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brandunh11
09/23/19 10:44:32 AM
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https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Amber-Guyger-Murder-Trial-Live-Blog-Day-1-561067481.html

This is a link to live coverage of the Amber Guyger trial. In case youre unfamiliar or forgot, this is the case in which the police officer (Amber Guyger) mistakenly went into Botham Jeans apartment, believing it to be her own. Once she realized someone was in the apartment, she shot him in self defense. Botham Jean was not a criminal under investigation and was simply in his apartment. In fact he was a literal choir boy who sang in the choir at his church and worked as an accountant for PWC, one of the big 4 accounting firms. The shooting was the night of September 6th, 2018. Trial started at 9am central time.

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Blue_Inigo
09/23/19 10:48:05 AM
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Real curious how her lawyer will spin this
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MrMallard
09/23/19 10:48:43 AM
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Let's get this jail-time !
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Romulox28
09/23/19 10:51:44 AM
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i hope she gets the max penalty a police officer can receive (suspended with pay).

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Hanky_Bannister
09/23/19 10:52:28 AM
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you know a dallas jury gonna feel sorry for this bitch and let her off easy for fucking murder.
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Hanky_Bannister
09/23/19 10:53:13 AM
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metallica846 posted...
Who leaves their door just open?

i do all the time. should i get murdered by a dumb pilled up pig?
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Letron_James
09/23/19 10:53:25 AM
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Hanky_Bannister posted...
you know a dallas jury gonna feel sorry for this bitch and let her off easy for fucking murder.


Oh for sure

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Sad_Face
09/23/19 10:53:37 AM
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Based on the OP, I expect her to get convicted of manslaughter at the minimum.

metallica846 posted...
Wasn't his door ajar when she went in? Who leaves their door just open?


I have a dog so I leave my door open time to time so he can waltz in and out. For an apartment, never happened to me but perhaps he forgot to close it shut.
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brandunh11
09/23/19 10:55:22 AM
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metallica846 posted...
I'm from Dallas and this shit pissed me off so much. I'm hazy on the details, but I remember that she may have been drunk or something?

Terrible situation all around. Not sure what she deserves for killing that guy. Wasn't his door ajar when she went in? Who leaves their door just open?


Im also from Dallas and have lived here my whole life. So I have more interest in this case than usual. Im not sure what the proper punishment is, and Im unsure if murder is the correct charge. Definitely manslaughter though and she should be punished to the full extent.

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TheGoldenEel
09/23/19 10:55:50 AM
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Sad that the topic title of police shooting of man in his own home isnt descriptive enough for me to have known what this topic was about
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Wewillrocku
09/23/19 10:56:53 AM
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so it was actually murder. you didn't mention that in post 1.
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brandunh11
09/23/19 10:59:42 AM
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Wewillrocku posted...
so it was actually murder. you didn't mention that in post 1.


I prefer to let you do your research on the facts of the case and come to this conclusion on your own.

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Hanky_Bannister
09/23/19 10:59:55 AM
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metallica846 posted...
Hanky_Bannister posted...
i do all the time. should i get murdered by a dumb pilled up pig?


Not unlocked...OPEN.

yeah i often leave it open while im home. nice crossbreeze through the door is lovely.
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Wewillrocku
09/23/19 11:00:46 AM
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i doubt she'll get off for this. if she was drunk as someone suggested, she wouldn't have been able to aim to kill.
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DrizztLink
09/23/19 11:06:54 AM
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Wewillrocku posted...
i doubt she'll get off for this. if she was drunk as someone suggested, she wouldn't have been able to aim to kill.
... fucking what

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Hanky_Bannister
09/23/19 11:16:33 AM
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metallica846 posted...
This whole thing stinks. If she was indeed confused, well, the evidence looks REALLY bad to back that up. She's definitely gonna do some time, but no amount will make anyone in this topic happy unless she is put on death row it seems.

i love your ridiculous accusation that everyone wants her on death row.

we just dont want this pig getting off with probation or some weak sentence like 10 years.
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Hanky_Bannister
09/23/19 11:21:30 AM
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metallica846 posted...
10 years....weak....pig...

10 years for manslaughter seems very fair.


go tell that to the family of the man gunned down in his own home

im sure if you had even a drop of empathy 10 years wouldnt be close to enough for someone you love
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brandunh11
09/23/19 1:27:10 PM
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So far most of the discussion has been around what pieces of evidence should be allowed into court. Her defense tried to declare a mistrial due to some info leaking but the judge shot it down.

Its supposed to start back up in about 5 min.

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Hanky_Bannister
09/23/19 1:36:16 PM
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brandunh11 posted...
Her defense tried to declare a mistrial due to some info leaking

lol.

lawyers going for the hail mary on play 1
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Zeeak4444
09/23/19 4:06:53 PM
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metallica846 posted...
Wewillrocku posted...
i doubt she'll get off for this. if she was drunk as someone suggested, she wouldn't have been able to aim to kill.


You can be intoxicated and still function well. She obviously was well enough to drive and talk on the phone, find her way home, drive through a parking lot and park, walk up stairs etc.

This whole thing stinks. If she was indeed confused, well, the evidence looks REALLY bad to back that up. She's definitely gonna do some time, but no amount will make anyone in this topic happy unless she is put on death row it seems.


Well you see most people dont think depriving a man of life because you were confused is a good enough reason to be out in 5-8 years.
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brandunh11
09/23/19 6:27:34 PM
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First day wasnt too eventful outside of the defense trying to get a mistrial early on. Only three witnesses were called, including Amber Guygers former partner who she had a sexual relationship with.

Also since it keeps coming up, Botham Jeans front door was fully closed but unlocked because he had recently got back from running an errand. Its speculated that he rushed in (maybe holding something) and forgot to go back and lock his door. He was on the couch eating ice cream when Amber barged in.

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BLAKUboy
09/23/19 6:31:09 PM
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brandunh11 posted...
Also since it keeps coming up, Botham Jeans front door was fully closed but unlocked because he had recently got back from running an errand. Its speculated that he rushed in (maybe holding something) and forgot to go back and lock his door. He was on the couch eating ice cream when Amber barged in.

So there goes that excuse for the pig fondling.
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The Catgirl Fondler
09/23/19 6:34:03 PM
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Hope they grill her stupid piggy ass, but chances are they'll let her go scot-free because jurors are almost always bacon-slurppers.
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CADE FOSTER
09/23/19 6:34:59 PM
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Smashingpmkns
09/23/19 6:37:25 PM
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So she was drinking and driving, barged into a man's house and shot him dead? She deserves life in prison.
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Evening_Dragon
09/23/19 6:39:16 PM
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10 years sounds fair. That would be the end of her life as she knew it.
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Abiz_
09/23/19 6:55:51 PM
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I don't know where this drinking thing can from. The defense are saying she was sleep deprived. They were discussing whether a sleep expert would be allowed or not with the judge. 10 years is fair imo. If she was drunk. You think that would of came up on the first day.
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brandunh11
09/23/19 7:20:19 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
So she was drinking and driving, barged into a man's house and shot him dead?


Not sure where you got this. There's zero evidence to support the theories that she was drunk or under the influence. In fact, all known facts seem to support that she was sober.


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Hanky_Bannister
09/23/19 7:26:11 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
10 years sounds fair. That would be the end of her life as she knew it.

no its not
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marc55
09/23/19 8:06:44 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Well you see most people dont think depriving a man of life because you were confused is a good enough reason to be out in 5-8 years.


this happens of the time and not just when cops are the shooters

people kill by mistake their son /daughters / wife / husbands or friends and most of the time they arent charged
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Alexanaxela
09/24/19 5:54:31 AM
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smh @ this topic

*kills man in his own apartment cause you don't know where you live and your first course of action as a POLICE OFFICER when you find someone just chilling in a chair is to draw your weapon and shoot them*

"10 years seems fair."
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thronedfire2
09/24/19 6:43:58 AM
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marc55 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Well you see most people dont think depriving a man of life because you were confused is a good enough reason to be out in 5-8 years.


this happens of the time and not just when cops are the shooters

people kill by mistake their son /daughters / wife / husbands or friends and most of the time they arent charged


She didnt kill him by mistake, she did it on purpose
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brandunh11
09/24/19 11:57:22 AM
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Day 2 has been going on for 2.5 hours so far. Only two witnesses called to the stand so far. Most relevant of the two was one of the officers who responded to the 911 call and immediately administered first aid techniques to Botham. Body cam footage from the officer was shown. The prosecution is really highlighting the fact that Amber did not offer any first aid assistance while waiting on other officers to arrive even though shes trained to do so.

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hockeybub89
09/24/19 11:58:13 AM
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Hanky_Bannister
09/24/19 11:59:22 AM
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brandunh11 posted...
The prosecution is really highlighting the fact that Amber did not offer any first aid assistance while waiting on other officers to arrive even though shes trained to do so.

great; so she murdered a man in his own home then didnt do what she was trained to do?

how was this bitch a cop?
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hockeybub89
09/24/19 12:01:25 PM
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Hanky_Bannister posted...
brandunh11 posted...
The prosecution is really highlighting the fact that Amber did not offer any first aid assistance while waiting on other officers to arrive even though shes trained to do so.

great; so she murdered a man in his own home then didnt do what she was trained to do?

how was this bitch a cop?

But if we had higher standards in hiring, then we'd have no cops!
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Hanky_Bannister
09/24/19 12:03:59 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Hanky_Bannister posted...
brandunh11 posted...
The prosecution is really highlighting the fact that Amber did not offer any first aid assistance while waiting on other officers to arrive even though shes trained to do so.

great; so she murdered a man in his own home then didnt do what she was trained to do?

how was this bitch a cop?

But if we had higher standards in hiring, then we'd have no cops!

remember that one dude who they said was "too smart to be a cop"?

they literally proved they dont want smart people in the police, they want mindless robots.
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brandunh11
09/24/19 6:10:39 PM
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Lots of testimony today from the officers who responded to the 9-1-1 call and other officers from Dallas PD who investigated the case. They also interviewed some of the witnesses who heard the gunshots and saw the immediate aftermath of the shooting, such as the guy who lived in the apartment directly across from Botham. One of the witnesses came to court wearing athletic shorts and a Dragon Ball Z t-shirt (eyeroll). He claimed that the shooting happened very quickly, within seconds.

Some other background that came out regarding the scene, apparently there are no markings on the outside of the building in the parking garage that indicate what floor youre on. The 3rd floor (where Guyger lived) and the 4th floor (where Botham Jean lived) are identical in layout. Their apartments were located in identical locations on their respective floors. However, Botham Jean had a red welcome mat on the outside of the door, a sign Guyger should have picked up on. Also, door numbers are not actually on the doors themselves but up and to the side of the doors under a light on each door. Each door has a lock with a light on it which flashed red if the wrong key is inserted and flashes green if the correct key is inserted. This same technology is in most hotels nowadays. When tested, Guygers key flashed red, something she should have picked up on when trying to enter the premises. They did a poll of residents in the apartment complex and apparently about 90 other people claimed to have accidentally gotten off on the wrong floor before and about 40 people claimed to have accidentally attempted to open the wrong door. Since the incident, management have made several improvements (such as new signage) to make it clearer as to which floor youre on.


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Alexanaxela
09/25/19 12:34:29 AM
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what a waste of everyone's time this is
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kingdrake2
09/25/19 1:09:26 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Lock her up


10 years or more imo. she has to pay the price.
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_Rinku_
09/25/19 1:15:17 AM
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I hope she goes to jail for a long fucking time. Cops need to be held to the highest standards on this shit if we're to trust them with guns.
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Alexanaxela
09/25/19 8:13:14 AM
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brandunh11 posted...
Day 2 has been going on for 2.5 hours so far. Only two witnesses called to the stand so far. Most relevant of the two was one of the officers who responded to the 911 call and immediately administered first aid techniques to Botham. Body cam footage from the officer was shown. The prosecution is really highlighting the fact that Amber did not offer any first aid assistance while waiting on other officers to arrive even though shes trained to do so.

apparently she was too busy texting her sex buddy while jean botham was laying dying on the floor in his own apartment. Sounds like she parked on the wrong floor cause she was too distracted trying to get laid that night
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The Top Crusader
09/25/19 8:16:09 AM
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metallica846 posted...
Hanky_Bannister posted...
i do all the time. should i get murdered by a dumb pilled up pig?


Not unlocked...OPEN.


Surely no one thinks someone should be murdered for leaving a door ajar, but it is an odd thing to do.
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Dyinglegacy
09/25/19 8:21:46 AM
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She's a butterface if I've ever seen one.

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