Board 8 > Are these rumored FF7 Remake spoilers actually real? (spoilers, obviously)

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HeroDelTiempo17
04/05/20 3:57:51 PM
#51:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I think this is gonna probably see the most backlash from the lapsed gamer who was looking forward to it, who aren't keyed into the industry. People who loved FF7 and don't play games much anymore, but were looking forward to thing.

Gerstmann recanted a story about a guy in a Verizon store working on his phone talking about excited he was for the game, and how the guy had no idea it wasn't "the full game" as we thought at the time. That person is going to be confused as fuck about what's happening.

Actually...maybe people further in know, will this game even be a multiparter? They never ACTUALLY said that it was, right? That was what we assumed because it was "All Midgar".

I think Tim Rogers also told an anecdote about a FF7 fan who stopped playing games over a decade ago and he had the same thought. That his friend was gonna hate it not for the changes but just because they have NO idea what modern games are like.

So with the story changes uh yeah should be fun

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voltch
04/05/20 3:58:01 PM
#52:


That said, when the game does the good bits, they are really good.

Honeybee Inn stuff was very solid

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pjbasis
04/05/20 4:00:05 PM
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My cousin said he was looking forward to the scene at the end of disc 1 a week ago and I was like "Wellllllllllll"

Now I have so much more to say lmao

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MoogleKupo141
04/05/20 4:00:24 PM
#54:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I think this is gonna probably see the most backlash from the lapsed gamer who was looking forward to it, who aren't keyed into the industry. People who loved FF7 and don't play games much anymore, but were looking forward to thing.

Gerstmann recanted a story about a guy in a Verizon store working on his phone talking about excited he was for the game, and how the guy had no idea it wasn't "the full game" as we thought at the time. That person is going to be confused as fuck about what's happening.

Actually...maybe people further in know, will this game even be a multiparter? They never ACTUALLY said that it was, right? That was what we assumed because it was "All Midgar".


Im fairly confident theyve confirmed theyre doing multiple parts, and what Ive read of spoilers definitely doesnt suggest the remakes ending isnt setting up for a continuation.
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ninkendo
04/05/20 4:01:31 PM
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now if they were smart they would just release the sequels as DLC for the base game

but we know they won't do that

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pjbasis
04/05/20 4:02:11 PM
#56:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
This is above and beyond even what I thought though.

I know! I the thought the worst was gonna be something to do with Genesis or something but this is another level.

On the other hand get fucked advent children lmao

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Lucavi000
04/05/20 4:02:13 PM
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Would you rather pay for 30 DLCs at 20 a piece of 3 more games at 60? lol

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BlAcK TuRtLe
04/05/20 4:04:30 PM
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Fucks sake this better be fake, I literally just pre-ordered it, and I never pre-order games

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Lucavi000
04/05/20 4:05:38 PM
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Shouldnt have read any spoilers if you pre-ordered a game.

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INCEPTlON
04/05/20 6:49:11 PM
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Reminds me of the reboot of Mortal Kombat

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Nelson_Mandela
04/05/20 6:53:25 PM
#61:


Hahahaha oh my god square how did you do it

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Nelson_Mandela
04/05/20 6:56:10 PM
#62:


Also I actually kind of love this. The original FFVII remains the GOAT.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/05/20 6:57:39 PM
#63:


Holy shit.

I don't care about this remake but I have no idea how they could possibly think this is a good idea. People just wanted Final Fantasy VII. NOBODY who played the game for nostalgia and doesn't play games much at all anymore is going to want this shit. Like, this should have been the easiest money maker ever. These casuals aren't going to buy the rest of it after the first one is such a shit show like this.

What the hell were they thinking?

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Nelson_Mandela
04/05/20 7:03:16 PM
#64:


Also conceptually I kind of LOVE the idea of deconstructing what a "remake" is but I have zero faith that Nomura can pull it off with any kind of success whatsoever.

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Kotetsu534
04/05/20 7:03:19 PM
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There's a massive gap between "complete fidelity to the original" and what it sounds like they've done. Obviously in a remake you're going to edit the script, cut some events out, add some minigames and sideplots, rebuild the battle system, make the environments and soundtrack anew etc... but that doesn't mean you throw away all the highlights everyone remembers and wants to see done with today's technology.

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swordz9
04/05/20 7:06:02 PM
#66:


Cant wait until Part 2 where Yuffie takes over as the main heroine
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/05/20 7:06:55 PM
#67:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Also conceptually I kind of LOVE the idea of deconstructing what a "remake" is but I have zero faith that Nomura can pull it off with any kind of success whatsoever.
I mean, Final Fantasy VII is probably not the game to do that sort of thing with.

Like literally any other game on the fucking planet before Final Fantasy VII.

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UshiromiyaEva
04/05/20 7:08:48 PM
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It is funny to think about how we had an argument like a month ago about which localization quirks they should and will keep in....can't keep in what isn't there.
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Tom Bombadil
04/05/20 7:12:54 PM
#69:


swordz9 posted...
Cant wait until Part 2 where Lightning takes over as the main heroine


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MoogleKupo141
04/05/20 7:14:01 PM
#70:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
It is funny to think about how we had an argument like a month ago about which localization quirks they should and will keep in....can't keep in what isn't there.


I hope with all these changes they still kept in this guy are sick
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Nelson_Mandela
04/05/20 7:18:07 PM
#71:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I mean, Final Fantasy VII is probably not the game to do that sort of thing with.

Like literally any other game on the fucking planet before Final Fantasy VII.
You're right. Seems more fitting for a game with a simpler arc, like an ocarina of time remake.

There was never any theme of "destiny" in FFVII. FFX would be the FF for that!

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UshiromiyaEva
04/05/20 7:23:56 PM
#72:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
You're right. Seems more fitting for a game with a simpler arc, like an ocarina of time remake.

There was never any theme of "destiny" in FFVII. FFX would be the FF for that!

Surprise! This is the game where they reveal the FFX/VII same universe theory was true all along! Next part ends with a boss fight against Sin.
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Nelson_Mandela
04/05/20 7:32:24 PM
#73:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Surprise! This is the game where they reveal the FFX/VII same universe theory was true all along! Next part ends with a boss fight against Sin.
Oh god

This is plausible

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Maniac64
04/05/20 7:34:32 PM
#74:


I look forward to Sephiroth walking. through fire in a burning Dream Zanarkand

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BlAcK TuRtLe
04/05/20 7:34:51 PM
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Like, this plot reads like some tripe out of their mobile games like Record Keeper. Just give us an RE style remake and we'll be happy. Fuck Square

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Leonhart4
04/05/20 7:46:05 PM
#76:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
You're right. Seems more fitting for a game with a simpler arc, like an ocarina of time remake.

There was never any theme of "destiny" in FFVII. FFX would be the FF for that!

Actually, FFVIII is the game whose theme is fate/destiny!

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Nelson_Mandela
04/05/20 7:46:38 PM
#77:


Leonhart4 posted...
Actually, FFVIII is the game whose theme is fate/destiny!
And time travel hmmm

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Xiahou Shake
04/05/20 7:49:40 PM
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Hot take, what if the true identity of the time ghosts is actually the fandom, desperately trying to force the story to be exactly what it was before, even if it brings suffering to the characters in-universe? ;)

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Hbthebattle
04/05/20 7:51:29 PM
#79:


UshiromiyaEva posted...


Surprise! This is the game where they reveal the FFX/VII same universe theory was true all along! Next part ends with a boss fight against Sin.

Wasn't that not a theory but just in the Ultimania?
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Nelson_Mandela
04/05/20 7:52:01 PM
#80:


Xiahou Shake posted...
Hot take, what if the true identity of the time ghosts is actually the fandom, desperately trying to force the story to be exactly what it was before, even if it brings suffering to the characters in-universe? ;)
That would honestly be a brilliant metaphor

But you know this is more about Nomura thinking it's badass than anything thematically interesting

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UshiromiyaEva
04/05/20 8:04:44 PM
#81:


Xiahou Shake posted...
Hot take, what if the true identity of the time ghosts is actually the fandom, desperately trying to force the story to be exactly what it was before, even if it brings suffering to the characters in-universe? ;)

A Recent-ish game already did this and people couldn't decide if it was the best ending or the worst ending (answer is it was the best).
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Anagram
04/05/20 8:05:11 PM
#82:


UshiromiyaEva posted...


A Recent-ish game already did this and people couldn't decide if it was the best ending or the worst ending (answer is it was the best).
You talking about MGSV?

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UshiromiyaEva
04/05/20 8:05:56 PM
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I am not going to say what I'm talking about, but people that know know!
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Xiahou Shake
04/05/20 8:07:12 PM
#84:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
A Recent-ish game already did this and people couldn't decide if it was the best ending or the worst ending (answer is it was the best).
Aww yeah, true quality taste right here.

Hilarious because the people who say it's the worst are the exact sort of people the story is talking about.

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UshiromiyaEva
04/05/20 8:09:34 PM
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Lol true that.

"The ending was telling me I sucked" . If you think the ending was about you then maybe you do suck!
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Hbthebattle
04/05/20 8:14:17 PM
#86:


UshiromiyaEva posted...


A Recent-ish game already did this and people couldn't decide if it was the best ending or the worst ending (answer is it was the best).

I see your opinions are in harmony with mine on that ending.
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Thenenen
04/05/20 8:25:05 PM
#88:


Make it stop

MAKE IT STOP

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scigeek101
04/05/20 8:26:48 PM
#89:


Lucavi000 posted...
I imagine the people that are in a tizzy are the ones that hold FF7 on some ridiculously high pedestal and cant stand to see it not go in a 1:1 direction.

We all knew that they were gonna change the game from the start.

Nah like if they wanted to do their own thing with the story and not stick to the original, that's quite right.

But time travel ghost bullshit. Yeah nah. Be skipping this.
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Thenenen
04/05/20 8:33:37 PM
#90:


Xiahou Shake posted...
Hot take, what if the true identity of the time ghosts is actually the fandom, desperately trying to force the story to be exactly what it was before, even if it brings suffering to the characters in-universe? ;)
That's not a hot take, that's the surface observation. Pretty much everyone who's played FF7 has at some point also played Metal Gear Solid 2 later on. The difference is that Kojima was making a point, not trying to create a criticism shield and/or license to imply that what they're doing is "better" than what used to be FF7.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/05/20 8:35:00 PM
#91:


Thenenen posted...
Pretty much everyone who's played FF7 has at some point also played Metal Gear Solid 2 later on.
lmao fucking what dude

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Thenenen
04/05/20 8:37:19 PM
#92:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
lmao fucking what dude
Wishful projection. Since /v/ is so obsessed with Hideo Kojima, I'd at least hope that they'd understand what he was going for.

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Tom Bombadil
04/05/20 8:38:53 PM
#93:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Lol true that.

"The ending was telling me I sucked" . If you think the ending was about you then maybe you do suck!

that'll teach you to like things!

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LeonhartFour
04/05/20 8:39:04 PM
#94:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Like can you imagine being Irvine in disc 1 and knowing deep down that Seeds are the bad guys?


No, because I highly doubt he thinks that.
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Thenenen
04/05/20 8:42:11 PM
#95:


Tom Bombadil posted...
that'll teach you to like things!
At some point videogames are going to end up undergoing a legitimate trial by fire for whether or not they harm human society just by continuing to exist.

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UshiromiyaEva
04/05/20 8:42:24 PM
#96:


Tom Bombadil posted...
that'll teach you to like things!

If that's your takeaway then I can't help ya!
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Thenenen
04/05/20 9:11:45 PM
#97:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
If that's your takeaway then I can't help ya!
That's not our takeaway, that's journalism's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-MKzl1mig

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Nelson_Mandela
04/05/20 9:15:36 PM
#98:


Imagine a company investing nine figures in an experimental meta art project disguised as an HD remake

This is incredible

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Nelson_Mandela
04/05/20 9:18:13 PM
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Also I wonder how little sense this game will make for anyone who has never played OG FFVII

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xp1337
04/05/20 9:24:01 PM
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wow missed opportunity to name this Rebuild of Final Fantasy VII.

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