Board 8 > Eff 2021 Mafia: Topic 2 - Side Effects May Include Swollen Cousin Testicles

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ctesjbuvf
12/12/22 9:13:24 AM
#251:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Nah I went back to s***posting instead of thinking about death too much.

Yeah see that's what bothered me. You made a decent point while your best use of a vote was on someone that had not posted once yet and yet somehow stops there completely. It makes it look like you made the point because Lopen asked and actually didn't want to go after Death.

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TheSultanOfSlam
12/12/22 9:18:33 AM
#252:


htaeD posted...
The Unlynchable one?
Even I dont believe it.

Isquens flavor sounds fitting..
Though I want to ask him if he felt his flavor and Scare's claimed flavor added to his view of Scare.


I second this for isquen to do

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MZero
12/12/22 9:19:54 AM
#253:


TotallyNotMI posted...
1) Ben
2) BlueCrystalTear
3) Chaeix
9) Isquen
13) MysteriousStan
14) MZero
15) SBell

This is my shortlist of people I think we should focus attention on today

I like this list other than the incredibly handsome guy in the 14 spot

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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 9:21:42 AM
#254:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Yeah see that's what bothered me. You made a decent point while your best use of a vote was on someone that had not posted once yet and yet somehow stops there completely. It makes it look like you made the point because Lopen asked and actually didn't want to go after Death.
I mean I'm the one who brought up my suspicions on death in the first place

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TheSultanOfSlam
12/12/22 9:21:53 AM
#255:


Active MZero seems to be town MZero

Could be wrong but so far it seems like towny Mzero

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TheSultanOfSlam
12/12/22 9:22:37 AM
#256:


You guys read Ben better than I do, how is this different than every other game he plays?

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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 9:22:46 AM
#257:


I do have a weakness for handsome guys, Mzero might get a pass for now.

##Vote: Ben

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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 9:23:44 AM
#258:


Also ctes is probably town for prodding me when the rest of the game has been calling me clearly town. Would be a ballsy move for scum to make.

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TheSultanOfSlam
12/12/22 9:25:55 AM
#259:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Also ctes is probably town for prodding me when the rest of the game has been calling me clearly town. Would be a ballsy move for scum to make.


Who is calling you clearly town??

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ctesjbuvf
12/12/22 9:27:11 AM
#260:


TotallyNotMI posted...
I mean I'm the one who brought up my suspicions on death in the first place

Well yeah, but when Lopen then seemed to agree with you, you stopped again, and now he's not even in a pool of 7 candidates to look at because of a good post. I'll leave it at that for now but it looks pretty bad if Death is scum. It would not hurt to elaborate a bit on those people you listed though.

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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 9:34:05 AM
#261:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Who is calling you clearly town??
Han, Mzero, Corrik, Lea. Maybe more people but them off the top of my head.

ctesjbuvf posted...
Well yeah, but when Lopen then seemed to agree with you, you stopped again, and now he's not even in a pool of 7 candidates to look at because of a good post. I'll leave it at that for now but it looks pretty bad if Death is scum. It would not hurt to elaborate a bit on those people you listed though.
Day 1 one good post that feels like town can get you off my list. Those that I listed I don't feel like have had even that. Thus they are on my list.

I don't do big wall of texts for my reads.

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ctesjbuvf
12/12/22 9:36:24 AM
#262:


So it's a PoE to some degree, gotcha. Don't want walls of texts either, just a point or two about what got them there, if any existed.

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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 9:44:43 AM
#263:


My biggest point for BCT (and I know death disagreed with me on it) is that he didn't come back since his warning. It feels like scum yelled at him to be more careful and he's hiding because of it. I think town BCT has made an appearance by now.

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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 9:45:05 AM
#264:


A lot of the rest of them my point would just be "what have they done do far" yeah

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BlueCrystalTear
12/12/22 9:47:03 AM
#265:


Oh, I didn't get modkilled? Okay, lemme catch up. lawl

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Corrik7
12/12/22 9:48:49 AM
#266:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Han, Mzero, Corrik, Lea. Maybe more people but them off the top of my head.

Day 1 one good post that feels like town can get you off my list. Those that I listed I don't feel like have had even that. Thus they are on my list.

I don't do big wall of texts for my reads.
I called you town?

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MZero
12/12/22 9:50:38 AM
#267:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Oh, I didn't get modkilled? Okay, lemme catch up. lawl

dare i say scummoned

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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 9:53:48 AM
#268:


Corrik7 posted...
I'm good with Sultan (as not scum at least and prob just town), BCT, Han, and Red. Probably MI too.


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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 9:54:28 AM
#269:


MZero posted...
dare i say scummoned
I mean...

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Corrik7
12/12/22 9:55:48 AM
#270:


That's wild. I wonder why I thought that. I think I'm getting dementia or something. I'll have to go back and read how I got to that.

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BlueCrystalTear
12/12/22 9:56:18 AM
#271:


MZero posted...
dare i say scummoned
Please share the link to the scum board, since I most certainly did not get an invite, seeing as I am town who so happened to think he was modkilled and thus was like "Meh, don't wanna deal with it" when I was feeling dead inside last night.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Why would I kill Lopen when Lopen was blatantly town? You're going up my suspect list, Lea.

Scare dayvigging Lopen also is interesting in all the wrong ways. Lopen was freaking TOWN. And the fact that it happened during a STOP makes me think there's some funny business with that role.

Current top suspects in no specific order:
Ben
chang
Lea
MZero
SBell
Scare

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Corrik7
12/12/22 9:56:51 AM
#272:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Current top suspects in no specific order:
Ben
chang
Lea
MZero
SBell
Scare
Why

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BlueCrystalTear
12/12/22 9:57:34 AM
#273:


Seriously though, it doesn't matter what I post, I am ALWAYS suspected D1 because of my first game back, when I was actually scum.

I've been town each time since then. For fuck's sake, people. How do some of you get away with never being suspected D1?

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Obellisk
12/12/22 9:59:54 AM
#274:


Still caching up, morning folks.

I don't see the equity in isquen faking a "counterclaim".

I can see isquen jumping the gun (pun intended) in accusing Scare of not being truthful as his claimed role is practically the same as what Scare has claimed, but I think we've all seen that movie before.

Han, I love the fire, and frankly your earlier posting of isquens posts did paint him in a bad light, however I can't see going 1 for 1 here making sense.

Isquens jumps on Scare. we lynch Scare and he's town... isquen uses his claimed shot, perhaps hits town himself and then we lynch isquen and he's scum? If isquen is scum he can just remain silent and still get his shot off. it's so early in the game there's no reason to force a Scare mislynch.

All that said, I guess we do have the SK fear to worry about. however I feel like Isquen being scum in this situation is highly unlikely.

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BlueCrystalTear
12/12/22 10:01:01 AM
#275:


Corrik7 posted...
Why
Ben because what little I've seen reminds me of his scum style of play. Don't ask.
Chang because of what I said last night.
Lea because she accused me of killing Lopen without any rhyme or reason, which is obvious projecting.
MZero because he's being critical of literally everything I do because I'm the easy mislynch target.
SBell because that's a gut feeling.
Scare because scum dayvig is entirely possible, and shooting a clearly town Lopen on D1 is not something someone who's pro-town would do. If I were dayvig, I'd wait until D2 to use it. If I got killed N1, oh well. People would understand why I'd have held the power until D2: The thought of wanting to use it right.

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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 10:01:39 AM
#276:


My issue is why wouldn't town Isquen stay quiet and just shoot scare tomorrow.

Or counter claim immediately and openly to get him lynched while keeping his shot.

To kind of half ass both options is not great

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MZero
12/12/22 10:02:15 AM
#277:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Current top suspects in no specific order:
Ben
chang
Lea
MZero
SBell
Scare

What pushed Ben from a neutral read to the suspect list?

what's your beef with Lea and SBell?

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MZero
12/12/22 10:03:05 AM
#278:


I should have refreshed first

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BlueCrystalTear
12/12/22 10:03:10 AM
#279:


MZero posted...
What pushed Ben from a neutral read to the suspect list?
When did I have a neutral read on Ben?

I answered the other question above.

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MZero
12/12/22 10:05:09 AM
#280:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
When did I have a neutral read on Ben?

BlueCrystalTear posted...
I don't like how defensive and facetious Ben is being right now either. But I really don't know what to make of it.

this sounds like a neutral read to me, or at least not a scum read


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Obellisk
12/12/22 10:05:50 AM
#281:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Ben because what little I've seen reminds me of his scum style of play. Don't ask.


I'm going to ask. Please continue.

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Obellisk
12/12/22 10:08:10 AM
#282:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Scare because scum dayvig is entirely possible, and shooting a clearly town Lopen on D1 is not something someone who's pro-town would do.

Please provide supporting documents that paints Lopen in a clearly town light.

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Obellisk
12/12/22 10:09:19 AM
#283:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Lea because she accused me of killing Lopen without any rhyme or reason, which is obvious projecting.

But we know that Scare shot Lopen. it's openly claimed. so what is Lea projecting?

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Corrik7
12/12/22 10:20:38 AM
#284:


Obellisk posted...
Still caching up, morning folks.

I don't see the equity in isquen faking a "counterclaim".

I can see isquen jumping the gun (pun intended) in accusing Scare of not being truthful as his claimed role is practically the same as what Scare has claimed, but I think we've all seen that movie before.

Han, I love the fire, and frankly your earlier posting of isquens posts did paint him in a bad light, however I can't see going 1 for 1 here making sense.

Isquens jumps on Scare. we lynch Scare and he's town... isquen uses his claimed shot, perhaps hits town himself and then we lynch isquen and he's scum? If isquen is scum he can just remain silent and still get his shot off. it's so early in the game there's no reason to force a Scare mislynch.

All that said, I guess we do have the SK fear to worry about. however I feel like Isquen being scum in this situation is highly unlikely.
So scare is 100% town to you?

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BlueCrystalTear
12/12/22 10:21:01 AM
#285:


Obellisk posted...
But we know that Scare shot Lopen. it's openly claimed. so what is Lea projecting?
I can definitely see a Lea/MZero team trying to push my mislynch, because scum believes they'll benefit from that. That makes the most sense to me right now. This is why Lea's "theory" was to blame me for Lopen dying, when I'd already said Lopen was town from giving off the same vibe he did on the last day of last game. He and I teamed up to figure out the last two scum because we recognized each other as town after both having an epiphany. I looked for nuances in his language and found them to be the same as last time. I would NEVER EVER have shot Lopen in that circumstance - again, if I was dayvig, I'd have waited until D2, and even then Lopen would've been one of the LAST people I'd have shot. Better to get night killed before using it than to use it wrong.

Here are a few posts that make me think Lopen is town (even though he suspected me):
Lopen posted...
Nothing specifically. I just think that amount of focus on the Suprak slot out of the gates is inherently scummy. It is absolutely possible he was not waiting on a non-Corrik and just happened to post all that until after Corrik.

I do not think Chang and Corrik are super linked. I'm suspicious of Corrik because I don't think his push on Sultan ever comes from a town mindset-- doubly so when he claimed he didn't know the flavor split when he got his PM.

Lopen posted...
I'm suspicious of you because I need your logic for pursuing Sultan based on flavor reasoning to make sense for a reason that isn't easyprey.

Based on what the flavor is explained to be, my flavor PM, Sultan's own propensity for reading things carefully, and your own thoughts on when people should have figured out the flavor split, I do not find your logic for pursuing Sultan based on him claiming Flavor Miller to make sense for any reason other than easyprey.

Lopen posted...
BCT and I literally just won a game by him convincing me he was town and us catching the last scum

He was there for the hype.

Do I think he gives up this easily when he thinks I am appearing to be town and am one of the people suspecting him? Seems unlikely. But I'm willing for other interpretations.

I honestly don't think Lopen actually suspected me as much as he wanted to put pressure on me to see how I'd react. And then when I was like "Ugh, I give up on this" he actually started suspecting me. But that was just me not wanting to deal with anything.

I also can't really answer the Ben question right now.... maybe I was getting things mixed up. I need to reread and reexamine that. I will do so at my earliest convenience.

Also, let's lynch some scum.
##vote:Lea

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Corrik7
12/12/22 10:21:57 AM
#286:


Obellisk posted...
Please provide supporting documents that paints Lopen in a clearly town light.
Dude was town af

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Corrik7
12/12/22 10:23:16 AM
#287:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
can definitely see a Lea/MZero team trying to push my mislynch, because scum believes they'll benefit from that
Do you think scum fears you? Better chance the people after you are lazy ass town who can't help themselves than go after the low hanging fruit.

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Corrik7
12/12/22 10:24:22 AM
#288:


Bct did you ever say lopen was town before he you know uh flipped town? Just wondering.

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htaeD
12/12/22 10:30:16 AM
#289:


I kinda liked Mzero early on because I dont recall scumzero being so serious right away.

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BlueCrystalTear
12/12/22 10:31:44 AM
#290:


Corrik7 posted...
Do you think scum fears you? Better chance the people after you are lazy ass town who can't help themselves than go after the low hanging fruit.
They think I'm "???" and can double vote, which I'd say is reason to be feared.

Corrik7 posted...
Bct did you ever say lopen was town before he you know uh flipped town? Just wondering.
post #334 I compared him to the last day of last game

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Obellisk
12/12/22 10:40:13 AM
#291:


Corrik7 posted...
So scare is 100% town to you?

I'm not saying I would put all my eggs in scares town basket.

But I can't see isquen making these waves if isquen is scum.

I suppose my whole post focused more on Han pushing a scum isquen and less about scares place in all of this.

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TheSultanOfSlam
12/12/22 10:41:30 AM
#292:


So Sbell doesn't want to look at Isquen or Scare

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htaeD
12/12/22 10:42:00 AM
#293:


I was of the mind that scum wouldn't allow BCT to stay quiet after he survived a MK but...

BlueCrystalTear posted...
Oh, I didn't get modkilled? Okay, lemme catch up. lawl


...this looks/sound like a scummon.

Why would I kill Lopen when Lopen was blatantly town? You're going up my suspect list, Lea.


But this sounds like BCT being way too nave again. And I didnt think he would make an actual case out of it.
(Though the answer here is kinda obvious BCT!)
He just has that goshdarned tone of this that I cant hate but also cant trust.
And the timing of his return will remain to look unfortunate for him regardless.

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Obellisk
12/12/22 10:42:16 AM
#294:


Corrik7 posted...
Dude was town af


to you, perhaps even to me, and maybe even Han. but BCT... Lord of the "I'm new" excuses?

(I'm responding to you knowing full well bct as responded to my request for supporting evidence, I just haven't read his posts yet)

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Obellisk
12/12/22 10:43:02 AM
#295:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
So Sbell doesn't want to look at Isquen or Scare


I didn't say that either. But there is lots of room in my mouth for your words too, so fill me up.

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TheSultanOfSlam
12/12/22 10:44:30 AM
#296:


Obellisk posted...
I didn't say that either. But there is lots of room in my mouth for your words too, so fill me up.

I was just confused I got clarification now you're fine

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BlueCrystalTear
12/12/22 10:46:04 AM
#297:


htaeD posted...
(Though the answer here is kinda obvious BCT!)
Yeah, "Lea is scum." That's obvious.

And the timing of his return will remain to look unfortunate for him regardless.
My apologies. I returned because I went in to topic 1 to see that I was modkilled and was pleasantly surprised that I wasn't. I don't understand how that could be a "scummon" because if I were scum, I'd have known already if I'd been modkilled from my teammates. Thus, I cannot be scum by this logic. And I can assure you I am not acting here.

Obellisk posted...
BCT... Lord of the "I'm new" excuses?
Am I making those excuses now?

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Obellisk
12/12/22 10:46:25 AM
#298:


:grumble grumble: effing pineapple vendor giving me grief :grumble:

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Obellisk
12/12/22 10:47:11 AM
#299:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Am I making those excuses now?


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Seriously though, it doesn't matter what I post, I am ALWAYS suspected D1 because of my first game back, when I was actually scum.

I've been town each time since then. For fuck's sake, people. How do some of you get away with never being suspected D1?


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MZero
12/12/22 10:48:16 AM
#300:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
I can definitely see a Lea/MZero team trying to push my mislynch, because scum believes they'll benefit from that. That makes the most sense to me right now. This is why Lea's "theory" was to blame me for Lopen dying, when I'd already said Lopen was town from giving off the same vibe he did on the last day of last game. He and I teamed up to figure out the last two scum because we recognized each other as town after both having an epiphany. I looked for nuances in his language and found them to be the same as last time. I would NEVER EVER have shot Lopen in that circumstance - again, if I was dayvig, I'd have waited until D2, and even then Lopen would've been one of the LAST people I'd have shot. Better to get night killed before using it than to use it wrong.

Here are a few posts that make me think Lopen is town (even though he suspected me):

If Lea is scum trying to "push your mislynch" that would mean she's calling you scum, but you just gave reasons why you wouldn't shoot Lopen as town dayvig. If she was calling you town dayvig, she wouldn't be trying to lynch you, and if your scum none of what you said about Lopen being town matters

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