Board 8 > Are these rumored FF7 Remake spoilers actually real? (spoilers, obviously)

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UItimaterializer
04/05/20 1:18:22 PM
#1:


Seen on 4chan and LL, so take this with a huge grain of salt. But given it's already out in some parts of the world, I just have to know.

Spoiler: the events of VII and AC have already happened in another timeline

Spoiler: the ghost things are Whispers of Fate that try to keep the characters in line with the original game

Spoiler: Biggs and Wedge live. Jessie unsure.

Spoiler: Sephiroth kills Barret, but the whisperers revert time

Spoiler: after the highway chase Cloud and co. fight the Whispers of Fate and beat them, making it so they're no longer bound by the original FFVII's storyline. During the battle the party is shown the clip of an old Nanaki with his cubs running towards a destroyed Midgar, Red XIII guesses it's a vision of the future that awaits them if they fail

Spoiler: Sephiroth shows up after beating them. Fight is basically AC-tier of anime bullshit with Aeris and Today joining in. Sephiroth gets a black wing mid-fight because of course he fucking does

Spoiler: Sephiroth travels back in time to stop himself. After beating Sephiroth, Cloud and the gang must stop Sephiroth, who despite helping them stop Sephiroth was still evil (because he's Sephiroth)

Spoiler: while this happens we flashback to Zack surviving his last stand in an alternate timeline

Spoiler: after beating Sephiroth he teleports Cloud to the "edge of creation" and asks for his help in "defying destiny... together". He refuses and fight similar to their final omnislash duel ensues

Spoiler: the party escapes Midgar. We continue Zack's scene with him walking to Midgar with a comatose Cloud holding on to him. Remake Aeris and alternative Zack sense each other

Can anyone verify this?

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04/05/20 1:23:08 PM
#2:


It's even sillier than that. Mega spoilers ahead.

Sephiroth goes back in time to change things. The time ghosts exist to keep the timeline unaltered, so whenever something happens that would change things too much, they interfere. Ex: Cloud meets Hojo too early, and Hojo tries to tell him that he's not really a Soldier, so the time ghosts kidnap him. Jessie survives, so the time ghosts trick her into grenading herself (she may live, it's unclear). The time interference causes Red XIII to see his future children and Cloud to see the aftermath of Aeris' death. Other weird, silly things like that happen.

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paulg235
04/05/20 1:24:40 PM
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If it's true that the remake won't follow the original's storyline most of the time, it makes me wonder if they'll change up the "End of Disc 1" scene in the next part (like say, Cloud saves Aeris in time from Sephiroth but Sephiroth instead kills Tifa).

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Panthera
04/05/20 1:25:02 PM
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This sounds like a clusterfuck of unimaginable proportions

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swordz9
04/05/20 1:25:19 PM
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Ive avoided spoilers, but everything I have seen from people who played it is basically summed up as please fire Nomura hes ruining everything at Square and this is the last straw
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04/05/20 1:32:12 PM
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paulg235 posted...
Stuff
I bet it's either going to be Aeris realizing she needs to die to save the world and sacrificing herself, or the group deciding they'll fight fate or whatever and no one dying ala FFX. Sephiroth killing Tifa is too obvious for a new twist.

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pjbasis
04/05/20 1:34:44 PM
#7:


please don't remake ffviii

just don't touch it anymore

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ShatteredElysium
04/05/20 1:35:04 PM
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Man, that would be a big fucking bait and switch given how so much of the material they had shown us was praised for being so similar to the original. This would absolutely ruin it for me.
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Tom Bombadil
04/05/20 1:37:20 PM
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why not just

like

remake the game

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04/05/20 1:38:19 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Hold on.

These are real?

Like are you f***ing kidding me?
I could post webms of some of them if you like.

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ShatteredElysium
04/05/20 1:39:03 PM
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Tom Bombadil posted...
why not just

like

remake the game


Yeah I mean the fans have asked for one fucking thing for so many years and then they aren't going to give us that? It's literally free money for just do a graphical update.
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04/05/20 1:47:56 PM
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Kinglicious
04/05/20 1:53:51 PM
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Oh man. I wasn't expecting this game to become Kingdom Hearts.


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LadyVyxx
04/05/20 2:00:03 PM
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Panthera posted...
This sounds like a clusterfuck of unimaginable proportions

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ExThaNemesis
04/05/20 2:00:31 PM
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jesus christ why

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voltch
04/05/20 2:13:47 PM
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About halfway through, but looks like I got shit to look forward to!

It's already been a crazy wild trip so far.

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Whiskey_Nick
04/05/20 2:14:26 PM
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wut

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HeroDelTiempo17
04/05/20 2:17:40 PM
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sorry ff7 purists but this sounds incredible

they really decided to take a conceptual reading of the word "remake," huh

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pjbasis
04/05/20 2:27:02 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
sorry ff7 purists but this sounds incredible

poor soul you must have never played kingdom hearts

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ninkendo
04/05/20 2:29:07 PM
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more like Kingdom Hearts sounds like they made FF7 a better game

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Kotetsu534
04/05/20 2:35:00 PM
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Sigh. You had one job. Well the first time I got my hopes up about a Square game since FFXII and, you know what, I really should've known better.

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Xiahou Shake
04/05/20 2:36:35 PM
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Couldn't help but look at some of this. This sounds legitimately incredible and I can't wait for the mass freak out, lmao.

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ninkendo
04/05/20 2:36:57 PM
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it's like everyone ignored square saying this entire time that this game would be completely separate from original FF7

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Kinglicious
04/05/20 2:39:21 PM
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I just didn't them to mean that literally!

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ExThaNemesis
04/05/20 2:41:43 PM
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nono not getting baited into the whole "Square never said this was a direct remake!"

Nope. That's how it was billed and marketed and for them to release something like this is pure bait and switch.

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HeroDelTiempo17
04/05/20 2:51:27 PM
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pjbasis posted...
poor soul you must have never played kingdom hearts

bruh KH being an incomprehensible clusterfuck is the best part

and, if I'm being honest, the FF7 extended universe was already about 50% clusterfuck before this and I'm honestly not surprised that it's getting even more convoluted

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Heroic Bigpun
04/05/20 2:52:06 PM
#29:


I still don't want to be spoiled, yeah, I know, I don't know why I clicked on this topic. Maybe I just wanted to see the reactions, thank God for spoil tags. But holy shit y'all are making me really want to spoil myself. But I feel like this kind of crap it's probably best experienced for yourself if it's causing this kind of a shitshow

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pjbasis
04/05/20 3:17:12 PM
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ninkendo posted...
it's like everyone ignored square saying this entire time that this game would be completely separate from original FF7

And yet....Remake

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pjbasis
04/05/20 3:18:27 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
and, if I'm being honest, the FF7 extended universe was already about 50% clusterfuck before this and I'm honestly not surprised that it's getting even more convoluted

Oh abso-fucking-lutely. My dumbass hoped it wouldn't affect this though!

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pjbasis
04/05/20 3:20:41 PM
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ninkendo posted...
more like Kingdom Hearts sounds like they made FF7 a better game

Yeah but you dont care about stories at all so why should anyone care about your opinion on that matter.

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pjbasis
04/05/20 3:21:18 PM
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The gameplay wont even be as good as kh anyway!

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UshiromiyaEva
04/05/20 3:28:50 PM
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As someone who does not care about FF7 but I was looking forward to this...I'm torn. This sounds rad, but will I be able to appreciate it?

I am also very curious as to how this is gonna impact reviews.

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pjbasis
04/05/20 3:30:42 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
This sounds rad, but will I be able to appreciate it?

Yeah I feel like this is an especially poor decision because new fans are just gonna be lost.

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Xiahou Shake
04/05/20 3:30:57 PM
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pjbasis posted...
The gameplay wont even be as good as kh anyway!
I dunno. Haven't played the game yet so maybe others can comment but just based on the demo I can easily believe the gameplay will end up better than any KH game not named Kingdom Hearts 2.

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UshiromiyaEva
04/05/20 3:32:16 PM
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I know the story beats for disc 1 (that's where the spoiler is, right?) since I played it back in the day, but past that...absolutely nothing, couldn't tell you a single thing besides who the final boss is.
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Lucavi000
04/05/20 3:33:31 PM
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I imagine the people that are in a tizzy are the ones that hold FF7 on some ridiculously high pedestal and cant stand to see it not go in a 1:1 direction.

We all knew that they were gonna change the game from the start.

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tcaz2
04/05/20 3:34:20 PM
#40:


This makes me 1000x more interested in the series.
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Heroic Bigpun
04/05/20 3:40:41 PM
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So is this what the kids call a reimagining?

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Lucavi000
04/05/20 3:42:19 PM
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A remake you might say. Def. not a remaster lol.

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pjbasis
04/05/20 3:42:25 PM
#43:


Lucavi000 posted...
I imagine the people that are in a tizzy are the ones that hold FF7 on some ridiculously high pedestal and cant stand to see it not go in a 1:1 direction

Only because no ones played it yet.

When people actually start beating it a lot more people will be in a tizzy. It just hits us harder.

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HeroDelTiempo17
04/05/20 3:47:17 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Oh abso-fucking-lutely. My dumbass hoped it wouldn't affect this though!

I went in expecting them to try and tie everything in so that probably explains my difference in perspective! This is above and beyond even what I thought though.

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Lucavi000
04/05/20 3:48:06 PM
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Just gonna accept it for what it is. A re-imagining of an RPG from the past. FF7 with added content and new story lines.

Eventually it will end the same as the PS1 game... in 15 years when part 8 comes out.

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UshiromiyaEva
04/05/20 3:50:44 PM
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I think this is gonna probably see the most backlash from the lapsed gamer who was looking forward to it, who aren't keyed into the industry. People who loved FF7 and don't play games much anymore, but were looking forward to thing.

Gerstmann recanted a story about a guy in a Verizon store working on his phone talking about excited he was for the game, and how the guy had no idea it wasn't "the full game" as we thought at the time. That person is going to be confused as fuck about what's happening.

Actually...maybe people further in know, will this game even be a multiparter? They never ACTUALLY said that it was, right? That was what we assumed because it was "All Midgar".
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Lucavi000
04/05/20 3:52:53 PM
#47:


The game apparently ends in Kalm so I would imagine its going to be the full game broken up into several games.

FF7R-2 anyone? Now with more dress spheres

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ZenOfThunder
04/05/20 3:53:54 PM
#48:


Lmao

How do you fuck up remaking FFVII

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Lucavi000
04/05/20 3:55:09 PM
#49:


You dont. They remade it how they wanted it to be remade.

If its not the remake you wanted them to make then you should just keep playing the game from 1997. But we all know you gonna buy it and play it anyway cause you got no self control.

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MoogleKupo141
04/05/20 3:57:08 PM
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Lucavi000 posted...
Just gonna accept it for what it is. A re-imagining of an RPG from the past. FF7 with added content and new story lines.

Eventually it will end the same as the PS1 game... in 15 years when part 8 comes out.


thats what I wanted, but (remake spoilers) that doesnt really sound like what this is. In a weird way it seems like it keeps the original canon and this is an alternate universe that keeps seeing peeks into the original so things go differently?

I wanted some new stuff, definitely some elaboration on stuff that was already there...but it sounds like we cant even really depend on this game to have everything from the original if this new stuff causes the plot to go off the rails.

Im concerned were going to end up with an ending where your party contains a still alive Aeris and Zack and an alternate universe version of Sephiroth in a final boss fight against an evil Aeris from another timeline.

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