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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I really hate Terra showing up and saying "jedi was a bad lynch".

Scum often claim they wouldn't have been on Town lynches that they werent around for.

Pirate is probably Town for not realizing Red was Scum.

Geno, my role is Mega Man, veteran metal Blade. I am asking you to clarify your claim in that format

htaeD posted...

I am really liking all the arguments Harris is bringing up against Scare btw

Ok, no, any credibility you had is now gone. You have soft claimed information - you're probably not getting out of today without giving that information.

I mean, Scare I guess has one opportunity to confirm he wasn't bluffing.

I swear you are blind.

Just fucking claim already, jesus
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Han's claim format doesn't align with Scare's or what we've seen of Chris'.

Either Scare or Death has to be scum (unless Scare is Town lying in which case better fess up quick).

Chris said Scare was 100% scum, but also led a lynch on obvious Town in Jedi (but also led a train on and later vigged red).

Death's play so far today has looked godawful.

For Scare to be scum, he'd have to be trying to 1-for-1 as scum when scum team is already down 1. It's possible if he was certain he was going to be lynched because of Chris' guarantee, but...

Gonna trust my gut and say Chris was wrong and either Han is scum or there's some miscommunication about flavor between Town. Meaning Scare is Town and ##Vote: Death is scum.

Also, I suspect that geno is unaligned for now, and him getting his role tonight will also have him remember if he's Town or scum. I like the odds for scum here.

Finally, it worries me that ben was openly sheeping Chris really hard, and now that he's dead, opts to sheep the person Chris said was 100% scum.

ben, what's up with that?
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Han's claim format doesn't align with Scare's or what we've seen of Chris'.

Dude.

##unvote:
##vote: Doop
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I mean, I did forget to include my role in parenthesis, but the rest lines up with Chris completely
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What will you gain by me doing that Han? What's your plan here? Trying to bait me to say town or something? Because that's what I think this is.

eaedwards6400 posted...

DoomTheGyarados (Chris) has been killed! He was Captain Falcon, VETERAN 1-Shot Vigilante.

Looks different to me.
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And so I also assume the Vanilla claim was a lie?
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It has come to my attention that I screwed up the flip at the start of the day.

It should have been:
DoomTheGyarados (Chris) has been killed! He was Captain Falcon, VETERAN Falcon Punch (1-Shot Vigilante.)

Continue.
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I've half a mind to vote Han now, honestly. Who knew you could find so many scum in so little time?
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Well never mind then.

##Unvote
##Vote: Scare
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I see I have a lot of posts to answer too again

benjamin3740 posted...

htaeD posted...

However a few things made me question you being scum again.
1.Jedimass flipping nilla Pikachu without a move in his flavor.
2. You claiming doctor seems unsafe, even if its 1shot. A scumjack might try to fake safer powers that dont get countered easily.

So I eased off on you...

But not anymore I guess!

How in the world would reasoning #1 cause you to ease off Scare when it happened after the day was over? Plus, Scare claimed he had flavor anyway. So what pikachu having no mobe flavor in flip made you think Scare was lying and. ..thus town?

It will all become clear what I mean by that soon. I wasnt aking about my vote.

Also that second question is confusing because Pikachu not having a move made think Scare might NOT be lying. Since if Pikachu didnt have a move in his flavor, it proved that the host was not applying his name move (role) pattern to all roles...
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Geno, answer me this. Ifyou're newcomer veteran, how did you know you were town?
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What do you mean you didn't see the word powers? It was you who told Chris "I see what you see", and then suggested we all reveal what we see in Scares claim at the same time. There was no post that talked about powers when you wanted us to same time the info.

Its right there, Ben. Do I have to explain it again???

I didnt notice the word 'powers' in Chris post. I thought he said town roles or the like and just glossed over it.
"I see what you see" was me saying I also saw Scare not claiming a move with his role. And I only suggested we could sametime our thoughts because other players were saying, 'hey can I say what I thought it was afterwards?' The post talking about powers was Chris' post right there, its in the quote.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Geno, answer me this. Ifyou're newcomer veteran, how did you know you were town?

I asked eaed.

Ok, no, any credibility you had is now gone. You have soft claimed information - you're probably not getting out of today without giving that information.

I mean, Scare I guess has one opportunity to confirm he wasn't bluffing.

First off, screw 'what people think of me' getting in the way of me voicing my opinions and reads.
Secondly, I have information. Scare is lying. I know that for a fact. Granted, he will probably wring a claim out of me regardless. But I dont have concrete information due to a power...
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At least we now know Han is Town for sure for sure.

Han, as our first 100% truly certified live Town, what do you think about the state of the game?
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eaedwards6400 posted...

It has come to my attention that I screwed up the flip at the start of the day.

It should have been:
DoomTheGyarados (Chris) has been killed! He was Captain Falcon, VETERAN Falcon Punch (1-Shot Vigilante.)

Continue.

Does this count for the nillas as well???
Can I ask this??
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I can't believe ben won't answer my question :(

Death, who's scum besides Scare?
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Doopliss_Power posted...

At least we now know Han is Town for sure for sure.

Han, as our first 100% truly certified live Town, what do you think about the state of the game?

What? Even a monkey can fake that claim.

Right now my mind is kinda in a limbo concerning that, but I have less than good feelings about Ben and Pendragon.
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Also I take offense to my play being called godawful without examples.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I really hate Terra showing up and saying "jedi was a bad lynch".

Scum often claim they wouldn't have been on Town lynches that they werent around for.

Pirate is probably Town for not realizing Red was Scum.

Geno, my role is Mega Man, veteran metal Blade. I am asking you to clarify your claim in that format

I was around when the Jedi lynch was in motion, and I stood my ground. I also explained in depth why it was a bad lynch, it's a basic scum trap. Don't act like I just said "bad lynch" and moved on when I had several paragraphs of statements to explain my thoughts. Though in hindsight, I almost wonder if it was a 4D Chess play on Chris's part to intentionally go for the bad lynch to expose people who hopped on without much question. That was one reason why I think if Scare flips scum, Ben and/or Pend are also in the running for potential scum.

geno4smash4 posted...

Terra what do you want from me? I have nothing to give you until Night 2. The only thing I can say is that I asked eaed about the drunk part in my text. He said he didn't rename it because that's not my true role, which I assumed but I guess nice to have confirmation.

I want you to explain how you thought "town isn't veteran" after calling yourself "veteran." I'm just not following you there.

eaedwards6400 posted...

It has come to my attention that I screwed up the flip at the start of the day.

It should have been:
DoomTheGyarados (Chris) has been killed! He was Captain Falcon, VETERAN Falcon Punch (1-Shot Vigilante.)

Continue.

Well this makes more sense. I questioned if this was host error or the host intentionally concealing information.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Scare loves surviving as long as he can as scum, and he is happy to be called "the slipperiest scum ever" and the like. I don't think he would ever go 1 for 1 after my experiences with him tbh

That is true. Which is why I am half expecting Scare to take back the claim regardless of what he is.
If he doesnt. Well I consider it an honor that he is trading himself to get rid of me just me.
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htaeD posted...

Also I take offense to my play being called godawful without examples.

1) Calling Harris' play good
2) There are a couple more examples I can find but my Internet's being wonky and I have to leave soon and I'm lazy so I might get back to you on this but probably not since it doesn't matter since you're Town
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Also Doopliss I am surprised. You brought up some points that would make scare town, yet you vote him anyway.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

htaeD posted...

Also I take offense to my play being called godawful without examples.

1) Calling Harris' play good
2) There are a couple more examples I can find but my Internet's being wonky and I have to leave soon and I'm lazy so I might get back to you on this but probably not since it doesn't matter since you're Town

In my opinion Harris has been smarter than a lot of players so far. Again that could be bias talking.
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Do we have an archive of the first topic or something?

Gone already?

Time to use the log

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faqs!
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geno4smash4 posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

At least we now know Han is Town for sure for sure.

Han, as our first 100% truly certified live Town, what do you think about the state of the game?

What? Even a monkey can fake that claim.

Yeah I'm confused where his logic is in that remark.

Doopliss_Power posted...

Han's claim format doesn't align with Scare's or what we've seen of Chris'.

Why didn't you say it doesn't, you know, align with your own format? Seems like a pretty basic comparison I'd expect a town player to make. And you yourself are voting for Scare, so by that logic he wouldn't be a good frame of reference since that would imply his is just a fake claim.

@eaedwards6400 votals please?
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geno4smash4 posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

At least we now know Han is Town for sure for sure.

Han, as our first 100% truly certified live Town, what do you think about the state of the game?

What? Even a monkey can fake that claim.

A monkey can fake knowing Chris' exact role format before the host told us?

htaeD posted...

Also Doopliss I am surprised. You brought up some points that would make scare town, yet you vote him anyway.

Points that, in my eyes, only worked under the assumption that Chris' flavor meta against Scare was somehow a big misunderstanding, but then host error.
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Ugh I am starting to hate this move nonmove talk. Because if nillas dont get moves after all, then the game has a builtin flavortrap.
I mean its pretty obvious to most players that I am power now
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Doopliss_Power posted...

geno4smash4 posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

At least we now know Han is Town for sure for sure.

Han, as our first 100% truly certified live Town, what do you think about the state of the game?

What? Even a monkey can fake that claim.

A monkey can fake knowing Chris' exact role format before the host told us?

htaeD posted...

Also Doopliss I am surprised. You brought up some points that would make scare town, yet you vote him anyway.

Points that, in my eyes, only worked under the assumption that Chris' flavor meta against Scare was somehow a big misunderstanding, but then host error.

Do you read? The host told us he would rename the roles to something related to the character.

A monkey can fake knowing Chris' exact role format before the host told us?

Scum probably has the same format for their roles
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Mid-Day 2 thoughts on potential scum team:

Scare, Pend, Ben, Lolo, and Shonen
Maybe FD somewhere in there.

If Scare is actually right about tracking Death, then that changes up some things. But this is what I'm going with for now.
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I am not claiming until I hear from Scare again though. He can even sametime the reality of his 'track' with me, if he wants.
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htaeD posted...

A monkey can fake knowing Chris' exact role format before the host told us?

Scum probably has the same format for their roles

They don't know that until they see Town flip.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

I've half a mind to vote Han now, honestly. Who knew you could find so many scum in so little time?

Funny you should say that

##unvote
##vote: han

Han was my actual track and he actually targeted chris.

I wanted to check death there because I felt he was iffy and his reaction to it is probably the most town I have seen him be in a very long time, so welcome to the freaking game death

I tracked han because his end of day push on chris didnt sit right with me after chris seemed town to me
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Thats true. But I think it would be a fair assumption to make...

Didnt Chris already say his flavor was pretty much that?
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Votals as of 390
[3] Scare - Terra, Death, Doop
[1] Death - (Scare), Ben, (Doop)
[1] Sultan - lolo
[1] lolo - hombad
[1] Doop - Han
[1] Han - Scare
[0] Pendragon - (Han)
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htaeD posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Scare loves surviving as long as he can as scum, and he is happy to be called "the slipperiest scum ever" and the like. I don't think he would ever go 1 for 1 after my experiences with him tbh

That is true. Which is why I am half expecting Scare to take back the claim regardless of what he is.
If he doesnt. Well I consider it an honor that he is trading himself to get rid of me just me.

Why on earth would you ever think I go one for one for anyone as scum

Maybe chris in the most epic of situations? But I have never done that and highly doubt I ever would
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htaeD posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

It has come to my attention that I screwed up the flip at the start of the day.

It should have been:
DoomTheGyarados (Chris) has been killed! He was Captain Falcon, VETERAN Falcon Punch (1-Shot Vigilante.)

Continue.

Does this count for the nillas as well???
Can I ask this??

We already know nillas don't get moves from this:

Jedimess has been lynched! He was Pikachu, VETERAN Vanilla
and
Red13n has been killed! He was He was Simon Belmont, NEWCOMER Vanilla.

I doubt he would make the same mistake of forgetting the move twice
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htaeD posted...

I am not claiming until I hear from Scare again though. He can even sametime the reality of his 'track' with me, if he wants.

No need to claim, your reaction was very good
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ScareChan posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

I've half a mind to vote Han now, honestly. Who knew you could find so many scum in so little time?

Funny you should say that

##unvote
##vote: han

Han was my actual track and he actually targeted chris.

I wanted to check death there because I felt he was iffy and his reaction to it is probably the most town I have seen him be in a very long time, so welcome to the freaking game death

I tracked han because his end of day push on chris didnt sit right with me after chris seemed town to me

Scare, who do you think is your prospective scum team right now?
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Oh...
Now I am torn.
On one hand I am back to thinking that exceptions are made for certain roles if nillas dont get moves at all.
And I didnt want to give Scare a more legit reason to take back his bluff, so I didnt say this before... but...

This is not the first game Scare's tried this bluff scan trick... If I remember correctly

On the other you almost made me claim for nothing. And I think I still have too.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Votals as of 390
[3] Scare - Terra, Death, Doop
[2] Death - Scare, Ben, (Doop)
[1] Sultan - lolo
[1] lolo - hombad
[1] Doop - Han
[1] Han - Scare
[0] Pendragon - (Han)

You forgot the () around Scare's vote for Death, which would make Death have 1 vote
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ScareChan posted...

htaeD posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Scare loves surviving as long as he can as scum, and he is happy to be called "the slipperiest scum ever" and the like. I don't think he would ever go 1 for 1 after my experiences with him tbh

That is true. Which is why I am half expecting Scare to take back the claim regardless of what he is.
If he doesnt. Well I consider it an honor that he is trading himself to get rid of me just me.

Why on earth would you ever think I go one for one for anyone as scum

Maybe chris in the most epic of situations? But I have never done that and highly doubt I ever would

Well consider my ego deflated.
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Also even if I dont claim my role.. then

before the day ends I will at least claim who I targeted. Just in case scum kills me the next night
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Well I'm town and checked you which is... something?
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I already knew I was town tho!

But I need to think on this. Also i need to do groceries..
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