Board 8 > One removed from The Last Jedi-- The movie is still fucking awesome (spoilers)

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OliviaTremor
12/19/18 11:57:55 AM
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Lol bunch of nerds who hate it for ruining Star Wars. The prequel trilogy sucks. Clone Wars the movie sucks. Return of the Jedi is super disappointing after Empire. Rogue One is whatever.

But for some reason though it's The Last Jedi, a legitimately awesome movie, that 'killed Star Wars'. Fuck off with that. The movie decimated the stupid Palpatine stand in with the series best fucking scene fuck yeah throne room scene, made Luke multifaceted and interesting, didn't make Rey's parents some dumbass connection to OT trilogy, actually gave Poe Dameron a character instead of being a wooden cutout, holy fucking shit the lightspeed suicide was awesome fuck all you arm chair scientists, Kylo vs Luke's projection was fucking awesome, Fynn vs Phasma was cool as shit I mean did you see that fucking shot of her piercing blue eye when she knows she's going to die, the fucking ships kicking up the red dirt on the snow planet was baller as fuck

fuckkkkkkkkkkkk what a good fucking movie
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OliviaTremor
12/19/18 11:59:45 AM
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One year removed whatever fuck yeah Last Jedi
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garetha200
12/19/18 12:02:56 PM
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OliviaTremor posted...
OT trilogy

Original Trilogy trilogy

Also Rogue One is amazing
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KingButz
12/19/18 12:04:38 PM
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What about hating it because it's objectively a bad film on its own merits
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davidponte
12/19/18 12:05:07 PM
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KingButz posted...
What about hating it because it's objectively a bad film on its own merits

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GranzonEx
12/19/18 12:05:27 PM
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davidponte posted...
KingButz posted...
What about hating it because it's objectively a bad film on its own merits

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OliviaTremor
12/19/18 12:06:06 PM
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I realized my mistake but really don't care. Rogue One is fine. Could have been great if I remembered a single character besides Hannibal, the main girl, and the blind monk dude. But you know what fuck yeah that Vadar decimating things at the end was awesome as fuckkkkkk
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OliviaTremor
12/19/18 12:07:31 PM
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GranzonEx posted...
davidponte posted...
KingButz posted...
What about hating it because it's objectively a bad film on its own merits


"I don't know what the word objective means"
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CelesMyUserName
12/19/18 12:24:44 PM
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GranzonEx posted...
davidponte posted...
KingButz posted...
What about hating it because it's objectively a bad film on its own merits

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LapisLazuli
12/19/18 12:29:30 PM
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I disagree with the antagonistic nature of this topic, but I agree with the stances as presented. Basically just cut out the first sentence.

Also think Force Awakens was boring.

There are 3 good Star Wars movies. 4, 5, and 8.
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Gatarix
12/19/18 12:30:07 PM
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OliviaTremor posted...
The movie decimated the stupid Palpatine stand in with the series best fucking scene fuck yeah throne room scene, made Luke multifaceted and interesting, didn't make Rey's parents some dumbass connection to OT trilogy

Kylo vs Luke's projection was fucking awesome

the fucking ships kicking up the red dirt on the snow planet was baller as fuck

yes absolutely all of this

(everything involving Holdo was dumb though)
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XIII_rocks
12/19/18 12:32:33 PM
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Such a good movie.
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OliviaTremor
12/19/18 12:36:43 PM
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Over the top antagonistic nature was because I fully anticipated the topic becoming a shitstorm so I figured I might as well start it-- except in favor of the movie.

For real though, I was just thinking about the movie this morning and realized it has been a bit more than a year since it came out. Even though I do think there are problems with the movie's plot, namely Holdo not just informing Poe what was going on since clearly Leia thinks highly of Poe to begin with, I kept vividly remembering certain scenes and set pieces. The cinematography itself was absolutely incredible and the movie did a great job of subverting fan theories, for better or worse. It tried new things and though some of it didn't work, the stuff that did was incredible in my opinion.

I think when episode 9 comes out some of the gaps that bother people such as who is Snoke and Rey's parents and that stuff could definitely be filled in. The Last Jedi is a dense movie and will likely benefit from being in the center of the trilogy. We'll see.
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HashtagSEP
12/19/18 12:38:47 PM
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Nanis23 posted...
I mean really you could have a nice topic saying you disagree with people that hated it and explain why you think it was a good movie
But instead you act like a stupid child "lol bunch of nerds" "fuck off with that" "fuuuuuccck"

Elitist nerd


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OliviaTremor
12/19/18 12:40:21 PM
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The most egregious part of the movie, though, was definitely Rose not letting Finn sacrifice himself. Finn hasn't really done anything in the first two movies to justify his existence in my opinion. I really hope there is a big payoff for him in Episode IX.
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Mr Lasastryke
12/19/18 12:44:05 PM
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OliviaTremor posted...
It tried new things and though some of it didn't work, the stuff that did was incredible in my opinion.


while i still haven't seen last jedi so i can't comment on that, it's interesting that this is exactly how i would describe return of the jedi (which you called "super disappointing after empire," which i agree with).

like, the emperor/vader/luke scenes are probably some of the best in the original trilogy, but you also have to sit through 60 hours of ewok bullshit if you watch the movie.
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CasanovaZelos
12/19/18 12:49:26 PM
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The Last Jedi so good, Star Wars fans are apparently just easily susceptible to Russian bot opinions. Almost every 'critique' I see on the film stems from bizarre fan expectations that really have nothing to do with the inherent quality of a film. There are plenty of actual flaws (why it's a mid-8/10 and the first two are high-9/10s - but everything else in the series is a low-7 at best), but so much of the complaining I see has to do with plot elements...not going how the fans expected them to? Like the Star Wars fanbase actively wants the plot to be generic and predictable. Anything about Rey's parentage and Snoke comes off as nonsense rambling, yet that seems to be what every anti-Last Jedi rant is prefaced with. I'll give people the rather meandering nature of some plot points, but so much of it seems to boil down to 'this plot didn't have enough fan service.'
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HanOfTheNekos
12/19/18 12:54:49 PM
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Rey not being a Skywalker is such top-tier storytelling. I mean, they'll be writing about that one for decades. Vader being Luke's father is cool, but Rey not being Luke's daughter is EVEN COOLER

I dont know why they even make any more movies at all. No movie will ever beat Rey not being a Skywalker. Shakespeare is trash compared to that.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/19/18 1:03:05 PM
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HanOfTheNekos posted...
Rey not being a Skywalker is such top-tier storytelling. I mean, they'll be writing about that one for decades. Vader being Luke's father is cool, but Rey not being Luke's daughter is EVEN COOLER

I dont know why they even make any more movies at all. No movie will ever beat Rey not being a Skywalker. Shakespeare is trash compared to that.

Shakespeare is trash period.
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GildedFool
12/19/18 1:06:32 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Rey not being a Skywalker is such top-tier storytelling. I mean, they'll be writing about that one for decades. Vader being Luke's father is cool, but Rey not being Luke's daughter is EVEN COOLER

I dont know why they even make any more movies at all. No movie will ever beat Rey not being a Skywalker. Shakespeare is trash compared to that.

Shakespeare is trash period.

Oh god, I hate Shakespeare.
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scarletspeed7
12/19/18 1:07:21 PM
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The main thing people overlook is that Cad Bane, Admiral Thrawn, Calo Nord, Face Loren, Darth Bane and so many of the greatest Star Wars characters didn't even debut in the mainline movies. The more Star Wars products I consume, the more enamored I get with the old Rogue Squadron book series. Man, imagine if they made those into a several limited seasons of a prestige TV show! It would be a great ensemble piece with some unique action sequences we really never saw fleshed out in the Star Wars films. I've always been much more interested in the non-Force wielding characters in the Star Wars universe. That's where the meat of politics, corruption, military, crime, and trade come together to create a real backdrop for the goofy zen magic nonsense.

And lol at people thinking Shakespeare is trash. Board 8 is a weird fucking place.
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pjbasis
12/19/18 1:10:26 PM
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CelesMyUserName
12/19/18 1:11:35 PM
#34:


CasanovaZelos posted...
The Last Jedi so good, Star Wars fans are apparently just easily susceptible to Russian bot opinions. Almost every 'critique' I see on the film stems from bizarre fan expectations that really have nothing to do with the inherent quality of a film. There are plenty of actual flaws (why it's a mid-8/10 and the first two are high-9/10s - but everything else in the series is a low-7 at best), but so much of the complaining I see has to do with plot elements...not going how the fans expected them to? Like the Star Wars fanbase actively wants the plot to be generic and predictable. Anything about Rey's parentage and Snoke comes off as nonsense rambling, yet that seems to be what every anti-Last Jedi rant is prefaced with. I'll give people the rather meandering nature of some plot points, but so much of it seems to boil down to 'this plot didn't have enough fan service.'

what about people who didn't read anything online and still were gravely disappointed. seriously, come off the any criticism is "nonsense rambling" high horse

a shit ton of anti-TLJ comments were bots, yes, which dumb defensive TLJ posters can easily turn into their strawmen
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Mr Lasastryke
12/19/18 1:17:27 PM
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not everything shakespeare made was amazing but to say he was "trash" is... uh... hmm.
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CasanovaZelos
12/19/18 1:19:04 PM
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CelesMyUserName posted...
CasanovaZelos posted...
The Last Jedi so good, Star Wars fans are apparently just easily susceptible to Russian bot opinions. Almost every 'critique' I see on the film stems from bizarre fan expectations that really have nothing to do with the inherent quality of a film. There are plenty of actual flaws (why it's a mid-8/10 and the first two are high-9/10s - but everything else in the series is a low-7 at best), but so much of the complaining I see has to do with plot elements...not going how the fans expected them to? Like the Star Wars fanbase actively wants the plot to be generic and predictable. Anything about Rey's parentage and Snoke comes off as nonsense rambling, yet that seems to be what every anti-Last Jedi rant is prefaced with. I'll give people the rather meandering nature of some plot points, but so much of it seems to boil down to 'this plot didn't have enough fan service.'

what about people who didn't read anything online and still were gravely disappointed. seriously, come off the any criticism is "nonsense rambling" high horse

a shit ton of anti-TLJ comments were bots, yes, which dumb defensive TLJ posters can easily turn into their strawmen


I literally listed two specific things as nonsense ramblings, not 'any criticism.' Jesus...
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pjbasis
12/19/18 1:19:36 PM
#37:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
not everything shakespeare made was amazing but to say he was "trash" is... uh... hmm.


You have to take the NES games are crap mentality.

It was the 1600s, of course writing techniques were bad. We've come a long way since then and learned a lot about the writing process!
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Safer_777
12/19/18 1:19:42 PM
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The movie sucks, let us be real.
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banananor
12/19/18 1:22:23 PM
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The film was too long and lacked emotional direction

It was just scene after scene of things happening. Rlm's video about it being structured as a comedy was pretty on point
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KamikazePotato
12/19/18 1:23:38 PM
#40:


Xq5O8bQ

What happened
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Snrkiko
12/19/18 1:25:50 PM
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GranzonEx posted...
davidponte posted...
KingButz posted...
What about hating it because it's objectively a bad film on its own merits

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Mr Lasastryke
12/19/18 1:27:03 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Xq5O8bQ

What happened


yeah, i'd like to know this too.
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Seginustemple
12/19/18 1:32:44 PM
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That movie was so exceedingly dull I have to assume that passionate defense of it has more to do with personal pride than any sort of cinematic merit.
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GildedFool
12/19/18 1:33:37 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
not everything shakespeare made was amazing but to say he was "trash" is... uh... hmm.

You should hate Shakspeare.
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TotallyNotMI
12/19/18 1:37:53 PM
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GildedFool posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Rey not being a Skywalker is such top-tier storytelling. I mean, they'll be writing about that one for decades. Vader being Luke's father is cool, but Rey not being Luke's daughter is EVEN COOLER

I dont know why they even make any more movies at all. No movie will ever beat Rey not being a Skywalker. Shakespeare is trash compared to that.

Shakespeare is trash period.

Oh god, I hate Shakespeare.

Don't be a penis, the man is a genius.
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GildedFool
12/19/18 1:41:28 PM
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TotallyNotMI posted...
GildedFool posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Rey not being a Skywalker is such top-tier storytelling. I mean, they'll be writing about that one for decades. Vader being Luke's father is cool, but Rey not being Luke's daughter is EVEN COOLER

I dont know why they even make any more movies at all. No movie will ever beat Rey not being a Skywalker. Shakespeare is trash compared to that.

Shakespeare is trash period.

Oh god, I hate Shakespeare.

Don't be a penis, the man is a genius.

His genius is he fooled all of you
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TotallyNotMI
12/19/18 1:43:43 PM
#47:


GildedFool posted...
TotallyNotMI posted...
GildedFool posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Rey not being a Skywalker is such top-tier storytelling. I mean, they'll be writing about that one for decades. Vader being Luke's father is cool, but Rey not being Luke's daughter is EVEN COOLER

I dont know why they even make any more movies at all. No movie will ever beat Rey not being a Skywalker. Shakespeare is trash compared to that.

Shakespeare is trash period.

Oh god, I hate Shakespeare.

Don't be a penis, the man is a genius.

His genius is he fooled all of you

But he's brilliant, what majesty flows from his pen
His poetry soars like a sweet violin
God's own inspiration, like lightning doth strike him
And he captures my soul
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CelesMyUserName
12/19/18 1:47:16 PM
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Seginustemple posted...
That movie was so exceedingly dull I have to assume that passionate defense of it has more to do with personal pride than any sort of cinematic merit.

a lot of it has to do with the aforementioned russian bots that just wanted to stir shit and made a bunch of fake insufferable anti-TLJ personalities trigger fans so that fans then have to backlash against them

only that anti-TLJ lot doesn't actually exist to any significant degree since they were largely manufactured bots to begin with, so the TLJ defence force is all geared up against a nonexistent enemy they view as its critics

kinda like the Bernie Bros, they could annoy me too but then it turned out a lot of that noise were russian bots and not actual Bernie supporters
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CasanovaZelos
12/19/18 1:47:42 PM
#49:


Now, I do enjoy dull movies. I have watched several films that belong to the 'Slow Cinema' movement. Not that I think The Last Jedi belongs anywhere near there, but you know...

Anyway, my reasons for loving The Last Jedi fall largely into the technical and stylistic aspects of the film. I guess I find the plot critiques so odd because I've never viewed Star Wars as a series where I cared about the actual details of how things worked? Like, to me, watching a Star Wars movie for the plot makes about as much sense as listening to Daft Punk for the lyrics.
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BlAcK TuRtLe
12/19/18 1:54:42 PM
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TLJ was a flawed movie that at least tried to do something original, and for that I rank it much higher than TFA. Honestly if you just eliminate the entire casino planet bullshit, and get rid of the bitch-admiral lady and weird Chinese chick, the film is 100 times better already. The core story elements were very well handled (Rey/Kyle/Luke)
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Logience
12/19/18 2:00:01 PM
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It's pretty much impossible to talk about this movie period, since it's become so goddamn wrapped up in political discussion, to the point of being used as an antiparticle to Triumph Of The Will by Neonazis.
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12/19/18 2:00:08 PM
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Mr Lasastryke
12/19/18 2:08:51 PM
#53:


CasanovaZelos posted...
Like, to me, watching a Star Wars movie for the plot makes about as much sense as listening to Daft Punk for the lyrics.


hey, digital love is one of my favorite songs partially because of its lyrics.
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LinkMarioSamus
12/19/18 2:09:35 PM
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I thought Return of the Jedi was awesome. Not as good as Empire and probably not as good as the original but still. Then again I did not mind the Ewoks. The only real problem I had with Return of the Jedi was its lack of ambition compared to its predecessors.

The Last Jedi, I didn't like it, but I still have a hard time fathoming how unbelievably venomous fan reactions towards it are. Wow.
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kevwaffles
12/19/18 2:35:08 PM
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Honestly if you just eliminate the entire casino planet bullshit, and get rid of the bitch-admiral lady and weird Chinese chick, the film is 100 times better already.

Except that it would be like 40 minutes long max.
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CelesMyUserName
12/19/18 2:39:42 PM
#56:


Bitch Admiral Lady >>>>>>>>>>>>> Poe

ST needs to stop trying to make Poe a thing he's garbage and his plot in TLJ was pure shite.
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OliviaTremor
12/19/18 3:02:52 PM
#57:


CasanovaZelos posted...
Now, I do enjoy dull movies. I have watched several films that belong to the 'Slow Cinema' movement. Not that I think The Last Jedi belongs anywhere near there, but you know...

Anyway, my reasons for loving The Last Jedi fall largely into the technical and stylistic aspects of the film. I guess I find the plot critiques so odd because I've never viewed Star Wars as a series where I cared about the actual details of how things worked? Like, to me, watching a Star Wars movie for the plot makes about as much sense as listening to Daft Punk for the lyrics.


I agree with everything in this post. The Last Jedi had some absolutely fantastic set pieces and gorgeous cinematography. It's a stunningly beautiful movie in my opinion. Maybe you don't care for the light speed suicide, but I find it hard to believe that someone didn't gasp in amazement at the way the scene was shot, the brilliant sound cut, and lingering on the destruction. It's moments like that that make Star Wars for me, personally, and when a Star Wars movie does something well (or even poorly) it is forever ingrained in your memory.
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BlAcK TuRtLe
12/19/18 3:08:01 PM
#58:


OliviaTremor posted...
CasanovaZelos posted...
Now, I do enjoy dull movies. I have watched several films that belong to the 'Slow Cinema' movement. Not that I think The Last Jedi belongs anywhere near there, but you know...

Anyway, my reasons for loving The Last Jedi fall largely into the technical and stylistic aspects of the film. I guess I find the plot critiques so odd because I've never viewed Star Wars as a series where I cared about the actual details of how things worked? Like, to me, watching a Star Wars movie for the plot makes about as much sense as listening to Daft Punk for the lyrics.


I agree with everything in this post. The Last Jedi had some absolutely fantastic set pieces and gorgeous cinematography. It's a stunningly beautiful movie in my opinion. Maybe you don't care for the light speed suicide, but I find it hard to believe that someone didn't gasp in amazement at the way the scene was shot, the brilliant sound cut, and lingering on the destruction. It's moments like that that make Star Wars for me, personally, and when a Star Wars movie does something well (or even poorly) it is forever ingrained in your memory.

I think the problem with that scene is how it completely shits on the established rules of how hyperspace functions.

Then again, they already did that with the "let's just jump in THROUGH the planetary shield" bullshit in TFA, so I guess the science in science fiction is dead.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/19/18 3:09:26 PM
#59:


pjbasis posted...
Mr Lasastryke posted...
not everything shakespeare made was amazing but to say he was "trash" is... uh... hmm.


You have to take the NES games are crap mentality.

It was the 1600s, of course writing techniques were bad. We've come a long way since then and learned a lot about the writing process!

NES games aren't crap, and Shakespeare is still trash.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/19/18 3:10:48 PM
#60:


TotallyNotMI posted...
GildedFool posted...
TotallyNotMI posted...
GildedFool posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Rey not being a Skywalker is such top-tier storytelling. I mean, they'll be writing about that one for decades. Vader being Luke's father is cool, but Rey not being Luke's daughter is EVEN COOLER

I dont know why they even make any more movies at all. No movie will ever beat Rey not being a Skywalker. Shakespeare is trash compared to that.

Shakespeare is trash period.

Oh god, I hate Shakespeare.

Don't be a penis, the man is a genius.

His genius is he fooled all of you

But he's brilliant, what majesty flows from his pen
His poetry soars like a sweet violin
God's own inspiration, like lightning doth strike him
And he captures my soul

God doesn't exist and Shakespeare is still trash.
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HashtagSEP
12/19/18 3:10:56 PM
#61:


CelesMyUserName posted...
Bitch Admiral Lady >>>>>>>>>>>>> Poe

ST needs to stop trying to make Poe a thing he's garbage and his plot in TLJ was pure shite.


Nah Poe is great
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