Current Events > Realpolitick nuked. (continued)

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TaylorHeinicke
06/02/23 12:46:01 AM
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The board was just taking off again, and now it is dead. DToast has claimed another board.

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06/02/23 12:46:37 AM
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TC is a real G keeping this shit fest going

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St0rmFury
06/02/23 12:54:31 AM
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I haven't read the 1st topic yet because I had no idea what is Realpolitick and then boom, it's 500.

Anyway, did Toast or Allen commented this time?

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--Zero-
06/02/23 12:55:18 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
I haven't read the 1st topic yet because I had no idea what is Realpolitick and then boom, it's 500.

Anyway, did Toast or Allen commented this time?

Dtoast did with a one word post agreeing with one of the mods.


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St0rmFury
06/02/23 12:56:01 AM
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--Zero- posted...
Dtoast did with a one word post agreeing with one of the mods.
That madlad.

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--Zero-
06/02/23 1:02:33 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
That madlad.

I found it. A lot of posters were devastated afterwards cause he didnt satisfy them lolhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/4/7/AAadlPAAEiAH.jpg

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Foppe
06/02/23 1:03:27 AM
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Remember, save your favorite FAQs, they might be next.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
06/02/23 1:13:56 AM
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Did that board warrant a 500 topic?

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Humble_Novice
06/02/23 1:14:43 AM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Did that board warrant a 500 topic?
Why wouldn't it?

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ChainsawFerret
06/02/23 1:22:07 AM
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There's a better word for what Dtoast and Fandom is doing.

They're doing an asspull. Political convos that didn't break terms are being buried, and they're using every excuse they can to get away with it.

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STEROLIZER
06/02/23 1:24:36 AM
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ChainsawFerret posted...
There's a better word for what Dtoast and Fandom is doing.

Common sense business acumen?


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ChainsawFerret
06/02/23 1:26:45 AM
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STEROLIZER posted...
Common sense business acumen?

Not really. But given the link in your sig, I doubt you'd know what good business sense really is.

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STEROLIZER
06/02/23 1:29:01 AM
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ChainsawFerret posted...
Not really. But given the link in your sig, I doubt you'd know what good business sense really is.

Is making money not common sense businesses acumen?

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Unknown5uspect
06/02/23 1:32:35 AM
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This is going to get to the point where we just cannot talk about politics anymore and that's dog shit tbh

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DnDer
06/02/23 1:33:28 AM
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ChainsawFerret posted...
Not really. But given the link in your sig, I doubt you'd know what good business sense really is.

People of his ilk are generally bad at business.

Just look at Donald Trump in all his racism and white supremacist enabling. That guy couldn't make money off a casino. Bannon got indicted over fleecing people for white supremacist nonsense like a border wall he never actually planned to build.

It's not a policy or mindset that lends itself to understanding how to make money is the best correlation I can see.

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ChainsawFerret
06/02/23 1:34:37 AM
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STEROLIZER posted...
Is making money not common sense businesses acumen?

And how is closing out any political discussion gonna do that? Then again, I don't want any advice from someone who simps for something that lost 98% of its value in less than a year (NFTs).

Getting back on topic. What purpose does it serve? Why close out political discussions?

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shnangyboos
06/02/23 1:37:31 AM
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DnDer posted...
People of his ilk are generally bad at business.

Just look at Donald Trump in all his racism and white supremacist enabling.


God you're so fucking weird.

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Unknown5uspect
06/02/23 1:38:17 AM
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ChainsawFerret posted...
Getting back on topic. What purpose does it serve? Why close out political discussions?
ItS DivIsIVe

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Thunk00
06/02/23 1:44:58 AM
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DnDer posted...
People of his ilk are generally bad at business.

Just look at Donald Trump in all his racism and white supremacist enabling. That guy couldn't make money off a casino. Bannon got indicted over fleecing people for white supremacist nonsense like a border wall he never actually planned to build.

It's not a policy or mindset that lends itself to understanding how to make money is the best correlation I can see.
If this is what passes for non-rulebreaking political discourse in 2023, perhaps we really are better off without it.
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Strand
06/02/23 1:47:32 AM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Did that board warrant a 500 topic?
It's the way this is being handled, not the boards themselves. If they clearly explained the reasons why 261 and Realpolitik were closed, then neither board would warrant this much discussion.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements/80445446

In DToast's initial announcement being political, by itself, wasn't enough to violate Fandom's terms or justify a board's closure. It was "specifically ones that violate our [Fandom's] terms of use by promoting abusive language" and DToast emphasized Fandom's values of belonging, online trust, and safety.

SBAllen later clarified that the politics focus actually was why 261 was closed. But a day after that clarification, DToast went back to the original reason. He announced on GameSpot that both 261 and Gamespot's Political Gamers board were closed due to promotion of abusive language.

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/offtopic-discussion-314159273/closure-of-political-gamers-33603133/

And most recently today, DToast said that the politics focus actually is why 261, Gamespot's Political Gamers board, and now Realpolitik were closed.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80462841?jumpto=140#140

They keep flip-flopping. So we don't know the real reason why these boards were closed, what standards are being used, and what this means for other boards. And neither SBAllen nor DToast have deleted or corrected the original announcement.

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DnDer
06/02/23 1:50:51 AM
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Thunk00 posted...
If this is what passes for non-rulebreaking political discourse in 2023, perhaps we really are better off without it.

I mean, I've got screencaps to prove it. I don't call people out over nothing or just ad hom someone.

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ChainsawFerret
06/02/23 1:53:00 AM
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It's the doublespeak from DToast that makes me believe they're just looking for any flimsy reason whatsoever. I don't buy their whole "belonging, online trust, and safety" bunk. Typical corporate doublespeak.

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Necronmon
06/02/23 1:53:01 AM
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And...its hard to not get the vibe that this is a Elon Musk kind of take over that's converting something to someone's agenda and gleefully purging " non desirables." As a site that previously was for all types is mutated into someone that fits only a select view.

Without a clear idea on what's the terms...its hard not to see it as a hostile take over.
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shnangyboos
06/02/23 1:54:26 AM
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It's a private company that can allow or not allow whatever discussion it wants. Time to move on and stop "investigating" it, either keep posting but not about politics, or go to some other forum where you can wallow and drown in political arguments.

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ChainsawFerret
06/02/23 1:55:28 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
It's a private company that can allow or not allow whatever discussion it wants. Time to move on and stop "investigating" it, either keep posting but not about politics, or go to some other forum where you can wallow and drown in political arguments.

Well, you're gonna have to make me on that one. I have no intentions of letting them control the convo.

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hockeybub89
06/02/23 1:56:05 AM
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CE will be closed before the end of the year. Book it.

Fandom sucks.

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shnangyboos
06/02/23 1:56:23 AM
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ChainsawFerret posted...
Well, you're gonna have to make me on that one. I have no intentions of letting them control the convo.


Oh you fucking don't take no shit beast.

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Kaiganeer
06/02/23 1:57:49 AM
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if the site doesn't allow for politics-specific boards, maybe pack up and find a different site instead of whining about it
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Strand
06/02/23 1:57:56 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
It's a private company that can allow or not allow whatever discussion it wants. Time to move on and stop "investigating" it, either keep posting but not about politics, or go to some other forum where you can wallow and drown in political arguments.
But we don't know whether politics boards are actually banned. They keep flip-flopping on that point.

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ForsakenHermit
06/02/23 1:58:43 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
CE will be closed before the end of the year. Book it.

Fandom sucks.
I'll be shocked if the news board is still open in 2024.

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Kradek
06/02/23 2:05:07 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


It's not like it only happened to this board. Seeing as how it's a policy for every site they acquire it's not crazy to think they're doing it to stifle any sort of dissenting opinion differing from their personal views.

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ForsakenHermit
06/02/23 2:05:31 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

False equivalency detected. Nobody here is accusing Dtoast of running an abortion clinic in the basement of a New Orleans Indian restaurant.

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ForsakenHermit
06/02/23 2:10:57 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

They keep wafling on political discussion per se by brining up concepts like abusive language.

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Kradek
06/02/23 2:15:02 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


I intentionally didn't push it one way or the other, but even if the politics board was "only liberals and right-wing trolls", as often characterized, then it objectively helps them more because the only right-wingers there were just trolls anyways save for like 2.

And stifling the dissenting opinion while also stifling your own's side still helps quell the counternarrative from existing. That in itself is a boon because the mainstream media already boosts the right-wing narrative for free.

And assuming that Fandom are right-winged as you say they are, that ideology absolutely stifles and hurts its own side like all the time, because they know the people with that ideology won't blame them and will somehow make liberals or immigrants responsible for the loss of their voice.

As for the second part, it's the first time I've been one that had it and took it away. Obviously there are sites where no Politics board exists, I just assume they never had one if I don't know the site's history well.

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Strand
06/02/23 2:15:41 AM
#38:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

If they've banned political discussion boards, they should correct the official announcement to reflect that policy. They shouldn't keep flip-flopping on that point.

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Kradek
06/02/23 2:17:38 AM
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That was a typo, I actually meant as you say they are. My bad. Thanks for catching it.

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ChainsawFerret
06/02/23 2:24:24 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


So send someone who can explain it. Most of the people on these forums are longtimers who have been here an age. Instead of tiptoeing around the issue or treating people like a bunch of kindergartners, send someone who can explain it without any nonsense or bunk. And MAYBE, just MAYBE, keep the lawyers or whoever is playing Telephone with you out of the conversation.

There's the solution if any of them are listening. No nonsense, no bunk.

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ArsGoetia
06/02/23 2:25:31 AM
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should ban all discussion not about video games imo
this is a gaming websight
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ForsakenHermit
06/02/23 2:26:29 AM
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ArsGoetia posted...
should ban all discussion not about video games imo
this is a gaming websight
Hi, Pete!

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ArsGoetia
06/02/23 2:27:14 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Hi, Pete!

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Strand
06/02/23 2:27:15 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Then instead of relying on DToast, Allen himself should make the official announcement to clarify the policy.

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Kradek
06/02/23 2:28:27 AM
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I'm not talking about any conspiracy involving this board or Reddit, I'm talking about how it's their official policy for all of their sites, or at least that's what I've seen said. If that's the case then yeah it's not hard to believe if you think about a Trumper buying a bunch of websites and then closing political boards down because there's no real chance of luring Trumpers to the board in significant numbers, so better to just silence as many liberals as you can.

But yes, DToast is also absolutely atrocious at explaining this and has been extremely incompetent as ambassador/representative of them.

As another poster pointed out in another thread, both Toast and Allen have made contradictory statements without correcting or deleting their initial statement. It's like a shitfest orchestrated by dung beetles, though I guess dung beetles would probably be more organized and consistent.

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STEROLIZER
06/02/23 2:37:08 AM
#50:


ChainsawFerret posted...
And how is closing out any political discussion gonna do that? Then again, I don't want any advice from someone who simps for something that lost 98% of its value in less than a year (NFTs).


Made me rich. Gotta know when to hold em & when to fold em



Getting back on topic. What purpose does it serve? Why close out political discussions?

To make the site friendly, and welcoming to new users. While also reengaging all the old users that left the platform because it got too angry & introverted.

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