Board 8 > If you had to choose a fight to regularly participate in.....

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HaRRicH
07/17/22 7:45:04 PM
#1:


If you had to accept one of these scenarios, which do you choose?


Saw a video posing the question:

https://youtube.com/shorts/2ZBKgDzKVAA?feature=share

(please love chickens and orangutans in all other scenarios)

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NFUN
07/17/22 7:46:43 PM
#2:


yeah with a sword i could take an orangutan easy

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BlueCrystalTear
07/17/22 7:48:15 PM
#3:


This isn't even a contest. One would be several times a week. The other would be once a year, with a weapon I could train myself in. And there's no rule that, if the orangutan takes your sword, you can't flee.

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MZero
07/17/22 7:57:55 PM
#4:


Do I have the sword or does the orangutan

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StealThisSheen
07/17/22 8:03:04 PM
#5:


Orangutans are like, seven times as strong as a human. Everybody choosing fight an orangutan would either be dead in a year, or, if extremely lucky, in jail until the next fight since they killed an endangered species.

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Obellisk
07/17/22 8:05:17 PM
#6:


MZero posted...
Do I have the sword or does the orangutan

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KCF0107
07/17/22 8:07:11 PM
#7:


I could easily just open a car door and smack or kick a chicken out of it, not that I would want to be doing that constantly. I don't have the heart or stomach to strike, or rather attempt to strike, an orangutan with a sword. That option is even less enticing if it is the orangutan with the sword.

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mnkboy907
07/17/22 8:09:53 PM
#8:


Is it to the death? Can I just wave the sword around and it counts as a win if the orangutan runs away?

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tcaz2
07/17/22 8:12:35 PM
#9:


Yeah people are REALLY underestimating how much most primates would completely destroy a human in a fight.

It really doesn't matter which of you has a sword. You're dead if you fight the Orangutan. Maybe under literally the best case scenario you last a year or two (you get the sword, you get lucky, able to train specifically to fight Orangutans with a sword for the entirety of the next year), but the power gap is way too vast to consistently overcome.
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HaRRicH
07/17/22 8:51:20 PM
#10:


Orangutans are being underestimated, yes -- definitely.

Also though, I would rather risk that likelihood of death annually than fight a chicken every time I'm in a car. That's twice a grocery trip -- three if you're refilling the tank. Your dates are horrific, can't drop your kids off at school without scaring the kids, and you can't even Uber your way out of it. You probably can't clean your car because of the chicken respawns either.

We've all played Zelda -- even if you always survive against the chickens, you don't win. Give me the orangutan, give me liberty, and give me death that will certainly come within ten years and probably more like two because I do not want to fight chickens all my life.

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StealThisSheen
07/17/22 8:57:10 PM
#11:


HaRRicH posted...
Give me the orangutan, give me liberty

Well you won't have this because they're endangered so fighting/killing them is a felony.


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StealThisSheen
07/17/22 9:00:38 PM
#12:


Also, I'm gonna loophole this shit and point out that it specifically says "car," not truck, van, motorcycle, or any other form of transportation.

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XIII_rocks
07/17/22 9:32:28 PM
#13:


The Orangutan

I think I would rather die than be that consistently inconvenienced

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NFUN
07/17/22 9:32:51 PM
#14:


XIII_rocks posted...
The Orangutan

I think I would rather die than be that consistently inconvenienced
oh you are not gonna like getting old

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XIII_rocks
07/17/22 9:33:29 PM
#15:


I'm already hating it, pal

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Paratroopa1
07/17/22 9:35:22 PM
#16:


I can take chickens, I spent a couple of weeks tending a chicken coop, just bring good gloves
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XIII_rocks
07/17/22 9:41:35 PM
#17:


Also yeah two important questions itt

1) Do said animals just magically appear
2) How do I win the fight

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Kenri
07/17/22 9:44:52 PM
#18:


Physically, I could beat a chicken. But emotionally? Imagine the toll.

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MalcolmMasher
07/17/22 9:46:59 PM
#19:


I would rather rearrange my life to minimize automobile usage, and then deal with the remaining chicken encounters, than get killed by an orangutan.

1) Do said animals just magically appear

Also, do they -disappear-? Because if the chickens leave actual corpses, that's gross and disgusting, but "learn how to prepare and cook dead chickens" sounds much more appealing than "be disassembled by more muscular primates."

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ChichiriMuyo
07/17/22 10:28:05 PM
#20:


Okay, so I picked Orangutan because in my mind I was thinking of Suzane from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, not some "do you even lift, bro?" monster that could pick me up. Bob at one point picks her up and gives her a piggyback ride. Since no one said what kind of orangutan, I'm sticking with a little one like her... and yes I will kick her butt at a sword fight. She doesn't even know how to use one properly.

On top of that, why do so many of you assume this is a fight to the death? That wasn't part of the question. No one said you have to kill the chickens or the apes, you blood-thirsty psychopaths :p Furthermore, no one is saying that the orangutan is interested in killing you (the chickens, however...). They're actually pretty empathic creatures who, like most humans, would probably prefer to not kill another creature if it's not necessary.

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Jakyl25
07/17/22 10:32:37 PM
#21:


Picked chicken, but on second thought you should pick the orangutan and bring a gun

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Dancedreamer
07/17/22 10:33:21 PM
#22:


Chicken

Public Transportation will do just fine.

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redrocket
07/17/22 10:53:53 PM
#23:


HaRRicH posted...
Orangutans are being underestimated, yes -- definitely.

I would turn this around and say that swords are being underestimated, especially if you actually bother to train with it.


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StealThisSheen
07/17/22 11:06:29 PM
#24:


By the time an orangutan is close enough for you to hit it with a sword, if you don't kill it with your first swing you're probably fucked.

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Uglyface2
07/17/22 11:12:34 PM
#25:


The chicken. Either one is awful, but at least other people would laugh at my chicken misfortune.
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redrocket
07/17/22 11:14:07 PM
#26:


StealThisSheen posted...
By the time an orangutan is close enough for you to hit it with a sword, if you don't kill it with your first swing you're probably fucked.

This is horse poop. Its an animal. Its reaction to getting wounded, mortally or not, it to retreat. The only way I buy otherwise is if its specifically been trained (ie abused) by humans to be a pit fighter, and/or its high as fuck on something like PCP.

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TomNook
07/17/22 11:14:28 PM
#27:


Chicken.

Free food for life!

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KCF0107
07/17/22 11:15:40 PM
#28:


redrocket posted...
Its reaction to getting wounded, mortally or not, it to retreat.

You are missing one half of the fight or flight response. You cannot say with certainty that it would choose flight.

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tazzyboyishere
07/17/22 11:19:04 PM
#29:


Picked orangutan because option 1 would be a life not worth living

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banananor
07/17/22 11:24:24 PM
#30:


I think the answer is orangutan and to bring a gun

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redrocket
07/17/22 11:34:18 PM
#31:


Like, if the assumption is that the orangutan is berserk and starts the fight immediately charging you with specific intent to kill, sure, fair. But thats not remotely natural, and requires a pretty contrived scenario to get there.

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tazzyboyishere
07/17/22 11:36:04 PM
#32:


redrocket posted...
requires a pretty contrived scenario to get there.
An interesting argument given the question at hand

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redrocket
07/17/22 11:41:03 PM
#33:


tazzyboyishere posted...
An interesting argument given the question at hand

The nature of the fight is as vague as can be. It takes a lot of assumptions beyond what weve been given to just say, lol, of course the orangutan wins.

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AriaOfBolo
07/18/22 12:19:23 AM
#34:


redrocket posted...
But thats not remotely natural, and requires a pretty contrived scenario to get there.

well we can't have contrived scenarios in this topic now can we

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HaRRicH
07/18/22 12:40:25 AM
#35:


In my mind, this isn't asking which animal you prefer to slaughter. By nature of fighting, it is understood there will be combat and self-defense for one's safety from both sides.

The orangutan probably isn't posing for cool NFTs while you drag your sword praying for Big Sephiroth Energy.

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HaRRicH
07/18/22 12:45:06 AM
#36:


StealThisSheen posted...
Well you won't have this because they're endangered so fighting/killing them is a felony.

Discovery with show the orangutan signed the contract.

Hopefully anyway. Until then, I'll just be glad I'm behind jail-bars and not zoo-bars with the orangutan family seeking vengeance.

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Murphiroth
07/18/22 12:53:20 AM
#37:


People are definitely underestimating just how strong an orangutan is and how much advantage they're gonna have in terms of reach, even if you have a sword.

Also swords are pretty heavy and not exactly easy to use.

Chickens can still fuck you up though and dealing with that everyday would be awful. But if I avoid cars I'm safe, and there's decent public transport where I live. Think I'd take the chicken deal.
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Murphiroth
07/18/22 12:54:08 AM
#38:


Another one I like: would you rather fight 1 horse sized duck or 50 duck sized horses?
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HaRRicH
07/18/22 1:04:42 AM
#39:


Murphiroth posted...
Another one I like: would you rather fight 1 horse sized duck or 50 duck sized horses?

I messed with a duck-sized duck once as a kid -- I was trying to pick up one of its ducklings really -- and mama duck still has the bluff on me today.

But also I've seen YouTube videos so I'm scared of horse-sized horses. Gah.

Gimme the 50 small ones.


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StealThisSheen
07/18/22 1:05:15 AM
#40:


redrocket posted...
Its an animal. Its reaction to getting wounded, mortally or not, it to retreat.

Uh you do know this isn't true for a lot of animals right

I feel like in your mind you're going to be like "check out my 18 sword style anime ultimate attack!" and the orangutan is gonna go "whoa sick moves bro i surrender" and/or join you in your adventure.

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kevwaffles
07/18/22 1:07:14 AM
#41:


Honestly you could probably make a comfortable living off of infinite chickens. It doesn't even say you necessarily have to kill them so if you can break the will of some of the chickens that's eggs as well.

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redrocket
07/18/22 1:18:47 AM
#42:


HaRRicH posted...
In my mind, this isn't asking which animal you prefer to slaughter. By nature of fighting, it is understood there will be combat and self-defense for one's safety from both sides.

The orangutan probably isn't posing for cool NFTs while you drag your sword praying for Big Sephiroth Energy.

I mean, theres a big difference between the orangutan is actively defending itself and it charges you like a horror movie monster.

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azuarc
07/18/22 1:44:33 AM
#43:


MZero posted...
Do I have the sword or does the orangutan


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ChichiriMuyo
07/18/22 1:46:37 AM
#44:


I still don't get why this is scary

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tazzyboyishere
07/18/22 9:02:04 AM
#45:


It skipped his life and just killed his career instead.

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Maniac64
07/18/22 9:20:37 AM
#46:


redrocket posted...
Like, if the assumption is that the orangutan is berserk and starts the fight immediately charging you with specific intent to kill, sure, fair. But thats not remotely natural, and requires a pretty contrived scenario to get there.
Unlike a chicken being in every car you try and get into. That's not contrived at all.

Also, I read it as the orangutan having the sword and hell no to that.

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Lopen
07/18/22 9:22:24 AM
#47:


Yeah sorry put me on redrocket's team here. They're stronger than humans, monstrous bite, but they're pretty small. I think a reasonably fit person trained in swordplay would take one fairly easily. You have reach advantage, they aren't super fast or very heavy.

You don't need to be stronger than one, just strong enough to hold its weight off as its strength is sapped from a sword wound. Keep in mind the 7x stronger than a human is an average human. You can easily reduce that to closer to 2-3x with a year of strength training.

Now that being said in your 60s, 70s at a stretch you will lose no doubt. So you're shaving off your later part of your life at minimum. And you will have to train a ton to win. So is it worth it?

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Zylothewolf
07/18/22 1:21:41 PM
#48:


Are Orangutangs even smart enough to understand what a fight is? Wouldnt any human be able to kill it before it realizes that its in danger?

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banananor
07/18/22 1:48:20 PM
#49:


tbh i'd choose the chickens, and organize a lifestyle where i didn't need cars (close to excellent public transit, or some kind of walking/biking community), and also- when i had to- drive the smallest vehicle that didn't qualify as a car

school bus, short bus, RV, big truck, whatever

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Maniac64
07/18/22 2:44:27 PM
#50:


Zylothewolf posted...
Are Orangutangs even smart enough to understand what a fight is? Wouldnt any human be able to kill it before it realizes that its in danger?
Primates tend to fight each other a lot.

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