Current Events > Realpolitick nuked. (continued)

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Vigero posted...

Cults are a real thing, folks.

yep and the irony of your post is palpable lmao

Vigero posted...

Cults are a real thing, folks.

Indeed they are. Lot of the right wing cult of Donnie are the toxic people that posted on 261.

Vigero posted...

Cults are a real thing, folks.

Then quit?

Vigero posted...

You know...if you want to disprove the notion that people on 261 were an echo chamber that reflexively foamed at the mouth about people being far right and whatever...you don't disprove that notion by immediately proceeding to make posts moaning about far right users and blah blah blah.

Way to be that self-fulfilling prophecy proving the point people were making about you.

Did 261 have a more liberal/progressive slant? Sure, I won't deny that.

But as someone who isn't a liberal/progressive nor a conservative, I fared on there fine for years. It was far from an echo chamber. Most of the people that were banned/suspended/warned were done so rightfully, considering the messages they were espousing and how they align with the TOS.

That said, I do agree there were some posters who were let off a little bit too leniently for some of their posts. That doesn't mean it was an echo chamber, though.

You want to see echo chambers? Visit places like NeoGAF, resetera, 4chan, and others.

The subject matter of politics aside, it was one of the better/best boards on the site hands down in terms of quality discussion, and overall a great resource for keeping current. Ive not seen anyone denigrating the politics board who didnt also have some problematic beliefs related to the subject matter, with an inability to effectively communicate said beliefs without getting shutdown.

as someone who posted on 261 for years and has posted on ce for longer, 261 was definitely much more tame and had far less craziness and far far less questionable to downright fucked up users. there were trolls on 261 like any community of a certain size will have, but not to the extent ce does. there definitely wasn't anyone as openly deplorable as a hoth or rod that stalked the place.

andel posted...

as someone who posted on 261 for years and has posted on ce for longer, 261 was definitely much more tame and had far less craziness and far far less questionable to downright fucked up users. there were trolls on 261 like any community of a certain size will have, but not to the extent ce does. there definitely wasn't anyone as openly deplorable as a hoth or rod that stalked the place.

Mix did before the karma limit was raised.

CSCA33 posted...

The subject matter of politics aside, it was one of the better/best boards on the site hands down in terms of quality discussion, and overall a great resource for keeping current. Ive not seen anyone denigrating the politics board who didnt also have some problematic beliefs related to the subject matter, with an inability to effectively communicate said beliefs without getting shutdown.

I will agree with this.

My main reason for coming to GameFAQs boards in the first place is for information and news, as people feel passionately about these topics and post links to articles, videos, etc. I usually try to avoid topics that are purely discussion pieces without including some relevant sourced news. 261 was at least good for that. It maybe had some passionate political enthusiasts on various lengths of the spectrum, but because of that passion, they always usually provided links to articles, Tweets, videos, and other general information out there, serving as a compilation of news without having to go looking yourself.

16-BITTER posted...

Even hellholes can always get worse

I mean, yeah, CE has always been a problematic board for sure. But more of a...how do I put this...what you kinda expect from the usual places on the internet kind of bad. Like the usual dumb kind of shitposting places you see.

261 was more of a warped, cultist type of bad place which is why its reputation is bit more distinct in that regard.

261 was very much the antithesis of a safe space echo chamber.

WTGHookshot posted...

I will agree with this.

My main reason for coming to GameFAQs boards in the first place is for information and news, as people feel passionately about these topics and post links to articles, videos, etc. I usually try to avoid topics that are purely discussion pieces without including some relevant sourced news. 261 was at least good for that. It maybe had some passionate political enthusiasts on various lengths of the spectrum, but because of that passion, they always usually provided links to articles, Tweets, videos, and other general information out there, serving as a compilation of news without having to go looking yourself.

Yeah! I really liked that about it.

ForsakenHermit posted...

Mix did before the karma limit was raised.

yeah, people like interwebuser and smal were/are demented individuals, but places like ce or even lue will have some of those also. it is unavoidable if you have a public forum on the internet.

ForsakenHermit posted...

Mix did before the karma limit was raised.

Raising karma limits was never gonna solve those issues because of a lot the problematic, extremist, dogpiling, antagonistic people were high level user accounts.

You still had that element of people making alts to troll and all that shit, but that was never the entirety of the trolling problems.

Vigero posted...

I mean, yeah, CE has always been a problematic board for sure. But more of a...how do I put this...what you kinda expect from the usual places on the internet kind of bad. Like the usual dumb kind of shitposting places you see.

261 was more of a warped, cultist type of bad place which is why its reputation is bit more distinct in that regard.

If you think 261 was a "warped, cultist type of bad place," then you haven't been to places like resetera, that Tails subreddit talking about GameFAQs 261 posters, NeoGAF, 4chan, 8chan, etc. 261 was very tame with varying viewpoints compared to those places.

Vigero posted...

I want you to defend the merits of 261 without mentioning anything having to do with people being conservative/right wing/Trump/Nazi or any variations of that sort.

You are wholly incapable of doing so, aren't you? Of course you are.

There was often useful discussion about current political events among longtime users. People were pretty on the ball about posting news, to the point you could get a pretty good overview of anything happening politically by skimming the board. There were a few knowledgeable posters who had interesting insights. You could gather some info you might not have otherwise from people more dedicated (or obsessive, whatever) to following politics.

Good enough for you?

problem posters on a smaller, harder-to-find forum are never as big a problem as problem posters on the forums at the front of a site. if anything, it's likely that they ended up in the smaller pool because they couldn't last out in the light.

Also, can y'all stop talking about Tails? Nobody would even care about this random troll wannabe if y'all would stop bringing him up all the time.

And, sure, there's definitely other twisted places on the internet like ResetEra. Doesn't change that 261 was still a bad board.

But anyway y'all do you. Just move on and find a personality trait that doesn't have to do with a board on GameFAQs.

Vigero posted...

Also, can y'all stop talking about Tails? Nobody would even care about this random troll wannabe if y'all would stop bringing him up all the time.

And, sure, there's definitely other twisted places on the internet like ResetEra. Doesn't change that 261 was still a bad board.

But anyway y'all do you. Just move on and find a personality trait that doesn't have to do with a board on GameFAQs.

move on says the guy whining in like 5 different topics about this one thing lol

Also, can y'all stop talking about Tails? Nobody would even care about this random troll wannabe if y'all would stop bringing him up all the time.

nobody cares about him now. it's called ridicule.

running weird defense for the guy.

(was 425 me? my AMD GPU decided to blackscreen, because AMD GPUs do that.)

Vigero: say the merits of the board without mentioning right wing blah blah

like four people: do that

vigero: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/9/8/AAGQEzAAEidC.jpg

Vigero posted...

Also, can y'all stop talking about Tails? Nobody would even care about this random troll wannabe if y'all would stop bringing him up all the time.

And, sure, there's definitely other twisted places on the internet like ResetEra. Doesn't change that 261 was still a bad board.

But anyway y'all do you. Just move on and find a personality trait that doesn't have to do with a board on GameFAQs.

The existence of worse things does not justify the existence of bad things.

Like if I bring up how someone was a mass-murderer, that doesn't excuse someone from murdering someone.

Bad things are bad, worse things are worse, and it's all undesirable.

Vigero posted...

Cults are a real thing, folks.

This is the only Cult I like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCOSPtyZAPA

GranolaPanic posted...

Will you respond to my message, Vigero? I gave a polite and reasonable defense of the board. The community wasnt without some major problems, but it wasnt the cesspool you think it was.

He can't, because he has a raging hate boner for 261 because like all right wing alts, he got called out for saying dumb shit so that makes it a toxic echo chamber board that shouldn't exist.

Meh, from what I saw while lurking, 261 had its share of posters who were only there to sling snark and insults at other users (mostly the trolls and right wing nutters), but never in such an obvious and blatant way that'd get them moderated for it, as well as folks who were blatantly playing dumb whenever they'd get called out for having their shit opinions. But even then, I wouldn't even say that it was a toxic shit hole outside of the obvious issues that come up when people discuss politics online - stubbornness, insults, and lots of topics being horribly derailed for hundreds of posts because of one person having a Bad Take and everyone needing to jump on them for said Bad Take.

This vigero guy seems super butthurt

andel posted...

there is and always has been consistency. don't post vile shit and you won't get moderated.

and political discussion isn't going anywhere on this site, just politics specific boards aren't allowed as per fandom corporate policy, which has been in place and is uniform across all the platforms they own.

Or the moderator misreads a post.

Didn't know I was required to be on stand by 24/7 for everybody's replies. I'll reply at the pace of when I want to do so. Not like it's gonna matter anyway because they'll keep spamming variations of their 'but our board didn't suck it was the evil republicans and nazis and blah blah blah!' narrative anyway.

Zonbei posted...

There was often useful discussion about current political events among longtime users. People were pretty on the ball about posting news, to the point you could get a pretty good overview of anything happening politically by skimming the board. There were a few knowledgeable posters who had interesting insights. You could gather some info you might not have otherwise from people more dedicated (or obsessive, whatever) to following politics.

Good enough for you?

Okay, now here's the thing - let's pretend there this group of noble intellectuals having all these little insightful conversations on 261

What exactly was the ratio of them compared to the constant trolling, dogpiling, and just general shitty behavior from the rest of the board?

And if it's all just this big misunderstanding, how come others since 261's closing have also come forward on this board and also said 'yeah that was a pretty bad place'?

If the board truly was a quality place to be, its reputation should be able to speak for itself. But the only people who seem to be claiming it wasn't a bad place are the diehard 261 regulars who are trying to paint it in a positive light now that the board is gone. And 261 has always been regarded by people outside of that refuse to be a negative place.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Have they been modded yet?

That's a well known troll that gets ignored by the mods. Not worth getting upset aboot

BunkerBoy posted...

This vigero guy seems super butthurt

No, he's anything but, and he'll tell you in 5 different topics how people on 261 need to go touch grass and he's super duper not obsessed and it was THEY who were toxic!

BunkerBoy posted...

This vigero guy seems super butthurt

IIRC, that is the infamous Vigrim.

Heineken14 posted...

No, he's anything but, and he'll tell you in 5 different topics how people on 261 need to go touch grass and he's super duper not obsessed and it was THEY who were toxic!

But it's okay for y'all to post in multiple topics as well as flat out create topics moaning about 261 then. 'k.

GranolaPanic posted...

And lets be honest, calling 261 toxic while posting on Current Events is ironic as you can get.

Yeah, nobody with self-awareness is calling CE a good place. There's a reason why I called 261 'a version of CE if it only focused on Politics'.

Except when you think more about it, even CE isn't quite as toxic on that same level. CE is focused on a vacuous shitposting that fits more into the garden variety of nonsense you see on the internet. 261 was a more distinct, cult like, devoted type of bad.

GranolaPanic posted...

I didnt say you had to be on standby 24/7 to respond, Vigero. Yesterday you replied to other posters and not to what I said.

Like I said, the board wasnt without a lot of problems. But as I keep trying to tell you we could have deep discussions about the subjects that I mentioned.

And for someone complaining multiple times about how I didn't address your post, you noticeably didn't address my reply to it.

Vigero posted...

Yeah, nobody with self-awareness is calling CE a good place. There's a reason why I called 261 'a version of CE if it only focused on Politics'.

Except when you think more about it, even CE isn't quite as toxic on that same level. CE is focused on a vacuous shitposting that fits more into the garden variety of nonsense you see on the internet. 261 was a more distinct, cult like, devoted type of bad.

Cult like?

brestugo posted...

IIRC, that is the infamous Vigrim.

Oh? So @vigero is the election denying, welching Trump supporter?

No wonder he's whining about the board being toxic, lmaooo

Vigero posted...

But it's okay for y'all to post in multiple topics as well as flat out create topics moaning about 261 then. 'k.

Lolol, super buttmad.

Vigero posted...

cult like

You keep saying it doesn't make it true. lol

Avirosb posted...

Cult like?

Right wing projection.