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Smackems
03/19/21 4:45:32 PM
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Smackems
03/19/21 4:48:25 PM
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Skyrim > ESO > Oblivion > Morrowind

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Eyeratosthenes
03/19/21 4:49:24 PM
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Haven't played MW

I won't even dignify Skyrim by ranking it in the same sequence as Oblivion. I'm of the opinion that Skyrim doesn't do anything well as a game

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JimmyFraska
03/19/21 4:50:05 PM
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It's a testament to how good they are/how trash the industry has been that people can argue for each of these games.

Morrowind is undoubtedly the most immersive and most well written of them all, best RPG, most freedom. Old graphics and combat style turn people off.

Skyrim has a beautiful landscape and graphics, best combat. That's about it. Oblivion is inferior to Skyrim mechanically, but its actual quest content is superior. Both of their quests and writing are really inferior to Morrowind.
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Heavy_D_Forever
03/19/21 4:50:10 PM
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Oblivion is my favorite but it has aged pretty poorly. The Skyrim mod that added Oblivion looked amazing but I'm not sure they ever finished it.

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Veggeta X
03/19/21 4:50:12 PM
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There was a time where Morrowind fanboys were so fucking oppressive. Thank god they all gone now.

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Smackems
03/19/21 4:50:13 PM
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Eyeratosthenes posted...
Haven't played MW

I won't even dignify Skyrim by ranking it in the same sequence as Oblivion. I'm of the opinion that Skyrim doesn't do anything well as a game
Glitch videos tho

Even if you hate it you gotta give it that

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meralonne
03/19/21 4:50:58 PM
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You truly live in Bizarro-world, TC, because that's completely backward. You might make the argument for Skyrim being better than Oblivion, but neither one is as good as Morrowind.

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Smackems
03/19/21 4:51:56 PM
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Morrowind has aged so god damn bad

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Ivynn
03/19/21 4:52:16 PM
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Modded Skyrim > Morrowind > Oblivion > Skyrim

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JimmyFraska
03/19/21 4:53:22 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
There was a time where Morrowind fanboys were so fucking oppressive. Thank god they all gone now.
It just depends on what you grade it on. If it's the story/world/writing, it is easily superior to Oblivion/Skyrim. It's melee combat and bow combat is inferior. Graphics are old, obviously not as good. Other than that though Morrowind wins every other category basically
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Smackems
03/19/21 4:54:22 PM
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JimmyFraska posted...
It just depends on what you grade it on. If it's the story/world/writing, it is easily superior to Oblivion/Skyrim. It's melee combat and bow combat is inferior. Graphics are old, obviously not as good. Other than that though Morrowind wins every other category basically
Imo 0 of that is better than Skyrim or Oblivion

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JimmyFraska
03/19/21 4:54:44 PM
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Smackems posted...
Morrowind has aged so god damn bad
I think it's style has actually aged better than Oblivion's. It has a stronger art style. Whereas Oblivion is generic Europe with potato faces.
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luigi13579
03/19/21 4:55:10 PM
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Technically (i.e. in terms of combat, graphics, physics, AI, etc.), sure.

Morrowind is definitely my overall favorite though, warts and all.
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Metal_Bug
03/19/21 4:56:12 PM
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Morrowind is a top 5 game of all time to me.

Skyrim is fun as hell when I'm in the mood for it. I probably wouldn't put it in a top 20, though.

Never played Oblivion.
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JimmyFraska
03/19/21 4:56:28 PM
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Smackems posted...
Imo 0 of that is better than Skyrim or Oblivion
Why do you think so? The factions were actually diverse. You had more choices you had to make. The writing flowed really well in places (they had a really good writer that was not there for the following games). What do you dislike about MW's quests/writing compared to the others?
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Smackems
03/19/21 4:58:34 PM
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JimmyFraska posted...
I think it's style has actually aged better than Oblivion's. It has a stronger art style. Whereas Oblivion is generic Europe with potato faces.
Lmao I miss those potato faces

JimmyFraska posted...
Why do you think so? The factions were actually diverse. You had more choices you had to make. The writing flowed really well in places (they had a really good writer that was not there for the following games). What do you dislike about MW's quests/writing compared to the others?
I have yet to find good, interesting writing in an ES game

Again, my opinion

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pogo_rabid
03/19/21 5:01:28 PM
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I never played Morrowind, and Oblivion was my first game in the series.

People who say Oblivion is better in Skyrim are out of their minds. It's a direct upgrade in every conceivable way.

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Blue_Popo
03/19/21 5:03:14 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
I never played Morrowind, and Oblivion was my first game in the series.

People who say Oblivion is better in Skyrim are out of their minds. It's a direct upgrade in every conceivable way.

I think I preferred the quest lines, especially the dark brotherhood in oblivion
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Irony
03/19/21 5:03:33 PM
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Nah lmao

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pogo_rabid
03/19/21 5:04:27 PM
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From a gameplay standpoint, it's fundamentally better though, which is the important part imo.

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Irony
03/19/21 5:05:23 PM
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From a gameplay standpoint all of them have fucking garbage gameplay

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Funkydog
03/19/21 5:05:59 PM
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Oblivion/Morrowind levelling and combat is beyond awful and Skyrim, while not amazing, is miles better.

For story, quests, factions? Skyrim is significantly worse in all regards. Dawnguard/Dragonborn DLC does step it up a lot though at least.

Skyrim is the one I still play though, in large part to plethora of mods and how easy it is to play and just go do whatever you want.

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meralonne
03/19/21 5:07:14 PM
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Irony posted...
From a gameplay standpoint all of them have fucking garbage gameplay

True, but you could do some really fun shit with magic/magic effects in Morrowind. The best Skyrim could offer was dual casting. Total downgrade.

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pogo_rabid
03/19/21 5:10:07 PM
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Irony posted...
From a gameplay standpoint all of them have fucking garbage gameplay
Ok.

Then Oblivion gates existing completely destroys any argument that Oblivion is better than any game in the series.

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MonkeyBones23
03/19/21 5:13:33 PM
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Skyrim was a big disappointment for me. I fell in love with Oblivion and still revisit it every once in a while. Never played Morrowind myself.

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Zikten
03/19/21 5:14:29 PM
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Morrowind is the only ES game where I finished the main quest. Because I got hooked. It was a very unique and interesting plot. Oblivion and Skyrim main quests are more generic fantasy stories
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doomcrusader
03/19/21 5:16:38 PM
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I'd love a remastered Morrowind with voice acting and improved combat and graphics. I've tried to get into morrowind as is, but it really has aged poorly.

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electricbugs2
03/19/21 5:18:29 PM
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ES is one of the few series where almost every mainline game has an extremely vocal fan base that hates the rest of the games.

Im team Morrowind but fans of Daggerfall absolutely despise Morrowind for dumbing down ideas from 2, Morrowind fans dislike Oblivion for going generic fantasy, etc.

IMO, Morrowind>Skyrim>Daggerfall>Oblivion>Arena.

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Irony
03/19/21 5:18:40 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Ok.

Then Oblivion gates existing completely destroys any argument that Oblivion is better than any game in the series.
Nah Oblivion Gates are better than go here and get my sandwich or dog from draugr

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Heavy_D_Forever
03/19/21 5:20:05 PM
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Irony posted...
Nah Oblivion Gates are better than go here and get my sandwich or dog from draugr
Oblivion gates are fine for the 1 or 2 times you do them, but after 10+ times that shit gets insanely tedious. Easily the worst part of the game by far.

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Smackems
03/19/21 5:21:03 PM
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doomcrusader posted...
I'd love a remastered Morrowind with voice acting and improved combat and graphics. I've tried to get into morrowind as is, but it really has aged poorly.
Even back in the day it had some "wtf is this horse shit" moments

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electricbugs2
03/19/21 5:21:28 PM
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Smackems posted...
Even back in the day it had some "wtf is this horse shit" moments
Such as?

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Smackems
03/19/21 5:22:48 PM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
Oblivion gates are fine for the 1 or 2 times you do them, but after 10+ times that shit gets insanely tedious. Easily the worst part of the game by far.
I feel this way about dragons in Skyrim too. I never do any main quest after I beat it because I don't wanna deal with them

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Smackems
03/19/21 5:24:07 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
Such as?
Attack rolls

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Reis
03/19/21 5:24:49 PM
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shit taste as always
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electricbugs2
03/19/21 5:25:11 PM
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Smackems posted...
Attack rolls
Nah, having 50 agility and 50 in a weapon skill makes this irrelevant.

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Big_Nabendu
03/19/21 5:25:36 PM
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U wrote it backwards cheese fuck
Its 3>4>5

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Smackems
03/19/21 5:26:45 PM
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Lol cheese fuck

Pretty good

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averagejoel
03/19/21 5:42:04 PM
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Skyrim's writing is extremely inconsistent. the Thieves Guild questline and the Forsworn questline are both among the worst writing in any game I've played

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BettyWhite
03/19/21 5:45:43 PM
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I went back to play Oblivion after years of Skyrim and didn't enjoy it at all.

Never played Morrowind.

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Irony
03/19/21 6:10:20 PM
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All the guild quests are fucking trash in Skyrim. Basically all of them are "you are the chosen one" 5 minutes in. I prefer working from the bottom.

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Lost_All_Senses
03/19/21 6:12:46 PM
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Sky>Wind>Oblivion>Morrow>Rim

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UnfairRepresent
03/19/21 7:45:27 PM
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Well obviously they are better

The technology improved as did game design

But Oblivion's faction quests are still better than Skyrim's

And anyone who claims unmodded Morrowind is the best, hasn't played it in over a decade. It's like New Vegas. IT has scores of online cheerleaders with rose tinted glasses the size of Ben Nevis but not a one of them has actually played the game since they were a kid.

If Morrowind came out today everyone in this topic would hate it

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electricbugs2
03/19/21 7:47:01 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Well obviously they are better

The technology improved as did game design

But Oblivion's faction quests are still better than Skyrim's

And anyone who claims unmodded Morrowind is the best, hasn't played it in over a decade. It's like New Vegas. IT has scores of online cheerleaders with rose tinted glasses the size of Ben Nevis but not a one of them has actually played the game since they were a kid.

If Morrowind came out today everyone in this topic would hate it
Morrowind is my second favourite game of all time. I played it just last year and it still holds up and the only mod I use is Tamriel rebuilt. Stop putting words in other peoples mouths.

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UnfairRepresent
03/19/21 8:23:47 PM
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I like how you're so angry at furious at me telling the truth because you're such a big superfan and even you can't play it without Mods.

Mods which are still getting updates today.

So thanks for proving my point.

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Smackems
03/19/21 8:28:20 PM
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Dammit @electricbugs2 let me tell YOU what I think about your OPINION on Morrowind

Hey man you like what you like it's all good

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electricbugs2
03/19/21 8:28:21 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I like how you're so angry at furious at me telling the truth because you're such a big superfan and even you can't play it without Mods.

Mods which are still getting updates today.

So thanks for proving my point.
Tamriel Rebuilt changes nothing for the mechanics, it just adds the mainland in a lore friendly way. Its also in long term beta so its nowhere near fully playable anyway.

I use no graphics mods or anything that changes the engine, its essentially the same game it was 19 years ago. And Im not angry at all, if I was angry I would have just shitposted.

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JimmyFraska
03/20/21 12:37:31 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Well obviously they are better

The technology improved as did game design

But Oblivion's faction quests are still better than Skyrim's

And anyone who claims unmodded Morrowind is the best, hasn't played it in over a decade. It's like New Vegas. IT has scores of online cheerleaders with rose tinted glasses the size of Ben Nevis but not a one of them has actually played the game since they were a kid.

If Morrowind came out today everyone in this topic would hate it
@UnfairRepresent
I didn't do an actual playthrough of Morrowind until this year. Played Oblivion and SKyrim first. Like, the last six months and I'm still playing. It is only after truly playing it for more than an hour and a half that I have realized Morrowind is definitely the best one.

And honestly I don't know what you mean. New Vegas and Morrowind are the best ones among these games because their writing and choices/roleplaying opportunities are stronger. Bethesda's games from Oblivion onwards are truly amazing open worlds. But as far as RPG stories, they're lackluster, and we all know it. And that's okay, most games are. But among the top tier AAA RPGs, these games don't make it up there based on their writing.

I mean, it sounds like you are making your judgements purely on graphics and mechanics. And those are hugely important. But the most important thing in an RPG is its writing, and how much agency it gives the players. That's why we love MW and NV. And I don't dislike the other games, but they don't provide that same agency.

UnfairRepresent posted...
I like how you're so angry at furious at me telling the truth because you're such a big superfan and even you can't play it without Mods.

Mods which are still getting updates today.

So thanks for proving my point.
Lmao, I play with no mods and have been doing so for months. But even then, the Tamriel Rebuilt mod they mentioned is basically just an expansion pack. It is mechanically and even graphically exactly the same (has new art for the expansion areas, but its fidelity and style is the same). But it doesn't matter, because the writing and roleplaying opportunities in Morrowind are amazing.
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