Current Events > Realpolitick nuked. (continued)

(+) Yeah! (+)

I saw it. Will look in a moment

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If the existence of LGBT characters is now considered political, it would have been off-topic.

GiggetySplicer posted...

That's a very scary precedent if true. Not to mention, politics involving the publisher brand itself should still be allowed. The Activision merger is political and discussable.
There's also currently a "do you love your country" topic on the PS5 board whose premise inevitably sparks political discussion.

I'm sure it will be fine. As we can see, this has all been meticulously thought out and there are absolutely no flaws what-so-ever with randomly and suddenly shutting down political talk.

Vigero posted...

Didn't know I was required to be on stand by 24/7 for everybody's replies. I'll reply at the pace of when I want to do so. Not like it's gonna matter anyway because they'll keep spamming variations of their 'but our board didn't suck it was the evil republicans and nazis and blah blah blah!' narrative anyway.

Okay, now here's the thing - let's pretend there this group of noble intellectuals having all these little insightful conversations on 261

What exactly was the ratio of them compared to the constant trolling, dogpiling, and just general shitty behavior from the rest of the board?

And if it's all just this big misunderstanding, how come others since 261's closing have also come forward on this board and also said 'yeah that was a pretty bad place'?

If the board truly was a quality place to be, its reputation should be able to speak for itself. But the only people who seem to be claiming it wasn't a bad place are the diehard 261 regulars who are trying to paint it in a positive light now that the board is gone. And 261 has always been regarded by people outside of that refuse to be a negative place.

So youre saying Im a diehard 261 regular?
You want to stick with that?

Politics was already off-topic on game and system boards. But the definition of politics may have changed. Even though topics about LGBT characters were allowed in the past, if they now meet Fandom's particular definition of politics they would be off-topic.

Whereas those other topics you mentioned might not be considered political by Fandom

The only reason 261 was a nightmare was trolls trying to rile up people.

It was also a place I could be accepted for being transgender, since I don't get support from my family.

DementedDurian posted...

The only reason 261 was a nightmare was trolls trying to rile up people.

It was also a place I could be accepted for being transgender, since I don't get support from my family.

And now all the trolls have moved here, so all the people going thank god 261 was nuked, it was so toxic are in for a fun time.

GranolaPanic posted...

Those discussion of politics sticky topics on console boards did nothing to stop the amount of political topics that appeared and still do since their creation.

Look at boards for MK1 and SF6. Theres topics complaining about the games being woke and having forced diversity that havent been deleted.

But depending on how Fandom defines politics, opposition to wokeness or forced diversity could be considered an opposition to politics, consistent with their terms.

And if they treated anti-woke or anti-diversity topics as equally political, they might have to acknowledge that their policy against politics is itself a political position.

I wonder if this community board should be allowed under these new rules.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1468-everything-is-banned-here

Will this topic reach 500?

maybe?

WTGHookshot posted...

Will this topic reach 500?

quick, someone argue with me! That usually seems to work

WTGHookshot posted...

If you think 261 was a "warped, cultist type of bad place," then you haven't been to places like resetera, that Tails subreddit talking about GameFAQs 261 posters, NeoGAF, 4chan, 8chan, etc. 261 was very tame with varying viewpoints compared to those places.

All of those places are terrible but the difference is that either the whole site is like that or the forum is extremely niche.

I just don't even visit NeoGAF, ResetEra, or chans.

Tails subreddit is trivial enough to be ignored

261 was the Politics section of a broader website. It had no right to be so much worse than the rest of the forum.

261 should have had some warning before it got nuked.

GranolaPanic posted...

Those discussion of politics sticky topics on console boards did nothing to stop the amount of political topics that appeared and still do since their creation.

Look at boards for MK1 and SF6. Theres topics complaining about the games being woke and having forced diversity that havent been deleted.

Opinions of the mods being inconsistent is an age old criticism going back over two decades. When you have rules open to interpretation that is always going to be the case to be fair.

Hoodroar posted...

It had no right to be so much worse than the rest of the forum.

It wasn't. You're just salty you got called out when you tried to post and reply with your usual attitude.

Strand posted...

But depending on how Fandom defines politics, opposition to wokeness or forced diversity could be considered an opposition to politics, consistent with their terms.

And if they treated anti-woke or anti-diversity topics as equally political, they might have to acknowledge that their policy against politics is itself a political position.

I am not trolling you here when I say I dont fully understand what youre getting at. Care to elaborate in more detail?

Screaming 'right wing!' doesn't disprove the cultist assertion btw. That's one of the reasons that community earns that label.

Vigero posted...

Screaming 'right wing!' doesn't disprove the cultist assertion btw. That's one of the reasons that community earns that label.

You had a history, so of course youre celebrating the boards closure. Like clockwork.

STEROLIZER posted...

I am not trolling you here when I say I dont fully understand what youre getting at. Care to elaborate in more detail?

We might hit 500 before I get an answer but it sounds like your saying

Since everything in the world is political. Then every action we take is also political in nature. Therefore there cant be a no politics stance because every single action can be interpreted as political with the right spin?

Ibe heard that before, and I dont really agree with it.

You could go to Starbucks and enjoy a cofeee, then choose to disgard your cup in the non-recyclable cup in the recycling bin just because the trash is fullthen go about your day, carefree, without a greater thought going into the actions that just occurred.

Or, you could go to Starbucks and order a coffee because their beans come from organic farms that use certified government appointed labor that helps finance impoverished families in South America, and then you could choose to put your cup into the Recycling bin instead of the trash as a statement against the states mishandling of taxpayer real sources that are supposedly going to optimize trash pickup to ensure the cans never overfill to the streets.

Yea sure, everything CAN be politicalbut bai golly manit sure does takes a lot of added effort to make it so.

What I mean by that is, in my examples both people spent the same amount of time and physical effort completing the same exact action. The only difference being that in order to make that everyday mundane sequence political I had to connect a bunch of wild invisible dots, and basically write some fan fiction.

Meanwhile, a person could just go to a presidential rally and hold up a MAGA sign. That action is political no matter how you slice it. Theres no extra effort to frame it as such.

In a nutshell, dont overthink it.

STEROLIZER posted...

We might hit 500 before I get an answer but it sounds like your saying

Since everything in the world is political. Then every action we take is also political in nature. Therefore there cant be a no politics stance because every single action can be interpreted as political with the right spin?

Ibe heard that before, and I dont really agree with it.

It's not about every action, but about whether the no-politics stance itself is political. Are topics against "forced diversity" not political because they oppose politics in gaming?

No matter how you handle situations like that, it creates issues. That makes the no-politics stance political in practice.

Vigero posted...

Screaming 'right wing!' doesn't disprove the cultist assertion btw. That's one of the reasons that community earns that label.

Thank god nobody ever just screams RIGHT WING. Usually its people debunking the dumb bullshit people like you are saying, while also mentioning youre clearly a right wing troll or worse, a true believer. Then you only read two words and ignore the rest because then you dont have to have an actual argument.

Vigero posted...

Screaming 'right wing!' doesn't disprove the cultist assertion btw. That's one of the reasons that community earns that label.

About your assertion, wouldn't that go double for the MAGA board?
Which was so bad and exclusive it managed to get itself nuked before the takeover?

Vigero posted...

Screaming 'right wing!' doesn't disprove the cultist assertion btw. That's one of the reasons that community earns that label.

Do you still deny the election results?

STEROLIZER posted...
We might hit 500 before I get an answer but it sounds like your saying

Since everything in the world is political. Then every action we take is also political in nature. Therefore there cant be a no politics stance because every single action can be interpreted as political with the right spin?

Ibe heard that before, and I dont really agree with it.

Note, this guy is part of the crew mass mailing DToast with the subreddit sewage system.

Keep it in the reddit sub.

Just letting people know since he's trying to come off as pro-politics board, which is not the case.

Hoodroar posted...

All of those places are terrible but the difference is that either the whole site is like that or the forum is extremely niche.

I just don't even visit NeoGAF, ResetEra, or chans.

Tails subreddit is trivial enough to be ignored

261 was the Politics section of a broader website. It had no right to be so much worse than the rest of the forum.

...have you been on the rest of the forum?

I can't state that every single board was as bad as 261, but the console boards, definitely certain game boards (like anything Zelda, anything Sonic, anything Final Fantasy-related), and a number of other community/special interest boards are as bad, if not worse, than 261. Either you are blind to it or just don't seemingly visit those other boards.

WTGHookshot posted...

...have you been on the rest of the forum?

I can't state that every single board was as bad as 261, but the console boards, definitely certain game boards (like anything Zelda, anything Sonic, anything Final Fantasy-related), and a number of other community/special interest boards are as bad, if not worse, than 261. Either you are blind to it or just don't seemingly visit those other boards.

Quit spewing sewage

STEROLIZER posted...

We might hit 500 before I get an answer but it sounds like your saying

Since everything in the world is political. Then every action we take is also political in nature. Therefore there cant be a no politics stance because every single action can be interpreted as political with the right spin?

Ibe heard that before, and I dont really agree with it.

You could go to Starbucks and enjoy a cofeee, then choose to disgard your cup in the non-recyclable cup in the recycling bin just because the trash is fullthen go about your day, carefree, without a greater thought going into the actions that just occurred.

Or, you could go to Starbucks and order a coffee because their beans come from organic farms that use certified government appointed labor that helps finance impoverished families in South America, and then you could choose to put your cup into the Recycling bin instead of the trash as a statement against the states mishandling of taxpayer real sources that are supposedly going to optimize trash pickup to ensure the cans never overfill to the streets.

Yea sure, everything CAN be politicalbut bai golly manit sure does takes a lot of added effort to make it so.

What I mean by that is, in my examples both people spent the same amount of time and physical effort completing the same exact action. The only difference being that in order to make that everyday mundane sequence political I had to connect a bunch of wild invisible dots, and basically write some fan fiction.

Meanwhile, a person could just go to a presidential rally and hold up a MAGA sign. That action is political no matter how you slice it. Theres no extra effort to frame it as such.

In a nutshell, dont overthink it.

In both of your examples, the political ramifications of the action you describe are the same. The person in the first case is supporting organic farming and recycling to exactly the same extent as the second.

The only difference is the level of realisation. Which does not impact the outcome.

So yes, people can go through life thinking 'none of this is political'. But they would be wrong.

greenjeans posted...

Quit spewing sewage

Why do I feel like you are just trying to pick a fight in order for this topic posts to increase enough for it to get closed?

WTGHookshot posted...

Why do I feel like you are just trying to pick a fight in order for this topic posts to increase enough for it to get closed?

I could say the same about you

WTGHookshot posted...

Why do I feel like you are just trying to pick a fight in order for this topic posts to increase enough for it to get closed?

Someone will just make a third topic

Eventually it'll become "Fandom Nukes General"

BunkerBoy posted...

Someone will just make a third topic

Eventually it'll become "Fandom Nukes General"

If it lasts until December we'll eventually have a "Fandom Nuclear Winter" topic and that would be kinda cool.

Patrolling the FAQs boards almost makes one wish for a nuclear winter.

ANort175 posted...

If it lasts until December we'll eventually have a "Fandom Nuclear Winter" topic and that would be kinda cool.

The topic? I don't think this board itself will last until December, let alone the topic itself (unless it transitions to a different board and picked up there).

GranolaPanic posted...

You keep misrepresenting what happened on that board because you clearly have a personal vendetta against it and wont even try to be impartial.

The board did have an obvious left wing bias to it. But it didnt mean that all conservative or right wing opinions were shunned. The board was willing to discuss them in a respectful way so long as the poster wasnt trying to incite and instigate.

Thats a lie and you know it.

Heineken14 posted...

I'm sure it will be fine. As we can see, this has all been meticulously thought out and there are absolutely no flaws what-so-ever with randomly and suddenly shutting down political talk.

I agree. Opposing politics or wokeness sounds simple, until you realize you have to define those terms without introducing your own political biases. And leaving the definitions vague doesn't actually solve the issue, since it just allows bias in how people interpret and enforce those policies.

vycebrand2 posted...

Thats a lie and you know it.

Right wing opinions being unpopular and subsequently dog piled isnt the same as being unable to express them at all

Not the TOS' fault a lot of those "opinions" were downright racist/trans and homophobic

get better opinions

vycebrand2 posted...

Thats a lie and you know it.

Literally all you do is lie, don't project your failings onto other people, E-I-E-I-O.

BeantownHero posted...

Right wing opinions being unpopular and subsequently dog piled isnt the same as being unable to express them at all

Not the TOS' fault a lot of those "opinions" were downright racist/trans and homophobic

get better opinions

Is it defamation or a right wing opinion if a moderator misreads a post as support for January 6?

Sounds like every political discussion on the entire GameFAQs site is banned.

inb4: "Mods will hack into your PMs and deletes them."

Meh. Another day another dollar.