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ChichiriMuyo
09/08/22 10:04:01 AM
#102:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Jennamarbles,
Wow... I'm not going to address your whole post... I'm just going to publicly shame you for this. Jenna fucking Marbles? You want to shit on someone else and you think Jenna Marbles is top youtube personality these days? Dear Patrick Star (Ulti) you live under a rock (yes, an actual rock as far as I can tell), try not living under a rock (and also try not to call others out when you're less in touch than they are).

Jenna Marbles, lololol.

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HanOfTheNekos
09/08/22 10:33:16 AM
#103:


Mr_Lasastryke posted...
yeah, i wonder if more people overrate the tv shows because they're watching them through MCU glasses. i don't think any of the shows i've seen were great. wandavision was good but even that had a lot of flaws.

but i haven't seen hawkeye yet and a lot of people tell me it's great, so...

Hawkeye will, at the very least, feel like a cleanly written and delivered story. It watches like a comic book, and it has its moments of generating hype, and it's overall just a good standalone miniseries.

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HanOfTheNekos
09/08/22 10:36:06 AM
#104:


ChichiriMuyo posted...
Wow... I'm not going to address your whole post... I'm just going to publicly shame you for this. Jenna fucking Marbles? You want to shit on someone else and you think Jenna Marbles is top youtube personality these days? Dear Patrick Star (Ulti) you live under a rock (yes, an actual rock as far as I can tell), try not living under a rock (and also try not to call others out when you're less in touch than they are).

Jenna Marbles, lololol.
this isn't the dunk you think it is

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IfGodCouldDie
09/08/22 10:41:32 AM
#105:


ChichiriMuyo posted...
Wow... I'm not going to address your whole post... I'm just going to publicly shame you for this. Jenna fucking Marbles? You want to shit on someone else and you think Jenna Marbles is top youtube personality these days? Dear Patrick Star (Ulti) you live under a rock (yes, an actual rock as far as I can tell), try not living under a rock (and also try not to call others out when you're less in touch than they are).

Jenna Marbles, lololol.
I think you miss the point of his post. His point is that no one here really watches youtubers so you pointing out that she isn't relevant proves his point.

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Mr_Lasastryke
09/08/22 10:44:28 AM
#106:


his point isn't that no one here watches youtubers, it's that youtubers aren't celebrities, aside from the small number he listed.

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scarletspeed7
09/08/22 11:57:00 AM
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The most recognizable Youtuber remains Justin Bieber. For shame, people!

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Leonhart4
09/08/22 12:01:44 PM
#109:


Never heard of Jennamarbles before this topic

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swordz9
09/08/22 12:03:50 PM
#110:


Pewdiepie and Mr Beast are the only YouTuber names in this topic I recognize and Ive watched neither
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mnk
09/08/22 1:19:17 PM
#111:


Thor was good enough. I can totally understand people's problems with tonal whiplash, though.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/08/22 1:26:48 PM
#112:


About 35mins left in the movie and so far the only complaint I agree with is Gorr not getting enough screen time.

other than that I consider it on par with Ragnorok.

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Lopen
09/08/22 1:39:56 PM
#113:


I think any youtube personality that exists only on youtube isn't mainstream to a level where you'd consider them a celebrity. If they breach that you've probably seen them on late night talk shows and the like.

That includes all the schmucks lms mentions, Jenna Marble, and like 99% of popular youtube acts for that matter. The only ones I'd call mainstream are like pewdiepie and maybe the Good Mythical Morning guys.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/08/22 2:27:33 PM
#114:


I'll be honest. I actually really enjoyed that Gorr was able to see that he didn't really want vengeance, he just wanted life and love for his daughter. I will admit that it would have been much more powerful had he gotten more screen time and had his character more fleshed out, but I enjoyed it all the same.

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Johnbobb
09/08/22 2:31:59 PM
#115:


Gorr was great. Zeus was great. Thor strolling into the middle of the opening war scene in full hippie getup was great.

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mnk
09/08/22 2:36:12 PM
#116:


I'll admit that based on trailers, I was really expecting a huge "Gorr goes wild on Omnipotent City" scene. Like you have a god butcher, and you have a city of gods... so you'd just kinda think... that would happen.

I suppose Thor and Friends being the god butchers of Omnipotent City is a decent enough alternative.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/08/22 2:40:00 PM
#117:


I did really like Zeus and I felt his arrogance or heartlessness or whatever you want to call it really helped see why Gorr would find his mission justifiable.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/08/22 2:40:26 PM
#118:


mnk posted...
I'll admit that based on trailers, I was really expecting a huge "Gorr goes wild on Omnipotent City" scene. Like you have a god butcher, and you have a city of gods... so you'd just kinda think... that would happen.

I suppose Thor and Friends being the god butchers of Omnipotent City is a decent enough alternative.
I was expecting that to be their first encounter to be honest.

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mnk
09/08/22 2:47:59 PM
#119:


This movie also helps give context to the Egyptian pantheon being useless. They were probably too busy preparing for the next orgy to care about whatever Harrow was doing.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/08/22 2:57:27 PM
#120:


mnk posted...
This movie also helps give context to the Egyptian pantheon being useless. They were probably too busy preparing for the next orgy to care about whatever Harrow was doing.
This too was something I picked up in too.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/08/22 3:13:42 PM
#122:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I dont know if Justin Bieber even counts, but fair point.
I can get behind him being a celebrity youtuber that has grown way beyond that. Just like Justin Timberlake has grown beyond being a mousekateer or boy band singer.

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LinkMarioSamus
09/08/22 3:37:51 PM
#123:


Saw Thor: Love & Thunder. Remember finding Ragnarok decent, with it ultimately having a well-executed enough serious plot to balance out the repeated attempts at comedy. While I don't think this movie is much worse than Ragnarok, I do think it just about fell on the wrong side of that - I did find a lot of laughs in the movie but there were about twice as many attempted laughs that fell flat for me. At least the movie never ran any one particular joke particularly into the ground (the screaming goats if anything got funnier as the movie progressed), but it still tended to overdo them. The cast are on top form here: Hemsworth and Thompson must be amazing actors to keep up this goofy English accent! This movie also looks gorgeous, with the shadow realm scenes being particular standouts. Reminded me a fair bit of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. At first, I was a little off put by Thor constantly being the butt of jokes for acting like a dumb muscle, until I remembered he's probably not completely right in the head this time. Also, to be fair, the very first Thor movie didn't have him come off much different even if that was mostly fish-out-of-water comedy. Just another example of some Phase 4 naysayers not even knowing the franchise properly.

Despite not finding this movie anywhere near as bad as a lot of people do, I don't have a hard time understanding why this film seems so polarizing. Not only is comedy very subjective, but this movie also aims very much to be a feelgood kind of romp which is naturally not going to work with everyone. I was completely on board with what this movie was trying to do, and I simply wish it didn't try to turn everything into a joke 90% of the time. Just include those deleted scenes where Bale interacts with Dinklage and Goldblum, and this might be at least a decent movie if not a great one like its direct predecessor. Instead, it settled for whatever the next rung just below decent is for me.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/08/22 3:42:52 PM
#124:


That's a good post LMS. It inspires actual conversation and seems like an honest opinion on the film.

I do agree with your assessment for the most part, except the attempted comedy didnt feel as bad for me as most feel.

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CassandraCain
09/08/22 4:59:17 PM
#125:


Thor 4 is good. Definitely some bad eye roll parts, but overall it had good action and emotional moments. Gave me some good laughs too. My only complaint was the mistreatment of Sif, although I'm not surprised by it.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/08/22 5:08:14 PM
#126:


CassandraCain posted...
edit: and wow that was the most beautiful post-credit scene they've ever added! Usually these are a useless waste of time
Valhalla?

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GuessMyUserName
09/08/22 5:10:42 PM
#127:


CassandraCain posted...
Usually these are a useless waste of time
dammit pizza poppa

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Leonhart4
09/08/22 5:14:48 PM
#128:


Roy Kent as Hercules can't wait

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CassandraCain
09/08/22 5:17:10 PM
#129:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Valhalla?

Yup. Wasn't expecting something uplifting like that. At least I found it left me feeling a bit happy for some reason

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IfGodCouldDie
09/08/22 5:32:54 PM
#131:


CassandraCain posted...
Yup. Wasn't expecting something uplifting like that. At least I found it left me feeling a bit happy for some reason
I knew about the scene because I punish myself by reading spoilers and any and all rumors leading up to release but I did really enjoy it as well.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/08/22 5:48:50 PM
#132:


Also I'm seeing rumors that Gorr's daughter might end up being Singularity, which would be cool.

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Johnbobb
09/08/22 10:13:44 PM
#133:


Leonhart4 posted...
Roy Kent as Hercules can't wait
he's here, he's there, he's every fucking where

it's even better knowing Dani Rojas was in Spider-Man: NWH

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mnk
09/08/22 10:42:00 PM
#134:


I'm actually surprised I managed to remain unspoiled on Hercules.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/09/22 1:09:52 AM
#135:


I love that the phrase "browned out" was used in this show.

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Johnbobb
09/09/22 10:21:05 AM
#136:


I wasn't like huge on this episode? Like everything with Wong, Donnie, Madisynn, etc was great but the dating aspect just kinda screamed cliches. Like oh no, a wealthy, Hollywood-good-looks woman can't find matches in New York??? like running into scumbags on dating apps is one thing but most of the dating app scenes just felt like they were written by someone who only vaguely knows what a dating app is

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IfGodCouldDie
09/09/22 10:34:14 AM
#137:


As someone that has never used a dating app, from the complaints I've heard it didn't make sense. Don't most guys swipe right on everything and it is women who are more selective? Or is that just a narrative that gets pushed?

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Mr_Lasastryke
09/09/22 10:50:59 AM
#138:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
As someone that has never used a dating app, from the complaints I've heard it didn't make sense. Don't most guys swipe right on everything and it is women who are more selective? Or is that just a narrative that gets pushed?

as someone who's used dating apps for years, there's definitely some truth to this. i don't know if most guys swipe right on everything (i don't) but i'd say this is more common among guys than women.

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XIII_Rocks
09/09/22 1:32:40 PM
#139:


Watched Thor 4 again

Better than the first time anyway

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Murphiroth
09/09/22 3:25:27 PM
#140:


Johnbobb posted...
I wasn't like huge on this episode? Like everything with Wong, Donnie, Madisynn, etc was great but the dating aspect just kinda screamed cliches. Like oh no, a wealthy, Hollywood-good-looks woman can't find matches in New York??? like running into scumbags on dating apps is one thing but most of the dating app scenes just felt like they were written by someone who only vaguely knows what a dating app is

They were definitely leaning into a lot of dating cliches but the show takes place in LA, not New York, and there's a level of superficiality there that they were playing up.
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XIII_Rocks
09/09/22 3:45:33 PM
#141:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I love that the phrase "browned out" was used in this show.

Me too! Really good

Episode was really funny. Tatiana is a fucking star, absolutely impeccable timing. I'm kind of glad I didn't know her at all before this because it's made everything she does feel like this really great surprise.

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Johnbobb
09/09/22 4:03:41 PM
#142:


Murphiroth posted...
They were definitely leaning into a lot of dating cliches but the show takes place in LA, not New York, and there's a level of superficiality there that they were playing up.
Oh I guess I was just thinking new York because of all the Daredevil talk

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XIII_Rocks
09/09/22 4:12:52 PM
#143:


Oh I'm not a particular fan of how Wong breaking Abomination out of prison meaning he faces charges was just dropped.

I guess I'm still in BCS mode where everything has a consequence but meh. I guess it's fine. Still loved the episode.

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CassandraCain
09/09/22 4:13:58 PM
#144:


XIII_Rocks posted...
Tatiana is a fucking star, absolutely impeccable timing. I'm kind of glad I didn't know her at all before this because it's made everything she does feel like this really great surprise.

Yeah I'm catching up today, just finished eps 2 and 3. I'm astounded at how hilarious she is, and I'm already placing this show up there with WandaVision and Hawkeye quality-wise.

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RaidenGarai
09/09/22 4:17:20 PM
#145:


If you think shes funny here, watch Orphan Black. Allison is absolutely hilarious. Also Orphan Black is amazing.

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Johnbobb
09/09/22 4:54:11 PM
#146:


XIII_Rocks posted...
Oh I'm not a particular fan of how Wong breaking Abomination out of prison meaning he faces charges was just dropped.

I guess I'm still in BCS mode where everything has a consequence but meh. I guess it's fine. Still loved the episode.
yeah that didn't occur to me. Wong is a wanted man for federal crimes in the US. How could he just start a separate court case without facing his extending criminal charges first?

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Paratroopa1
09/09/22 4:56:50 PM
#147:


I wish they had come up with a comedic explanation for why charges weren't pursued against Wong - he's a practitioner of the mystic arts and has a bunch of possible tricks up his sleeve so they could have come up with something
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MoogleKupo141
09/09/22 5:44:00 PM
#148:


Johnbobb posted...
yeah that didn't occur to me. Wong is a wanted man for federal crimes in the US. How could he just start a separate court case without facing his extending criminal charges first?

i dont think charges were ever filed against him

like, the parole guy said hey thats a crime, then Wong magicked away, and... they probably just didnt bother trying to pursue charges against a foreign avenger wizard guy


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CassandraCain
09/09/22 6:08:22 PM
#149:


And it sounded more like the parole guy was just saying "so you do know you committed a crime right?" but it didn't seem like he was intent on actually taking legal action against Wong since, like, he's the sorcerer supreme and all

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Pokalicious
09/09/22 7:00:28 PM
#150:


Omg Madisynn has her own twitter page:

https://twitter.com/madisynn_2n1y?t=6fH8hxJq_osDpDdKCaWpvQ&s=09

It looks legit, Marvel Studios' own twitter page like one of her tweets.

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RaidenGarai
09/09/22 7:08:45 PM
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I dont know if thats official or not, there are a ton of parody accounts on Twitter. Either way though, its off to a good start.

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