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Votals as of 400
[3] Scare - Terra, Death, Doop
[1] Death - (Scare), Ben, (Doop)
[1] Sultan - lolo
[1] lolo - hombad
[1] Doop - Han
[1] Han - Scare
[0] Pendragon - (Han)
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htaeD posted...

This is not the first game Scare's tried this bluff scan trick... If I remember correctly

In this game, was Scare actually the role he claimed to be, or was he scum? If he was legit, I may change my vote to Han
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benjamin3740 posted...

Scare loves surviving as long as he can as scum, and he is happy to be called "the slipperiest scum ever" and the like. I don't think he would ever go 1 for 1 after my experiences with him tbh

My boo
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God I hate fake scans

##Unvote

Got somewhere to be, should give me time to collect my thoughts and see what's happened once I come back.
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hombad46 posted...

htaeD posted...

This is not the first game Scare's tried this bluff scan trick... If I remember correctly

In this game, was Scare actually the role he claimed to be, or was he scum? If he was legit, I may change my vote to Han

Thats what I need to go back and check
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What the f, will we really let Scare get away with a fake scan? Town has literally no reason to lie.
##Vote:Scare

htaeD posted...

hombad46 posted...

htaeD posted...

This is not the first game Scare's tried this bluff scan trick... If I remember correctly

In this game, was Scare actually the role he claimed to be, or was he scum? If he was legit, I may change my vote to Han

Thats what I need to go back and check

In the fd lawyer game I was town vanilla and took it back after I got my reaction
In some other game I was scum vanilla and I dont remembe how I played it just my team being mad at me

This time I have actual info and wanted to try and get a 2 for one here
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Also note how han knew right away today that I wasnt blocked
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Han is Town for sure.

I can think of a very good reason Town Han would visit Chris so Scare isn't necessarily scum.

Flavor meta still heavily points to Scare being scum.

Death confuses me but if Scare is scum Death is probably Town.

##Vote: Scare
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

red13n posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

If we are going inactive I say special terra
Terra has been inactive and content that was presented was very weak
##vote:terra

dude are you scum?

he is. I thought hes been obvious for awhile though.

Is this a slight bus on reds part?

Very possibly.

Scare, let us know if you got a track off. And convince me you're not Scum.

Going to bed now. I'll try to find time to reread d1 and give real gutreads.

Like the way he says that is spewing he knew I wasn't blocked
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Doopliss_Power posted...

At least we now know Han is Town for sure for sure.

Han, as our first 100% truly certified live Town, what do you think about the state of the game?

Can you elaborate on this? How is Han 100% town?
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geno4smash4 posted...

What the f, will we really let Scare get away with a fake scan? Town has literally no reason to lie.
##Vote:Scare

Wow look at the han defense force here

Geno has definitely played with corrik before so he knows town can lie all the time

Also doop swinging on me after he trusted my scan after saying he wanted to lynch han but follow the scan and now wants to vote me lol

Yeah scum tried to kill me and they are salty as fuck
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ScareChan posted...

geno4smash4 posted...

What the f, will we really let Scare get away with a fake scan? Town has literally no reason to lie.
##Vote:Scare

Wow look at the han defense force here

Geno has definitely played with corrik before so he knows town can lie all the time

Also doop swinging on me after he trusted my scan after saying he wanted to lynch han but follow the scan and now wants to vote me lol

Yeah scum tried to kill me and they are salty as fuck

The Corrik lies that I've seen aren't nearly as baity as this one, you literally claimed a fake track, in that time you could've outed Death's role completely, leaving town with a disadvantage just for a troll bait move. You are the salty one and you are getting lynched today.

Yes I lied about death

But actually tracked han to chris

You are missing half of the pie here or are just scum who fucked up
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Didn't have time to go over everyone, but here's my current readlist

2. Hombad (Corrik): Me. Veteran

3. Doopliss_Power: Detailed and logical reads. Looks Vet to me.
...Or that's what it used to be, now I don't follow his logic at all for Han being 100% town, and he's pingponging about Scare too much for my liking. Still think he's town though.

4. geno4smash: Such a strange claim that I'm inclined to believe it. May change after he remembers the full role tonight

5. HanOfTheNekos: Was pretty strongly against Chris, then jumped off that when Lolo joined his crusade. Now Scare claims to have tracked him to Chris?

7. htaeD (Death): Apparently the track to Chris was just a ruse to test his reaction. Seemed genuinely confused about flavor. Leaning heavily towards town.

8. Lolo_Guru: Being on both the red13n and Chris bandwagons seems kinda scummy, Chris and Han also think so, though Han could simply be distancing.

10. ScareChan: Has apparently done this fake target ruse before. Not sure what to think.

11. Forecful_Dragon: Only person on Red at the end of the day. Possible bus?

12. Pirate_Harris (Shad): Shakey logic for scum to target Scare over Chris. Potentially just tired?

15. TheSultanOfSlam: One of the last people on the Red bandwagon. Could be sheep, could be scum trying to bus. Leaning sheep atm.

@HanOfTheNekos can you explain why Lolo joining your Chris wagon made you hop off?
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ScareChan posted...

Yes I lied about death

But actually tracked han to chris

You are missing half of the pie here or are just scum who fucked up

You know what I believe? I believe you are lying once again. And if you flip scum Death might be one of your scum partners.

I... what

Ok geno have fun with that
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See what did go through my mind the last half hour was

'Scare as scum would still be doing a 1 for 1 trade'.
On the other hand, why didnt red simply kill Chris?
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htaeD posted...

See what did go through my mind the last half hour was

'Scare as scum would still be doing a 1 for 1 trade'.
On the other hand, why didnt red simply kill Chris?

What do you mean? Chris is a dead Vet, Red is scum, looks to me like Red did kill him
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Yes but Scare is saying he tracked Han to Chris..
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Red flipped vanilla, han likely strongman
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Finally, it worries me that ben was openly sheeping Chris really hard, and now that he's dead, opts to sheep the person Chris said was 100% scum.

ben, what's up with that?

Ah yes. Just further proof I wasn't COMPLETELY sheeping Chris. I'm fully aware of why Chris called Scare 100% scum. Because his claim was indeed botched, even if Scare is town. And his flavor not being a move is a good reason to call someone scum, but I do think a jack of all trades would be a special case where your flavor simply cannot be named after a single move. It makes a bit more sense that is host's doing than Scare's dumb slip up, especially when the scum team powers would be named after moves.

When I voted Scare with Chris, it is because Scare had not provided anything at the time that made me read him town. So it was a good vote to see if we could get anything out of him, or if he was just scum. I think Chris does retract the 100% comment a little bit. After all, he shot Red. Not Scare
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I'm at work so I won't be able to keep up much until lunch and then off at 4
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Did people skip reading my vote for red or??? Like I clearly said I wanted him to claim and that I thought he was scum... whatever he is gone now anyways so it doesnt mean much

Also scare isnt doing himself favors though I'm still on board for a han lynch I'm pretty sure he is scum
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Sorry Terra, I misremembered last night. Thought you were absent from the end of day.

And yeah, Scare is lying still.

Scare is throwing out fake scans to see if something sticks.

Question is, is he role fishing Scum who is playing ridiculously ballsy, or is he Town with no info who is just making risky plays for the sake of hoping he draws something.

Either way, it's poor play and anti-Town. Bluffs can work great, but when you're trying to bluff a track, you have a very low chance of getting anything out of it.

I'm on lunch, so give me a minute to put out some responses.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Did people skip reading my vote for red or??? Like I clearly said I wanted him to claim and that I thought he was scum... whatever he is gone now anyways so it doesnt mean much

Also scare isnt doing himself favors though I'm still on board for a han lynch I'm pretty sure he is scum

So you were thinking Han and the like were bussing red?
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hombad46 posted...

Didn't have time to go over everyone, but here's my current readlist

@HanOfTheNekos can you explain why Lolo joining your Chris wagon made you hop off?

Because I have thought Lolo looks bad, and his hop onto Chris looked really really really Scummy.

With Chris flipping Town, Lolo looks even worse, but I'm saving my thoughts for until I see the manner in which he voted red during D1.

Also, keep in mind Lolo hopped off Scare. That means Lolo has a good chance of being Scumbuddies with Scare if he is to flip Scum.
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ScareChan posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

red13n posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

If we are going inactive I say special terra
Terra has been inactive and content that was presented was very weak
##vote:terra

dude are you scum?

he is. I thought hes been obvious for awhile though.

Is this a slight bus on reds part?

Very possibly.

Scare, let us know if you got a track off. And convince me you're not Scum.

Going to bed now. I'll try to find time to reread d1 and give real gutreads.

Like the way he says that is spewing he knew I wasn't blocked

Like, what is the cognitive dissonance here? You just look like an idiot with this post.
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I wasnt busing red what dont you get I wanted red lynched and wanted him to claim? How are you not getting this
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Sultan, calm down.
I was asking if you thought someone else was bussing red
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htaeD posted...

Sultan, calm down.
I was asking if you thought someone else was bussing red

Ohh lol my bad. And its possible
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geno4smash4 posted...

What will you gain by me doing that Han? What's your plan here? Trying to bait me to say town or something? Because that's what I think this is.

Dude, your claim was unclear. I'm just trying to get it in the most clear words because you said a lot without being specific enough.

And I have asked you to repeat something that you basically already said. Why are you being so reluctant? You are whining and throwing a fit, and I'm just asking a really simple question.

Here, I'll help you out. Tell me if A or B is correct.

A. You are Ridley, veteran drunk.
B. You are Ridley, veteran _________ (drunk)
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Han's claim format doesn't align with Scare's or what we've seen of Chris'.

Why did you not talk about your own format here?
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Ugh, someone deleted their post on page 4.

Guys, dont do that.

Also yeah I will say that I dont think Han sounded like he knew Scare got his scan off..
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

geno4smash4 posted...

What will you gain by me doing that Han? What's your plan here? Trying to bait me to say town or something? Because that's what I think this is.

Dude, your claim was unclear. I'm just trying to get it in the most clear words because you said a lot without being specific enough.

And I have asked you to repeat something that you basically already said. Why are you being so reluctant? You are whining and throwing a fit, and I'm just asking a really simple question.

Here, I'll help you out. Tell me if A or B is correct.

A. You are Ridley, veteran drunk.
B. You are Ridley, veteran _________ (drunk)

None.

Ok, so now you should understand why I am asking for clarification. I thought one of those two was correct, but clearly I am wrong.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

At least we now know Han is Town for sure for sure.

Han, as our first 100% truly certified live Town, what do you think about the state of the game?

We've had a few already. Why Han for you though?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ok, so now you should understand why I am asking for clarification. I thought one of those two was correct, but clearly I am wrong.

Ridley, newcomer veteran drunk.

geno4smash4 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ok, so now you should understand why I am asking for clarification. I thought one of those two was correct, but clearly I am wrong.

Ridley, newcomer veteran drunk.

Thank you Geno. And your role says you will remember what you are at the start of night 2? Or the end?

benjamin3740 posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

At least we now know Han is Town for sure for sure.

Han, as our first 100% truly certified live Town, what do you think about the state of the game?

We've had a few already. Why Han for you though?

It should be obv at this point. Town Ben would have said so. ;P
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HanOfTheNekos

Red sounds very much like he is upset that I am on him, and predicts me to use him flipping Scum as evidence that I'm great at finding Scum d1, when he feels I am just sheeping and don't deserve the credit.

Also Lolo is probably Scum.

I was right about this!
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

geno4smash4 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ok, so now you should understand why I am asking for clarification. I thought one of those two was correct, but clearly I am wrong.

Ridley, newcomer veteran drunk.

Thank you Geno. And your role says you will remember what you are at the start of night 2? Or the end?

benjamin3740 posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

At least we now know Han is Town for sure for sure.

Han, as our first 100% truly certified live Town, what do you think about the state of the game?

We've had a few already. Why Han for you though?

It should be obv at this point. Town Ben would have said so. ;P

End, I won't be able to use my role on Night 2.

Lolo_Guru posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Scare's been talking to me a lot on the mason board, but that's about it. He agrees with everything I say. Which is basically everything Chris says. So he's in good hands

*Insert laughing dhd gif here*

And yeah, I am seriously going sultan/scum here, but that points far more to red/scum than red/town.

##vote: red

red13n posted...

also lolo you should be happy i'm in a rather good mood because I am trying very hard to be nice to you while being incredibly frustrated with your postings.

chris can verify this assuming he is still here.

Interesting combo of posts here. Does Scum Lolo add pressure to Red, sticking to his thoughts and mixing with Town while Red gets mad at his buddy for bussing?
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And unless there's something profound about it, that doesn't sound like a role that should be included in a game. No action until N3? Why balance around that?

Maybe Ridley is just TOO BIG to fit on a team, so he is on his own team (sk)?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

hombad46 posted...

Didn't have time to go over everyone, but here's my current readlist

@HanOfTheNekos can you explain why Lolo joining your Chris wagon made you hop off?

Because I have thought Lolo looks bad, and his hop onto Chris looked really really really Scummy.

With Chris flipping Town, Lolo looks even worse, but I'm saving my thoughts for until I see the manner in which he voted red during D1.

Also, keep in mind Lolo hopped off Scare. That means Lolo has a good chance of being Scumbuddies with Scare if he is to flip Scum.

Given that Scare has done this sort of thing in the past, as well as his day 1 votes being all over the place (Death, FD, and Chris before finally settling on Jedi for self preservation), I believe he is legitimately trying to apply pressure to get scum to crack. However, he's still on thin ice, pending more from him. Tracking someone to Chris last night could mean anything from a strongman going to kill him to a a doctor trying to protect him to a cop investigating him. The track claims alone are too flimsy to be evidence for a lynch either way, so I'm staying on Lolo
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benjamin3740 posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

At least we now know Han is Town for sure for sure.

Han, as our first 100% truly certified live Town, what do you think about the state of the game?

We've had a few already. Why Han for you though?

Han can't have been that confident in Chris' exact format after a host error unless he's Town power or rolecop (which also makes him Town because why would you rolecop your night kill)
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Doopliss_Power posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

At least we now know Han is Town for sure for sure.

Han, as our first 100% truly certified live Town, what do you think about the state of the game?

We've had a few already. Why Han for you though?

Han can't have been that confident in Chris' exact format after a host error unless he's Town power or rolecop (which also makes him Town because why would you rolecop your night kill)

Why wouldnt scum roles also be formatted the same way?
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Hbthebattle posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

At least we now know Han is Town for sure for sure.

Han, as our first 100% truly certified live Town, what do you think about the state of the game?

We've had a few already. Why Han for you though?

Han can't have been that confident in Chris' exact format after a host error unless he's Town power or rolecop (which also makes him Town because why would you rolecop your night kill)

Why wouldnt scum roles also be formatted the same way?

Again, scum can't know they're formatted exactly like Town until they see a Town flip.
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and again I am pretty sure Chris pretty much gave away what the format was
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

At least we now know Han is Town for sure for sure.

Han, as our first 100% truly certified live Town, what do you think about the state of the game?

We've had a few already. Why Han for you though?

Han can't have been that confident in Chris' exact format after a host error unless he's Town power or rolecop (which also makes him Town because why would you rolecop your night kill)

Why wouldnt scum roles also be formatted the same way?

Again, scum can't know they're formatted exactly like Town until they see a Town flip.

You're an idiot
Or scum
Or both

Which would you like to be and who are your scummates
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Scare, easy with the insults
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