Poll of the Day > The Outer Worlds looks sick

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just renewed my gamepass for this, cant wait!

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i'm really pleased to be seeing this game getting high praise! i was worried there for a moment, ok?
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I am definitely psyched for this one. I already have it downloaded, just waiting for release day. Then I'll download the 38GB day one patch so I can play it. :/

I'm glad I upgraded to that gamepass ultimate a few months back for $1. It turned my 2 years and some months of Live into Gamepass Ultimate. If they keep this up I'm sure I'll keep the gamepass subscription going when that all runs out.
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Bugmeat posted...

I am definitely psyched for this one. I already have it downloaded, just waiting for release day. Then I'll download the 38GB day one patch so I can play it. :/

I'm glad I upgraded to that gamepass ultimate a few months back for $1. It turned my 2 years and some months of Live into Gamepass Ultimate. If they keep this up I'm sure I'll keep the gamepass subscription going when that all runs out.

uh, so, no.

the 38gb "day one patch" people were talking about was the actual game itself.

the placeholder download that was 100mb was replaced with that. it's 38gb on the xbox one x, and presumably the pro and pc, and only 17gb on everything else.

if you just have that placeholder, then delete and redownload.

also, the "patch" is just for physical copies. apparently they made so many changes and fixes to the game that it requires them redownloading the entire game again.
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I want to play it
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Yeah looks siiiiick
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I can't get over how Bethesda seems incapable of making NPCs that don't appear to be looking at you cross-eyed or staring into your soul.

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CyborgSage00x0 posted...

I can't get over how Bethesda seems incapable of making NPCs that don't appear to be looking at you cross-eyed or staring into your soul.

Bethesda had literally nothing to do with this.
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It does look great. I'll pick up the complete version at some point.
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...

I can't get over how Bethesda seems incapable of making NPCs that don't appear to be looking at you cross-eyed or staring into your soul.

what about this Obsidian game makes you think bethesda has anything to do with it
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Destiny posted...

what about this Obsidian game makes you think bethesda has anything to do with it

Fallout: New Vagas.
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...

I can't get over how Bethesda seems incapable of making NPCs that don't appear to be looking at you cross-eyed or staring into your soul.

dead eyes, which give the illusion of emptiness being behind them. lacking lifelike animation, resembling more of a doll or mannequin. yeah, dead eyes used to be really prevalent in most games since 3d became popular, but it's a lot better now, ok?

also, bethesda had nothing to do with the outer worlds, ok?
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wwinterj25 posted...

Destiny posted...

what about this Obsidian game makes you think bethesda has anything to do with it

Fallout: New Vagas.

pretty sure that came out years ago and isn't called outer worlds
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Destiny posted...

pretty sure that came out years ago and isn't called outer worlds

Pretty sure Obsidian made that game thus the resemblance here and Bethesda published it hence the confusion.
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Looks good, I can't wait, not sure what kinda character I'm gonna make.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Destiny posted...

pretty sure that came out years ago and isn't called outer worlds

Pretty sure Obsidian made that game thus the resemblance here and Bethesda published it hence the confusion.

they look nothing alike
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No more shit bait from you. Thanks.
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it's not my fault you didn't even look at the review or trailers for it
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Zareth posted...

Bethesda had literally nothing to do with this.

Derp, I knew that. Brain thought of Bethesda, which is also guilty of horrible dead eyes. My mistake, though.

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Destiny posted...

it's not my fault you didn't even look at the review or trailers for it

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you can tell bethesda had nothing to do with it from the apparent lack of bugs
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It does seem to be even more simplified (As far as character creation/leveling) then Fallout 4, and the combat system is more pure FPS (with slowdown) as well.

Stats meanwhile have less range, I believe it's bad/below normal/normal/good/very good or something very similar to that. Each point in any direction does seem to make a larger difference though.

Str affects melee weapons and carrying capacity, but dropping strength if your using a gun drastically reduces your carry load, which would at least be very annoying initially....long term there is a bunch of perks to boost carying capacity (way more then you lose for dropping strength), so this may be a major stat to dump....but it will make starting off more of a pain.

The final stat...temperment, can't be dropped either without ditching all natural hp regen...not something I would want to play with, especially my first time.

Lowering int...because each point has more weight, reduces conversation options with only 1 point. You do not seem to gain more with higher int (at least it's not announced).

Dex seems super important (perception to a lesser degree), it governs so many important things in the game, stealth, lockpicking,guns etc. It even boosts 1 handed melee if I remember right. I believe you have enough starting points to max dex and boost 1 other stat a bit, without reducing any other stat.

Dropping strength 1-2 points initially might work if you are going to get pack mule right away, but even with the 50 from pack mule (80 is base I believe) it is going to be annoying till you get at least tier 2 perks.

Which brings me to perks, there are not as many, and I would imagine everyone is going to grab at least toughtness/precision/pack mule and resilient. That is 4 out of the 5 tier 1 perks. The last remaining perk would depend on your play style a bit, but the above perks are just too important to pass on (maybe pack mule if your playing a very high strength character, but I doubt that will be your first playthorugh).

Tier 2 does have another way to carry more...and I'm not sure how good it is yet. It adds 40kg from companions, but doesn't specify if it's for each of them, or total. If it's for each, and you don't mind starting off barely able to carry anything, you could drop strength at creation, since with pack mule and band of pack mules, you gain either 90kg (50+40) or possibly 130kg (50+40+40). That makes the 40 KG drop from reducing strength initially minor...providing you with 2 bonus stat points. Super pack mule is a final option....giving 100kg more carrying capacity.

Science based guns, if they are fairly common and ammo isn't scare seems the way to go, because you can get a large boost to their damage with perks (50% from 2 perks, for 100% total). Still counts as range so you can get the range perk bonuses as well.

Meanwhile I think (again won't know till I play) they basically made melee effective with the time dialation ability, by allowing you to move at full speed while under the effect (for the first 5 seconds eventually), and resetting it per kill etc. This could let you basically zoom from enemy to enemy and beat them down with melee (in which case you'd obviously want a maxed out strength hehe).

Does seem like a few cool/fun builds, but i'm getting most are not gonna buff strength, and focus on guns, boost dex (possibly maxing it), and therefore, quite likely reducing strength (At least after the first playthrough or restarting midway....once you discover strengths bonus to carrying capacity isn't that important.

Can't wait to play though....just a few more days.
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wolfy42 posted...

It does seem to be even more simplified (As far as character creation/leveling) then Fallout 4,

you mean it has a more simplified character creator than wwe2k19

since we're making comparisons to character creators from different games made by different developers and all
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Destiny posted...

wolfy42 posted...

It does seem to be even more simplified (As far as character creation/leveling) then Fallout 4,

you mean it has a more simplified character creator than wwe2k19

since we're making comparisons to character creators from different games made by different developers and all

Who cares who makes it if it has a perks system, attribute system, skill system and combat system that is almost exactly the same as fallout? The changes I mentioned above are differences from fallout pretty much. Make a fallout clone, and the game is going to be compared to fallout.
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wolfy42 posted...

Destiny posted...

wolfy42 posted...

It does seem to be even more simplified (As far as character creation/leveling) then Fallout 4,

you mean it has a more simplified character creator than wwe2k19

since we're making comparisons to character creators from different games made by different developers and all

Who cares who makes it if it has a perks system, attribute system, skill system and combat system that is almost exactly the same as fallout? The changes I mentioned above are differences from fallout pretty much. Make a fallout clone, and the game is going to be compared to fallout.

probably because none of those things are unique to fallout, at all.

oh, and, aside from combat, wwe2k19 has all of those, too.
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Destiny posted...

wolfy42 posted...

Destiny posted...

wolfy42 posted...

It does seem to be even more simplified (As far as character creation/leveling) then Fallout 4,

you mean it has a more simplified character creator than wwe2k19

since we're making comparisons to character creators from different games made by different developers and all

Who cares who makes it if it has a perks system, attribute system, skill system and combat system that is almost exactly the same as fallout? The changes I mentioned above are differences from fallout pretty much. Make a fallout clone, and the game is going to be compared to fallout.

probably because none of those things are unique to fallout, at all.

oh, and, aside from combat, wwe2k19 has all of those, too.

Honestly in some ways the game looks closer to a fallout 3/NV sequel then Fallout 4 did.

Even some of the perks like Weird Science and it's higher tier version Wild Science, have the same name.

You also have lock picking and hacking etc....seriously if you said this was fallout 5....I don't think anyone would bat an eye.
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wolfy42 posted...

You also have lock picking and hacking etc....seriously if you said this was fallout 5....I don't think anyone would bat an eye.

there's also a spaceship

is this mass effect 5 too
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Destiny posted...

wolfy42 posted...

You also have lock picking and hacking etc....seriously if you said this was fallout 5....I don't think anyone would bat an eye.

there's also a spaceship

is this mass effect 5 too

Nah, fallout 5.....mass effect had a different system all together. Nothing says humanity couldn't eventually actually reach the stars in the fallout universe, and other then not being on earth, this is a fallout sequel.
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wolfy42 posted...

mass effect had a different system all together

it literally did not

wolfy42 posted...

Nothing says humanity couldn't eventually actually reach the stars in the fallout universe

probably the whole fallout thing does

wolfy42 posted...

other then not being on earth

you mean like mass effect?

wolfy42 posted...

this is a fallout sequel

nah this is a mass effect sequel

what this really is is your standard CRPG except in first person

so it's a sequel to balders gate, which, when you think about it, was really a sequel to dungeons, the first ever crpg

so this is dungeons 2 then
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Stop feeding Helly please. Obsidian clearly took inspiration from New Vagas as you know they developed New Vagas and this looks like it in a lot of ways. Nothing more to be said.
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they actually took inspiration from alpha protocol, since this is just that game but fancier and, yknow, they developed it.

and also it came before fallout nv, so really fallout nv is a sequel to alpha protocol.
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I don't know if that one was actually trying to hard or not trying enough.
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you should probably go play alpha protocol then

it's pretty much the prequel
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helly, this game has been compared up and down to fallout new Vegas since it was announced. stop being obtuse

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Destiny posted...

you should probably go play alpha protocol then

it's pretty much the prequel

Now you've ruined it. Sad times. By the way when are you going to make another topic on your shitty taste in games? I feel those topics allow you to express yourself more.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

helly, this game has been compared up and down to fallout new Vegas since it was announced. stop being obtuse

the obtuse ones are the ones comparing it to a game it isn't

wwinterj25 posted...

By the way when are you going to make another topic on your shitty taste in games?

you mean the topics everyone always agrees with me in?

i haven't done one of those in a while, probably because i stopped playing shitty games
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comparing a game to one it isnt? thats what a comparison is lol

also: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2019/10/22/outer-worlds-is-the-fallout-new-vegas-sequel-youve-been-looking-for/#2495aeb07849


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https://www.windowscentral.com/outer-worlds-preview

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you can say it all you want, and provide articles of other people saying it, but it doesn't suddenly make it true

it's wrong, plain and simple
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https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/10/22/will-fallout-fans-like-the-outer-worlds

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1/10 trolling from helly :(

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it's not trolling when it's facts

and the fact is, is that it's not a fallout game, and isn't like a fallout game

if you go into this game expecting fallout, you're going to be disappointed as fuck

go into it expecting alpha protocol, because that's literally what it is except in first person.
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im not saying the game is exactly like it, just similar enough to compare.
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Cant wait to play this new fallout game
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Mead posted...

Cant wait to play this new fallout game

all he ever does here is argue weird shit
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

im not saying the game is exactly like it, just similar enough to compare.

it's also similar to bioshock, mass effect, and borderlands

make those comparisons too, then

or maybe, just maybe, the company that exclusively makes crpgs, just made another crpg.

but this is a sequel to 2018 spiderman, apparently
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because they didnt fucking make bioshock mass effect or borderlands

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

because they didnt fucking make bioshock mass effect or borderlands

that doesn't matter though

wolfy up there just compared the game to fallout 4, a game that obsidian didn't make either

so

if he can do it, i also can do it.
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why are people comparing the last of us to uncharted and not left 4 dead????

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