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masterplum
12/01/22 5:46:31 PM
#153:


htaeD posted...
Sounds more like he is the best at everything besides being a Democrat.

And yet people in west Virginia keep electing him

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Grimlyn
12/01/22 5:51:22 PM
#154:


Thorn posted...
Edit: Oh wait, I'm hearing from people who were liveblogging that shitshow that it was Alex Jones who tweeted that using Kanye's phone? (also reading through the liveblogs of this are unreal)
Edit 2: Er, the tweet photographed in the tweet, that is.
Kanye's already been on video speaking out in his own words so much worse than that tweet so that's obviously not the subject of the post that's supposed to shock!

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Thorn
12/01/22 5:52:45 PM
#155:


I know, but I didn't want to derail the union vote topic so I just had to condense my "what the fuck happened" into that little space lol.

And the main body of the post was about Musk's hypocrisy and bullshit!

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ChaosTonyV4
12/01/22 5:54:14 PM
#156:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
How long until the theory becomes that Kanye has been a secret liberal the entire time and has thrown his credibility and his life away to make the likes of Donald Trump and Alex Jones look bad by doing and saying things beyond the pale even for the likes of them?

Negative 6 months.

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Peace___Frog
12/01/22 6:20:41 PM
#157:


HashtagSEP posted...
You hear that, guys. plum straight up called you idiots. get'im.
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LordoftheMorons
12/01/22 8:38:30 PM
#158:


https://twitter.com/orinkerr/status/1598456998852718592?s=21

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Seanchan
12/01/22 8:47:58 PM
#159:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/orinkerr/status/1598456998852718592?s=21

I believe I read that there's a 7 day stay on this to allow for an appeal, which would be to the Supreme Court, I think.

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red_sox_777
12/01/22 9:00:22 PM
#160:


Seanchan posted...
I believe I read that there's a 7 day stay on this to allow for an appeal, which would be to the Supreme Court, I think.

SCOTUS has a super easy out on this one. Just don't take the case. I think Trump is out of luck.

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Seanchan
12/01/22 9:03:40 PM
#161:


red_sox_777 posted...
SCOTUS has a super easy out on this one. Just don't take the case. I think Trump is out of luck.

I sure hope so, but you never know.

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Jakyl25
12/01/22 9:22:55 PM
#162:


https://twitter.com/dadshammdad/status/1598388089596317696?s=46&t=PHvIPn147TPCrwCve7rq-Q

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Jakyl25
12/01/22 9:57:01 PM
#163:


https://twitter.com/popbase/status/1598508276471455746?s=46&t=Y9-AhtyOsDs-cCnCT5pOXw

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Grimlyn
12/01/22 9:58:33 PM
#164:


how the fuck can that last one possibly be real

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Jakyl25
12/01/22 10:06:24 PM
#165:


Grimlyn posted...
how the fuck can that last one possibly be real

Have you listened to what he claims his message is?

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masterplum
12/01/22 10:07:15 PM
#166:


Grimlyn posted...
how the fuck can that last one possibly be real

The funniest part to me is this is what he wants to plant his flag on

"How should I show a union of two different groups of people? I know, loving both Nazis and Jews"

Like of all the ways he could have shown two groups that hate each other getting along he really went with this

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masterplum
12/01/22 10:10:02 PM
#167:


Also the worst part is he is imploding way too early

Would have been nice for the insane vote to split between Republican and Kanye. At this rate he will be in jail for a hate crime by election day 2024

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Grimlyn
12/01/22 10:12:52 PM
#168:


Jakyl25 posted...
Have you listened to what he claims his message is?
i knowwww but

but

fucking fuck

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Kenri
12/01/22 10:16:26 PM
#169:


masterplum posted...
Because people who criticize him are idiots

I would argue he is in fact the best Democrat senator. His voting record above replacement value is off the chart
Wow, with best democrat senators like this, who needs Republicans?

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red_sox_777
12/01/22 10:39:22 PM
#170:


Kenri posted...
Wow, with best democrat senators like this, who needs Republicans?

That's exactly Manchin's election pitch. With him representing West Virginia, they don't need to elect a Republican. So they don't.

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Thorn
12/02/22 6:09:17 PM
#172:


https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1598707438064222208

What a shock, DeSantis threatening to strip Disey's self-governance was just bluster and pandering to the right and they're going to quietly reverse course and leave them alone.

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ChaosTonyV4
12/02/22 10:53:17 PM
#173:


The truth came out about Twitter and the Hunter Biden laptop.

Would it surprise you to know that its an actual nothingburger, and yet right wing dorks are saying Biden should be impeached because his teambefore he was Presidentdid fascism by asking Twitter to take down pictures of Hunters hog.

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Thorn
12/02/22 11:00:12 PM
#174:


Also, in the process of posting this nothingburger they managed to dox jack and overlook that the messenger Musk picked to "report" it has an extremely sketchy past re: MeToo.

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LordoftheMorons
12/02/22 11:02:52 PM
#175:


Thats right there in the constitution: if you ask people to please stop distribution of your kids dick pick youre immediately hung for treason

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LordoftheMorons
12/02/22 11:03:59 PM
#176:


Thorn posted...
Also, in the process of posting this nothingburger they managed to dox jack and overlook that the messenger Musk picked to "report" it has an extremely sketchy past re: MeToo.
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1598850232602722305?s=21

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Thorn
12/02/22 11:06:22 PM
#177:


Yeah, that's why I added the bit about Taibbi's background - because it's the height of hypocrisy that they're cheering him on/taking his word given his past.

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Grimlyn
12/03/22 6:42:29 AM
#178:


dude personally wants to destabilize the world

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/9/AAeYFbAAD8ld.jpg

source: i've seen some tweets y'all

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Peace___Frog
12/03/22 8:20:24 AM
#179:


Grimlyn posted...
dude personally wants to destabilize the world
Given that it looks like the nothing burger from taibbi appears to also have come from elmo, I'd say that's pretty accurate

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theawesomestevr
12/03/22 7:04:24 PM
#180:


Thorn posted...
Also, in the process of posting this nothingburger they managed to dox jack and overlook that the messenger Musk picked to "report" it has an extremely sketchy past re: MeToo.

Is there something new that happened or is it a reference to this:
https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/matt-taibbi/the-destruction-of-matt-taibbi/

It comes across as the typical politically motivated, dishonest character assassination that happens when someone that's "not supposed to" has the audacity to be even remotely critical of their side of the political aisle. It would be fair enough if there's actually merit to it, which is why I'm asking, but I can't find anything suggesting there is.
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LordoftheMorons
12/03/22 7:08:01 PM
#181:


https://twitter.com/TVietor08/status/1599192095293845504

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Thorn
12/03/22 8:28:18 PM
#182:


This article goes into a lot more than the just the situation around eXile but it does describe it there along with the general culture of sexism, including corroboration from a former target of harassment:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/what-happened-to-matt-taibbi.html

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ChaosTonyV4
12/03/22 9:12:15 PM
#183:


I think focusing on alleged misogyny or sexual harassment when discussing how Taibbi has devolved into a terrible journalist misses the mark.

People who read The Twitter Files and dont immediately understand how badly reported it is arent going to be convinced by it.

Instead, point out the flaws in the reporting and let them draw their own conclusions on his motives.

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064?s=46&t=Vi3BvwDphNyjSqGjK5C0Iw

His first scoop is an example of manipulated speech where it appears someone from Bidens team messaged Twitter a bunch of tweets, and Twitter immediately jumped to handle it.

Well 2 seconds on the wayback and youd see those tweets of evidence are literally naked pictures of Hunter Biden and an unknown woman he was with. Posting those is 1) a crime, and 2) quote obviously against Twitters TOS

Why would Taibbi call a reasonable, normal, and lawful request manipulating speech, and why is the contents of those tweets conspicuously absent?

Why wouldnt a journalist reporting on Bidens controlling Twitter want to be specific about whats being controlled?

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Jakyl25
12/03/22 9:14:15 PM
#184:


You know its a nothingburger if Tony doesnt think it makes Biden look bad

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Thorn
12/03/22 9:16:53 PM
#185:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I think focusing on alleged misogyny or sexual harassment when discussing how Taibbi has devolved into a terrible journalist misses the mark.
I specifically brought it in only because of how the report doxxed jack and how alt-right spaces were reacting to jack's email having the word "pizza" in it and how much cognitive dissonance was going on that specifically. Not as a means of shitting on the joke of a "report."

I thought the context of my reply made that clear.

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ChaosTonyV4
12/03/22 9:17:16 PM
#186:


Part 2 of Taibbi is a terrible journalist now:

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598829996264390656?s=46&t=Vi3BvwDphNyjSqGjK5C0Iw

He admits that the Biden team AND the Trump Administration requested tweets to be removed. Interestingly, he offers zero examples of tweets Trump got deleted, and asserts a claim with faulty evidence. Employees donate more to Democrats is not evidence that Twitter took more orders from Dems, its quite literally a red herring. Additionally, if the mere act of doing it is an affront, why is the actual President doing it not an important part to elaborate on? Its literally a throwaway linewhy?

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theawesomestevr
12/03/22 9:27:16 PM
#187:


Thorn posted...
This article goes into a lot more than the just the situation around eXile but it does describe it there along with the general culture of sexism, including corroboration from a former target of harassment:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/what-happened-to-matt-taibbi.html

"In 2017, as the firestorm built, Kathy Lally of the Washington Post wrote that she and other female journalists who served as correspondents in Moscow were subject to boorish writings and pranks from Taibbi. The eXiles distinguishing feature, more than anything else, was its blinding sexism which often targeted me. (Lally declined to comment for this story.)

Taibbi offered a lengthy Facebook apology in wake of the controversy while denying he sexually harassed anyone. As a young man, I wrote and said some very dumb and hurtful things, he wrote. But it was never more than that. I know the list of revealed harassers is growing, but I am not on that list, nor should I be. I belong to a much bigger group. I was young once, and a jerk. And I am sorry for that."


...That's the whole extent to which they address anything supposedly MeToo-related

From Lally's own Washington Post article:
"Finally, we are confronting men who have abused and sexually harassed women for years. That reckoning has been too long coming. But you dont have to grope a woman or force a kiss on her to humiliate her, to make her doubt herself, to silence and diminish her. Bullying, treating women with contempt, freezing them out of the lunches and meetings that build networks and authority: All are damaging, insidious and difficult to root out. That will take time and more women who call men out. Thats why Im saying #MeToo."

From reading her article, the gist is they both had beef with each other decades ago in Russia, and his publication at the time wrote meanspirited things about her in response (for which he has since apologized).

That's far more discrediting to people trying to paint Taibbi as some sort of sex pest than it is to Taibbi.

Seems like a safe guess that the people making the accusations never bothered to actually read these articles (which to a certain extent I can't blame them; that was a lot of reading to do, only to realize there isn't even an actual MeToo claim). But don't let the truth get in the way of a politically convenient narrative I guess.
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StealThisSheen
12/03/22 9:34:46 PM
#188:


I'm confused. Is the above poster attempting to defend Taibbi or am I misreading it because I'm drunk

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red_sox_777
12/03/22 10:23:07 PM
#189:


Jakyl25 posted...
You know its a nothingburger if Tony doesnt think it makes Biden look bad

It doesn't sound like a nothingburger at all. Twitter looks awful. Biden is fine - now if they'd found Hillary's emails on that laptop.....!

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Thorn
12/03/22 11:07:19 PM
#190:


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1599023769019826176

Trump calling for the "termination" of the Constitution because *checks notes* Twitter's moderators removed dick pics when they were brought to their attention.

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htaeD
12/04/22 6:16:46 AM
#191:


I cant keep track of this nonsense. Was there ever even anything proven about Hunter?

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Dancedreamer
12/04/22 11:24:38 AM
#192:


I'd love to live in a world where the same people on this Hunter Biden thing gave half the same scrutiny toward Donald Trump's kids.

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Peace___Frog
12/04/22 9:11:04 PM
#193:


Terrorists destroyed two substations in order to cut power to an 18+ drag show in Moore County, NC yesterday. As a result, over 40,000 people were without power this weekend, and the electrical company expects it to be some time before it can be restored. Schools are canceled for tomorrow, and not definitive for the rest of the week. Cell service is spotty, and reported traffic coming out of the area was heavy.

This after fascists in Columbus stopped a separate drag event. The event organizers asked the local police for perusing during the event, but were told that the department could not spare anyone at that time.
Multiple officers were photographed talking nicely with the fascists at the time of the event.

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LordoftheMorons
12/04/22 9:19:01 PM
#194:


When you totally know what a pronoun is beyond them being a conservative outrage totem:

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1599524755522068480?s=21

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Paratroopa1
12/04/22 9:23:29 PM
#195:


Peace___Frog posted...
Terrorists destroyed two substations in order to cut power to an 18+ drag show in Moore County, NC yesterday. As a result, over 40,000 people were without power this weekend, and the electrical company expects it to be some time before it can be restored. Schools are canceled for tomorrow, and not definitive for the rest of the week. Cell service is spotty, and reported traffic coming out of the area was heavy.
I think we should pump the brakes on this for a moment, this is still unconfirmed
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Peace___Frog
12/04/22 10:44:06 PM
#196:


Eh, fair. All speculation, you're correct. Perhaps it was an accident.
I'm still pissed about the Columbus thing.

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Forceful_Dragon
12/04/22 11:38:55 PM
#197:


I mean, I wont be surprised if that turns out to be the case, but we can afford to wait for some sort of confirmation first.

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Paratroopa1
12/04/22 11:43:39 PM
#198:


The power station is confirmed to have been damaged intentionally, but we don't know who the shooter was and the link between that and the drag show isn't confirmed. The timing is highly suspect, so I won't be surprised if that ends up being the reason, but I've been seeing this one passed around like it's common knowledge when there's absolutely nothing proving the link yet.
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Corrik7
12/06/22 10:43:20 AM
#199:


"Ambivalent Right"

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/quiz/political-typology/results/?archetype=b51279c97d0f4ca27ac34e8dc29394bb

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/quiz/political-typology/

Pretty sure this quiz isn't very good though.

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Reg
12/06/22 10:49:37 AM
#200:


There was a right wing shitter posting on social media immediately after it happened that she knew why the power went out, which is why that connection keeps being made afaik
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ChaosTonyV4
12/06/22 10:59:37 AM
#201:


"Outsider Left"

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/quiz/political-typology/results/?archetype=60b651c57b106fd68b9b0f450e4983da

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/quiz/political-typology/

We out here, lol.

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VintageGin
12/06/22 11:01:08 AM
#202:


Also got Outsider Left

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Kenri
12/06/22 11:10:59 AM
#203:


Outsider left for me too

Thermometer ratings:

You rated Democrats 30.

Outsider Left, on average, rated Democrats 52. The general public, on average, rated Democrats 46.

You rated Republicans 0.

Outsider Left, on average, rated Republicans 27. The general public, on average, rated Republicans 42.


not sure whether to lmao or jfc

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