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Eddv
11/04/20 10:04:23 PM
#201:


Phenomenal show ending promo by Cody too. God i love that man.

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/04/20 10:05:43 PM
#202:


Yeah but I mean before that fucking Austin Gunn wins in the main event.

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Eddv
11/04/20 10:35:45 PM
#203:


I see people freaking out about that, but hey whatever. He pinned a fucking jobber, get over it.

Also if you're interested in watching a little wrestling outside the weekly grind, we have our Match of the Week topic where myself, Iceman, Bidoof, and series of guest stars will nominate matches for the others to watch and comment on

This week is a great low investment week to jump in on because its all matches under 15 minutes.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79083516

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Maniac64
11/04/20 10:38:04 PM
#204:


Unfortunate(?) Pause screen.



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PrivateBiscuit1
11/04/20 10:42:45 PM
#205:


Eddv posted...
I see people freaking out about that, but hey whatever. He pinned a fucking jobber, get over it.

Also if you're interested in watching a little wrestling outside the weekly grind, we have our Match of the Week topic where myself, Iceman, Bidoof, and series of guest stars will nominate matches for the others to watch and comment on

This week is a great low investment week to jump in on because its all matches under 15 minutes.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79083516
I mean, I'm not freaking out. lol I just wouldn't make the choice to give a perpetual annoying Dark jobber the win in the main event of the go home show. It just seems pointless. He's probably my second least favorite in AEW aside from Brandi.

I may check out that topic though, thanks!

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Maniac64
11/04/20 10:45:50 PM
#206:


Kingston/Moxley was indeed amazing.

I dont want this feud to end.

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Eddv
11/04/20 10:56:11 PM
#207:


I mean I'm not sure what theyre doing with this expanded Nightmare Family, but putting over the new members of the stable seems like an okay idea on paper at least.

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/04/20 10:57:52 PM
#208:


I'd probably be more okay with it if they had Mox/Kingston close the show, which they absolutely should have regardless.

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Maniac64
11/04/20 10:59:33 PM
#209:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I'd probably be more okay with it if they had Mox/Kingston close the show, which they absolutely should have regardless.
Bucks/FTR has been built longer and is the bigger match on paper.

But this build for Eddie/Mox is so good. Kingston just sells the importance of the titles better than anyone.

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/04/20 11:06:34 PM
#210:


But Bucks/FTR has frankly had such a shitty build up that they should've just gotten this match over with months ago. Kingston/Mox is simple, to the point, and already feels a million times better than Bucks/FTR. Like, Bucks/FTR will be an awesome match because all the Young Bucks have are awesome matches, but you could put them in there with, say, Chaos Theory or something and they'd have an awesome match. FTR has been such a let down that it's just nothing special anymore.

But anyway, the superior slow burn match up is going on right now in Cody vs. The Master of the Tornado DDT Fuego Del Sol. And that won't be nearly as disappointing as Bucks/FTR.

https://youtu.be/9AnAHj6p2gc?t=370

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/05/20 12:04:56 PM
#211:


Welp... Props to Matt for gutting it out, but it looks like FTR is going to retain. Who the hell does FTR even feud now and how do we get the titles off them please.

https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/report-matt-jackson-dealing-partially-torn-mcl-and-thinning-acl

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Eddv
11/05/20 2:26:09 PM
#212:


I think Bucks win and then quickly drop the titles to pnp

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TheRock1525
11/05/20 3:16:43 PM
#213:


Has PnP had a shot at the titles yet?

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_PandaMaster_
11/06/20 11:50:36 AM
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11/06/20 4:36:00 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1
11/06/20 5:08:05 PM
#216:


So I listened to Miro on Talk is Jericho and a few thoughts.

- Vince really does fucking pass the buck on literally everything.
- The wrestlers will never be able to start a union in WWE because there are so many stooges among them.
- Miro claims he and Lana never leaked their engagement photos and that Lana only sent it to her female friends and to the office. He says he doesn't know who leaked it yet.
- Miro said when he was going to do the fuck angle that it was pitched to him as being in one of the Wrestlemania main events
- Miro says that he had to convince them not to give him an erectile dysfunction story in the fuck angle and he had to talk them out of it.
- Miro claims there were about 10 of them talking about feeling unsafe wrestling with Covid like they were and the very next day, they were confronted and the office already knew about them talking about it. Stooges.
- Amusingly, Miro was almost fired from WWE over a Smackdown dark match I went to (my last WWE show I was at). It was because they had the referee do a superkick party with the Usos against him, Aiden English, and someone else. They were all fined for it and they said if Rusev didn't kick out when he did, he would've been fired. Jericho says that's all bullshit and they used to do more outrageous stuff during dark matches.

Pretty solid listen.

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ShatteredElysium
11/06/20 10:03:55 PM
#217:


Christ, the combined 30 mins I've watched WWE in the last few weeks had Jey Uso destroying Daniel Bryan and Jey Uso going clean over Kevin Owens. Like I don't care what story he's in, I'd watch for Bryan, I'd watch for KO but I have zero interest in an Uso storyline. That's not how you get me watching again
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Jakyl25
11/06/20 10:45:19 PM
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Maniac64
11/06/20 11:00:44 PM
#219:


I'm gonna go with tag match with the two guys on each side

5 way with the middle 5.

White vest guy and white wrist band guy in a singles match.

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Tom Bombadil
11/06/20 11:48:44 PM
#220:


5 dudes, 6 managers?

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Jakyl25
11/07/20 12:02:11 AM
#221:


Tom Bombadil posted...
5 dudes, 6 managers?


This is the actual answer, its just how could you possibly know
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Maniac64
11/07/20 12:28:53 PM
#222:


Jakyl25 posted...
This is the actual answer, its just how could you possibly know
Wait seriously? That's absurd. Dont put them all on the poster then.

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Jakyl25
11/07/20 12:33:21 PM
#223:


Well now Im being told that it could be any 5 of those 11 and they dont know yet
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Maniac64
11/07/20 12:39:08 PM
#224:


That's somehow even dumber

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/07/20 12:50:53 PM
#225:


I feel like we're putting too much thought into a match nobody will watch anyway.

Are we convinced WWE even books 205 Live shows, or do they just have a bunch of smaller dudes just going out and wrestling and pay a camera man to record it?

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/07/20 1:48:20 PM
#226:


Ayyyyy AEW Full Gear Predix

Jon Moxley (c) vs. Eddie Kingston - "I Quit" Match - AEW World Championship

Cody [Rhodes] (c) (with Arn Anderson) vs. Darby Allin - AEW TNT Championship

FTR (Cash Wheeler and Dax Harwood) (c) vs. The Young Bucks (Matt Jackson and Nick Jackson) - AEW World Tag Team Championship (If The Young Bucks lose, they will never challenge for the AEW World Tag Team Championship again; Tully Blanchard is banned from ringside)

"Hangman" Adam Page vs. Kenny Omega - AEW World Championship Eliminator Tournament Finals (Winner receives a future AEW World Championship match)

Matt Hardy vs. Sammy Guevara - The Elite Deletion Match

Hikaru Shida (c) vs. Nyla Rose (with Vickie Guerrero) - AEW Women's World Championship

Chris Jericho vs. MJF (with Wardlow) (If MJF wins, he is allowed to join The Inner Circle)

Orange Cassidy vs. John Silver (If John Silver loses, Anna Jay probably beats up Stu)

Serena Deeb (c) vs. Allysin Kay - NWA World Women's Championship

Kingston
Cody
FTR
Page
Hardy
Nyla
MJF
OC
Deeb

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Maniac64
11/07/20 1:57:31 PM
#227:


Wow that is quite the prediction.

Here is mine:
No Contest (I can hope. But really Moxley)
Cody (but I hope Darby)
Bucks
Omega
Hardy
Shida
MJF
Orange
Deeb

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ZeroSignal620
11/07/20 2:30:03 PM
#228:


Update on SvS card...
Orton vs Reigns
Lashley vs Zayn
Asuka vs Sasha
New Day vs Street Profits
Styles/Sheamus/Lee/Strowman/TBA vs Jey/Owens/Corbin/Rollins/TBA
Nia/Shayna/Dana/Mandy/Lana vs Bianca/Riott/3 others to be determined

Also lol @ Otis' booking. 6 months ago he had a decently over tag team, a hot girlfriend, and the MITB Briefcase. Now he has nothing and Tucker is regularly jobbing on Main Event.

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Steiner
11/07/20 3:55:37 PM
#229:


deserved
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PrivateBiscuit1
11/07/20 3:56:02 PM
#230:


Otis just needed to grab the brass ring... He needed to wait his turn... People didn't REALLY like him... Etc.

Also, Mercedes Martinez requested to be removed from Retribution. I imagine she's veteran enough to be like "Yo fuck this stupid shit." That said, she had to know that any chance of her getting booked in WWE would involve her doing stupid shit like that, so she shouldn't have signed there if she wasn't willing to do it.

Like, if you sign for WWE at this point you have to understand they're going to give you dog shit to work with unless you are extremely lucky.

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Eddv
11/07/20 4:29:58 PM
#231:


Look is Otis good enough to be a good world champion? Obviously not.

But he had gotten over ans they could have used that

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/07/20 6:20:28 PM
#232:


So I finally got around to listening to Talk is Jericho with Andrew Yang. Really good interview, but he talked a lot about WWE's contracts and now that we have Biden as president, it seems relevant to bring up what he said now!

  • First off, Yang is currently on Biden's campaign. So he knows everyone he needs to in order to make change happen.
  • Yang says he feels entirely confident that he'll get change for people in WWE.
  • WWE talent sent him multiple contracts because they were sick of how they're treated.
  • Yang talks about how he understands why people sign these predatory contracts; because they have no other options to be at the top of the industry.
  • It's difficult to bring cases against companies for misclassification of employees because they normally need someone to step up and talk about how they were mistreated, which puts their career at jeopardy.
  • HOWEVER, Yang also said that he has multiple people willing to testify either in the company or recent ex-employees willing to speak out about it because they all understand it's wrong. He said one superstar "has been there for so long" that he will be willing to speak out "Because he's been there for so long there's literally nothing they can do to me at this point." (My guess is Ziggler tbh)
  • He also mentioned people talk about feeling like they're being treated fairly in AEW as opposed to WWE. Jericho discussed about how all travel and lodging and everything is figured out and paid for.
  • Yang talks about how he can see why AEW treats their wrestlers differently, because Tony Khan comes from a football background so they treat them like they're football players. WWE has always treated their employees like this, so he understands them not wanting to change.
  • Yang estimates that WWE has saved hundreds of millions of dollars for classifying wrestlers as independent contractors.
  • He also states that this can go two ways: 1) WWE can play ball and make the changes and treat wrestlers like employees rather than independent contractors and work with them to make it a smooth transition; or 2) WWE can be drug through it, oppose it, and go kicking and screaming during the process, and then they would all but show the WWE employees that they are actively fighting from letting them be treated fairly and prove they don't care about them at all, which is a bad look.
  • He outright says he's absolutely going to make this happen and make it better for wrestlers in WWE. There is no question.
From the way he was talking, he really does feel beyond confident that he'll be able to follow through on this. Thanks Andrew Yang!

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scarletspeed7
11/07/20 6:33:09 PM
#233:


I listened to the same interview a couple weeks ago and I really found it fascinating how much work he's already poured into this project; I hope that he can continue the momentum now with the election finished. He'll have an uphill battle in the court system, however.

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/07/20 6:48:55 PM
#234:


I dunno, we all have said how obvious it is that wrestlers are not independent contractors. Proving that should be simple, especially with a guy with the resources and the labor departments now on his side, and with current and recent WWE wrestlers willing to speak out. The reason WWE can still do this is simply because they've just never been challenged on it.

If Andrew Yang feels confident in it as a guy a hell of a lot more knowledgeable on it than almost anyone else, I'm willing to believe in his confidence here.

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/07/20 9:45:20 PM
#235:


Full Gear has been totally awesome so far. I'm glad they've bounced back after the last PPV. I think it probably being cooler outside for the crowd probably helps too.

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TheRock1525
11/08/20 12:04:03 AM
#236:


https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/1325124209903800322?s=19

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/09/20 4:01:45 PM
#237:


I didn't give a lot of Full Gear thoughts but I think it's probably the best PPV AEW has ever done since they officially began weekly.

Even the worst match, Nyla vs. Shida was really damn good.

I think Bucks vs. FTR lived up to the hype.

Eddie Kingston not winning makes me sad, but I was hoping he would win anyway. He just makes me feel so much for him and I don't know where he goes from here. The feud was just so simple and so perfect and I wish he could have just won, even if the plan is clearly Mox > Omega > Hangman. Maybe Kingston can get involved in the TNT Title picture or something. I dunno.

But speaking of Eddie Kingston, BTE is beyond worth watching entirely for his promo he cut after the match. There is not a single person in wrestling who can make me feel like Eddie Kingston can. Like fuck. This man just rips into his soul.

I can't timestamp now, but it's at around the 25 minute mark. It's just so raw and real.

https://youtu.be/b6Mv-30qYoQ

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skullbone
11/09/20 4:09:50 PM
#238:


I've watched two AEW PPVs and none of the weekly shows. The last PPV I watched was the one with the unsanctioned match between Moxley and Omega (one year ago maybe?). I usually just forget that the PPVs are on Saturday instead of Sunday.

Full Gear was great but the Omega v Hangman match wasn't my favorite and the Darby Allin match felt like a squash considering how much time he spent on the mat. I swear he had about 5% offense for the entire match and then he won on basically a roll-up. When those two guys attacked after the match I was thinking why is Cody winded? He was basically untouched for the whole match!

But I like AEW, I might try to make more of an effort to watch it.

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/09/20 4:45:13 PM
#239:


I think both Hangman vs. Omega and Darby vs. Cody (and the subsequent beat down) are a lot better if you follow the product too. The build up for both matches was really great (even if Darby's build up for the match was shorter).

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TheRock1525
11/09/20 11:20:20 PM
#240:


https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/1325892834982060034

Oh, Chris... No, Chris, no.

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Jakyl25
11/09/20 11:23:41 PM
#241:


The Demo God has left the demo
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PrivateBiscuit1
11/10/20 6:25:11 PM
#242:


Yet again, somebody else is injured while doing spots with Nia Jax.

...But I think this time it might actually not be her fault?

https://twitter.com/JFree82/status/1326010515240390656?s=19

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/10/20 9:06:01 PM
#243:


AEW VIDEO GAMES OMG

https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1326314817888645128?s=19

https://youtu.be/s0Cgu-I_dS4

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Maniac64
11/11/20 9:17:10 AM
#244:


What do they mean by No Mercy style? Hoping its championship mode and the like and not gameplay. Cause that gameplay is pretty outdated by this point.

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/11/20 11:34:37 AM
#245:


Kenny Omega mentioned he wanted to make a simple game that is hard to master, so it might be that it's an updated No Mercy style game.

Also, AEW is money for grabbing The Acclaimed. I need more Caster diss tracks and more Bowen reactions.

https://twitter.com/JakesBadTweets/status/1326389307083546624?s=20

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Eddv
11/11/20 1:25:20 PM
#246:


I need those guys in a program with the Best Friends right now.

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HashtagSEP
11/11/20 1:31:06 PM
#247:


Maniac64 posted...
What do they mean by No Mercy style? Hoping its championship mode and the like and not gameplay. Cause that gameplay is pretty outdated by this point.

I'd kill for a game with No Mercy style gameplay compared to the crap we've had since.

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Maniac64
11/11/20 3:21:01 PM
#248:


I like the positional (collar and elbow/arm wrench/headlock) grapples of modern WWE games more than just strong/weak grapples of No Mercy era. You get more move options and it feels more fluid.

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/11/20 4:04:27 PM
#249:


I haven't played the WWE games in forever, not have I played the newer arcade-style ones, but haven't they been largely panned for being shitty yearly cash-ins with little change in gameplay and somehow more bugs every year?

Kenny seemed like he wanted something simple yet challenging. I'm willing to believe they're going to try a No Mercy style with more to it. However that may be.

But guys, GM GAME. Kenny Omega has finally bested Austin Creed. It's devastating.

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/11/20 4:37:55 PM
#250:


Sounds like Pentagon vs. Fenix will be main eventing Dynamite tonight! Should be a banger!

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