Board 8 > CBS Reality Topic 4: The Titanic sunk, so Survivor 43 + TAR34 are back-to-back!

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Inviso posted...

gamebots who all seem to be playing for interchangeable Cody/Jesse to succeed.

Edgic talk/winner speculation: Yeah, after last week's episode I am 100% convinced that the winner is Cody or Jesse. They are Dom/Wendell-ing this thing and as soon as Gabler actually cast some doubt on them leading up to tribal and nothing came of it I was like "there's the smoking gun - the winner is from that pair."

Mewtwo59 posted...

I didn't really feel like Noelle had any more personality than the rest of them. This season, it felt like they're using interesting backstories to make you root for these people instead of their personalities, and Noelle's backstory was the one with the most screentime.

Noelle had the "leg jokes" line and "It's time to vote, right?" exchange with Jeff. Her hyper-competitiveness and sense of self-deprecation are traits more identifiable than anything most of the others have. Gabler, Cody, and Sami are the others, but even Cody's gotten dull, and Sami's arrogance isn't exactly an endearing trait.

Please note that Noelle doesn't have the same complex personality as castaways from better seasons. She just stands out in this bunch of bores.

Underleveled posted...

This season has had a lot of strong and competent teams.

This is boring, right?

Underleveled posted...

Edgic talk/winner speculation: Yeah, after last week's episode I am 100% convinced that the winner is Cody or Jesse. They are Dom/Wendell-ing this thing and as soon as Gabler actually cast some doubt on them leading up to tribal and nothing came of it I was like "there's the smoking gun - the winner is from that pair."

Yeah... I can't see anyone other than Cody, Jesse, or Gabler winning it all at this point, edit-wise. Gabler needs to take them both out, but with two idols between them, I don't see that happening unless the guys get extraordinarily cocky. At which point they should be talked about as among the dumbest Survivors ever. But that's a possibility. Gabler's definitely gonna try something.

And you do have a point about Edgic. They look for whatever semi-attractive young female they can latch onto and justify their thinking backwards. I used to be guilty of that, but Cassidy ain't winning. I'm just not going to mention that on Reddit because I get downvoted to hell, and once Cassidy loses I will be like "SEE? I told you guys that Cassidy wasn't winning." That said, I blocked a couple of jerks who mocked me for daring to challenge them.

Cassidy is basically getting Erika's edit, but without the supplemental evidence to her strategy. Erika had the "lamb to lion" confessional and her edit was thus a slow burn, but it still showed that she had agency in the game and was involved in numerous moves to build that up. Cassidy is a bystander, perhaps by choice, but she's not seen as a big threat likely because she isn't. S41 was Erika's story, how she appeared on the radar late in the game and won it all. S42 was Maryanne's story, but she was shown from the beginning as a relevant player. Cassidy has just been kinda there all season. And Edgic is latching onto a couple of confessionals of hers as if they were winner quotes that the others don't have... when some of them do.

I won't be watching Survivor or TAR live tonight, and might not even get a chance to watch them until Sunday.

I won't be watching next week's Survivor finale live either but I should be able to watch that one the next day.

If only Cody was getting caffeine and sugar the whole time.

That'll be something if Karla sealed her fate by asking Cody to see his idol.

Mewtwo59 posted...

That'll be something if Karla sealed her fate by asking Cody to see his idol.

tbh I'm shocked Cody didn't ask for it back after James went out with the Knowledge Is Power.

Wowsers

Well, Jesse's making fire at the very least.

Mewtwo59 posted...

Well, Jesse's making fire at the very least.

Yeah, he has the ghost idol. Back from the dead.

Also Cody is a moron, and he should be likened to Erik Reichenbach and Brandon Hantz for giving up immunity for no reason.

I hope they show a flashback next week on how Jesse managed to get the idol back.

Looks like Claire doing all those roadblocks she sucked at so Derek could do the late ones was a strategy that paid off.

I wouldn't sing that considering what happened to the last team to sing that.

Really hoping Derek/Claire win this (since Emily/Molly keep fucking up and these finales are usually way too tight to make those kinds of mistakes). Luis is annoying, and praising CaroJen's performance in TAR24 is hateworthy in and of itself.

Oh good, Will was able to be there.

Odd that Tim & Rex weren't there since they're from a Nashville suburb. I guess Rex had a conflict with ESPN?

Mewtwo59 posted...

Odd that Tim & Rex weren't there since they're from a Nashville suburb. I guess Rex had a conflict with ESPN?

I'm hearing that's the case.

Also, good winners.

What would have happened in the very unlikely event that Tim & Rex made the final leg? I'm curious what stipulations there were for Rex's casting, because they can't have a pre-determined placement for him. Obviously they picked him since he's a very memorable NFL coach despite not having too great a legacy. (The interim head coach of my college team, who's leaving after the bowl game, is one of the extremely few guys on his coaching tree. He played for Rex but was his most trusted field general, so it counts.)

Happy for Derek and Claire. They've really made the most of their time on CBS. The experience on BB and The Challenge certainly helped.

Ah every year I get disappointed towards the end of the CBS reality shows' runs and this year is no exception... undesirable results on both fronts last night, certainly a less colourful Survivor finale without the most colourful character. Guess I'm all-in on Jesse now, but I'm bracing for Karla at this point (if they don't get her out at F5 they all deserve to lose, frankly). 100% has to be one of those two.

Now somebody help me out here, I could have swore Amazing Race was confirmed returning for new season March 1 (same day as Survivor's return) but checking thefutoncritic now and I don't see anything for it. Was I imagining the next-season announcement? or did they announce, then withdraw to keep it in reserve for a mid-season replacement (or the Fall if nothing needs replacing)? Damn...

I'm not sure if they've even officially announced that TAR is coming back for another season. I know they were spotted during filming about a month or so ago, but that's all I've heard.

I thought I had heard TAR was officially renewed. Maybe it was just that 35 was filming.

Considering Derek has now been on Big Brother, The Challenge, and won TAR, what are the odds they get him on Survivor?

The identities of 17/18 S44 castaways are known. The first name of the 18th is known, but nothing else identifiable about them.

Underleveled posted...

The identities of 17/18 S44 castaways are known. The first name of the 18th is known, but nothing else identifiable about them.

well from knowing they have zero online presence, i can already identify that they probably "don't wanna make alliances" and are "just here for the experience" and that they plan on giving their jury vote to whoever wins the most individual immunities

...or maybe not every person with no info is rocksroy 2.0...

Hey, Rocksroy voted for the only person in that final 3 who didn't win an individual immunity!

I take it that means S44 is all new contestants again? That would make 4 consecutive seasons of no returning players which hasn't happened since... wikipedia check... yeah what I thought, seasons 16 through 19. Some returning gimmick for S45, surely?

Mewtwo59 posted...

I'm not sure if they've even officially announced that TAR is coming back for another season. I know they were spotted during filming about a month or so ago, but that's all I've heard.

Underleveled posted...

I thought I had heard TAR was officially renewed. Maybe it was just that 35 was filming.

Yeah I guess I got tripped up on filming news, or just still had Survivor on the brain and thought AR was returning then too, damn. Well, thanks for the feedback, good to know it'll (probably?) be back at some point.

MartinFF7 posted...

I take it that means S44 is all new contestants again? That would make 4 consecutive seasons of no returning players which hasn't happened since... wikipedia check... yeah what I thought, seasons 16 through 19. Some returning gimmick for S45, surely?

16 had returnees. The last four season stretch with no returnees was 12 through 15. The only other stretch that length or longer was the first seven seasons.

MartinFF7 posted...

I take it that means S44 is all new contestants again? That would make 4 consecutive seasons of no returning players which hasn't happened since... wikipedia check... yeah what I thought, seasons 16 through 19. Some returning gimmick for S45, surely?

Season 16 had returning players.

It's 12 through 15.

Absolutely insane that they've recognized an issue and rectified it.

Oh man I just glazed over Micronesia, lol. Thanks for the correction there.

Well still, the last full slate of non-winner returnees was 34 Game Changers... plenty of good characters in the 35-39, 41-43 (and ideally 44) stretch worth getting their additional moment in the sun? Even if they go halfsies with FvF3.

Literally and figuratively been years since my hopes for Lauren but especially Victoria from EoE to get another chance.... though knowing that season we know who'd be returning for sure!

MartinFF7 posted...

Literally and figuratively been years since my hopes for Lauren but especially Victoria from EoE to get another chance.... though knowing that season we know who'd be returning for sure!

They should give one or both of those two another go. Especially if they want eye candy, since both of them are good, knowledgeable players that are also very easy on the eyes.

Rick Devens is a 100% surefire returnee from that season because Probst, and it wouldn't surprise me to see Reem or The Wardog either. Pretty much all of the potential returnees started on Manu save for Victoria, maybe Aurora.

Keep in mind I don't know who would accept and who'd decline.

MartinFF7 posted...

Literally and figuratively been years since my hopes for Lauren but especially Victoria from EoE to get another chance.... though knowing that season we know who'd be returning for sure!

Yes, and it better be Reem, even if she's likely to end up being the first boot again.

MartinFF7 posted...

Oh man I just glazed over Micronesia, lol. Thanks for the correction there.

Well still, the last full slate of non-winner returnees was 34 Game Changers... plenty of good characters in the 35-39, 41-43 (and ideally 44) stretch worth getting their additional moment in the sun? Even if they go halfsies with FvF3.

Literally and figuratively been years since my hopes for Lauren but especially Victoria from EoE to get another chance.... though knowing that season we know who'd be returning for sure!

Angelina
Chrissy
Christian
Cody
Davie
Deshawn
Domenick
Erika
Gabby
Jamal
Janet
Jonathan
Karla
Maryanne
Dr. Mike
Noura
Ricard
Rick
Shan
Tori

Literally made that list in like 4 minutes of 20 players from 35-43 that I think would come back if asked, production would consider asking back, and would put on a good show if brought back (and meets the current diversity requirements but I didn't really have to try too hard to meet that).

I think Jeff has made a lot of confusing comments in interviews where he sort of implied they only wanted returnees from the post-40 era, but then walked it back and said that wasn't the case. I think it's still the case they wanted to build up this "new era" with more first-timer seasons though, maybe they will try to lean on these seasons for more returnees, but there's no way they can snub Christian and other fan favourites.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

They should give one or both of those two another go. Especially if they want eye candy, since both of them are good, knowledgeable players that are also very easy on the eyes.

yeah Victoria, and Sydney from 41, are that perfect combination. Victoria really was edit-shafted, she's hilarious; at least Sydney got lots of great moments before being screwed over. Both are very cute (Victoria way cuter)

darkx's list is pretty good but also more than a few names I'm groaning at the prospect of seeing again (is there really a clamoring for Dr. Mike, or returning winners).... also should be no Gabby if Christian and Angelina are the season locks that they really should be

Then again thinking of DvG, Mike White is all the rage nowadays for The White Lotus, maybe time to tap into his resurgent fame, lol

Maryanne deserves a second appearance even though she did win. Erika not so much. Same with Tommy and Chris. Jesse's the only person left this season that I think could deserve a second season if they win, so Cody as the sole 43 rep is fine.

And I doubt we'll see Mike White again. Jeff seems to think that casting him was a mistake due to their friendship, so it's not going to happen even without Mike's busy schedule.

Ah, didn't even know they were friends so fair enough. Maryanne is certainly entertaining enough to bring back on, so also fair.

I woudn't mind Kellee from IotI getting another crack at the game as apology for he-who-shall-not-be-named fucking things up but I imagine she wouldn't want to return & CBS would want to steer clear of that entirely...

From what I recall, Mike White sorta gave up at final tribal council because he was happy with the experience and didn't wanna take the million from Nick? I feel he's said this in interviews but maybe I'm remembering wrong. I think it's hard to bring someone back when they've shown they don't wanna win. But I dunno if it's true. It certainly felt true from what was aired in the episode.

MartinFF7 posted...

I woudn't mind Kellee from IotI getting another crack at the game as apology for he-who-shall-not-be-named fucking things up but I imagine she wouldn't want to return & CBS would want to steer clear of that entirely...

I've heard that Kellee doesn't want to come back for totally understandable reasons, which is why I didn't include her on my list. Otherwise she would be a slam-dunk.

Kellee went full Haskell. No chance she'll even pick up the phone.

I've also heard CBS doesn't want anyone back from that season because they want everyone to forget about it for equally obvious reasons. And since half the cast wanted to call production out for the incident at the reunion. Specifically for casting Feely to create that conflict then taking no responsibility for it.

I think Karla needs more than a slight advantage with how beat up she is.

Yay Karla! Even if she's still probably our F5 boot.

this puzzle looks hard as shit

You candid sign on a guaranteed home

Bye Karla.

the fact that everyone is so gung ho karla after jesse pulled that savage move is surprising

will it hold past the commercial break?

let's find out

Well, let's see if they vote her out or if Jesse has to idol her out.

Is Cassidy going to pull an accidental Devon and get Karla voted out here?

if he idols cassidy out that would be amazing

jeanine's reaction is everything

if owen and gabler just fold over that's going to be extremely disappointing

So Gabler has a shot at being the second person to get to the end and never have their name written down in any way.