Board 8 > Eff 2021 Mafia: Topic 2 - Side Effects May Include Swollen Cousin Testicles

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I mean I have no reason to hide this. I outed myself right away for town to know what happened

at least Ben realized thats what I did

BCT has received a formal warning for making me do all this work.

OH! And also..

Lopen has died! He was

This is the only thing in Scare's favor here...

I mean I guess you had two posts in an hour before the stop where you kind of shaded Lopen when talking to Ben but your vote was on Han so being worried that those two posts made scum Lopen shoot you is hm hm hm

I didn't have to publically shoot, I just don't claim that as scum

I mean reverse psychology is a thing.

ScareChan posted...

and I thought Lopen was scum. I was pretty much the only one pressing him so I had that moment of worry I was being shot and thats what the stop was

why are you, the dayvig, worrying about being shot

I will grant him that the technicalities of the STOP dont prove anything for certain
And I shouldnt be using such things for opinions anyway.

Chaeix posted...

why are you, the dayvig, worrying about being shot

Fucked up games have fucked up roles. If I'm a day action surely there's others and scum would have one

I don't buy this at all.

All Scare really talked about earlier was Lopen so that checks out at least.

Telling you right now, if another day shot happens this game Scare is SK.

SK would never out themselves by announcing they made the shot if they knew there was going to be more shots

If another dayshot happens and it isn't Scare who dies, what then?

TotallyNotMI posted...

SK would never out themselves by announcing they made the shot if they knew there was going to be more shots

REALLY?

REALLY?

SOMEONE literally in this game right now did just that.

I'm just disappointed scare didn't check in with his masons before making this shot...

Corrik7 posted...

REALLY?

REALLY?

SOMEONE literally in this game right now did just that.

What

TotallyNotMI posted...

I'm just disappointed scare didn't check in with his masons before making this shot...

tbf Lea telegraphed a dayvig

TotallyNotMI posted...

What

Ask Lea

Hey Lea

What

anyways

back to this then

##Vote: Han

show yourself

Just so we are clear... before an every other day SK claimed their shot day 1. Day 3 happened and they swore it wasn't them and someone else... why would they claim it if they were a SK? Day 5 happened and another day kill happened before they got lynched for it.

They were hoping to win before getting to that day.

Yeah definitely missed this Lea stuff too

Oh well if it happens every other day that's a different situation than every day.

But granted that's still a counter example.

I'm still leaning towards town scare who misshot it happens we've all been there.

Corrik7 posted...

Just so we are clear... before an every other day SK claimed their shot day 1. Day 3 happened and they swore it wasn't them and someone else... why would they claim it if they were a SK? Day 5 happened and another day kill happened before they got lynched for it.

They were hoping to win before getting to that day.

Why did Lea claim again?

Honestly 1 % of me is still expecting Scare to say he was joking around because his reasoning is bizarre to me otherwise.

Corrik7 posted...

why would they claim it if they were a SK?

They claimed because "why would I do it if I were a SK"

Pretty sure to my memory the first shot hit scum also so they coasted to scum as spent shot and to town as confirmed town.

I'll read after I cook dinner

That sounds like a reason for Scare to not want to follow Lea's example here

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I'll read after I cook dinner

-scummoned-

##Unvote: Han

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Ohhhh

Oh you're talking about a different game. Nevermind.

htaeD posted...

Honestly 1 % of me is still expecting Scare to say he was joking around because his reasoning is bizarre to me otherwise.

What do you find bizzare about it death?

Why did you even vote for me, Scare? You know I've been busy.

The part about the STOP making him fear being shot.
Maybe I am just expecting too much logic but I find it hard to buy.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Why did you even vote for me, Scare? You know I've been busy.

I said give you the 24 hours. MI said if you could rp you could post. I gave in and joined on that logic because it seemed fun

Town do weird things. My only disappointment is that Scare didn't shoot me - because wrong Ben is scum Ben.

He's clearly town though and made no attempt to hide this, to set it up correctly, or come up with a compelling reason to do it other than his own read. He though Lopen was going to flip scum. That is it.

He will now replace Lopen as my #2. Scare, if that was your goal all along, congratulations

htaeD posted...

The part about the STOP making him fear being shot.
Maybe I am just expecting too much logic but I find it hard to buy.

Maybe not logical but I can definitely see town power being emotional and fearing if they don't get their shot off now they may not be able to. So I'm buying Scare here.

Alright, I'm caught up. Couldn't be around for much of today (and won't be much further, I'm European), but I have the whole day off tomorrow, so I can redeem it then.

I don't think putting early pressure on either BCT or Sultan (or anyone) is a bad move, it has been useful to townclear them in the past and I think the interactions that came from it has made Sultan look pretty towny so there you go. I agree he as scum would have thought about that more. While it's a weird thing to discuss I also totally buy the reasoning for capitalizing flavor miller which people seemed to find weird. I've cohosted with Sultan before and he wrote everything in a phone note and put roles like that, plus I know he has more games ready in the same format.

Chang discussing/theorizing mechanics in detail is not at all a scumtell for him, he always does that. I also don't think it's that bad an idea to do. I was not gonna comment much on the Suprak player slot myself because there are too many unknowns but then I did agree on the point about it having a post sounding BCT like and it's not being used very pro town atm, though I must say that if it's a scum BCT using it, I think he would have asked for advice and somebody would have pointed that out. Also keep in mind that player might want to make it seem like it's someone else. Then BCT goes on to crumble earlier than I think he usually does and also with less countervoting/reacting than I think he usually does, hm.

Then game takes a wild turn with Lopen dying, and I wish I had skimmed to that point before catching up so I could have read knowing an allignment. That's a possible way to go tomorrow. I'll sleep on this, but I will say that I am struggling to see what scum team agrees on shooting Lopen here so unless someone else comes in and claims the shot then I don't think going after Scare is the way to go. Admittedly, I am also struggling to see what town player shoots Lopen this early without putting at the very least putting more pressure on them first but that's not as much of a struggle and I also have never played with Scare before so what do I know.

Hey BCT - why did you say Sultan was Town on page 1?

Lopen posted...

Han is seeing how Lopen reacts to silence so he can attempt to see if Lopen will try to call him scum for that to townclear Lopen because town Lopen always calls Han scum and then the game gets derailed.

This is because Han does not think Lopen has the ability to learn between games.

HAN I VOW NOT TO PUT ANY PRESSURE ON YOU AT ALL THIS GAME. SOMEONE ELSE WILL HAVE TO PUT THE LEGWORK IN IF YOU ARE INDEED SCUM. SCOUT'S HONOR. LET'S GET SCUM TOGETHER

Deal

Alot going on for a day 1 I like it but also what so many claims? I get Ben is being Ben and idk if Scare is serious but day vig on day 1 is a terrible idea.

If Sultan didn't have his issue with flavor split earlier I'd vote him after that post.

Also going after BCT day 1 is a bad look. But I need to read more to see why. I'd say he is still pretty green

PunishedBen posted...

Town do weird things. My only disappointment is that Scare didn't shoot me - because wrong Ben is scum Ben.

He's clearly town though and made no attempt to hide this, to set it up correctly, or come up with a compelling reason to do it other than his own read. He though Lopen was going to flip scum. That is it.

He will now replace Lopen as my #2. Scare, if that was your goal all along, congratulations

I wish I had pro gamer strats that deep. I would need to be like prime Scare to think that far ahead lol

I'm not fully caught up yet but there's no world in which a Scum Scare does a shit awful dayvig shot onto LOPEN. If Scare doesn't think he has the time/energy enough for the full game and is going to shoot his shot like that, he's blowing it on a player like me/MI/Lea.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Also going after BCT day 1 is a bad look.

Why?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Why?

Beacuse he is still green but I also made the mistake of looking to hard into him last game