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red sox 777 05/16/19 3:59:33 PM #401: |
Well, I guess it's not 100% unambiguous. Literally speaking, a person who performs an abortion on themselves is a person upon whom an abortion has been performed, but I suppose it's not out of the question a court could find that "upon whom an abortion has been performed" means "upon whom an abortion been performed by another person."
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Jakyl25 05/16/19 4:03:17 PM #402: |
red sox 777 posted...
Well, I guess it's not 100% unambiguous. Literally speaking, a person who performs an abortion on themselves is a person upon whom an abortion has been performed, but I suppose it's not out of the question a court could find that "upon whom an abortion has been performed" means "upon whom an abortion been performed by another person." If the ultimate goal is to preserve the life of the unborn then logically youd have to punish the woman --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 05/16/19 4:12:54 PM #403: |
Also, adding to the states doing this: Missouri Senate passed a bill banning abortion after 8 weeks. Only exception would be health of the mother. Governor indicates he'll sign it, still needs a vote by the (Republican controlled) House.
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Xeybozn 05/16/19 4:14:19 PM #404: |
Jakyl25 posted...
red sox 777 posted...Well, I guess it's not 100% unambiguous. Literally speaking, a person who performs an abortion on themselves is a person upon whom an abortion has been performed, but I suppose it's not out of the question a court could find that "upon whom an abortion has been performed" means "upon whom an abortion been performed by another person." Actually, that doesn't necessarily follow. It would be logically consistent to be against punishing women for getting abortions if you believe women are inherently incapable of making their own decisions. You know, kind of like how dogs aren't thrown in jail if their owner uses them for dogfighting. One could believe punishing a women is pointless for similar reasons but still support punishing the other people involved. --- Congrats to 2019 Guru champ Advokaiser! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 05/16/19 4:14:33 PM #405: |
Jakyl25 posted...
I also dont know why you keep trying to shame me into calming down when you know full well that I would fight to the death for abortion rights That's fine and I support you in this effort. But using misleading and deceptive shock tactics isn't going to help your cause. You will lose credibility. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 05/16/19 4:16:27 PM #406: |
Xeybozn posted...
Jakyl25 posted...red sox 777 posted...Well, I guess it's not 100% unambiguous. Literally speaking, a person who performs an abortion on themselves is a person upon whom an abortion has been performed, but I suppose it's not out of the question a court could find that "upon whom an abortion has been performed" means "upon whom an abortion been performed by another person." This is the logic the US Supreme Court used 100+ years ago to uphold an Oregon law setting a maximum number of hours per week women could work after striking down a New York law setting a maximum number of work hours for everyone. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 05/16/19 4:17:22 PM #407: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...I also dont know why you keep trying to shame me into calming down when you know full well that I would fight to the death for abortion rights You think I will lose credibility with the B8 politics topic, my own creation? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 05/16/19 4:18:24 PM #408: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...Jakyl25 posted...I also dont know why you keep trying to shame me into calming down when you know full well that I would fight to the death for abortion rights Yes. I was about to donate to a legal fund to fight this, but your hysteria and blatant disinformation campaign dissuaded me. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 05/16/19 4:18:51 PM #409: |
I don't know how much you know about the B8 politics topic (I'm an expert) but honor and shame are a huge part of it.
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ChaosTonyV4 05/16/19 4:20:35 PM #410: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...Nelson_Mandela posted...Jakyl25 posted...I also dont know why you keep trying to shame me into calming down when you know full well that I would fight to the death for abortion rights Lol --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 05/16/19 4:21:26 PM #411: |
From the perspective of "do I support this bill or not?", I feel like whether the bill criminalizes seeking or performing an abortion...doesn't really matter?
If you want our society to allow abortion you're probably going to be upset regardless, and if you don't want our society to allow abortion then you're probably going to be happy regardless, I would think. (Unless one of these options is just very ineffective in terms of achieving the desired impact, but I think you see what I'm trying to say) --- Oh woops. Putting Advokaiser in my sig like this until I think of something more clever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reg 05/16/19 4:23:25 PM #412: |
pyresword posted...
(Unless one of these options is just very ineffective in terms of achieving the desired impact, but I think you see what I'm trying to say) Reminder that banning legal abortion does very little for reducing the actual number of abortions done. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 05/16/19 4:29:03 PM #413: |
Non-abortion link:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/sat-to-give-students-adversity-score-to-capture-social-and-economic-background-11557999000 As an Ivy League graduate (with honors) who grew up in poverty, this absolutely fucking infuriates me. Weighing "adversity" in what are supposed to be the most objective assessments of ability is what will lead to the collapse of our civilization. The best should be rewarded, no matter what their background. Are we going to now give extra points to sports teams who employ the most disadvantaged players (growing up)? --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GildedFool 05/16/19 4:37:20 PM #414: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
The best should be rewarded, no matter what their background. You're right, but unfortunately, too many of "the best" are in schools that are overcrowded meaning they have less time actually engaging with their teachers, they attend schools without the ability to properly supply gifted students with appropriate levels of education, their schools don't have the money to provide the technologies that other students have, teachers are overworked and therefore provide a lesser quality service than they could otherwise. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 05/16/19 4:39:03 PM #415: |
I think that's fine.
It would be terrible if they were obscuring the actual test results by adjusting the SAT scores based on background, but it sounds like they're just introducing a separate metric to also capture a student's background, in addition to their current level of academic ability. So like the test still communicates the student's ability the same as it did before, but they're adding additional information in the form of this adversity metric. Also pointing out universities are still free to choose whether or not this metric even matters depending on what their own values are. Obviously the argument for why this metric is relevant to college admissions goes something like "people from poorer backgrounds are likely to have received worse education, and so they have likely not received as good of preparation and will have their actual likelihood to succeed underestimated by the SAT score." --- Oh woops. Putting Advokaiser in my sig like this until I think of something more clever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 05/16/19 4:39:23 PM #416: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Non-abortion link: This has already been gamed. Rich parents "move" the family to poor neighborhoods when their child enters high school, so that their child can easily be valedictorian and also can claim to come from a poor area. All this kind of bad policy will do is make it harder than it already is for genuine poor kids to get into good colleges, because they will increasingly be forced to compete, during high school, with rich kids and their families who are exploiting the system. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PerfectChaosZ 05/16/19 5:04:37 PM #417: |
The text states that women who have miscarriages will be investigated for a felony. Women who go out of state to get one will be charged. It states its intent plainly, how are you folks not seeing it?
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NFUN 05/16/19 5:24:32 PM #418: |
PerfectChaosZ posted...
The text states that women who have miscarriages will be investigated for a felony. Women who go out of state to get one will be charged. It states its intent plainly, how are you folks not seeing it? that's not the text of the bill, just the logical conclusion of making fetuses persons. --- Video Game Music Contest 13 winner: Terraria Calamity - Servants of the Scourge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 05/16/19 5:33:34 PM #419: |
PerfectChaosZ posted...
The text states that women who have miscarriages will be investigated for a felony. Women who go out of state to get one will be charged. It states its intent plainly, how are you folks not seeing it? Source looks legit. I definitely trust that imgur screenshot over PLANNED PARENTHOOD. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 05/16/19 7:55:25 PM #420: |
But on second thought, that SAT proposal doesn't do much. It sounds like all they are doing is giving students a number based on their zip code. Colleges can and probably are doing that themselves already.
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ChaosTonyV4 05/16/19 7:58:04 PM #421: |
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/444126-poll-overwhelming-majority-of-americans-dont-think-trumps-term-should
Good news, everyone! Only 25% of people polled inexplicably think Trumps first term should be extended by 2 years. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 05/16/19 8:07:18 PM #422: |
I love how 9% of Democrats think Trump's term should be extended by 2 years.
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GildedFool 05/16/19 8:14:10 PM #423: |
"Only 9 percent of respondents who identified as Democrats said Trumps term should be extended by two years."
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StealThisSheen 05/16/19 8:15:32 PM #424: |
red sox 777 posted...
I love how 9% of Democrats think Trump's term should be extended by 2 years. In Kentucky there was a surprisingly large amount of people that would register Democrat but then always vote Republican straight ticket just in the area I lived in, so I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't super uncommon. I'm not sure why. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 05/16/19 8:17:12 PM #425: |
Maybe theres some underground strategy where people think he cant be beaten by November 2020, but he COULD be beaten by November 2022, so thats better than another full term
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Jakyl25 05/16/19 8:33:52 PM #426: |
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/flynn-told-mueller-people-tied-trump-congress-tried-obstruct-probe-n1006666
Do your job Nancy Pelosi, or as I call her, Nancy --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 05/16/19 9:38:03 PM #427: |
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1129108690223546368?s=21
A totally anecdotal observation, which means it is 100% scientifically valid: Every voter I talk to who refers to trump with a nickname is for Biden. Orange man, 45, etc. As in we gotta get the orange man out of there. I would believe this --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nrrr 05/16/19 9:55:19 PM #428: |
Boomer humor is so bad.
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SmartMuffin 05/16/19 9:58:20 PM #429: |
https://twitter.com/TwitterMoments/status/1129157458373382145
The fact that this is "shocking" to anyone just proves how little the left actually pays attention to/understands the right at all. Glenn Beck fired her for continuing to promote pro-abortion views like three years ago, which is exactly how she ended up at Fox in the first place. --- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - https://imgur.com/W66HUUy http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 05/16/19 10:00:47 PM #430: |
SmartMuffin posted...
The fact that this is "shocking" to anyone just proves how little the left actually pays attention to/understands the right at all. Or that someone holds enough abhorrent policies that you just really don't care about when they have something that's right. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 05/16/19 10:04:11 PM #431: |
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1129108690223546368?s=21A totally anecdotal observation, which means it is 100% scientifically valid: Every voter I talk to who refers to trump with a nickname is for Biden. Orange man, 45, etc. As in we gotta get the orange man out of there. on the other hand, 100% of people who ironically call him drumpf are voting Bernie --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 05/16/19 10:05:55 PM #432: |
The left is IGNORANT of the goings-on at The Blaze, conservative medias bellwether outlet
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Jakyl25 05/16/19 10:06:49 PM #433: |
MoogleKupo141 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1129108690223546368?s=21A totally anecdotal observation, which means it is 100% scientifically valid: Every voter I talk to who refers to trump with a nickname is for Biden. Orange man, 45, etc. As in we gotta get the orange man out of there. I assumed Drumpf idiots were included in the Biden bloc I dont want em! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 05/16/19 10:07:06 PM #434: |
Jakyl25 posted...
The left is IGNORANT of the goings-on at The Blaze, conservative medias bellwether outlet it was actually a fairly big mainstream news story back when it happened (mainly just to mock and make fun of Glenn Beck, of course) --- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - https://imgur.com/W66HUUy http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 05/16/19 10:07:30 PM #435: |
Jakyl25 posted...
The left is IGNORANT of the goings-on at The Blaze, conservative medias bellwether outlet It's no NRAtv. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 05/16/19 10:09:26 PM #436: |
Remember when Woke Hipster Glenn Beck was NeverTrump?
Never didnt last long --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 05/16/19 10:26:48 PM #437: |
Jakyl25 posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...Jakyl25 posted...https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1129108690223546368?s=21A totally anecdotal observation, which means it is 100% scientifically valid: Every voter I talk to who refers to trump with a nickname is for Biden. Orange man, 45, etc. As in we gotta get the orange man out of there. no no, I mean people who call him drumpf to make fun of the people who call him drumpf irony boys --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 05/16/19 10:35:28 PM #438: |
There are such people?
Go Warren --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 05/16/19 10:52:53 PM #439: |
MoogleKupo141 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...MoogleKupo141 posted...Jakyl25 posted...https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1129108690223546368?s=21A totally anecdotal observation, which means it is 100% scientifically valid: Every voter I talk to who refers to trump with a nickname is for Biden. Orange man, 45, etc. As in we gotta get the orange man out of there. Oh yeah, the ironic drumpf people are 100% Bernie, thats Chapo shit --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nrrr 05/16/19 11:10:52 PM #440: |
Nrrr go on Chapo
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Corrik7 05/17/19 2:36:21 AM #441: |
Is John Delaney a DINO?
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Ashethan 05/17/19 12:12:49 PM #442: |
Trump: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE WARN ME ABOUT MICHAEL FLYNN?!
Sally Yates, Obama, Comey: *facedesk* --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 05/17/19 2:35:57 PM #443: |
Meanwhile...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/floridas-house-members-demand-changes-to-disclosure-rules-on-election-hacking/2019/ 05/16/8e039672-77f8-11e9-bd25-c989555e7766_story.html Headline says "targeting" but the very first paragraph states that the voter registration database of Washington County, Florida was breached by Russia in 2016. The FBI confirmed that voter databases in two Florida counties were accessed during the 2016 election. WaPo reported (and Politico confirmed this morning) that Washington County was one. The other one isn't known yet. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nrrr 05/17/19 2:46:08 PM #444: |
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/17/politics/bernie-sanders-charter-schools-ban/index.html
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LordoftheMorons 05/17/19 2:54:33 PM #445: |
xp1337 posted...
Meanwhile... Wasnt Bill Nelson crucified for claiming that the Russians had succeeded in hacking Florida voter databases? Looks like he got a pretty raw deal! --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 05/17/19 6:45:15 PM #446: |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/17/gop-lawmaker-used-phrase-consensual-rape-during-abortion-debate-he-says-he-misspoke/
Just look at the url. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 05/17/19 7:18:34 PM #447: |
Nrrr posted...
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/17/politics/bernie-sanders-charter-schools-ban/index.html Hell. Yes. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 05/17/19 7:20:13 PM #448: |
Nrrr posted...
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/17/politics/bernie-sanders-charter-schools-ban/index.html Yeah, good for Bernie robbing from the smart and giving to the dumb! Intellectual communism! --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 05/17/19 7:37:47 PM #449: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Nrrr posted...https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/17/politics/bernie-sanders-charter-schools-ban/index.html I don't see him giving money to you. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 05/17/19 7:39:06 PM #450: |
Imagine thinking calling charter schools "the smart" and public schools "the dumb" is a smart and good thing to say.
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