon
12. Pirate_Harris (Shad)
13. Shonen_Bat
14. Terra-enforcer
15. TheSultanOfSlam

Dead:
[LD1] Jedimess - Pikachu, VETERAN Vanilla
[NK1] DoomTheGyarados - Captain Falcon, VETERAN 1-Shot Vigilante
[NK1] red13n - Simon Belmont, NEWCOMER Vanilla

The game will resume in

3...

2...

1...

GO!
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Well, there goes literally everything I was going to do today.

sets up tent
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Well we just lost red and chris... I guess scare seems more like a lynch target now
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Maybe han and fd is scum... ugh I feel so dejected
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Oh. Thank God Chris was Town.

Geno, you need to claim immediately.

FD is good people.

Really mad that I didn't switch to Scare in time.

##Vote: Pendragon

Let's start here.
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Maybe han and fd is scum... ugh I feel so dejected

Red was Scum.
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I'll be reading chris's interactions to find a possible slip
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Well we just lost red and chris... I guess scare seems more like a lynch target now

Why? Chris was practically guaranteed to be targeted last night regardless of what he said on the first day. Looks like he Falcon Punched the scum that did it to him though
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Geno, you need to claim immediately.

As I recall, didn't he say he wouldn't remember his true role until the second night?
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hombad46 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

Well we just lost red and chris... I guess scare seems more like a lynch target now

Why? Chris was practically guaranteed to be targeted last night regardless of what he said on the first day. Looks like he Falcon Punched the scum that did it to him though

Oh I didn't realise red was scum... so newcomers are scum and veterans are town... i feel happy now
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hombad46 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Geno, you need to claim immediately.

As I recall, didn't he say he wouldn't remember his true role until the second night?

Oh, it wasn't just after first night?

Man, I do not buy that at all. Unless he's specifically a backup that takes the N1 target's role.
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red13n posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

If we are going inactive I say special terra
Terra has been inactive and content that was presented was very weak
##vote:terra

dude are you scum?

he is. I thought hes been obvious for awhile though.

Is this a slight bus on reds part?
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Pirate_Harris posted...

red13n posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

If we are going inactive I say special terra
Terra has been inactive and content that was presented was very weak
##vote:terra

dude are you scum?

he is. I thought hes been obvious for awhile though.

Is this a slight bus on reds part?

Very possibly.

Scare, let us know if you got a track off. And convince me you're not Scum.

Going to bed now. I'll try to find time to reread d1 and give real gutreads.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

This is dumb. I went with scare because Chris' guaran-damn-teed it.

If we aren't doing that then I'm going back to red. The only reason red was being spared was because of scare's train. Red has done nothing to deserve clemency.

Further Jedi's lynch will tell us nothing about the people voting for him, its just a whatever inactive lynch near the end of the day. If he isn't scum then it's actually pointless.

##unvote: scare
##vote: red

I like fd with this reasoning for staying on red and about jedi's
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

hombad46 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Geno, you need to claim immediately.

As I recall, didn't he say he wouldn't remember his true role until the second night?

Oh, it wasn't just after first night?

Man, I do not buy that at all. Unless he's specifically a backup that takes the N1 target's role.

I went and found the post, he should remember tomorrow

"I'm town drunk, I won't remember my role until night 2."
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Lolo is also a good direction, though I need to review his sheeping of chris
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Oh and I don't think Jedi knows he's dead. I saw him post in topic 3
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hombad46 posted...

Oh and I don't think Jedi knows he's dead. I saw him post in topic 3

I think he realised it as soon as he posted
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Ok its been two minutes and shit has already begun wow
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And yeah, Geno did say night 2.
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Lolo_Guru posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

Han's points on Chris make sense to me.

Jedi seems like a damn random endlynch for him.

##unvote
##vote: Chris

God, you just had to be the one person to do the one thing to make me second guess myself.

damn straight

"Oooh"
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Heres a brief pre written text of things that stood out to me as I finished catching up (mostly)
Wall of text incoming and Im assuming a lot of people will gloss over, but I think I pointed out several things that were just overlooked or very worth mentioning/reiterating upon.

Jedimess was a really silly lynch and its pretty frustrating that Chris of all people who claims to be so good at reading fell for the obvious scum out. Jedi made several obvious new player missteps and wasnt even here to defend himself so you chose him over Scare and red to lynch. After rereading through everything, I have no idea how Jedi comes across as more scummy than those two to begin with, but the fact that hes a new player with zero links to other players, and not even here to claim or defend himself makes that such a ridiculous choice to end on. The only times I have EVER seen a vote on someone who wasnt present to defend themselves actually work out have been times where the person of interest is known to be active normally, but comes across as lurking or intentionally coasting. More often than not its a risky bet.

Ben piggybacking off of Chris is definitely weird. I know Chris is more experienced, but never pegged Ben for the type to sheep so damn hard with giving so little input of his own. Though a scum Chris flip makes me think Ben would have to be town.

No one at all questioned Scares bandwagon vote. Dont know why.

Pirate_Harris posted...

hombad46 posted...

##vote: Jedimess

Now this I'm on board with

I wanna jump on this band wagon but I want Jedi to come back and clarify some stuff

Pirate_Harris posted...

Due to lack of Jedi and I hate when people become inactive asf.

##vote: Jedi

I wanna say that Jedi has been under my radar for a while and it's worrying when players do that. If you are town Jedi my deepest apologies

These posts were made within half an hour between each other. I get that it was close to EoD, but this just looks bad. If you voted him the first time it could have flown under the radar, but the fact that you attempted to veil your bandwagon as "giving him time" when you barely waited any is suspicious as hell.
If anything, a hombad vote would have come across as a lot more organic. Youre the only one who actually called him out for his blatant bandwagon vote, but didnt press him any further so he got away unscathed.

Then shortly after you hopped right on then right off Death along with Scare as if you had no autonomy to yourself. Stay committed whatever youre going to do my guy. Scare could be scum throwing around his vote wherever and you sheeped there almost as hard as ben has been with Chris.

Im not necessarily getting scum vibes from you, but Im not a fan of your plays here.
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Doop, Hb, Sultan, and Jedi (RIP) were my stronger town reads. Geno was a town read as well, but Im just confused by the following:

@geno4smash4 posted...

Town is not veterans.

geno4smash4 posted...

So yeah I think there has been a misunderstanding, I'm Ridley, my PM said Newcomer Veteran, I asked eaed what this meant and he told me it's honorary because of Ridley's boss status in previous games, idk how that makes any sense but whatever, might as well also claim, I'm town drunk, I won't remember my role until night 2.

???

Lolo, Shad, Pend, and Shonen are primed for isoing because I dont recall much of note from them. Red feels very uncharacteristic of himself this game. Feels like hes either off to a slow start or coasting hard right now.
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Another thing we need to do is find out what scare did last night, shouldn't he have been using shield on chris?
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benjamin3740 posted...

Out of time. Lets just eliminate the unknown

##Unvote

##Vote: Jedi

Very tunnel like thinking on bens part.. he just ninja'd the Jedi vote so he would be lynched
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Though a scum Chris flip makes me think Ben would have to be town.

Sorry, had to stop reading here 'cause Chris ain't scum
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Doop, Hb, Sultan, and Jedi (RIP) were my stronger town reads. Geno was a town read as well, but Im just confused by the following:

@geno4smash4 posted...

Town is not veterans.

geno4smash4 posted...

So yeah I think there has been a misunderstanding, I'm Ridley, my PM said Newcomer Veteran, I asked eaed what this meant and he told me it's honorary because of Ridley's boss status in previous games, idk how that makes any sense but whatever, might as well also claim, I'm town drunk, I won't remember my role until night 2.

???

Lolo, Shad, Pend, and Shonen are primed for isoing because I dont recall much of note from them. Red feels very uncharacteristic of himself this game. Feels like hes either off to a slow start or coasting hard right now.

I certainly can't speak for Geno, but I was also confused by Veteran for a moment too, as I'm more used to that name being the ToS equivalent of what mafiascumwiki calls the Paranoid Gun Owner. Is that its name here too?
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Chris's flip is a bummer. He weirded me out at the end of the day which made me distance myself from him, but wish I could have done more to help him.
Though Chris and red both being chosen probably means the scum team consists of a couple b8 players. Red of all people is a weird one since he didn't even participate much which reinforces that point because his death comes across as scum being weary of his later game performance if they knew he was town.

Chris flipping town makes me feel slightly better about sheepy-ben. Can't see scum sheeping that hard then choosing that as the first night kill.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Chris's flip is a bummer. He weirded me out at the end of the day which made me distance myself from him, but wish I could have done more to help him.
Though Chris and red both being chosen probably means the scum team consists of a couple b8 players. Red of all people is a weird one since he didn't even participate much which reinforces that point because his death comes across as scum being weary of his later game performance if they knew he was town.

Chris flipping town makes me feel slightly better about sheepy-ben. Can't see scum sheeping that hard then choosing that as the first night kill.

Red was a newcomer, not a veteran. I think Chris probably used his power on him last night and Newcomer is the scum flavor name after all.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Heres a brief pre written text of things that stood out to me as I finished catching up (mostly)
Wall of text incoming and Im assuming a lot of people will gloss over, but I think I pointed out several things that were just overlooked or very worth mentioning/reiterating upon.

Jedimess was a really silly lynch and its pretty frustrating that Chris of all people who claims to be so good at reading fell for the obvious scum out. Jedi made several obvious new player missteps and wasnt even here to defend himself so you chose him over Scare and red to lynch. After rereading through everything, I have no idea how Jedi comes across as more scummy than those two to begin with, but the fact that hes a new player with zero links to other players, and not even here to claim or defend himself makes that such a ridiculous choice to end on. The only times I have EVER seen a vote on someone who wasnt present to defend themselves actually work out have been times where the person of interest is known to be active normally, but comes across as lurking or intentionally coasting. More often than not its a risky bet.

Ben piggybacking off of Chris is definitely weird. I know Chris is more experienced, but never pegged Ben for the type to sheep so damn hard with giving so little input of his own. Though a scum Chris flip makes me think Ben would have to be town.

No one at all questioned Scares bandwagon vote. Dont know why.

Pirate_Harris posted...

hombad46 posted...

##vote: Jedimess

Now this I'm on board with

I wanna jump on this band wagon but I want Jedi to come back and clarify some stuff

Pirate_Harris posted...

Due to lack of Jedi and I hate when people become inactive asf.

##vote: Jedi

I wanna say that Jedi has been under my radar for a while and it's worrying when players do that. If you are town Jedi my deepest apologies

These posts were made within half an hour between each other. I get that it was close to EoD, but this just looks bad. If you voted him the first time it could have flown under the radar, but the fact that you attempted to veil your bandwagon as "giving him time" when you barely waited any is suspicious as hell.
If anything, a hombad vote would have come across as a lot more organic. Youre the only one who actually called him out for his blatant bandwagon vote, but didnt press him any further so he got away unscathed.

Then shortly after you hopped right on then right off Death along with Scare as if you had no autonomy to yourself. Stay committed whatever youre going to do my guy. Scare could be scum throwing around his vote wherever and you sheeped there almost as hard as ben has been with Chris.

Im not necessarily getting scum vibes from you, but Im not a fan of your plays here.

I'll admit, I was flip flopping all over the place near the EOD... that does look bad anyway you look at... i realised that the Jedi vote was just a scum trap but it was only after I voted which I realised my mistake.
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Hbthebattle posted...

I certainly can't speak for Geno, but I was also confused by Veteran for a moment too, as I'm more used to that name being the ToS equivalent of what mafiascumwiki calls the Paranoid Gun Owner. Is that its name here too?

Not at all. That's exclusively a ToS name. Mafiascum and most other boards it's more akin to the Paranoid gun owner role.
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hombad46 posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Though a scum Chris flip makes me think Ben would have to be town.

Sorry, had to stop reading here 'cause Chris ain't scum

If you did manage to read even the first few words I posted:
Heres a brief pre written text

I was making notes and a write up as I was catching up since I was so behind.
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Wait, if Chris was the vig and he shot red, that means he was lying about thinking red wasn't really scum after all
I just don't get it.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

hombad46 posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Though a scum Chris flip makes me think Ben would have to be town.

Sorry, had to stop reading here 'cause Chris ain't scum

If you did manage to read even the first few words I posted:
Heres a brief pre written text

I was making notes and a write up as I was catching up since I was so behind.

Oh, sorry. Either way, you should probably check the results and take out parts of pre written texts that are no longer correct.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Doop, Hb, Sultan, and Jedi (RIP) were my stronger town reads. Geno was a town read as well, but Im just confused by the following:

@geno4smash4 posted...

Town is not veterans.

geno4smash4 posted...

So yeah I think there has been a misunderstanding, I'm Ridley, my PM said Newcomer Veteran, I asked eaed what this meant and he told me it's honorary because of Ridley's boss status in previous games, idk how that makes any sense but whatever, might as well also claim, I'm town drunk, I won't remember my role until night 2.

???

Lolo, Shad, Pend, and Shonen are primed for isoing because I dont recall much of note from them. Red feels very uncharacteristic of himself this game. Feels like hes either off to a slow start or coasting hard right now.

I'm sorry but did he just confirm that he is scum right then and there? Because if not my eyes need to be checked
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Hbthebattle posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Chris's flip is a bummer. He weirded me out at the end of the day which made me distance myself from him, but wish I could have done more to help him.
Though Chris and red both being chosen probably means the scum team consists of a couple b8 players. Red of all people is a weird one since he didn't even participate much which reinforces that point because his death comes across as scum being weary of his later game performance if they knew he was town.

Chris flipping town makes me feel slightly better about sheepy-ben. Can't see scum sheeping that hard then choosing that as the first night kill.

Red was a newcomer, not a veteran. I think Chris probably used his power on him last night and Newcomer is the scum flavor name after all.

I read the newcomer flavor, but I guess that didn't occur to me. Definitely one of the weirder flavors, but a scum Red makes a lot more sense to me than him being town.
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hombad46 posted...

Oh, sorry. Either way, you should probably check the results and take out parts of pre written texts that are no longer correct.

I took out some bits, but there were bound to be some remnants from before hand. But I understand your confusion.
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red13n posted...

Also we arent lynching death hes not here.

Maybe tomorrow, but not today.

So this suggests that death is a possible scumbuddy with red...
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Pirate_Harris posted...

red13n posted...

Also we arent lynching death hes not here.

Maybe tomorrow, but not today.

So this suggests that death is a possible scumbuddy with red...

He was a prime player I was alluding to with the "b8 player" comment. He was one of my more town leaning players day 1, but the Chris flip puts things more into perspective. ISO'ing Red and Death seems like a thread that could lead to a lot of info.

I don't have the time for it tonight, but I can try to go for it tomorrow.
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Nice catch Harris. Also, I think we should look at who voted for him and guess who might've been trying to bus

red13n [1] - (FD), (Chris), (Ben), (Shonen), (Han), (Lolo), (Sultan), (HB), FD, (Pirate)
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Is ISO'ing the same as doing the "special" thing from yesterday?
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Definitely need to hear more from @geno4smash4 and whatever is going on with that weird claim of his. But for now

##Vote: Scare

Still don't feel good about him, and his behavior after the Jedi counter lynch started happening was very off putting to say the least.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Is ISO'ing the same as doing the "special" thing from yesterday?

Here's the definition of ISOing from the mafiawiki

"ISO is short for isolation, the set of a single player's posts with all other players' posts ignored. The process of looking at a user's ISO is therefore the process of looking at their posts by themselves out of context. "
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Hbthebattle posted...

Is ISO'ing the same as doing the "special" thing from yesterday?

Nah it's just singling out a single user's posts to get an idea of their behaviors. Especially given the current hindsight logic such as voting patterns and how their actions correlate with those who flipped.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=ISO
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