Board 8 > Kobe Bryant has reportedly died in a helicopter crash.

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davidponte
01/26/20 4:30:09 PM
#102:


Fastbreak posted...
How about everyone who wants to talk legal system go fuck yourself and do it in another topic

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Nelson_Mandela
01/26/20 4:30:43 PM
#103:


MysticBrohan posted...
imagine trusting the legal system
Yeah you know the US legal system has a long history of letting guilty black men go free

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LordoftheMorons
01/26/20 4:31:03 PM
#104:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Really annoying to have to do this, but

1). This wasn't a "young girl" - it was a 19 year-old starfucker
2). The sex was almost certainly consensual
3). The case was dismissed because there was literally no evidence other than the accusation and was in all likelihood fabricated

So no, Kobe Bryant most likely was not a rapist.
The case didn't go forward because his accuser wouldn't testify (which is not proof of innocence; her life was being raked through the mud by Kobe's lawyers). Even in the best case scenario Kobe's statement admitted that she did not see it as consensual.

Nanis23 posted...
Well if people still think he is a rapist 16 years after he was proven not guilty then clearly we have no hope anymore
If you don't trust the legal system....be my guest, enjoy your miserable life
He wasn't "proven not guilty." That's not a thing. And the case was dropped so he wasn't even *found* not guilty.

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SmartMuffin
01/26/20 4:35:03 PM
#105:


And the case was dropped so he wasn't even *found* not guilty.

Right. The case was dropped, so he was found "there is so little evidence that there isn't even a remote chance we could get a conviction."

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FFDragon
01/26/20 4:35:05 PM
#106:


davidponte posted...
How does your helicopter just crash man what the fuck

If there's one thing I've learned from Resident Evil it's to never get on a helicopter.

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swordz9
01/26/20 4:35:28 PM
#107:


Never watched sports, but RIP a legend
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Hardcore_Adult
01/26/20 4:36:21 PM
#108:


Fastbreak posted...
How about everyone who wants to talk legal system go fuck yourself and do it in another topic

This Guy has a point. A Guy has died and people are raking up all bullshit, I'm sure Kobe was no Angel but he wasn't a fucking Nazi or Nonce.

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Corrik7
01/26/20 4:39:18 PM
#109:


Fastbreak posted...
How about everyone who wants to talk legal system go fuck yourself and do it in another topic
Welcome to a forum, buddy. They exist to discuss things. It is relevant to the person at hand.

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WiggumFan267
01/26/20 4:41:08 PM
#110:


this is awful. RIP to everyone onboard.

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LunaticCritic
01/26/20 4:42:23 PM
#111:


True... but also one must have some respect for the dead, no?
If you want to discuss it, sure, but throw it in another topic.

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Pirateking2000
01/26/20 4:43:35 PM
#112:


WiggumFan267 posted...
this is awful. RIP to everyone onboard.


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LordoftheMorons
01/26/20 4:43:47 PM
#113:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Yeah you know the US legal system has a long history of letting guilty black men go free
OJ?

SmartMuffin posted...
Right. The case was dropped, so he was found "there is so little evidence that there isn't even a remote chance we could get a conviction."
And more generally a ton of rape cases are blown off by law enforcement, and many rape victims don't cooperate because of their lives getting dissected. That doesn't mean that they weren't raped. (It doesn't mean that they were, either, but taking it as definitive evidence of factual innocence is ridiculous).

It very well might have been a miscommunication as Kobe claimed, but that's not a conclusion one should be absolutely sure of.

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Nelson_Mandela
01/26/20 4:45:17 PM
#114:


LordoftheMorons posted...
OJ?

And more generally a ton of rape cases are blown off by law enforcement, and many rape victims don't cooperate because of their lives getting dissected. That doesn't mean that they weren't raped. (It doesn't mean that they were, either, but taking it as definitive evidence of factual innocence is ridiculous).

It very well might have been a miscommunication as Kobe claimed, but that's not a conclusion one should be absolutely sure of.
So we should defer to calling him a rapist?

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azuarc
01/26/20 4:46:02 PM
#115:


LunaticCritic posted...
True... but also one must have some respect for the dead, no?
If you want to discuss it, sure, but throw it in another topic.

You clearly haven't been here for some of the other "X has died" threads. TotalBiscuit's comes to mind quite strongly.

I'm from Philadelphia. Kobe grew up a few miles away from me. I remember him going to the prom with Brandy. I remember, more or less, the entire length of his career even though I'm not an NBA fan. I have a lot of respect for Kobe and who he is as a player.

One of my first thoughts after getting over the numb shock was, "Gee, did they ever actually acquit him of those allegations a bunch of years ago? I bet some people are going to call him out on that as part of his legacy."

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LordoftheMorons
01/26/20 4:48:08 PM
#116:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
So we should defer to calling him a rapist?
No, but we should acknowledge that there's evidence to think he may have been.

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KamikazePotato
01/26/20 4:49:45 PM
#117:


I think there's a discussion to be had about how people in general are willing to overlook crimes their favorite entertainers have committed, but this isn't really the topic to do so, this is just a grief topic

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Hardcore_Adult
01/26/20 4:53:21 PM
#118:


^ There's people who'd dig up Michael Jackson and try his skeleton if they could...


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CaptainOfCrush
01/26/20 4:58:20 PM
#119:


Fastbreak posted...
This was like a couple week ago. This is bullshit

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7y_I_YJhjc/?igshid=vcjw2wkhcyfr
Yeah watching this little clip is a punch right in the gut.

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Bartzyx
01/26/20 5:03:36 PM
#120:


The fact is, none of us will ever know if he raped anyone or not so there's really no point in arguing about it.

Especially now that he's dead. rip

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Nelson_Mandela
01/26/20 5:09:57 PM
#121:


LordoftheMorons posted...
No, but we should acknowledge that there's evidence to think he may have been.
Tony: didn't he rape a young girl?
LotM: yes [link]


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Leafeon13N
01/26/20 5:14:05 PM
#123:


Person that's hates basketball but had to live in an LA that wouldn't shut the fuck up about Kobe ever here... The rape allegations were flimsy as shit and pretty obviously fraudulent. Dumb talking point to bring up.
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MajinZidane
01/26/20 5:14:56 PM
#124:


WiggumFan267 posted...
this is awful. RIP to everyone onboard.


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LordoftheMorons
01/26/20 5:20:01 PM
#125:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Tony: didn't he rape a young girl?
LotM: yes [link]
I said most likely yes

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Nelson_Mandela
01/26/20 5:22:31 PM
#126:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I said most likely yes
So "acknowledging that there's evidence to think he may have been" means that you need to label him as a likely rapist. Ie, you're an idiot. Noted.

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Shaduln
01/26/20 5:24:06 PM
#127:


Really a shame. I really don't care about the NBA, but this is still sad.

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Ludwig Von 2
01/26/20 5:27:03 PM
#128:




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Grand Kirby
01/26/20 5:31:17 PM
#129:


I wonder if the Mr Peanut thing is going to change their ad now?

Seems in poor taste to parody celebrity deaths at the moment

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davidponte
01/26/20 5:40:24 PM
#130:


Fuck.

LAPD just confirmed there were 9 people on board. This is new information.

We have 4 unaccounted for people here.
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Hbthebattle
01/26/20 5:40:48 PM
#131:


Jesus Christ...
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ertyu0078
01/26/20 5:54:49 PM
#132:


Post the Shaq rap video he made on Kobe
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Nelson_Mandela
01/26/20 6:07:38 PM
#133:


Grand Kirby posted...
I wonder if the Mr Peanut thing is going to change their ad now?

Seems in poor taste to parody celebrity deaths at the moment
The question we're all wondering

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ertyu0078
01/26/20 6:20:21 PM
#134:


Hmm I wounder if I have any of his basketball cards
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IfGodCouldDie
01/26/20 6:24:40 PM
#135:


LunaticCritic posted...
True... but also one must have some respect for the dead, no?
If you want to discuss it, sure, but throw it in another topic.
Respect for the dead should only be for people you respected when they were alive.

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Raka_Putra
01/26/20 6:35:34 PM
#136:


Rest in peace.

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Jakyl25
01/26/20 6:38:37 PM
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ShatteredElysium
01/26/20 7:19:58 PM
#138:


I'm at the Magic / Clippers game. Super subdued. It was a struggle to drag myself to the game as well so I get it. 24 second violation and an 8 second violation to start the game.

People talking about legal stuff need to get out of here with that crap. This isn't the topic for it and you know it. You don't respect him? Fine then don't come in the topic.
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LOLIAmAnAlt
01/26/20 7:53:09 PM
#139:


Never trusted Helicoptors. Ever since Davey Allison died when I was a kid.

Also, I hope grenade throwing goes way up today and in days to come in CSGO and other games to salute him!

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MZero11
01/26/20 9:04:32 PM
#140:


I'm a Suns and Celtics fan so I grew up hating the Lakers and especially Kobe. He gave me the two-piece combo in 2010 beating both my teams on the way to the championship. But I respected his game so much and liked him after he retired. I'm one of few that still ranked him above LeBron (I wonder how many people will start saying that now)

This is the most shocking celebrity death of my life. RIP

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davidponte
01/26/20 9:08:41 PM
#141:


Scrolling through Twitter and was halfway through watching a 10 second clip in a random reply before realizing that I was likely watching a video of the crash. Do not recommend.
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ninkendo
01/26/20 9:13:53 PM
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davidponte
01/26/20 9:20:56 PM
#143:


I don't even remember the tweet I was looking at as I was mindlessly scrolling and clicking through, but I'm sure a search on Twitter would lead you somewhere.
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Grand Kirby
01/26/20 9:24:46 PM
#144:


A lot of people are sharing videos of what's supposedly the crash, but it seems like it's all BS or trolling.

I haven't watched them myself though, and I don't plan to.

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MZero11
01/26/20 9:27:29 PM
#145:


ShatteredElysium posted...
24 second violation and an 8 second violation to start the game.

Suns/Grizzlies did this too

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davidponte
01/26/20 9:27:52 PM
#146:


I decided that was more than enough and didn't search/research further so that could very well be the case!
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Menji
01/26/20 9:33:48 PM
#147:


MZero11 posted...
Suns/Grizzlies did this too

Blazers/Pacers too

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Wanglicious
01/26/20 9:35:14 PM
#148:


don't trust twitter in these situations.
hell, media frequently get things wrong in breaking news situations because they use twitter sources.

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Wanglicious
01/26/20 9:37:10 PM
#149:


and then there's the board 8 question: does this mean no kobebowl this year or is he going to just dominate everything?

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Leonhart4
01/26/20 9:39:08 PM
#150:


Wanglicious posted...
and then there's the board 8 question: does this mean no kobebowl this year or is he going to just dominate everything?

The Kobe Battle Memorial

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