Board 8 > Final Fantasy Record Keeper Topic 53: lolbio... is actually good now?!

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Ticket 1 dupe Vanille LMR
Ticket 2 Desch enlightning LMR

Well that's a dud to end on Tickets mostly sucked outside of that Tifa dyad.
Used the realm ticket on FF12... Vaan sync! That should be nice for FF12 Nexus in a few months.


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Fest ticket: Jecht awakening, Naja AOSB

Somehow I had an extra ticket: Trey awakening, Tifa USB, Garnet LM

Realm ticket: dupe Josef awakening, dupe Josef LM

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Last reward was two tickets apparently

I got junk

Tickets were overall pretty good though. Got two Awakenings I really wanted (Kefka and Thief2), a Zidane Dyad and Eiko Awakening that makes my FFIX possibly usable, Reno's Awakening which might be useful someday, and Ysayle's Ice Imperil LMR. Also Tidus Dyad rank up (to 5)

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what Mog g+ is good? I have both his awakenings now and I forget which one is neat for him

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Probably the second one (heal and party quickcast) is more useful than the first one (protectga, shellga, and 30% stoneskin).

Now that fest and BiOdin are over the next things to look forward to are the fire labyrinth and the anima lens refresh. Since I missed on new Locke/Edge cap breaks for fest I'm not totally sure who should be on my fire team. I have Sync+Awakening and no other cap breaks for Locke, Edge, Noctis, and Delita. I'm leaning towards the last two, but Locke has some points in his favor: hero equipment, his limit guardian, some useful G+ and USBs that imperil. His biggest downside is his abilities do crappy damage. Noctis and Delita both have nice self-critfixing, and Noctis has an ATB sync.

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Both of Mog's glint+'s are great, the stoneskin from the first one is a lifesaver in some fights like Enkidu.

If you honed Edge awakening I'd go with him over Noctis, if not use Noctis.

Man I really messed up not getting Baltheir awakening from the last dream select for my physical team. I got Jack sync/awakening, Ardyn sync/awakening/LBO/party instantcast USB so I think that's good enough, Ardyn is kinda weak now but he has an overstrike sync command 2 at least. I hope there's a dream select before the next Labyrinth opens.

Magic fire I should be good with Braska and Ace, even if I lack a second cap break for Rubicante, Braska should make up the damage.

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I did not hone Edge's awakening yet, and I think he's better for magic than physical. He might be on my magic team, he's competing with Terra for the second spot behind Papalymo. I guess I could maybe hone Edge and use him for both fights...

For chaining I currently have csb+awakening for Gilgamesh and Balthier. I'm also planning a pull on the XII banner so hopefully I'll get something else for Balthier (although I'd rather use Greg, there are no chances to get his sync any time soon).

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Overall, fest tickets got me two new Syncs, three new AASBs, a half dozen other new relics (only two of which I am likely to use, but hey, free stuff) and a pile of crystals. Glad to have 'em!

Tempted to draw once on Banner 5, but I have multiple dupes, and I reckon it's better waiting for the next tier of power creep (Dyad Awakenings or some such.)
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Used my realm ticket on FF4:

2/11 - P Cecil USB4, Ursula AASB

New AASB is always good, but I don't think she would crack my physical earth team (Noctis SASB2/AASB, Gladio AASB/chain, Bartz SASB2/AASB1, Tyro/Elarra)

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Back down to 0 mythril after pulling on each bio banner once

B1: 1/11, Kefka dyad
B2: 1/11, Thancred G+ (dupe)

Literally my only possible dupe

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I just tried Kalvinaka Striker for the first time, and I was unpleasantly surprised to learn that you have to use one of your three Labyrinth Parties. I had figured it'd let you use your "normal" team setups, like the handful of "use your real party here" Record Dungeons. No wonder people are cheesing Labyrinths with fatigue-proof White Magic teams, when you have to scrap a proper three-party rotation in order to try any of the superbosses!

I guess you can also "save" party setups by recording the individual members as Hero Outfits, the system they've built isn't unredeemable, but it is annoying.

Admittedly, I wasn't particularly interested in fighting the Labyrinth Nexus bosses (Treasure Map mission rewards? Gosh, I only have 1000+ of those) so I'm not terribly upset by another excuse to put them off.
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MalcolmMasher posted...

I guess you can also "save" party setups by recording the individual members as Hero Outfits, the system they've built isn't unredeemable, but it is annoying.

You can also just save them as regular teams. I don't really get the point of the hero outfits, or at least not as people use them for labyrinth. I should probably use them more especially for characters who have hero equipment to make party building faster.

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Yeah I wish you could just use the elemental teams from your normal saved parties instead of messing with your Labyrinth trio, it sucks putting them back together too, even with hero outfits because one piece of equipment always seems to slip my mind, but I don't even bother with the other two parties anymore and save them for Nexus bosses in case I'm saving record markers for the next set of hero artifacts.

Nexus bosses are going to give record boards in the future so thankfully that's more of an incentive to beat them. And they give out magicite shards with empower/dampen element level 18 starting next season. Also after core Bahamut comes out they're the only bosses able to stand up to current tech.

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Used my 15 day ticket on holy

3/11: Arc sync!!, Vayne OSB, Meliadoul BSB

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Labyrinth group N is fire again and has a pretty good group of characters. Terra, Gilgamesh, Auron, Papalymo, Balthier, Jack, Zell, Delita, and Refia. Still nothing for my boy Vivi though.

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Oh nice, three of those are on my teams (Terra, Papa, Delita) and Gilgamesh is my favorite FF character

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Four stockpiled scrolls and 28000 level 1 lenses later I am now the proud owner of a honed Mog AASB2...!

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Used my ticket from the new BoT missions on ice

1/11: Delita G+

I guess I use Delita at least...

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New books are up, you get a free random physical and magic awakening, I got Josef and a dupe Meia awakening...

And you get two tickets as well. Used both on 12

First one got me Vaan LBO!

Second one got Basch chase LMR. New but it's Basch, bleh.

The game doesn't want to give me Ashe or Baltheir relics anymore apparently.

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Phy awakening: dupe Gilgamesh
Mag awakening: dupe Shantotto
Ticket 1: 1/11 - Terra Limit Break
Ticket 2: 3/11 - dupe Locke USB, dupe Strago AOSB, new Kefka limit glint

So, one kinda good relic in there for Terra. Gives her a slight advantage for being on the fire magic team (not a big one since I already have a fire magic limit overstrike for Vincent who's my chainer)

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Physical AASB: Leon dupe
Magical AASB: Arc dupe
Ticket 1 (on IV): Cid Glint+
Ticket 2 (on IV): Rosa USB dupe, Ursula AASB dupe

Wow. 4/5 dupes, and the only new relic is a Glint+ for a character I will never use.

Woah, 250 +lenses from the gift dungeon today

Last fests didnt give any, did it?

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Tried magic dark-weak WOdin once and got him down to a little over 30%; everyone except Elarra and Golbez died to sap around 40% or something.

One other issue I had is that it took Mog quite a while to die after getting anti-healed so I had to delay Vayne's rez too. Not sure how to deal with that.

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This is obviously a case if YMMV, but against Odins that try to kill slots 2 and 4 through anti-heal, I've found that it's actually quite surviveable with the right healer.

If you have someone who gets Stoneskin or HP stock on their AASB you can possibly avoid anyone dying.

Don't be lax about overwriting Argent Odin's Sap. When he reaches 30% he'll immediately interrupt everything to nuke your party for 99% of their current health and auto-Stun, at which point you get to watch everyone eat a lethal Sap tick. There are ways to get around this, but curing Sap before then is by far the simplest, and most Odins only inflict it 1-2 times per fight (as part of Argent Zantetsuken.)

If you can't spare an Elarra USB, then try to find a slot for Angel Song (5* Bard), Memento of Prayer (3* White), or even Kirin (2* Summon.)

One other issue I had is that it took Mog quite a while to die after getting anti-healed so I had to delay Vayne's rez too. Not sure how to deal with that.

The simple way is to kill him yourself. High-end physical abilities usually can't target anyone on your team, but single-target spells should work.
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Argh so close. One dualcast from Bartz in his last turn would have done it. What are your two multicast skills even useful for!



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Lopen posted...

Argh so close. One dualcast from Bartz in his last turn would have done it. What are your two multicast skills even useful for!

I thought the top of the image was a spoiler lol

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Okay there we go. Finally killed one. Now I need to figure out how the heck these things work. It looks like I get the lord seals by killing odins. I guess it makes sense to kill him 3 more times for a level 99 Odin out of the gate, but then the others I can kill just once?

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Well you also need another 4 for the physical/magical version of Wodin (and maybe another 4 for a third wodin in Labyrinth if you want it) The corresponding Wodin will give you seal to inherit which is basically an extra empower/dampen so you'll need to beat 17 for the element seals (bio Wodin gives two magicite.)

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Congrats! And yeah, initially you need to beat 1 magic, 1 physical, plus 6 of either version to break the level cap on the first two. Then you just need to beat each element twice (phy and mag) and inherit those seals onto your level 99 copies. Also if you can't beat both versions of an element you can do the same version twice and inherit those (there's no requirement for physical/magic to match the one you're inheriting too) - although you'll want to beat both versions eventually for the other rewards.

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Hmm unfortunately I don't have any stoneskin or hp stock based healers (well, I have Deuce but missing her AA/sync) so I dunno if keeping them alive is in the cards. I guess taking out Mog myself is an interesting possibility!

Didn't realize the FFIV homework missions were ending in less than a week though so I should probably try to take down that DB first. Assuming I'd like to avoid buying his HA if possible, is it better to have Pecil go PHY or WHM? I assume Edge wants to go NIN.

Edit: tried him once and got him to exactly 30% before timing out. For some reason he seemed tanky as hell; not sure what I was doing wrong.

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Zeromus gets really tanky in phase 3, especially in savage mode 2/3. One way of dealing with that is having Edge use smoldering flames under sync/awakening for a guaranteed rage break.

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Hmm, I could do that; is it worth giving up the self-buff from SiT?

I did notice another few dumb things; I had Pecil in the back row despite going phys (whoops) and had no realm artifacts for Edge/Pecil. Does the realm artifact matter for Edge given that (as I understand it) the NIN softcap is super low?

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Well like you said the NIN softcap is low so you don't need Stich in Time's buff.

Pecil will need an artifact, I'd still go mind with the realm bow and use holyja, but that depends if you have his dualcast lmr.

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I actually do have that LMR so I guess could switch

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You've been using Mog AASB2 to counter Ultimate/Dreambreaker Full Break, right? 'Cause if not, -70% to Atk/Def/Mag/Res would make P3 seem absurdly tanky. <_< >_>

(And the +30% Atk/Def/Mag/Res from Mog AASB2 is another reason why Edge shouldn't need Stitch in Time here.)

Edit: tried him once and got him to exactly 30% before timing out. For some reason he seemed tanky as hell; not sure what I was doing wrong.

Have you been invoking the Historia Crystal ASAP? If so, consider trying to save one of the charges for Phase 3, to help deal with his increased Savage Mode damage reduction.
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Yeah, I've been using Mog AA2 at the beginning of P2 and P3 (after using his USB1 in P1). I tried a few more times and got him down to 22%.

I might be mistiming my BDLs and/or chains? I'm using Golbez's sync and Edge's USB1 as soon as they comes up to handle P1, using Pecil's awakening shortly before P2 so he avoids the osmose (similarly I need to use Rosa's AA before osmose), and then using Golbez's AA some time in P2. I've been using a chain at the beginning of P1, again when my BDLs are about to get rolling, and then refreshing when it runs out (I definitely feel some chain is being wasted).

The other thing is that my HC is only level 80; I can upgrade if needed, but I'm definitely constrained on tails since I only started playing in like April or whatever.

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Got em



Apparently I didnt realize that one of his moves near the beginning of P2 dispelled... recasting haste there sped me up enough to get the win (though with four BDLs + honed Mog2 against what I understand is one of the easiest DBs 41.5 seconds still seems kinda slow)

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Congrats!
A win's a win. You shouldn't worry too much about time rewards for now. The sub-30 will come eventually.

Thanks!

Yeah I'm not worried about the rewards themselves; I'm mostly just wondering if there's some easy to address mistake I'm making that might carry over across other fights.

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Finished Book of Trials XVI and got the ticket from XVII:

Phys AASB draw: Seifer AASB1

Used the ticket on ice; 2/11: Lulu AOSB, Lulu LMR2

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Gambled on pulling on ice B2 because my ice magic is trash (and also I really want Serah's AASB since I have her water sync)

2/11: Lulu SASB!, Ysayle AASB!

Not Serah stuff, but sweet!

(It also just occurred to me that this means I actually have four non-water FFX BDLs between Seymour, Braska, and Lulu should I ever muster up the courage to try Sin...)

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In case anyone hasn't seen it, this topic is the first clear explanation of dyad awakenings I've seen: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/114492-final-fantasy-record-keeper/79705555

The most interesting part to me is that they can't combo with awakened modes that have the same name but they can combo with awakened modes that have different names. So for example Bartz's dyad awakening with "Dual Awoken Spellblade Mode" can't combo with all his awoken spellblade awakenings, but it can combo with his awoken zephyr awakening.

Out of the winter fest dyads, the ones that can combo are Garnet, Bartz, Kain, and Yuffie. Garnet is the only one who can tack a dualcast on to her DAASB (although her DAASB by itself is only dualcast while most are triple cast)

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Dual Awakenings look nice but most of them are in elemental Nexus bosses I've already beaten or probably will have to tools to beat before they come out. I think I'd rather focus on wrapping up the unbeaten Bahamuts before I try to chase dual awakenings.

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That's a good point, I'm way farther behind on Bahamuts than I am on elemental Labyrinth. Next fest doesn't have much help for me though. I haven't beaten V yet but I really don't need more Bartz stuff, I need someone else in the realm to carry some weight. The first banner with Fang + Y'shtola's healing sync probably helps me the most with 2 Bahamuts. But the banner I like the most is 5 mostly because of favoritism.

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Augh so close... got magic dark-weak WOdin down to 3.3%.

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Lol buo

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Phew



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1/11 dupe Basch glint.

Only dupe on the banner and obviously I got it. My luck has been terrible recently.

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Are any of the free 5* abilities from the fest event particularly situationally useful other than the bard songs and smoldering fire?

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