Current Events > DotA Underlords released on mobile

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What killed Auto Chess for me was the length of games that I don't always have time for.

DotA Underlords has a bot mode that you can suspend and resume at your own pace. That makes a tremendous difference.
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im really liking this so far, i especially like how underlords treats items compared to auto chess.

underlords still has a way to go though, i know it was rushed to market but hopefully soon there will be ranked modes and maybe some sort of turbo mode so pvp matches arent as long. also i kind of miss the auto chess engrish, i miss being called the truely sage of chesses
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wait what, there is autochess on mobile finally?

my laptop shitty as cpu cant run dota2 so I can finlaly tets this shit out.
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What is autochess? First I've heard of it.

ocelot51 posted...

What is autochess? First I've heard of it.

MOBA but with 4D chess mechanics
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Romulox28 posted...

im really liking this so far, i especially like how underlords treats items compared to auto chess.

underlords still has a way to go though, i know it was rushed to market but hopefully soon there will be ranked modes and maybe some sort of turbo mode so pvp matches arent as long. also i kind of miss the auto chess engrish, i miss being called the truely sage of chesses

While it was rushed to market it seems to have most of the same features as Auto Chess.

Auto Chess was basically also rushed.
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I downloaded Underlords and went through the tutorial. I can see the appeal of the game, even though I haven't played DOTA2 in ages. I'm going to play some more.

Is this auto chess shit the new BR?
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ocelot51 posted...

What is autochess? First I've heard of it.

there are 8 players in one game, free for all style. each player starts with 100hp. object of the game is to be the last man standing.

players start off at level 1, with 1 gold piece. each round, players are presented with a random assortment of heroes ("chess pieces") they can purchase with their gold. they then place these chess pieces on a grid-based playing field (where the chess name comes from).

the player is then matched up automatically with an other player and each player's deployed chess pieces battle it out automatically. if you lose the fight, you lose some HP. after each round, players get more gold, items, experience points that increase their level (making them able to put more pieces on the board), etc.

the fun of the game is from the strategies (picking the right pieces that synergize with each other for special bonuses, placing them in the right spots, selecting items for your pieces, etc) and to a lesser extent the RNG from hoping you can draft a desired chess piece that round.
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The game is far too rng-y right now.

I was playing a game where I built a lot of brawny and warrior units and refreshed 6 times once and it was just nothing but mage units.

Honestly I wish there was some way to build a "deck" of things you wanted or a way to ban units from your personal pool. Like, idk, spend 2x the gold that it takes to buy a unit to make sure they never show up again.
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Wow this drains my battery like nobody's business. Phone's getting hot!

i had a fun time playing this on the toilet at work
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Drow, Morphling and Anti Mage are so god damn useless
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Tyranthraxus posted...

The game is far too rng-y right now.

I was playing a game where I built a lot of brawny and warrior units and refreshed 6 times once and it was just nothing but mage units.

Honestly I wish there was some way to build a "deck" of things you wanted or a way to ban units from your personal pool. Like, idk, spend 2x the gold that it takes to buy a unit to make sure they never show up again.

That's not how it works. There's a pool of heroes. The more brawny and warrior units you get, the less chance you have of finding them in a pool to random. So your result is actually expected somewhat to happen. I forget exactly how many of each unit exists but if someone has a 3 star axe your chance of making a 2 star axe is extremely slim.
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I thought Drow was still broken as shit with hunters?

I was able to win with a demon comp since i got the passive that upgrades my Demon Hunters. I had a 1 star AM until like round 25.
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LookANinja posted...

I thought Drow was still broken as shit with hunters?

I was able to win with a demon comp since i got the passive that upgrades my Demon Hunters. I had a 1 star AM until like round 25.

They nerfed Drow, her aura only increases attack speed and the units have to be one cell next to her to get the bonus.
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This game looked dumb, but I am glad I tried it. I am having a lot of fun with this.
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imma try it out, never played an auto chess game
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Should be called Dota Poker tbh
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Anyone have any idea how they plan on monetizing this? I dont see how they can do it
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solosnake posted...

Anyone have any idea how they plan on monetizing this? I dont see how they can do it

Battle Pass and steam workshop.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

solosnake posted...

Anyone have any idea how they plan on monetizing this? I dont see how they can do it

Battle Pass and steam workshop.

whats the battle pass?
Also does that mean paid mods for the steam workshop or something?
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solosnake posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

solosnake posted...

Anyone have any idea how they plan on monetizing this? I dont see how they can do it

Battle Pass and steam workshop.

whats the battle pass?

Basically a paid subscription for special rewards based on how much you play. I say subscription but it's more like a ticket that entities you to several months of shit. For people who like to play a lot it's generally considered a very good deal.

Also does that mean paid mods for the steam workshop or something?

This has been a thing in valve games for much longer than the Skyrim fiasco. The short answer is yes, but the execution is quite different from what Bethesda had to do and most people have no problem with it.
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cant seem to log into my steam account while in app

also i hope they put a 2x speed mode or somethin soon
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AloofHermit posted...

cant seem to log into my steam account while in app

also i hope they put a 2x speed mode or somethin soon

I had to open the steam app to do it the authentication widget was not working for some reason.
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AloofHermit posted...

cant seem to log into my steam account while in app

also i hope they put a 2x speed mode or somethin soon

Things we are exploring: - Turbo Mode: We hear ya, so we've started some design experiments. Let us know what you want from game length and any other random ideas. We're all ears.

https://twitter.com/DotaUnderlords/status/1142127987271163904
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Tyranthraxus posted...

I had to open the steam app to do it the authentication widget was not working for some reason.

ill try that

Maeiv posted...

Things we are exploring: - Turbo Mode: We hear ya, so we've started some design experiments. Let us know what you want from game length and any other random ideas. We're all ears.

https://twitter.com/DotaUnderlords/status/1142127987271163904

cool
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I want to try some src warden shenanigans
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Does anyone know how many of each card goes into the shared pool? Or is there anywhere to look up stats like that?
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solosnake posted...

Does anyone know how many of each card goes into the shared pool? Or is there anywhere to look up stats like that?

There's not cards just rarities and the rarity gets better as you level up.
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cant seem to get past the initial 450mb download error
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Tyranthraxus posted...

solosnake posted...

Does anyone know how many of each card goes into the shared pool? Or is there anywhere to look up stats like that?

There's not cards just rarities and the rarity gets better as you level up.

he is asking for how many of each unit are available, such as if everyone else is buying tusk the moment they see him your chances of seeing a tusk are much lower
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thisisboris2 posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

solosnake posted...

Does anyone know how many of each card goes into the shared pool? Or is there anywhere to look up stats like that?

There's not cards just rarities and the rarity gets better as you level up.

he is asking for how many of each unit are available, such as if everyone else is buying tusk the moment they see him your chances of seeing a tusk are much lower

As I said there's no such thing as "available" every unit exists in unlimited quantities.
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thisisboris2 posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

solosnake posted...

Does anyone know how many of each card goes into the shared pool? Or is there anywhere to look up stats like that?

There's not cards just rarities and the rarity gets better as you level up.

he is asking for how many of each unit are available, such as if everyone else is buying tusk the moment they see him your chances of seeing a tusk are much lower

yeah, i was under the impression there was a hard limit on the number of "cards" that were available in the public pool to pick from. For example you can screw someone over by picking up their heroes and just letting them sit on your bench if they are gonna be a problem for you
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solosnake posted...

yeah, i was under the impression there was a hard limit on the number of "cards" that were available in the public pool to pick from. For example you can screw someone over by picking up their heroes and just letting them sit on your bench if they are gonna be a problem for you

There's no such mechanic. Everyone has access to the same randomness that everyone else does at all times.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

solosnake posted...

yeah, i was under the impression there was a hard limit on the number of "cards" that were available in the public pool to pick from. For example you can screw someone over by picking up their heroes and just letting them sit on your bench if they are gonna be a problem for you

There's no such mechanic. Everyone has access to the same randomness that everyone else does at all times.

Idk man, I have won like 5 games in a row going off this assumption
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Unit Pool

It's important to note that unit pool is shared across all players. That means, there are only a limited number of each unit within the total pot. What's important to realize about this, is the fact that it directly affects your ability to upgrade units. If multiple players have all picked a Bloodseeker in the first warm-up round, the liklihood of them then having the opportunity to ugprade them, is incredibly slim. Simply put, there will be too few for you to all reliably buy, meaning it'll take a long time - or be near impossible - to get the upgrades you need, without rotating what's available for purchase. Play such as this is not only gold intensive, but it's also like looking for a needle in a haystack.

If you're regularly seeing the same units on your store, it's because others aren't buying them and it would be wise - based on their abundance - to quickly adapt your draft to make use of the quick and plentiful upgrades you can obtain.

yeah im nearly 100% positive that its a shared pool

They basically took the concept of Go Fish! and turned it into a pvp game. And I really like it lol
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Back to my original question then, does anyone know what the total number of each unit is in the pool? Is this even public knowledge? It should be easily accessible in the menu where you look up the hero stats imo
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Tyranthraxus posted...

thisisboris2 posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

solosnake posted...

Does anyone know how many of each card goes into the shared pool? Or is there anywhere to look up stats like that?

There's not cards just rarities and the rarity gets better as you level up.

he is asking for how many of each unit are available, such as if everyone else is buying tusk the moment they see him your chances of seeing a tusk are much lower

As I said there's no such thing as "available" every unit exists in unlimited quantities.

Where is your source on these claims? In DAC there was a definitely a pool. Whether it was "limited" or "unlimited" isn't super clear. However, even if the pool is "unlimited," there seems to be a mechanic that makes it so that someone who has purchased, kept, and upgraded a particular unit seems to lower the chance that he or anyone else will be offered that same unit.
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Man, the more i am playing this the more I am liking it. I hope this game succeeds. I wanted to try out TFT since i am enjoying this one so much, but i have heard that you will have to download league of legends to play it and it wont be a separate game. Thats a deal breaker for me
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bump
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solosnake posted...

Man, the more i am playing this the more I am liking it. I hope this game succeeds. I wanted to try out TFT since i am enjoying this one so much, but i have heard that you will have to download league of legends to play it and it wont be a separate game. Thats a deal breaker for me

iirc riot has any plans to release TFT on mobile at the moment so i think that will be a big advantage for Underlords

i really like this whole autochess gold rush now, it's pretty nice for the consumer. also someone should make a Dota Underlords general or autochess general or something
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BALANCE UPDATE
Adjustment to the game board: Lighting and Shadow intensity tweaks.
Sounds from combat occurring on other player's boards can now be heard from yours.
New opponent selection logic: This addresses the community feedback of fighting the same opponents over and over.
PC/Mobile: Many performance optimizations.
Mobile: Fixed storage space calculation when downloading content.
Fixed unit stats not reflecting all items and equipment when querying before combat started.
Fixed friendly AI not casting spells after Pudge hooked an enemy.
Troll Global Item (Coordinated Assault): Now stacks.
AI will now cast spells on the ground under a target instead of on the target's location. Fixes floating Spells if the target happened to be flying through the air.
Dragon Alliance: Now requires 2 units.
Dragon Alliance: Now Unlocks an additional ability for each member of the Alliance.
Dragon Knight: Breathe Fire is now his base ability.
Dragon Knight: Dragon Alliance now unlocks Dragon Form.
Dragon Knight: Hit Points increased to 1000/2000/4000.
Dragon Knight: Gained +10 Health Regeneration.
Puck: Dragon Alliance now unlocks Phase Shift.
Viper: Dragon Alliance now unlocks Corrosive Skin.
Pocket Sand: Now also slows mana gained on receiving damage by 50%.
Pocket Sand: Will debuff a random enemy unit within 2 cells if no units are within 1 cell of the assassin landing.
Keeper of the Light: Illuminate now costs 150 mana.
Keeper of the Light: Health decreased to 550/1100/2200.
Desperate Measure: Now also increases mana gained on receving/dealing damage by the same amount as attack damage.
Wicked Intent: Now also blocks HP regen.
Scrappy Alliance: Now provides 8 armor and 9 health regeneration. It provides double that amount if your starting army is smaller in size than your opponent's.
Knight Alliance: Now gives a constant 15/25/35% damage reduction and an additional 20/25/30% when next to another knight.
Chaos Knight: Damage Increased from [40-110, 80-220, 160-440] to [55-135, 110-240, 200-480].
Boots of Speed: Now Tranquil Boots. Passive +16 health regen and 100% bonus move speed.
New Item - Pipe of Insight: +50% Magic Resistance. Once the first enemy has 100% mana, apply a shield that blocks 400 magic damage to allies up to 1 cell away. (once per battle)
Mobile: Fixed 'Australia' mode - Some Android devices rendered the game upside down, and that has been fixed.
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Should be played by auto chess origins instead. It's the game made by the actual developers of Dota chess.

Way better with way more unlockables. Season 1 ranked is underway and the UI is way better IMO.
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Zeeak4444 posted...

Should be played by auto chess origins instead. It's the game made by the actual developers of Dota chess.

Way better with way more unlockables. Season 1 ranked is underway and the UI is way better IMO.

No the makers of DotA auto Chess game is just called "Auto Chess"

There's a lot of shitty mobile rip offs right now
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Zeeak4444 posted...

Should be played by auto chess origins instead. It's the game made by the actual developers of Dota chess.

Way better with way more unlockables. Season 1 ranked is underway and the UI is way better IMO.

i cant stand the character designs. dota 2 characters are ripoffs of warcraft 3 characters so drodo characters are a knockoff of a knockoff.

so you go from something like Grom Hellscream (https://bit.ly/2Nasfhl) to Axe (https://bit.ly/2XxgR2R) to whatever the hell this red thing is in Auto Chess Origins (https://bit.ly/2X1rl6r). yikes
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Zeeak4444 posted...

Should be played by auto chess origins instead. It's the game made by the actual developers of Dota chess.

Way better with way more unlockables. Season 1 ranked is underway and the UI is way better IMO.

i might check it out, is it mobile only?
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solosnake posted...

Zeeak4444 posted...

Should be played by auto chess origins instead. It's the game made by the actual developers of Dota chess.

Way better with way more unlockables. Season 1 ranked is underway and the UI is way better IMO.

i might check it out, is it mobile only?

I believe currently yes.
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LookANinja posted...

solosnake posted...

Zeeak4444 posted...

Should be played by auto chess origins instead. It's the game made by the actual developers of Dota chess.

Way better with way more unlockables. Season 1 ranked is underway and the UI is way better IMO.

i might check it out, is it mobile only?

I believe currently yes.

Ya, the early access sign ups are up for PC but it's still just mobile ATM.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Zeeak4444 posted...

Should be played by auto chess origins instead. It's the game made by the actual developers of Dota chess.

Way better with way more unlockables. Season 1 ranked is underway and the UI is way better IMO.

No the makers of DotA auto Chess game is just called "Auto Chess"

There's a lot of shitty mobile rip offs right now

Depends on your OS. On IOS it's just auto chess, the PC version and I believe the andrioid version are both called auto chess origin.

It's the real thing, it's the same developers. I also didn't like the character looks at first either but now I prefer them. Also great to have different chess boards to decide between.

Edit: I had it backwards, it's auto chess origin on the IOS.
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Its really fun.
Its very easy to kill 20-25 minutes playing it.
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