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Terra-enforcer
11/28/18 11:57:52 PM
#252:


Pirate_Harris posted...
hombad46 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Why would scum waste a kill on chris


How is targeting Mr "top 5 in the world at town" a waste?

Because a jack with a doc save trumps player ability imo

Already explained this above, but a mere one shot doc save isn't going to do as much damage in the long run as much as a very active player would have done. Especially when said one shotter already looks bad by town standards.
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Hbthebattle
11/28/18 11:58:19 PM
#253:


Alright, Terra, if you were scum, would you go for Chris or for Scare given day 1 information?
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Pirate_Harris
11/28/18 11:59:04 PM
#254:


Terra-enforcer posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Did you track chris or death scare?

Not sure if you're not familiar with the roles, but the only way he would know Death is at fault here is if he tracked Death. Tracking Chris would lead him to red or whoever Chris tried to target. You might be thinking of Watcher.

Maybe I am... all I know is, chris is dead and he was town, red is scum and scare is still alive and had not been roleblocked
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:00:32 AM
#255:


ScareChan posted...
What?

Dude you send an action each night regardless man. You dont just say "Well I am going to die or get blocked so I shouldnt submit an action"

Pirate you have played enough to know how things work now dude, AND you know the Chris/Red dynamic. How you are so hung up that Red killed POWER CLAIMED CHRIS is really just starting to look like you are protecting Death here

I'm not protecting death scare. I'm trying to figure out why you were not roleblocked...
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:02:33 AM
#256:


Terra-enforcer posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
hombad46 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Why would scum waste a kill on chris


How is targeting Mr "top 5 in the world at town" a waste?

Because a jack with a doc save trumps player ability imo

Already explained this above, but a mere one shot doc save isn't going to do as much damage in the long run as much as a very active player would have done. Especially when said one shotter already looks bad by town standards.

I see... so even if scare was a viable target, chris is still a way bigger in comparison
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Hbthebattle
11/29/18 12:03:08 AM
#257:


Pirate_Harris posted...
ScareChan posted...
What?

Dude you send an action each night regardless man. You dont just say "Well I am going to die or get blocked so I shouldnt submit an action"

Pirate you have played enough to know how things work now dude, AND you know the Chris/Red dynamic. How you are so hung up that Red killed POWER CLAIMED CHRIS is really just starting to look like you are protecting Death here

I'm not protecting death scare. I'm trying to figure out why you were not roleblocked...

Wouldn't the obvious answer be that scum has no roleblocker?
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Terra-enforcer
11/29/18 12:04:09 AM
#258:


Hbthebattle posted...
Alright, Terra, if you were scum, would you go for Chris or for Scare given day 1 information?

I mean I already implied as much, but Chris. Jack with Scare's supposed moveset isn't worth worrying too much about unless he's hiding some other abilities (which seems doubtful), and Scare would be an easy push for a mislynch if I was scum who knew he was town. Jack is a rather safe claim. Plus there's a chance that Chris was also a pr of some kind (which he was), and I feel like he hinted as much at one point, but I'd have to go back and check to see if memory serves me.
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Hbthebattle
11/29/18 12:04:53 AM
#259:


Terra-enforcer posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Alright, Terra, if you were scum, would you go for Chris or for Scare given day 1 information?

I mean I already implied as much, but Chris. Jack with Scare's supposed moveset isn't worth worrying too much about unless he's hiding some other abilities (which seems doubtful), and Scare would be an easy push for a mislynch if I was scum who knew he was town. Jack is a rather safe claim. Plus there's a chance that Chris was also a pr of some kind (which he was), and I feel like he hinted as much at one point, but I'd have to go back and check to see if memory serves me.

He claimed power, yeah.
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:05:18 AM
#260:


Hbthebattle posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
ScareChan posted...
What?

Dude you send an action each night regardless man. You dont just say "Well I am going to die or get blocked so I shouldnt submit an action"

Pirate you have played enough to know how things work now dude, AND you know the Chris/Red dynamic. How you are so hung up that Red killed POWER CLAIMED CHRIS is really just starting to look like you are protecting Death here

I'm not protecting death scare. I'm trying to figure out why you were not roleblocked...

Wouldn't the obvious answer be that scum has no roleblocker?

Then if that's the case, what powers would scum have then?
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Pendragon71037
11/29/18 12:06:02 AM
#261:


Pirate_Harris posted...
ScareChan posted...
What?

Dude you send an action each night regardless man. You dont just say "Well I am going to die or get blocked so I shouldnt submit an action"

Pirate you have played enough to know how things work now dude, AND you know the Chris/Red dynamic. How you are so hung up that Red killed POWER CLAIMED CHRIS is really just starting to look like you are protecting Death here

I'm not protecting death scare. I'm trying to figure out why you were not roleblocked...

Who knows, man. Maybe Scum doesn't have a Roleblocker this time around. Maybe they (somehow) ascertained that someone else has a power and blocked them instead. Maybe, like you, they figured Scare would try to protect Chris, so it didn't even matter and it was more important to not let Town know what powers they had. (this last one does require them to have that unblockable shot, but Terra said that's pretty common around here).
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hombad46
11/29/18 12:06:20 AM
#262:


Hbthebattle posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Alright, Terra, if you were scum, would you go for Chris or for Scare given day 1 information?

I mean I already implied as much, but Chris. Jack with Scare's supposed moveset isn't worth worrying too much about unless he's hiding some other abilities (which seems doubtful), and Scare would be an easy push for a mislynch if I was scum who knew he was town. Jack is a rather safe claim. Plus there's a chance that Chris was also a pr of some kind (which he was), and I feel like he hinted as much at one point, but I'd have to go back and check to see if memory serves me.

He claimed power, yeah.

Even if he hadn't, Jedi turned out to be a vanilla, which would've decreased the odds of Chris being vanilla
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Terra-enforcer
11/29/18 12:07:27 AM
#263:


Hbthebattle posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
ScareChan posted...
What?

Dude you send an action each night regardless man. You dont just say "Well I am going to die or get blocked so I shouldnt submit an action"

Pirate you have played enough to know how things work now dude, AND you know the Chris/Red dynamic. How you are so hung up that Red killed POWER CLAIMED CHRIS is really just starting to look like you are protecting Death here

I'm not protecting death scare. I'm trying to figure out why you were not roleblocked...

Wouldn't the obvious answer be that scum has no roleblocker?

I wouldn't say it's obvious. Targeting a claimed jack with a roleblock would definitely be a good move, but hard to count its existence out entirely this early into the game. If Geno was town he'd also be a good target to make him look worse considering how botched his claim seems as is.
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Hbthebattle
11/29/18 12:07:31 AM
#264:


How many vanilla townies are there in an average game like this?
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Terra-enforcer
11/29/18 12:08:46 AM
#265:


hombad46 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Alright, Terra, if you were scum, would you go for Chris or for Scare given day 1 information?

I mean I already implied as much, but Chris. Jack with Scare's supposed moveset isn't worth worrying too much about unless he's hiding some other abilities (which seems doubtful), and Scare would be an easy push for a mislynch if I was scum who knew he was town. Jack is a rather safe claim. Plus there's a chance that Chris was also a pr of some kind (which he was), and I feel like he hinted as much at one point, but I'd have to go back and check to see if memory serves me.

He claimed power, yeah.

Even if he hadn't, Jedi turned out to be a vanilla, which would've decreased the odds of Chris being vanilla

lol no that's not how this works. In a non role madness game the power split is entirely dependent upon the host. Generally most town players are vanilla in regular split games.
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ScareChan
11/29/18 12:09:09 AM
#266:


I think its more likely that they tried to kill me too

which could be why Pirate came out trying to discredit me right away
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ScareChan
11/29/18 12:09:55 AM
#267:


chris literally claimed power
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Terra-enforcer
11/29/18 12:09:56 AM
#268:


Pirate_Harris posted...
Then if that's the case, what powers would scum have then?

Let's not go down that rabbit hole. It's a waste of time since it's just mindless speculation. And again, don't count out roleblocker after one freaking night in the game lol.
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:10:10 AM
#269:


Pendragon71037 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
ScareChan posted...
What?

Dude you send an action each night regardless man. You dont just say "Well I am going to die or get blocked so I shouldnt submit an action"

Pirate you have played enough to know how things work now dude, AND you know the Chris/Red dynamic. How you are so hung up that Red killed POWER CLAIMED CHRIS is really just starting to look like you are protecting Death here

I'm not protecting death scare. I'm trying to figure out why you were not roleblocked...

Who knows, man. Maybe Scum doesn't have a Roleblocker this time around. Maybe they (somehow) ascertained that someone else has a power and blocked them instead. Maybe, like you, they figured Scare would try to protect Chris, so it didn't even matter and it was more important to not let Town know what powers they had. (this last one does require them to have that unblockable shot, but Terra said that's pretty common around here).

Ok so if scum doesn't have a roleblocker, than realistically what powers would scum have to circumvent that obstacle? Chris didn't outright claimed power because red just said that a smug chris probably has a power. In the games I was in, I never saw an unblockable shot... maybe a ninja but not unblockable
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Hbthebattle
11/29/18 12:13:44 AM
#270:


Pirate_Harris posted...
Pendragon71037 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
ScareChan posted...
What?

Dude you send an action each night regardless man. You dont just say "Well I am going to die or get blocked so I shouldnt submit an action"

Pirate you have played enough to know how things work now dude, AND you know the Chris/Red dynamic. How you are so hung up that Red killed POWER CLAIMED CHRIS is really just starting to look like you are protecting Death here

I'm not protecting death scare. I'm trying to figure out why you were not roleblocked...

Who knows, man. Maybe Scum doesn't have a Roleblocker this time around. Maybe they (somehow) ascertained that someone else has a power and blocked them instead. Maybe, like you, they figured Scare would try to protect Chris, so it didn't even matter and it was more important to not let Town know what powers they had. (this last one does require them to have that unblockable shot, but Terra said that's pretty common around here).

Ok so if scum doesn't have a roleblocker, than realistically what powers would scum have to circumvent that obstacle? Chris didn't outright claimed power because red just said that a smug chris probably has a power. In the games I was in, I never saw an unblockable shot... maybe a ninja but not unblockable

Chris literally claimed power to try to call out Scare for not having the right format
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:14:36 AM
#271:


ScareChan posted...
I think its more likely that they tried to kill me too

which could be why Pirate came out trying to discredit me right away

I never laid a single vote towards you all of day 1. I didn't think you were scum at first and defended your actions while you were away. When chris went on Jedi, you and a lot of people jumped on Jedi (me included)... the failed special attempt was weird in that it was so short like in the same page... I find you to be sus purely from escaping a mislynch which was bad no matter how you look at it. This isn't discredit scare, I want to figure out what the hell happened
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:15:23 AM
#272:


Could someone show me the post where chris claimed?
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hombad46
11/29/18 12:15:43 AM
#273:


Terra-enforcer posted...
hombad46 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Alright, Terra, if you were scum, would you go for Chris or for Scare given day 1 information?

I mean I already implied as much, but Chris. Jack with Scare's supposed moveset isn't worth worrying too much about unless he's hiding some other abilities (which seems doubtful), and Scare would be an easy push for a mislynch if I was scum who knew he was town. Jack is a rather safe claim. Plus there's a chance that Chris was also a pr of some kind (which he was), and I feel like he hinted as much at one point, but I'd have to go back and check to see if memory serves me.

He claimed power, yeah.

Even if he hadn't, Jedi turned out to be a vanilla, which would've decreased the odds of Chris being vanilla

lol no that's not how this works. In a non role madness game the power split is entirely dependent upon the host. Generally most town players are vanilla in regular split games.


Assuming X amount of vanillas among the town, before any are revealed the odds of any one person in the town being vanilla are X/town. Revealing a town would make that X-1 / town-1, which will be less than it was before.

That looks right to me, but it has been a while since I took a probability course
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hombad46
11/29/18 12:17:11 AM
#274:


"Revealing a town" should be "Revealing a vanilla"
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:17:16 AM
#275:


Besides why isn't ben here as he was one of the people who ninja'd a vote on Jedi in the last second
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hombad46
11/29/18 12:18:29 AM
#276:


Pirate_Harris posted...
Pendragon71037 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
ScareChan posted...
What?

Dude you send an action each night regardless man. You dont just say "Well I am going to die or get blocked so I shouldnt submit an action"

Pirate you have played enough to know how things work now dude, AND you know the Chris/Red dynamic. How you are so hung up that Red killed POWER CLAIMED CHRIS is really just starting to look like you are protecting Death here

I'm not protecting death scare. I'm trying to figure out why you were not roleblocked...

Who knows, man. Maybe Scum doesn't have a Roleblocker this time around. Maybe they (somehow) ascertained that someone else has a power and blocked them instead. Maybe, like you, they figured Scare would try to protect Chris, so it didn't even matter and it was more important to not let Town know what powers they had. (this last one does require them to have that unblockable shot, but Terra said that's pretty common around here).

Ok so if scum doesn't have a roleblocker, than realistically what powers would scum have to circumvent that obstacle? Chris didn't outright claimed power because red just said that a smug chris probably has a power. In the games I was in, I never saw an unblockable shot... maybe a ninja but not unblockable

Terra and Scare both say that strongman (unblockable shot) is a common role
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Terra-enforcer
11/29/18 12:18:34 AM
#277:


hombad46 posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
hombad46 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Alright, Terra, if you were scum, would you go for Chris or for Scare given day 1 information?

I mean I already implied as much, but Chris. Jack with Scare's supposed moveset isn't worth worrying too much about unless he's hiding some other abilities (which seems doubtful), and Scare would be an easy push for a mislynch if I was scum who knew he was town. Jack is a rather safe claim. Plus there's a chance that Chris was also a pr of some kind (which he was), and I feel like he hinted as much at one point, but I'd have to go back and check to see if memory serves me.

He claimed power, yeah.

Even if he hadn't, Jedi turned out to be a vanilla, which would've decreased the odds of Chris being vanilla

lol no that's not how this works. In a non role madness game the power split is entirely dependent upon the host. Generally most town players are vanilla in regular split games.


Assuming X amount of vanillas among the town, before any are revealed the odds of any one person in the town being vanilla are X/town. Revealing a town would make that X-1 / town-1, which will be less than it was before.

That looks right to me, but it has been a while since I took a probability course

If you mean straight mathematically, of course. But Power Roles are far more infrequent, so you're saying that the scum team would risk a massive gamble for the sole purpose of targeting PR, which I'm saying is the wrong way to think about it. Out of 13-14 town players, it's generally not the best option to rely on probability alone when making a night shot when there's so many other actual logic based pathways available.
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:18:44 AM
#278:


Which saved scare from being lynched in the process and didn't cause a tie
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:19:48 AM
#279:


hombad46 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Pendragon71037 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
ScareChan posted...
What?

Dude you send an action each night regardless man. You dont just say "Well I am going to die or get blocked so I shouldnt submit an action"

Pirate you have played enough to know how things work now dude, AND you know the Chris/Red dynamic. How you are so hung up that Red killed POWER CLAIMED CHRIS is really just starting to look like you are protecting Death here

I'm not protecting death scare. I'm trying to figure out why you were not roleblocked...

Who knows, man. Maybe Scum doesn't have a Roleblocker this time around. Maybe they (somehow) ascertained that someone else has a power and blocked them instead. Maybe, like you, they figured Scare would try to protect Chris, so it didn't even matter and it was more important to not let Town know what powers they had. (this last one does require them to have that unblockable shot, but Terra said that's pretty common around here).

Ok so if scum doesn't have a roleblocker, than realistically what powers would scum have to circumvent that obstacle? Chris didn't outright claimed power because red just said that a smug chris probably has a power. In the games I was in, I never saw an unblockable shot... maybe a ninja but not unblockable

Terra and Scare both say that strongman (unblockable shot) is a common role

Well is it a one shot or not?
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Terra-enforcer
11/29/18 12:20:17 AM
#280:


And can we please stop with the speculation on scum roles? Like I said, it's a waste of time unless one of you wants to come clean and tell us you scanned someone or you're part of the scum team and feel like being generous. We don't know how many scum players are left, and we don't know what their roles are. Mindless speculation on day 2 isn't going to get us anywhere.
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Hbthebattle
11/29/18 12:20:22 AM
#281:


Pirate_Harris posted...
Could someone show me the post where chris claimed?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77245647/913149666
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hombad46
11/29/18 12:20:28 AM
#282:


Pirate_Harris posted...
hombad46 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Pendragon71037 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
ScareChan posted...
What?

Dude you send an action each night regardless man. You dont just say "Well I am going to die or get blocked so I shouldnt submit an action"

Pirate you have played enough to know how things work now dude, AND you know the Chris/Red dynamic. How you are so hung up that Red killed POWER CLAIMED CHRIS is really just starting to look like you are protecting Death here

I'm not protecting death scare. I'm trying to figure out why you were not roleblocked...

Who knows, man. Maybe Scum doesn't have a Roleblocker this time around. Maybe they (somehow) ascertained that someone else has a power and blocked them instead. Maybe, like you, they figured Scare would try to protect Chris, so it didn't even matter and it was more important to not let Town know what powers they had. (this last one does require them to have that unblockable shot, but Terra said that's pretty common around here).

Ok so if scum doesn't have a roleblocker, than realistically what powers would scum have to circumvent that obstacle? Chris didn't outright claimed power because red just said that a smug chris probably has a power. In the games I was in, I never saw an unblockable shot... maybe a ninja but not unblockable

Terra and Scare both say that strongman (unblockable shot) is a common role

Well is it a one shot or not?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Strongman According to this article, it's usually limited use.
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Terra-enforcer
11/29/18 12:20:54 AM
#283:


Pirate_Harris posted...
hombad46 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Pendragon71037 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
ScareChan posted...
What?

Dude you send an action each night regardless man. You dont just say "Well I am going to die or get blocked so I shouldnt submit an action"

Pirate you have played enough to know how things work now dude, AND you know the Chris/Red dynamic. How you are so hung up that Red killed POWER CLAIMED CHRIS is really just starting to look like you are protecting Death here

I'm not protecting death scare. I'm trying to figure out why you were not roleblocked...

Who knows, man. Maybe Scum doesn't have a Roleblocker this time around. Maybe they (somehow) ascertained that someone else has a power and blocked them instead. Maybe, like you, they figured Scare would try to protect Chris, so it didn't even matter and it was more important to not let Town know what powers they had. (this last one does require them to have that unblockable shot, but Terra said that's pretty common around here).

Ok so if scum doesn't have a roleblocker, than realistically what powers would scum have to circumvent that obstacle? Chris didn't outright claimed power because red just said that a smug chris probably has a power. In the games I was in, I never saw an unblockable shot... maybe a ninja but not unblockable

Terra and Scare both say that strongman (unblockable shot) is a common role

Well is it a one shot or not?

usually one shot, yes
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:25:04 AM
#284:


Scare to fully convince my decision on you, answer these three questions.

Seeing as chris was killed, who is a viable lynch target?

If you tracked death, why did you say that red killed chris and not death?

Are you going to heal someone tonight, if yes then who?
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:26:17 AM
#285:


Hbthebattle posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Could someone show me the post where chris claimed?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77245647/913149666

Alright so that's a soft power claim...
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:27:07 AM
#286:


Terra-enforcer posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
hombad46 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Pendragon71037 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
ScareChan posted...
What?

Dude you send an action each night regardless man. You dont just say "Well I am going to die or get blocked so I shouldnt submit an action"

Pirate you have played enough to know how things work now dude, AND you know the Chris/Red dynamic. How you are so hung up that Red killed POWER CLAIMED CHRIS is really just starting to look like you are protecting Death here

I'm not protecting death scare. I'm trying to figure out why you were not roleblocked...

Who knows, man. Maybe Scum doesn't have a Roleblocker this time around. Maybe they (somehow) ascertained that someone else has a power and blocked them instead. Maybe, like you, they figured Scare would try to protect Chris, so it didn't even matter and it was more important to not let Town know what powers they had. (this last one does require them to have that unblockable shot, but Terra said that's pretty common around here).

Ok so if scum doesn't have a roleblocker, than realistically what powers would scum have to circumvent that obstacle? Chris didn't outright claimed power because red just said that a smug chris probably has a power. In the games I was in, I never saw an unblockable shot... maybe a ninja but not unblockable

Terra and Scare both say that strongman (unblockable shot) is a common role

Well is it a one shot or not?

usually one shot, yes

Ah that's a relief.
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Hbthebattle
11/29/18 12:29:21 AM
#287:


Wait, Pirate, wasn't it that Chris killed Red, not the other way around
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:30:20 AM
#288:


Hbthebattle posted...
Wait, Pirate, wasn't it that Chris killed Red, not the other way around

So then why would scare say that red killed chris baised on their dynamic
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ScareChan
11/29/18 12:30:43 AM
#289:


Pirate_Harris posted...
ScareChan posted...
I think its more likely that they tried to kill me too

which could be why Pirate came out trying to discredit me right away

I never laid a single vote towards you all of day 1. I didn't think you were scum at first and defended your actions while you were away. When chris went on Jedi, you and a lot of people jumped on Jedi (me included)... the failed special attempt was weird in that it was so short like in the same page... I find you to be sus purely from escaping a mislynch which was bad no matter how you look at it. This isn't discredit scare, I want to figure out what the hell happened


Its called "Shit my wife is going to kill me if I dont leave right now and I cant leave a vote on Death without support because it could literally lead to my death if it gets no support in my absense so I have to stay on Jedi for self preservation"

I outlined this before I left
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:31:32 AM
#290:


ScareChan posted...
What?

Dude you send an action each night regardless man. You dont just say "Well I am going to die or get blocked so I shouldnt submit an action"

Pirate you have played enough to know how things work now dude, AND you know the Chris/Red dynamic. How you are so hung up that Red killed POWER CLAIMED CHRIS is really just starting to look like you are protecting Death here

What's this?
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Terra-enforcer
11/29/18 12:32:06 AM
#291:


Pirate_Harris posted...
Scare to fully convince my decision on you, answer these three questions.

Seeing as chris was killed, who is a viable lynch target?

If you tracked death, why did you say that red killed chris and not death?

Are you going to heal someone tonight, if yes then who?

That's not what happened. The current theory is that death targeted chris, and chris targeted red. I'm really confused as to how you missed the crux of Scare's position right now.
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ScareChan
11/29/18 12:34:17 AM
#292:


Pirate_Harris posted...
Scare to fully convince my decision on you, answer these three questions.

Seeing as chris was killed, who is a viable lynch target?

If you tracked death, why did you say that red killed chris and not death?

Are you going to heal someone tonight, if yes then who?


Death is the right lynch

if Red is scum he is always the head honcho. He is confirmed scum and he is the strongest scum player regardless of who else his teammates are since Chris is confirmed town. Red has final say so.

Why on earth would I give that information
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ScareChan
11/29/18 12:35:12 AM
#293:


Terra-enforcer posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Scare to fully convince my decision on you, answer these three questions.

Seeing as chris was killed, who is a viable lynch target?

If you tracked death, why did you say that red killed chris and not death?

Are you going to heal someone tonight, if yes then who?

That's not what happened. The current theory is that death targeted chris, and chris targeted red. I'm really confused as to how you missed the crux of Scare's position right now.


he is saying because I said Red killed Chris because Red is obviously the scum leader and he isnt understanding context at all right now
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:35:45 AM
#294:


ScareChan posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
ScareChan posted...
I think its more likely that they tried to kill me too

which could be why Pirate came out trying to discredit me right away

I never laid a single vote towards you all of day 1. I didn't think you were scum at first and defended your actions while you were away. When chris went on Jedi, you and a lot of people jumped on Jedi (me included)... the failed special attempt was weird in that it was so short like in the same page... I find you to be sus purely from escaping a mislynch which was bad no matter how you look at it. This isn't discredit scare, I want to figure out what the hell happened


Its called "Shit my wife is going to kill me if I dont leave right now and I cant leave a vote on Death without support because it could literally lead to my death if it gets no support in my absense so I have to stay on Jedi for self preservation"

I outlined this before I left

So you stayed for self preservation, you had 6 guys on you and you claim self preservation?! I defended your lack of actions to chris, I defended your weird claim, but since you didn't want to die, you go after an inactive lynch which wouldn't help town one bit...
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:37:41 AM
#295:


Terra-enforcer posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Scare to fully convince my decision on you, answer these three questions.

Seeing as chris was killed, who is a viable lynch target?

If you tracked death, why did you say that red killed chris and not death?

Are you going to heal someone tonight, if yes then who?

That's not what happened. The current theory is that death targeted chris, and chris targeted red. I'm really confused as to how you missed the crux of Scare's position right now.

I don't know... look I'm feeling drowsy from staying up so late... maybe I need to get some rest and refresh my brain... I'm throwing theories all over the place right now...
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ScareChan
11/29/18 12:38:10 AM
#296:


oh my god Pirate

i tried to lynch death over jedi

when I had no time to see that through I lynched jedi because I know I am town and I didnt know Jedi was

what the fuck are you on dude you KNOW what self preservation is, you have been in end of day lynches come on dude I am going back and forth with you here but you are really like being dense right now
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:38:46 AM
#297:


ScareChan posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Scare to fully convince my decision on you, answer these three questions.

Seeing as chris was killed, who is a viable lynch target?

If you tracked death, why did you say that red killed chris and not death?

Are you going to heal someone tonight, if yes then who?


Death is the right lynch

if Red is scum he is always the head honcho. He is confirmed scum and he is the strongest scum player regardless of who else his teammates are since Chris is confirmed town. Red has final say so.

Why on earth would I give that information

Hmmm I'll review these answers in the morning
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hombad46
11/29/18 12:38:48 AM
#298:


Pirate, you yourself were saying that the role Scare claimed is powerful. If hes telling the truth, would it not be beneficial to the town for him to sacrifice an inactive to keep himself alive?
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ScareChan
11/29/18 12:38:50 AM
#299:


Pirate_Harris posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Scare to fully convince my decision on you, answer these three questions.

Seeing as chris was killed, who is a viable lynch target?

If you tracked death, why did you say that red killed chris and not death?

Are you going to heal someone tonight, if yes then who?

That's not what happened. The current theory is that death targeted chris, and chris targeted red. I'm really confused as to how you missed the crux of Scare's position right now.

I don't know... look I'm feeling drowsy from staying up so late... maybe I need to get some rest and refresh my brain... I'm throwing theories all over the place right now...


Please get some sleep because when you wake up and reread you will see that you are just a bit off right now

or you are scum so
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ScareChan
11/29/18 12:40:07 AM
#300:


Pirate you were just scum with Red which is why you are really confusing me and making me just think you are scum protecting death here
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Pirate_Harris
11/29/18 12:40:24 AM
#301:


ScareChan posted...
oh my god Pirate

i tried to lynch death over jedi

when I had no time to see that through I lynched jedi because I know I am town and I didnt know Jedi was

what the fuck are you on dude you KNOW what self preservation is, you have been in end of day lynches come on dude I am going back and forth with you here but you are really like being dense right now

I'm sorry scare... I can't focus if I lose sleep...
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