Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 483: "America's Finest" Nick Aldis

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ExThaNemesis
05/26/19 1:48:44 AM
#453:


After Jericho claims the AEW Championship we're going to get a THANK YOU specifically from you, Rock.
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TheRock1525
05/26/19 2:04:06 AM
#454:


Uh-huh.
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scarletspeed7
05/26/19 2:19:25 AM
#455:


Everything about the main show tonight was fantastic. Already better camerawork than WWE. Production levels right there and competitive. Best staging I've seen in a long-ass time. Music could do with some improvement, and the Tron work was okay but could improve as well. Excellent pacing. TONS of variety. Great stories that made me yearn for more. Excellent, constructive surprises. Feel-good moments.

All in all, I loved this show, and I'm definitely going to be on board for their weekly show at the start.
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Tom Bombadil
05/26/19 8:22:33 AM
#456:


How were the promos and commentary and stuff? We were at a bar and I could only hear about 20% of anything and the captions were in and out
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Lopen
05/26/19 10:52:17 AM
#457:


TheRock1525 posted...
The latter. Mostly because I am very, very over Chris Jericho at this point in his career. And dude's my second favorite wrestler of all time.


WWE making him a pointless jobber the last several appearances trained you well I see.
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RaidenGarai
05/26/19 11:25:03 AM
#458:


And to think, Vince caused all of this due to being useless.

I love it!

Renee is probably going to get fired/demoted soon though, because petty.
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Jakyl25
05/26/19 11:28:59 AM
#459:


Tom Bombadil posted...
How were the promos and commentary and stuff? We were at a bar and I could only hear about 20% of anything and the captions were in and out


Pretty good, especially Codys
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XIII_rocks
05/26/19 12:03:46 PM
#460:


So is the AEW world title going to count as a "world title" do we think?
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Jakyl25
05/26/19 12:09:39 PM
#461:


I gave up counting what is and isnt a World Title years ago
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Jakyl25
05/26/19 12:11:39 PM
#462:


Like just by having that debut show theyre already basically the #5 promotion in the world and on the rise.
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Wanglicious
05/26/19 12:19:07 PM
#463:


i don't think there's a way to not consider it a world title. you literally have multiple former WWE stars, including current ones, jumping ship to that company and they will be fighting for that belt.
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Jakyl25
05/26/19 12:20:43 PM
#464:


So if its supposed to be sportslike, here are the AEW STANDINGS

MENS SINGLES
1.) Chris Jericho 1-0
2.) Adam Page 1-0
3.) Cody 1-0
4.) Kip Sabian 1-0
5.) Kenny Omega 0-1
6.) Dustin Rhodes 0-1
7.) Sammy Guevara 0-1
8.) MJF 0-1
9.) Luchasaurus 0-1
10.) Jimmy Havoc 0-1

WOMENS SINGLES
1.) Britt Baker 1-0
2.) Nyla Rose 0-1
3.) Awesome Kong 0-1
4.) Kylie Rae 0-1

MENS TAG
1.) Young Bucks 1-0
2.) Best Friends 1-0
3.) Lucha Bros 0-1
4.) Angelico/Evans 0-1
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WarThaNemesis2
05/26/19 12:47:17 PM
#465:


Tom Bombadil posted...
How were the promos and commentary and stuff? We were at a bar and I could only hear about 20% of anything and the captions were in and out


JR was okay until Cody/Dustin, at which point it was like his love for wrestling rose from the grave and he became awesome the rest of the way.
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Jakyl25
05/26/19 12:48:17 PM
#466:


He totally brought peak JR for the Moxley debut
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scarletspeed7
05/26/19 12:48:44 PM
#467:


Moxley might be the Stone Cold JR needed.
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Eddv
05/26/19 12:55:17 PM
#468:


Jakyl25 posted...
Like just by having that debut show theyre already basically the #5 promotion in the world and on the rise.

Obviously top 2 are
WWE
NJPW

But who are the others?
AAA and Dragon Gate.

I think they eclipsed ROH and Impact very easily
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Steiner
05/26/19 1:03:21 PM
#469:


dragon gate are not in that conversation. maybe both cmll and aaa?
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ZeroSignal620
05/26/19 1:06:09 PM
#470:


The real question is, did anyone declare themselves The Man last night at Double or Nothing?

Right now in WWE, the current title holder is Bayley
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voltch
05/26/19 1:07:54 PM
#471:


Dragon Gate aren't #2 in Japan.
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Jakyl25
05/26/19 1:29:01 PM
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Nelson_Mandela
05/26/19 1:31:37 PM
#473:


Oh ya go my Trent

Talked to him today and apparently that exceeded even the wildest expectations internally. I fully anticipate that the AEW will be the biggest WWE competitor since WCW.
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Steiner
05/26/19 1:44:49 PM
#474:


they're already that
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Nelson_Mandela
05/26/19 1:46:21 PM
#475:


Steiner posted...
they're already that

TNA was bigger at one point (purely from a media perspective) but I'm sure they'll eclipse that in no time.
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Jakyl25
05/26/19 1:48:52 PM
#476:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Steiner posted...
they're already that

TNA was bigger at one point (purely from a media perspective)


How?

Unless you want to say that it doesnt count until AEW actually debuts on TNT which is fair
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Jakyl25
05/26/19 1:49:38 PM
#477:


Also are you sad that you are no longer his Best Friend?
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Nelson_Mandela
05/26/19 1:49:59 PM
#478:


Jakyl25 posted...
Unless you want to say that it doesnt count until AEW actually debuts on TNT which is fair

That's what I'm saying lol

If they can maintain a network audience for a few months, then they are officially more of a threat than TNA (or even ECW) ever was.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/26/19 1:50:26 PM
#479:


Jakyl25 posted...
Also are you sad that you are no longer his Best Friend?

Haa
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Jakyl25
05/26/19 2:06:29 PM
#480:


Double or Nothing outsold AAA When Worlds Collide, so I think that makes it the biggest USA wrestling crowd aside from WWE or WCW since 86

EDIT: Dammit I already forgot G1 Supercard. Damn you Matt Taven
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WarThaNemesis2
05/26/19 2:07:58 PM
#481:


The PPV numbers on this will be very interesting.

We know there's interest in AEW, but we'll see how viable the PPV model will be.
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ExThaNemesis
05/26/19 5:14:41 PM
#482:


I wish Kenny had used Hopes and Dreams as his theme. This new one is just "ok."
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Jakyl25
05/26/19 8:41:33 PM
#483:


Cody getting some love from Congresswoman AOC

https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1132759023281934337?s=21

Now Seph hates AEW!
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Jakyl25
05/26/19 8:44:52 PM
#484:


Also ExTha, apparently Kennys outfit was specifically from an anime called Sword Art Online, not Sephiroth
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Strife2
05/26/19 9:12:17 PM
#485:


And now everyone hates Kenny. SAO is widely considered one of the more mainstream, yet "divisive" shows in anime history.

Kenny was probably going for notoriety and looks over taste.
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Tom Bombadil
05/26/19 11:35:05 PM
#486:


Jakyl25 posted...
Kennys outfit was specifically from an anime called Sword Art Online


Nvm back to being a new day mark
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Strife2
05/26/19 11:39:22 PM
#487:


^See what I mean?
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Lopen
05/27/19 12:13:05 AM
#488:


To be fair I would say peak TNA was a bigger deal than current AEW is, or even AEW "with one episode of a show on TNT confirmed" is. When they actually went on Monday nights for a while and had the backing of Hogan and Bischoff and the full hype of Spike for a while, if they actually brought a show worth watching at that point they could've done something. I mean it's not like TNA didn't have some major WWE guys jump to them.

But yeah it's just WWE is that much weaker right now so it's closer than WWE/TNA ever was straight out of the box.
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scarletspeed7
05/27/19 12:25:55 AM
#489:


Lopen you should be in Discord because it's more fun to talk about wrestling there.
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NBIceman
05/27/19 1:51:49 AM
#490:


If you believe peak TNA was a bigger deal than AEW right now you have to believe TNA could've sold out a 12000 seat building.

I see where you're coming from but I don't think that's a theory I can get onboard with.
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Steiner
05/27/19 6:10:26 AM
#491:


Mox confirmed as the NJPW Time's Up guy, will face Juice for the US title at Dominion
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scarletspeed7
05/27/19 12:42:38 PM
#492:


Dean Ambrose being the hottest free agent is really coming to fruition
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Jakyl25
05/27/19 1:00:44 PM
#493:


He was burnt out and needed a break!
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Lopen
05/27/19 1:05:36 PM
#494:


NBIceman posted...
If you believe peak TNA was a bigger deal than AEW right now you have to believe TNA could've sold out a 12000 seat building.

I see where you're coming from but I don't think that's a theory I can get onboard with.


TNA with the right ratio of hype to shows and the current wrestling landscape could. It's easier to sell out 12000 seat buildings when you're hyping your show for 6 months and the competition is actively driving people to an alternative.
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Lopen
05/27/19 1:08:23 PM
#495:


Also I'm always in Discord.

Always waiting for the right time to strike...
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Jakyl25
05/27/19 1:14:58 PM
#496:


Lopen posted...
NBIceman posted...
If you believe peak TNA was a bigger deal than AEW right now you have to believe TNA could've sold out a 12000 seat building.

I see where you're coming from but I don't think that's a theory I can get onboard with.


TNA with the right ratio of hype to shows and the current wrestling landscape could. It's easier to sell out 12000 seat buildings when you're hyping your show for 6 months and the competition is actively driving people to an alternative.


There is literally nothing TNA could do today to sell 12000 tickets. The Impact name is too poisoned
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Lopen
05/27/19 1:40:26 PM
#497:


Not today no. I'm saying if 2010 TNA somehow took a time machine to today they could sell out that building.
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ShatteredElysium
05/27/19 1:41:26 PM
#498:


Lopen posted...
To be fair I would say peak TNA was a bigger deal than current AEW is, or even AEW "with one episode of a show on TNT confirmed" is. When they actually went on Monday nights for a while and had the backing of Hogan and Bischoff and the full hype of Spike for a while, if they actually brought a show worth watching at that point they could've done something. I mean it's not like TNA didn't have some major WWE guys jump to them.

But yeah it's just WWE is that much weaker right now so it's closer than WWE/TNA ever was straight out of the box.


And the sad thing is that the TNA product was significantly better just before all that happened. It was when they went to all the old WWE guys and went on Monday nights that things were shit. Like maybe a year or something before that it was great
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NBIceman
05/27/19 1:44:50 PM
#499:


Lopen posted...
Not today no. I'm saying if 2010 TNA somehow took a time machine to today they could sell out that building.

Man I could not disagree more strongly with this.
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Lopen
05/27/19 1:46:16 PM
#500:


The more sad thing is TNA just after that (like a year or so after, once the Aces & Eights storyline finished up basically) was great too. Like they just crapped the bed in the worst way at the point they had the most hype behind them.
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