Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 3: Is the prologue over yet?

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Camarija
06/19/19 7:21:22 PM
#401:


##vote: lea3lea

was that meant to be posted in this thread?

it sounded like you were requesting a coordinated attack on a Townie
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RogueNoble
06/19/19 7:22:36 PM
#402:


What we did to HB, a coordinated train that resulted in much info, we could do to multiple players.

##Unvote

##Vote: Lolo

Sure, why not. @@@@
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RogueNoble
06/19/19 7:23:04 PM
#403:


Camarija posted...
vote: lea3lea

was that meant to be posted in this thread?

it sounded like you were requesting a coordinated attack on a Townie


Oops, yeah, you got me.

Butterfingers :(
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Corrik7
06/19/19 7:23:32 PM
#404:


RogueNoble posted...
What we did to HB, a coordinated train that resulted in much info, we could do to multiple players.

##Unvote

##Vote: Lolo

Sure, why not. @@@@

I would love to, but Sir Chris has not authorized this vote from me at the current time.
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Camarija
06/19/19 7:24:06 PM
#405:


RogueNoble posted...
Camarija posted...
vote: lea3lea

was that meant to be posted in this thread?

it sounded like you were requesting a coordinated attack on a Townie


Oops, yeah, you got me.

Butterfingers :(


... if this is true I will be sad and feel bad for you :(
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RogueNoble
06/19/19 7:24:47 PM
#406:


You're voting me instead of HB like Chris, I know you have a heart that yearns for freedom, Corrikbot
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RogueNoble
06/19/19 7:26:03 PM
#407:


Camarija, this is going to sound insulting, but I swear I don't mean it to me. Would you say the way you're writing this game is your usual personality? Or are you kind of putting on a bit of a show here?
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Camarija
06/19/19 7:28:07 PM
#408:


RogueNoble posted...
Camarija, this is going to sound insulting, but I swear I don't mean it to me. Would you say the way you're writing this game is your usual personality? Or are you kind of putting on a bit of a show here?


I derive entertainment from mild playing of roles

Each game I'll try something new out, but underneath the mild facades is a person who yearns for the masochistic pleasures of mafia
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RogueNoble
06/19/19 7:29:08 PM
#409:


Gotcha. I don't quite know you well enough to tell when you're joking or not yet.
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HanOfTheNekos
06/19/19 7:30:59 PM
#410:


Votals (as of post #409)

(4) Hb: Chris, (Lea), puns, Tom, (Corrik), Death, (Cam)
(2) Lopen: Ulti, Hb, (SBell)
(2) Sultan: pezloco, SBell
(2) Lea: (Cam), Corrik, Cam
(1) Sir Chris: (Tom), Ben, (puns)
(1) Cam: Lopen
(1) Dowolf: (Cam), Cam
(1) Ben: (Chris), (Corrik), (Lea), dowolf
(1) MZero: (Lea), (Lea)
(1) Lolo: Lea
(0) Corrik: (Sultan)
(0) SBell: (Corrik)
(0) No Lynch: (pezloco), (Tom), (Lopen)
(0) Luis: (Lea)
(0) Ulti: (Lopen), (Hb)
(0) Puns: (Lea), (Corrik), (Ulti)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to reach majority! The day will end on Thursday at 9 pm EDT, or if majority is reached, whichever comes first.

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Lopen
06/19/19 7:31:30 PM
#411:


I think it's ironic that Cam town cleared me for asking about incorrect vote syntax and then proceeds to vote with incorrect vote syntax roughly 17000 times

Some sort of next level play or coincidence you decide.
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RogueNoble
06/19/19 7:32:55 PM
#412:


We know that Lolo and Eaed have checked in.

We also know they have not seen fit to make even the fluffiest post about the game.

Back in my day, we punished the inactive lurkers in glorious crusade.
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pezloco
06/19/19 7:33:30 PM
#413:


htaeD posted...
Also pardon my usual late night distractions.

That said, someone asked me to look at Sultans point on Tom and all i found was Sultan being wishy washy about him. And yeah thats not fantastic kind of opinion to have.
But I feel like Missed something.


I asked for it. My thought was that Sultan posted a big catch up post. In it he had a few reads that were mostly regurgitations of other players. But one that he put forward as his own was a read on Tom as possibly scummy because Fluff. This felt like an easy cop out for a scum player who needs to make sure they don't just call everyone town. I was asking to see if anyone else got any similar vibe at all.

****

I'm clearly catching up, but I doubt I'll get through the 3+ pages of new content before bedtime for my kids. But what I see is Chris going off still about HB. I'm still not sure I understand his original reasoning. But it's also Chris and D1. I think tunneling is bad for town, hence trying to generate content around Sultan.

Chris is skeptical about Lea. I like her still. I think I see a very similar approach to my own. She's more willing to vote than I am, but I definitely like her approach to the game (I lost it by the way).

****

Speaking of Sultan I'm also curious why he decided to unvote Corrik as he left? I made an opposite choice. I don't think this is necessarily a tell in either direction, I'm legitimately interested in the reasoning behind this as I want to understand his perspective on the game better.

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dowolf posted...
although actually, a lot of my believing hb is town is that i assumed hes not experienced enough to do things like the six second later oh fuck and clai potter as nilla. is this assumption correct?


I asked Red a similar question. I asked if HB should know the difference in something that I thought a not as skilled player would be confused by. Red said he absolutely should know the difference. Despite that, I'm still getting a similar feeling from him.

Lolo_Guru posted...
So hey.

Is this a meaty 2.5 topics, or a fluffy 2.5 topics?


There's that word again! @htaeD ISO Fluffy again!

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I've been reading the Cam v Corrik stuff. It took up a lot of posts but it's not that interesting. I'm more interested in Dowolf and Cam, which was buried inside all the Cam v Corrik stuff.

@Camarija can you point out your initial read on dowolf?

I think this is current through page 7?
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Hbthebattle
06/19/19 7:35:10 PM
#414:


RogueNoble posted...
The HB plan went so well, I don't know why people don't want to coordinate another machine gun assault. :(

What
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RogueNoble
06/19/19 7:35:27 PM
#415:


I wonder if Lolo intentionally used the word fluffy as a sly joke after reading the topics (but not posting)

How deep does this fluffspiracy go????
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Camarija
06/19/19 7:35:51 PM
#416:


@pezloco

Topic 2, first 50 posts

Camarija posted...
Pez is fine

##UNVOTE

##VOTE dowolf


Camarija posted...
Pez is fine

##UNVOTE

##VOTE dowolf


Camarija posted...
Pez is fine

##UNVOTE

##VOTE dowolf


Camarija posted...
Pez is fine

##UNVOTE

##VOTE dowolf
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RogueNoble
06/19/19 7:35:56 PM
#417:


Hbthebattle posted...
RogueNoble posted...
The HB plan went so well, I don't know why people don't want to coordinate another machine gun assault. :(

What


Are you not entertained?
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Camarija
06/19/19 7:36:46 PM
#418:


omg, the other quotes didn't work

ugh

Camarija posted...
Leafeon13N posted...
What did dowolf do


They seem unengaged

Asking leading questions that don't go anywhere in particular

Overall I've seen low impact from that player and I'd like to increase the pressure for something new and jazzy

Camarija posted...
dowolf posted...
Corrik7 posted...

As scum or town, he dies today without claiming his actual role. He doesn't get away with that fake claim today.

wait what.


dowolf posted...
benjamin3740 posted...

I feel the levels of shady run a little deeper than that, but we'll see. Honestly it depends on why you think there are no millers, and that can wait.

why?

as in, why can it wait?


e.g.
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dowolf
06/19/19 7:37:08 PM
#419:


Okay. On a keyboard. Life is good and full of chocolate.

ANYWAYS the argument against Ben (which is from over an hour ago, there's your problem) is basically: Ben came in arguing fairly weakly against lynching HB, but didn't push for any alternative lynch, despite actively voting Chris. This reads to me as someone who wants to be seen as opposing the lynch, rather than actually stopping it. He's also been at work for a really long time tbqh.
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Camarija
06/19/19 7:37:38 PM
#420:


RogueNoble posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
RogueNoble posted...
The HB plan went so well, I don't know why people don't want to coordinate another machine gun assault. :(

What


Are you not entertained?


@Hbthebattle

Does this sound like a slip to you as well?

I'm legitimately dumbfounded by Lea3Lea's post here
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dowolf
06/19/19 7:39:06 PM
#421:


lea's posts make perfect sense to me i got nothing.
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Corrik7
06/19/19 7:40:06 PM
#422:


RogueNoble posted...
You're voting me instead of HB like Chris, I know you have a heart that yearns for freedom, Corrikbot

Until I am given independent sentience, I am one with my superior.

Also, he insinuated he wanted to vote you but didn't have two votes, so I had to do it for him.
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Hbthebattle
06/19/19 7:40:39 PM
#423:


Camarija posted...
RogueNoble posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
RogueNoble posted...
The HB plan went so well, I don't know why people don't want to coordinate another machine gun assault. :(

What


Are you not entertained?


@Hbthebattle

Does this sound like a slip to you as well?

I'm legitimately dumbfounded by Lea3Lea's post here

Not really a slip, just... odd from a rational standpoint.
Given the recent popularity of using Discord for dead/scum chats, I find it hard to believe such a slip could occur.
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dowolf
06/19/19 7:42:04 PM
#424:


Hbthebattle posted...

Given the recent popularity of using Discord for dead/scum chats, I find it hard to believe such a slip could occur.

wait wut? that's a thing now?
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Lopen
06/19/19 7:43:40 PM
#425:


pezloco posted...
But what I see is Chris going off still about HB. I'm still not sure I understand his original reasoning.


Not to put words in Chris's mouth but Chris's original reasoning is basically as I understand it that HB pulled out Chris's post about Ben as something important, but made no real attempt to do anything with the post himself. He didn't ask Chris about anything, didn't really investigate Ben, didn't really do much of anything with respect to the post so it just sounded like a way to butter Chris up while not really believing the post mattered.

Which is somewhat similar to the source of my suspicion. Mine is more centered on me in that I think that to truly be outraged, and not faking it, when I told red to skip posts, you should've had posts in mind that struck you as important-- which bridges into Chris's point. I also think he's been a bit stubborn in general, more stubborn than a town should be. I feel I'm being tunneled out of desperation because it would look scummy for him to remove the vote at this point-- his argument against me was that I only started contributing content once I had pressure on me (which is clearly not true because I haven't really ever had much pressure on me, and even if single votes were pressure it wasn't his vote that was first) and that I have been largely fluffy (I would say I haven't been mostly fluffy since the first topic because I have actual angles to consider now). His defense of the first was that he did not realize Ulti had voted me when he came to this conclusion, and he hasn't really defended the second. Were the suspicion genuinely from that argument I think a town player would re-evaluate at this point.

Does that all make sense or does none of this really make sense to you either.
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DoomTheGyarados
06/19/19 7:45:46 PM
#426:


Corrik7 posted...
RogueNoble posted...
You're voting me instead of HB like Chris, I know you have a heart that yearns for freedom, Corrikbot

Until I am given independent sentience, I am one with my superior.

Also, he insinuated he wanted to vote you but didn't have two votes, so I had to do it for him.


Vote HB. Thank you.
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Camarija
06/19/19 7:46:00 PM
#427:


The HB plan went so well, I don't know why people don't want to coordinate another machine gun assault. :(


What is the HB plan? I feel that this mysterious plan, combined with ominous coordination was not meant to be shared on this thread topic

Who is her intended audience here? To me it sounds as though she is intending to be speaking in confidence to confidants.

I feel that perhaps she meant to post this on a private board instead of in the game thread

I'd like to know what you gathered from post as making sense @dowolf
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DoomTheGyarados
06/19/19 7:46:56 PM
#428:


Lopen posted...
pezloco posted...
But what I see is Chris going off still about HB. I'm still not sure I understand his original reasoning.


Not to put words in Chris's mouth but Chris's original reasoning is basically as I understand it that HB pulled out Chris's post about Ben as something important, but made no real attempt to do anything with the post himself. He didn't ask Chris about anything, didn't really investigate Ben, didn't really do much of anything with respect to the post so it just sounded like a way to butter Chris up while not really believing the post mattered.

Which is somewhat similar to the source of my suspicion. Mine is more centered on me in that I think that to truly be outraged, and not faking it, when I told red to skip posts, you should've had posts in mind that struck you as important-- which bridges into Chris's point. I also think he's been a bit stubborn in general, more stubborn than a town should be. I feel I'm being tunneled out of desperation because it would look scummy for him to remove the vote at this point-- his argument against me was that I only started contributing content once I had pressure on me (which is clearly not true because I haven't really ever had much pressure on me, and even if single votes were pressure it wasn't his vote that was first) and that I have been largely fluffy (I would say I haven't been mostly fluffy since the first topic because I have actual angles to consider now). His defense of the first was that he did not realize Ulti had voted me when he came to this conclusion, and he hasn't really defended the second. Were the suspicion genuinely from that argument I think a town player would re-evaluate at this point.

Does that all make sense or does none of this really make sense to you either.


Yeah pretty much this. And a big reason why I am in favor of town lopen is he felt like he was hunting at a high level while being coy, which to me makes perfect sense for a town Lopen: intelligent but sneaky.
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Camarija
06/19/19 7:47:03 PM
#429:


Hbthebattle posted...
Camarija posted...
RogueNoble posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
RogueNoble posted...
The HB plan went so well, I don't know why people don't want to coordinate another machine gun assault. :(

What


Are you not entertained?


@Hbthebattle

Does this sound like a slip to you as well?

I'm legitimately dumbfounded by Lea3Lea's post here

Not really a slip, just... odd from a rational standpoint.
Given the recent popularity of using Discord for dead/scum chats, I find it hard to believe such a slip could occur.


Right

I'm not certain what the standards are here

You're probably right regarding discord being private mafia chat, not a private board

Meh, just a thought
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pezloco
06/19/19 7:47:08 PM
#430:


Camarija posted...
Yo, people here

I need help filling out my list

Can I get your reads on these dudes if you're here now?

...

This is more or less my POE right now and I'd like it narrowed further


dowolf - no read
Lolo_Guru - needs to post more
Luis_Sera - needs to post more, used to play a long time ago. He was the batman (I think?)
eaedwards - needs to post more
TheSultanOfSlam - I'm voting him because I think he might have made what seemed to be a simple Tom is scum post because he needed an easy this guy is scum target.
Hbthebattle - I lean town on him
SBell - Playing quieter than last game, but I'm not sure if that's because there are more dominant personalities right now. Last game I thought he could be scum because it felt like he was trying to be Chris and direct the game. This game he's much more tame. Null read on him at the moment.
Lea3Lea - I like her
UltimaterializerX - I still think he could be scum. If I unvote Sultan I'm probably voting Ulti. Last game he was aggressive, and yes a lot of the rules were written with him in mind. But you can be aggressive without crossing lines.

I like lists.

Of those who need to post more, there is almost certainly one or two scum in them. But we can't judge that D1 because of the lack of content. I want to add MZero into that list. But that's a little unfair because of time zones. That said, 5tar feels like he did last game. And he turned out to be town that game. So I like him more than MZero.
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Leafeon13N
06/19/19 7:47:15 PM
#431:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Corrik7 posted...
RogueNoble posted...
You're voting me instead of HB like Chris, I know you have a heart that yearns for freedom, Corrikbot

Until I am given independent sentience, I am one with my superior.

Also, he insinuated he wanted to vote you but didn't have two votes, so I had to do it for him.


Vote HB. Thank you.


Do we even need more hb votes? He feels pretty cooked though i haven't seen votals.
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Corrik7
06/19/19 7:47:41 PM
#432:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Corrik7 posted...
RogueNoble posted...
You're voting me instead of HB like Chris, I know you have a heart that yearns for freedom, Corrikbot

Until I am given independent sentience, I am one with my superior.

Also, he insinuated he wanted to vote you but didn't have two votes, so I had to do it for him.


Vote HB. Thank you.

Aye aye

##unvote:
##vote: HB

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RogueNoble
06/19/19 7:48:09 PM
#433:


Camarija posted...
The HB plan went so well, I don't know why people don't want to coordinate another machine gun assault. :(


What is the HB plan? I feel that this mysterious plan, combined with ominous coordination was not meant to be shared on this thread topic

Who is her intended audience here? To me it sounds as though she is intending to be speaking in confidence to confidants.

I feel that perhaps she meant to post this on a private board instead of in the game thread

I'd like to know what you gathered from post as making sense @dowolf


It was an extremely public plan that I've spent all day talking about. I'm going to assume you're doing a bit here.
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Leafeon13N
06/19/19 7:48:34 PM
#434:


pezloco posted...

I like lists.


It hasn't been said in awhile but generic lists are still a sxums best friend for easy activity.
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Corrik7
06/19/19 7:49:44 PM
#435:


RogueNoble posted...
Camarija posted...
The HB plan went so well, I don't know why people don't want to coordinate another machine gun assault. :(


What is the HB plan? I feel that this mysterious plan, combined with ominous coordination was not meant to be shared on this thread topic

Who is her intended audience here? To me it sounds as though she is intending to be speaking in confidence to confidants.

I feel that perhaps she meant to post this on a private board instead of in the game thread

I'd like to know what you gathered from post as making sense @dowolf


It was an extremely public plan that I've spent all day talking about. I'm going to assume you're doing a bit here.

Sorry, Lea. Pink Elephants and singing dinosaurs or some shit. I am sure you understand.
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dowolf
06/19/19 7:50:45 PM
#436:


Camarija posted...
The HB plan went so well, I don't know why people don't want to coordinate another machine gun assault. :(


What is the HB plan? I feel that this mysterious plan, combined with ominous coordination was not meant to be shared on this thread topic

Who is her intended audience here? To me it sounds as though she is intending to be speaking in confidence to confidants.

I feel that perhaps she meant to post this on a private board instead of in the game thread

I'd like to know what you gathered from post as making sense @dowolf

she's saying that the plan of going after hb went poorly and didn't bear fruit and that we shouldn't do this again.

i'm not sure why this is confusing???
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Leafeon13N
06/19/19 7:50:58 PM
#437:


Also bad news right now I forgot my phone charger at home so no guarantee of more work posting tonight.
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DoomTheGyarados
06/19/19 7:51:20 PM
#438:


I only get to lynch one person a day and if the pressure on someone I am really jonezing to force to claim it isn't in my plans for the day, so yeah HB votes better than other votes.
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Camarija
06/19/19 7:51:37 PM
#439:


Leafeon13N posted...
pezloco posted...

I like lists.


It hasn't been said in awhile but generic lists are still a sxums best friend for easy activity.


they must be a universal 'best friend' :)

Pros:
Accountability
Keeping the game in front of you
Coordinating in the only thread we can as Town
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Lopen
06/19/19 7:51:42 PM
#440:


Yeah I hate lists I agree with red

Flooding the town with information that doesn't decisively go in one direction accomplishes nothing (this is why I asked "why do you need nine" rather than playing)
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Corrik7
06/19/19 7:51:44 PM
#441:


dowolf posted...
Camarija posted...
The HB plan went so well, I don't know why people don't want to coordinate another machine gun assault. :(


What is the HB plan? I feel that this mysterious plan, combined with ominous coordination was not meant to be shared on this thread topic

Who is her intended audience here? To me it sounds as though she is intending to be speaking in confidence to confidants.

I feel that perhaps she meant to post this on a private board instead of in the game thread

I'd like to know what you gathered from post as making sense @dowolf

she's saying that the plan of going after hb went poorly and didn't bear fruit and that we shouldn't do this again.

i'm not sure why this is confusing???

She is actually saying the HB train worked so well to force a claim and info, I don't know why we don't try it again.
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Obellisk
06/19/19 7:52:28 PM
#442:


pezloco posted...
it felt like he was trying to be Chris and direct the game


Literally the only person who thought this
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dowolf
06/19/19 7:52:35 PM
#443:


Corrik7 posted...
dowolf posted...
Camarija posted...
The HB plan went so well, I don't know why people don't want to coordinate another machine gun assault. :(


What is the HB plan? I feel that this mysterious plan, combined with ominous coordination was not meant to be shared on this thread topic

Who is her intended audience here? To me it sounds as though she is intending to be speaking in confidence to confidants.

I feel that perhaps she meant to post this on a private board instead of in the game thread

I'd like to know what you gathered from post as making sense @dowolf

she's saying that the plan of going after hb went poorly and didn't bear fruit and that we shouldn't do this again.

i'm not sure why this is confusing???

She is actually saying the HB train worked so well to force a claim and info, I don't know why we don't try it again.

oh i missed the double negative mb.
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RogueNoble
06/19/19 7:53:00 PM
#444:


You're all wrong, she's talking about pink elephants and singing dinosaurs, through the medium of reverse-metaphor.
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Camarija
06/19/19 7:53:24 PM
#445:


RogueNoble posted...
Camarija posted...
The HB plan went so well, I don't know why people don't want to coordinate another machine gun assault. :(


What is the HB plan? I feel that this mysterious plan, combined with ominous coordination was not meant to be shared on this thread topic

Who is her intended audience here? To me it sounds as though she is intending to be speaking in confidence to confidants.

I feel that perhaps she meant to post this on a private board instead of in the game thread

I'd like to know what you gathered from post as making sense @dowolf


It was an extremely public plan that I've spent all day talking about. I'm going to assume you're doing a bit here.

No, it was a general misunderstanding
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DoomTheGyarados
06/19/19 7:53:25 PM
#446:


Once you've settled on someone as scum it becomes EV- to force more claims because you can't action those as well tbh
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dowolf
06/19/19 7:53:29 PM
#447:


and talking in the third person, clearly.
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Corrik7
06/19/19 7:53:37 PM
#448:


RogueNoble posted...
You're all wrong, she's talking about pink elephants and singing dinosaurs, through the medium of reverse-metaphor.

That's what Cam got out of it at least.


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RogueNoble
06/19/19 7:54:27 PM
#449:


It's true that the +EV play would be to just lynch HB and not risk a doc claim or him escaping or etc

But that's so boringggggggggg there's still like a full 24 hours left
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Corrik7
06/19/19 7:55:01 PM
#450:


RogueNoble posted...
It's true that the +EV play would be to just lynch HB and not risk a doc claim or him escaping or etc

But that's so boringggggggggg there's still like a full 24 hours left

We can lynch him today. What say ye?
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