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HeroDelTiempo17 06/19/19 6:21:28 PM #352: |
Nrrr posted...
There hasn't even been one debate and most people are barely paying attention. These are all fantasy scenarios and worthless to think about. Bernie has a right to make the case that he is the most feared candidate by those who are everything Democratic voters stand against. The only reason Warren voters are offended is because it is a good point. I'm not offended, it's a great point and I'd love for him to prove it. I just think he'll have a hard time doing so while having to fight the establishment on everything. I'm not even ruling out supporting him in the primary, he just currently isn't my first choice. --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nrrr 06/19/19 6:44:36 PM #353: |
The whole point is to fight the establishment, and his willingness to do so is why they are most afraid of him.
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kevwaffles 06/19/19 7:21:31 PM #354: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Dancedreamer posted...Sanders took the bait. Ummm, read that again? --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dancedreamer 06/19/19 7:46:22 PM #355: |
Elizabeth Warren says she's open to Sex Work Decriminalization. Nice to see a mainstream candidate with a chance to be open about this.
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ChaosTonyV4 06/19/19 9:04:25 PM #356: |
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449442-biden-doubles-down-on-remarks-about-segregationist-senators-apologize-for
Starting to think we dont have to worry about Biden winning this nomination. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CelesMyUserName 06/19/19 9:07:45 PM #357: |
Dancedreamer posted...
Elizabeth Warren says she's open to Sex Work Decriminalization. Nice to see a mainstream candidate with a chance to be open about this. I believe Harris has gone beyond that, saying she outright supports it. Though it is a bit of a response to her past as a prosecutor, but nevertheless. ChaosTonyV4 posted... https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449442-biden-doubles-down-on-remarks-about-segregationist-senators-apologize-for Yeap Biden's finally actually entered the race instead of staying out. That's why he took so long to announce! --- https://imgtc.com/i/1LkkaGU.jpg somethin somethin hung somethin horse somethin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 06/19/19 9:16:33 PM #358: |
God I can't wait for this Democratic primary to be over. Watching every candidate try to out-liberal the other is just pitiful, knowing that they will walk back virtually all of these positions in the general election (and in office).
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red sox 777 06/19/19 9:22:58 PM #359: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
God I can't wait for this Democratic primary to be over. Watching every candidate try to out-liberal the other is just pitiful, knowing that they will walk back virtually all of these positions in the general election (and in office). You know who didn't walk back any of his positions in the general? The President. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 06/19/19 9:28:01 PM #360: |
WTF Biden. Just read what he said to donors today. That is about as bad as "basket of deplorables" and "47% are guaranteed to vote for Obama."
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Nelson_Mandela 06/19/19 9:29:35 PM #361: |
red sox 777 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...God I can't wait for this Democratic primary to be over. Watching every candidate try to out-liberal the other is just pitiful, knowing that they will walk back virtually all of these positions in the general election (and in office). I mean generally Republicans aren't trying to lie to everyone in the primary. I guess that's why they are better at elections. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 06/19/19 9:30:54 PM #362: |
red sox 777 posted...
WTF Biden. Just read what he said to donors today. That is about as bad as "basket of deplorables" and "47% are guaranteed to vote for Obama." Because, like "basket of deplorables", it's being taken completely out of context? --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 06/19/19 9:31:16 PM #363: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
red sox 777 posted...Nelson_Mandela posted...God I can't wait for this Democratic primary to be over. Watching every candidate try to out-liberal the other is just pitiful, knowing that they will walk back virtually all of these positions in the general election (and in office). Trump lies about literally everything --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 06/19/19 9:31:45 PM #364: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449442-biden-doubles-down-on-remarks-about-segregationist-senators-apologize-for "Sometimes you have to work with bigots to get good things done. Sometimes you have to work around them." That's literally solid advice for anyone in life, and probably why liberals tend to never accomplish much personally or politically. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 06/19/19 9:34:35 PM #365: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
red sox 777 posted...Nelson_Mandela posted...God I can't wait for this Democratic primary to be over. Watching every candidate try to out-liberal the other is just pitiful, knowing that they will walk back virtually all of these positions in the general election (and in office). I hadn't thought about that before but I think that's right. Even Romney didn't flip flop as much an average Democrat and no other Republican nominee has come close. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 06/19/19 9:34:48 PM #366: |
LordoftheMorons posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...red sox 777 posted...Nelson_Mandela posted...God I can't wait for this Democratic primary to be over. Watching every candidate try to out-liberal the other is just pitiful, knowing that they will walk back virtually all of these positions in the general election (and in office). Yeah but he's consistent at least --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 06/19/19 9:36:46 PM #367: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449442-biden-doubles-down-on-remarks-about-segregationist-senators-apologize-for That's not damaging. What's damaging is him saying he needs super rich donors and if he's elected, nothing will change, so they don't have to worry. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 06/19/19 9:40:23 PM #368: |
red sox 777 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...ChaosTonyV4 posted...https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449442-biden-doubles-down-on-remarks-about-segregationist-senators-apologize-for It's such a shame that the truth is now "damaging" Why do we expect honest politicians if this is how we treat them? --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 06/19/19 9:41:10 PM #369: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
red sox 777 posted...Nelson_Mandela posted...God I can't wait for this Democratic primary to be over. Watching every candidate try to out-liberal the other is just pitiful, knowing that they will walk back virtually all of these positions in the general election (and in office). So they were all telling the truth that Trump is unfit for office and cannot win the nomination if we want dignity as a nation? Good to know --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 06/19/19 9:43:10 PM #370: |
red sox 777 posted...
That's not damaging. What's damaging is him saying he needs super rich donors and if he's elected, nothing will change, so they don't have to worry. As I said, if you read the full quote by "nothing will change" he means that if he raises taxes on the rich (which he plans to do) their quality of life will not suffer. --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 06/19/19 9:43:47 PM #371: |
"I'm a huge piece of shit." "Well at least he's honest."
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red sox 777 06/19/19 9:47:45 PM #372: |
LordoftheMorons posted...
red sox 777 posted...That's not damaging. What's damaging is him saying he needs super rich donors and if he's elected, nothing will change, so they don't have to worry. Because he'll make it up to them in other ways. Maybe the tax rates go up but they get new deductions. Maybe they get to do more business offshore. Maybe they get more corporate welfare. They'll be taken care of even if the proletariats are told taxes are going up on the rich. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 06/19/19 9:49:40 PM #373: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...red sox 777 posted...Nelson_Mandela posted...God I can't wait for this Democratic primary to be over. Watching every candidate try to out-liberal the other is just pitiful, knowing that they will walk back virtually all of these positions in the general election (and in office). That's what they honestly believed at the time. But then the voters said otherwise so they reevaluated their positions. That's very different from lying. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ashethan 06/19/19 9:52:16 PM #374: |
red sox 777 posted...
That's what they honestly believed at the time. But then the voters said otherwise so they reevaluated their positions. That's very different from lying. Right. It's called "Hypocrisy" which is a central Tennant to Conservativism. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CelesMyUserName 06/19/19 9:58:15 PM #375: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...red sox 777 posted...Nelson_Mandela posted...God I can't wait for this Democratic primary to be over. Watching every candidate try to out-liberal the other is just pitiful, knowing that they will walk back virtually all of these positions in the general election (and in office). remember when Trump said he'd raise taxes on rich guys like himself --- https://imgtc.com/i/1LkkaGU.jpg somethin somethin hung somethin horse somethin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 06/19/19 9:59:57 PM #376: |
Remember when he humped that chair at the second debate?
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Inviso 06/19/19 10:01:16 PM #377: |
Remember when he held up a gay pride flag to show how good he would be for the LGBTQ+ community?
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Jakyl25 06/19/19 10:01:34 PM #378: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449442-biden-doubles-down-on-remarks-about-segregationist-senators-apologize-for At least you admit there are so many bigots in America its impossible to avoid having to deal with them --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 06/19/19 10:02:09 PM #379: |
Ashethan posted...
red sox 777 posted...That's what they honestly believed at the time. But then the voters said otherwise so they reevaluated their positions. That's very different from lying. This is why conservatives have accepted Trump as one of their own even though his lifestyle and history have been so antithetical to most conservative ideals. At hypocrisy, Trump is truly world class. Most conservatives need months to shift between contradicting beliefs without lying. The skilled can switch back and forth in days or hours. The exceptional can hold 2 contradictory beliefs at the same time and fully believe both. Trump can hold 5 or 6 or 7 or who knows how many contradictory beliefs at any time? Truly world class. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 06/19/19 10:03:30 PM #380: |
CelesMyUserName posted...
Jakyl25 posted...Nelson_Mandela posted...red sox 777 posted...Nelson_Mandela posted...God I can't wait for this Democratic primary to be over. Watching every candidate try to out-liberal the other is just pitiful, knowing that they will walk back virtually all of these positions in the general election (and in office). He did. He got rid of deductions for state and local taxes above 10k. A lot of rich New Yorkers had their taxes go up. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 06/19/19 10:05:27 PM #381: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...ChaosTonyV4 posted...https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449442-biden-doubles-down-on-remarks-about-segregationist-senators-apologize-for Of course! Most are not white too --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nrrr 06/19/19 10:06:50 PM #382: |
Almost all Americans have very contradictory political beliefs though. This is because Americans don't have any ideology and are basically just reacting to things.
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NFUN 06/19/19 10:08:55 PM #383: |
Inviso posted...
Remember when he held up a gay pride flag to show how good he would be for the LGBTQ+ community? it wasn't even a gay pride flag it was upside down --- Video Game Music Contest 13 winner: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Torna - Battle!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 06/19/19 10:10:02 PM #384: |
I know this isn't new, but what an incredibly bad person Seph is.
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Nrrr 06/19/19 10:14:35 PM #385: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I know this isn't new, but what an incredibly bad person Seph is. A lot of what conservatives mean when they talk about freedom is to feel free from the burdens of growing as a person, having to consider others, or to share a social responsibility. They feel free the more they just indulge their lizard brain. That's why Trump is the perfect embodiment of conservatism, a rich guy whose never been denied anything and spends his entire life indulging his every whim. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 06/19/19 10:16:25 PM #386: |
NFUN posted...
Inviso posted...Remember when he held up a gay pride flag to show how good he would be for the LGBTQ+ community? VIBGYOR --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 06/19/19 10:29:49 PM #387: |
So let me get this straight
Most bigots are non-white Most non-white people are liberals Liberals dont accomplish anything in life because they cant work with bigots Impeccable logic --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nrrr 06/19/19 10:33:49 PM #388: |
You don't need logic if it feels right. Just give in to your lizard brain, nerd.
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red sox 777 06/19/19 10:33:50 PM #389: |
Jakyl25 posted...
So let me get this straight I don't think Seph has ever claimed #2 and I submit that is clearly false. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nrrr 06/19/19 10:35:35 PM #390: |
red sox 777 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...So let me get this straight I mean they clearly are liberal voters. Perhaps if they were not part of a white supremacist society... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 06/19/19 10:35:57 PM #391: |
red sox 777 posted...
Im wondering what your angle is on this? I can clarify that I mean in present day America if that helps --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 06/19/19 10:37:50 PM #392: |
At the very least, the logic is that liberals dont accomplish anything because they cant work alongside all those moderate-to-conservative bigoted people of color
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red sox 777 06/19/19 10:38:51 PM #393: |
Jakyl25 posted...
red sox 777 posted... Just because someone votes for Democrats, it doesn't mean they're a liberal. Most of the non-white people I know myself who support Democrats I would not classify as liberal. They're too reasonable and non-ideological to be liberal. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 06/19/19 10:41:45 PM #394: |
A liberal is someone who reads a Paul Krugman blog post and thinks that he is now qualified to argue with someone who has actually studied economics, and contemptuously dismiss their arguments.
This also includes people who went to private universities in the #20-50 range in the US News rankings and believe they learned a lot, when in fact they were able to coast by with A- grades as long as they could put together anything halfway coherent. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 06/19/19 10:45:51 PM #395: |
red sox 777 posted...
A liberal is someone who reads a Paul Krugman blog post and thinks that he is now qualified to argue with someone who has actually studied economics, and contemptuously dismiss their arguments. So like...AOC? --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 06/19/19 10:46:31 PM #396: |
In actual news, the House passed (as part of an appropriations bill) an end to the 2001 AUMF... for the first time ever. (No Republicans voted in favor.)
of course it'll die in the senate but progress! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 06/19/19 10:46:34 PM #397: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
red sox 777 posted...A liberal is someone who reads a Paul Krugman blog post and thinks that he is now qualified to argue with someone who has actually studied economics, and contemptuously dismiss their arguments. I've consistently said AOC is sharp and that I like her as a politician. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ashethan 06/19/19 10:49:02 PM #398: |
A conservative is someone who reads nothing and thinks they are qualified to argue with people on every subject ever. If they do read, they probably read Ayn Rand and the Bible.
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red sox 777 06/19/19 10:51:51 PM #399: |
If liberals read deep, multi-layered texts like the Bible more often, they would probably be better able to empathize with others and understand complex arguments, which would help them win elections.
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xp1337 06/19/19 10:56:02 PM #400: |
Ashethan posted...
they probably read Ayn Rand in depressingly relevant news When SCOTUS released opinions back on Monday, in an opinion authored by Kavanaugh he wrote, "Some people have said, 'the larger the government, the smaller the individual'" (quoting from memory may have a word or two wrong) he didn't cite it so a journalist tried to find the source of the quote. They couldn't get an exact match and the only one they got was a Randian twitter account. (They found a similar quote from someone that they assume is the original source) but... yeah... --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inviso 06/19/19 10:56:20 PM #401: |
red sox 777 posted...
If liberals read deep, multi-layered texts like the Bible more often, they would probably be better able to empathize with others and understand complex arguments, which would help them win elections. If ANYONE reads the Bible, it's liberals. After all, they're the ones who constantly have to quote scripture when conservatives just parrot bigoted talking points about why gays and abortion are evil. I doubt most conservatives have ever read the Bible...or else they wouldn't support Pharisees like the Republican Party. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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