Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 483: "America's Finest" Nick Aldis

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/20/19 11:52:23 AM
#303:


Steiner posted...
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Speaking of, the running theory is that in another desperate plea to get people to watch their show, Mick Foley is announcing the Hardcore Title tonight.


Never mind running theory, the announced facts are mick foley is introducing a new title tonight. At the very least that's them trying to tease a hardcore title

Well, I meant the running theory part is that he's announcing the Hardcore Title.
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Steiner
05/20/19 11:58:42 AM
#304:


yeah all i meant was it doesn't take more than one braincell floating around to figure out what they're trying to allude to. an idea that i'd hate if true and hate they teased people with if false!
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scarletspeed7
05/20/19 11:58:50 AM
#305:


ShatteredElysium posted...
I'd literally rather see Elias guitar nonsense before seeing more Lesnar and I always switch the channel over once Elias comes out

Man I can't disagree with this more. Elias is a nothing character with nothing storylines and is a complete waste of time. Brock doesn't waste your time in the slightest and is the epitome of the 'something special' that WWE lacks without him.
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scarletspeed7
05/20/19 11:59:37 AM
#306:


Steiner posted...
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Speaking of, the running theory is that in another desperate plea to get people to watch their show, Mick Foley is announcing the Hardcore Title tonight.


Never mind running theory, the announced facts are mick foley is introducing a new title tonight. At the very least that's them trying to tease a hardcore title

Yeah, we were guessing it was the Hardcore Title right out of the gate. I think it's definitely an attempt to at least make it look like the Hardcore Title is coming back.
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Eddv
05/20/19 12:12:48 PM
#307:


Its WWE ripping off TNA by debuting a Legends Title - with former TNA Legends Champion Mock Foley there to kick things off!
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Lopen
05/20/19 12:19:41 PM
#308:


Make fun of the Legends Title all you want but I'll take it over the US, IC, or Raw/SD Tag Titles in their current state any day.
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Maniac64
05/20/19 12:19:56 PM
#309:


Should be 24/7 rules with the network live showing challenges.
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Eddv
05/20/19 12:30:55 PM
#310:


Lopen posted...
Make fun of the Legends Title all you want but I'll take it over the US, IC, or Raw/SD Tag Titles in their current state any day.


I mean its not even a terrible idea.

Have the old timers work safe fanservicey houseshow matches. Have one that can travel some like Mick or someone and when they tour near some random old timers stomping grounds they turn up on raw and challenge for the title.
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Lopen
05/20/19 12:33:20 PM
#311:


I basically like any title that serves a distinct purpose that isn't to be a participation award, so I don't even hate the idea of bringing the HC title back in theory.

On the other hand meaningless titles are abundant on the roster so it's like, we're creating a coat rack either way so who cares.
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ffmasterjose
05/20/19 12:58:29 PM
#312:


I'm hoping for the European Championship - Having Foley introduce it is a swerve to make you think its gonna be the Hardcore title!
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ninkendo
05/20/19 1:06:46 PM
#313:


I think it's the saudi arabian title to be defended exclusively at saudi events
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Tom Bombadil
05/20/19 1:14:46 PM
#314:


didn't braun already win that
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ninkendo
05/20/19 2:34:18 PM
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_PandaMaster_
05/20/19 3:39:44 PM
#316:


lmao
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Jakyl25
05/20/19 4:01:18 PM
#317:


Guys, all you would have had to do with Bayley not cashing in on Becky is a segment where shes hurt from being in a LADDER MATCH and in the middle of getting treatment

She has a whole year
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ShatteredElysium
05/20/19 4:02:43 PM
#318:


Yeah but then they would have to waste time and creative on a womens money in the bank briefcase and story. Probably not a coincidence that they did immediate cash ins for the womens MitB
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Jakyl25
05/20/19 4:02:52 PM
#319:


Also Brock should have gone backstage and found Rollins and dragged him to the ring to cash in
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ShatteredElysium
05/20/19 4:03:51 PM
#320:


I want Sami Zayn to come out and argue it's his briefcase as it's his slot that won. I feel this may have happened before? I'm not sure.
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Lopen
05/20/19 4:10:04 PM
#321:


Pretty sure it's only happened because people wanted Lana to do that when Becky Lynch did the same thing to her.

I sure do miss when people who were in matches won them.
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Jakyl25
05/20/19 4:15:15 PM
#322:


I loved how in the cage match Shane basically kicked Mizs ass straight up but we were supposed to believe he was afraid of him
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Jakyl25
05/20/19 4:43:42 PM
#323:


Dave says they moved the Cruiserweight match to the main card because they thought the Miz vs Shane match would be so hot it would need a cooldown match afterwards so people wouldnt be dead for the Becky matches

Ok
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Lopen
05/20/19 4:49:32 PM
#324:


I'm really not sure how they could've made the Shane/Miz feud work with heel Shane... I've been against it from the beginning and yeah. I mean the problem with Shane as a heel is he routinely throws himself off of high objects, but he's also a 'coward' so like, the good guy needs to be giving him a thrashing.

Then you've got Miz who is the opposite of intimidating, usually using his cunning to get wins.

It's just a really weird pairing. It would've worked better if Miz turned on Shane but like... really should've just let the team play out a while more I think. The SD Tag division needed, and still needs, bodies.

Like I guess the only way to really do it is have Miz shown to be a better wrestler, Shane not being intimidated because what can Miz really do to him other than get a "meaningless" pinfall victory, but Miz goads him into a no bs match like a cage then outmaneuvers him politically somehow and makes it so that Shane has to win the match or else he loses his position of power or something.

Then Shane starts to panic because while he's good at dishing out and taking punishment his ability to win matches is suspect.

But yeah I dunno what they were thinking.
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imthestuntman
05/20/19 5:04:00 PM
#325:


Not sure if this was posted here, but it is a wrestling thing that has been on the front page of reddit for awhile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/bqx13k/ashley_massaro_recently_died_her_affidavit_when/

Super super incredibly fucked up. Essentially Ashley Massaro was drugged and raped by us soldiers in kuwait... and Vince McMahon covered it up...
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scarletspeed7
05/20/19 5:08:21 PM
#326:


Yes, we've discussed this.
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ZeroSignal620
05/20/19 5:19:35 PM
#327:


Cash-ins IMO from best to worst...

Edge (NYR 2006)
RVD
Rollins
Punk (Extreme 2009)
Del Rio
Ziggler
Edge (2007)
Punk (2008)
Bliss
Miz
Ambrose
Carmella
Kane
Bryan
Corbin (only for the massive LOLs)
Bayley
Orton
Swagger
Cena
Sheamus
Strowman
Sandow
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Jakyl25
05/20/19 6:06:05 PM
#328:


From the Observer site

It is believed the new championship will be called the Wild Card title, which can be defended at any time, and will be recognized across brands.


Yuck
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Strife2
05/20/19 6:42:25 PM
#329:


God...damn...you...Vince.

This guy is just handing fans to other promotions at this point.
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TheRock1525
05/20/19 6:43:18 PM
#330:


Jakyl25 posted...
From the Observer site

It is believed the new championship will be called the Wild Card title, which can be defended at any time, and will be recognized across brands.


Yuck


This is unironically the most sports-like thing they've done in years.

MLB and NFL have wild cards!
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Strife2
05/20/19 6:46:43 PM
#331:


My rankings

Edge (NYR 2006)
RVD
Rollins
Ziggler
Punk (Extreme 2009)
Miz
Ambrose
Edge (2007)
Punk (2008)
Kane
Bryan
Bayley
Del Rio
Carmella
Bliss
Orton
Swagger
Sheamus
Cena
Strowman
Sandow
Corbin
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TheRock1525
05/20/19 6:48:37 PM
#332:


So apparently PAC's issue wasn't that he didn't want to lose to Page. He was actually supposed to go over.

He didn't want to lose to Kenny Omega down the road as part of a storyline starting with Double or Nothing.
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Steiner
05/20/19 6:49:41 PM
#333:


he just didn't want to lose, anywhere to anyone, while dragon gate champion, and there's no end date in sight on that reign
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TheRock1525
05/20/19 6:52:15 PM
#334:


Steiner posted...
he just didn't want to lose, anywhere to anyone, while dragon gate champion, and there's no end date in sight on that reign


Basically this man had to job his title to Enzo Amore and will now never job a title again.
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WarThaNemesis2
05/20/19 6:54:38 PM
#335:


TheRock1525 posted...
Steiner posted...
he just didn't want to lose, anywhere to anyone, while dragon gate champion, and there's no end date in sight on that reign


Basically this man had to job his title to Enzo Amore and will now never job a title again.


PAC is very loyal to Dragon Gate and won't make their title look bad to get himself a payday.
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Steiner
05/20/19 6:55:41 PM
#336:


it's sure going to make that dragon gate title change down the line make news. i have nothing but respect for pac for how he's handled himself since leaving wwe - this is aew's fault if they made plans knowing full well what pac's deal is
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NBIceman
05/20/19 6:58:59 PM
#337:


Steiner posted...
he just didn't want to lose, anywhere to anyone, while dragon gate champion, and there's no end date in sight on that reign

The end in sight is Kobe World where he'll drop it to Ben-K, presumably.
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TheRock1525
05/20/19 8:07:05 PM
#338:


WarThaNemesis2 posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Steiner posted...
he just didn't want to lose, anywhere to anyone, while dragon gate champion, and there's no end date in sight on that reign


Basically this man had to job his title to Enzo Amore and will now never job a title again.


PAC is very loyal to Dragon Gate and won't make their title look bad to get himself a payday.


I can't imagine it would make their title "look bad" if he was losing to Kenny fucking Omega.
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Jakyl25
05/20/19 8:07:58 PM
#339:


It means theres someone out there in another company better than your Champion
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ninkendo
05/20/19 8:08:25 PM
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NBIceman
05/20/19 8:11:27 PM
#341:


Jakyl25 posted...
It means theres someone out there in another company better than your Champion

A guy who was the top champ in your rival company just six months ago and is still listed on their roster page, no less.
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ninkendo
05/20/19 8:26:34 PM
#342:


Brock is absolutely cashing in on both tonight

it was always in the contract just no one ever read it
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TheRock1525
05/20/19 9:40:24 PM
#343:


Jakyl25 posted...
It means theres someone out there in another company better than your Champion


We already know that.
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ninkendo
05/20/19 10:03:48 PM
#344:


Raw is now X RATED during the 3rd hour
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TheRock1525
05/20/19 10:58:59 PM
#345:


So it's literally the Hardcore Title without the novelty or charm.
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/20/19 11:07:33 PM
#346:


I hear we get the PG era "humor" though!
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TheRock1525
05/20/19 11:31:40 PM
#347:


To be fair, if R-Truth is the Crash Holly of this title it'll be somewhat entertaining.
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Jakyl25
05/20/19 11:40:01 PM
#348:


Cole is INCENSED that the person holding MitB will make us wait to find out when he will cash in
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TheRock1525
05/21/19 12:17:36 AM
#349:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqGKOmVDpVA" data-time="


I love these so fucking much.
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TheRock1525
05/21/19 12:23:32 AM
#350:


Also Cesaro got a new theme because it was super weird of him coming out to Sheamus' old theme.
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Jakyl25
05/21/19 12:24:10 AM
#351:


This weeks Firefly Funhouse was nothing though

A few seconds of good creepy kid stuff aside
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TheRock1525
05/21/19 12:28:53 AM
#352:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzwllfktWRc" data-time="


More Xavier doing stuff backstage during PPVs please.
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