Current Events > Realpolitick nuked. (continued)

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CSCA33
06/03/23 10:57:42 AM
#354:


Revelation34 posted...
Sounds legit.
Yeah, theyre a respected user on the boards.

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vycebrand2
06/03/23 11:50:37 AM
#355:


HornyLevel posted...
This sounds like unsubstantiated cope.

HornyLevel posted...
Lol, I post only on CE and never posted there.

Everything you're saying just further proves my point. Straight to unsubstantiated accusations.
They always go to paranoia. Right-wingers are behind tree. I once compared my right leaning views to a supposed left leaning member of the board and do you know what his answer was? He has those same views. So lets put that introspective. There are 2 boxes, you correct anyone at all on one side just once and you are put in the other box. They don't want any push back at all. Well they have a place now where they can do that to their hearts content. Humble's Reddit. They can even moderate it them selves. And unless something comes to the Reddit Admins attention. They can do control it better there

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Strand
06/03/23 11:51:57 AM
#356:


Revelation34 posted...
https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Hub:Politics

Most of those wikis don't violate their community guidelines. They're wikis about politics, but they're not "Wikis whose main purpose is to represent a political party, advocate for or against a political ideology, or generally opine regarding political issues."

The only exceptions I can see among the top wikis are Left Space and the SF Homeless Resource wikis, which have been closed, and the Ron Paul Grassroots and Freedom Democrats wikis, both of which promote libertarianism and are still open.

https://ronpaul.fandom.com/wiki/User_talk:Mr_Taz
https://freedomdemocrats.fandom.com/wiki/User_talk:Mr_Taz

Members of FANDOM's Community Support team commented on those wikis, but didn't flag them as violating their terms of use. Do they have an exception for libertarianism?


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TicketOak
06/03/23 1:50:09 PM
#357:


Strand posted...
Most of those wikis don't violate their community guidelines. They're wikis about politics, but they're not "Wikis whose main purpose is to represent a political party, advocate for or against a political ideology, or generally opine regarding political issues."

The only exceptions I can see among the top wikis are Left Space, Communpedia, and the SF Homeless Resource wikis, which have been closed, and the Ron Paul Grassroots and Freedom Democrats wikis, both of which promote libertarianism and are still open.

https://ronpaul.fandom.com/wiki/User_talk:Mr_Taz
https://freedomdemocrats.fandom.com/wiki/User_talk:Mr_Taz

Members of FANDOM's Community Support team commented on those wikis, but didn't flag them as violating their terms of use. Do they have an exception for libertarianism?

...how much of your personal free time have you spent researching this?

You might seriously benefit from taking a short break from the internet at this rate. Holy hell.

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AndreLeGeant
06/03/23 1:53:05 PM
#358:


CSCA33 posted...
There were multiple lawyers, one of which worked in the civil rights division of the dept of justice.
I can promise I'm the only antitrust attorney around (because no one ever posts about it...)

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ArsGoetia
06/03/23 1:56:12 PM
#359:


Zonbei posted...
Lmao. They didnt mod me for calling someone a potato because its an obscure slur by accident. They told me why when they did it, and it wasnt that. Cannot believe thats what you were trying to imply.

wait hold up
you actually called someone a potato and got modded for it?
i was just fuckin around (not about rl stuff tho, that shits for real) and thought you were being dramatic. never thought you were serious
my bad
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projektpete
06/03/23 1:57:47 PM
#360:


AndreLeGeant posted...
I can promise I'm the only antitrust attorney around (because no one ever posts about it...)

Aren't you the same guy Hulk Hogan bodyslammed and then dropped the big leg on at the Pontiac Silverdome back in the 80s though?

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Strand
06/03/23 2:05:55 PM
#361:


TicketOak posted...
...how much of your personal free time have you spent researching this?

You might seriously benefit from taking a short break from the internet at this rate. Holy hell.
It only took a few minutes. I just had to check the top political wikis from that link. Based on their names, only five clearly promoted a particular ideology. And the three left-leaning ones were already closed.

For the two that were still open, I just checked their most recently edited pages to confirm whether they actually promoted libertarianism. I didn't expect to also find that Fandom's Community Support staff was already aware of those wikis. So ignorance doesn't work as an excuse.

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sull56ivan2010
06/03/23 2:06:24 PM
#362:


Revelation34 posted...
The Blacklist isn't a political board. It use to be before a new community moderator took over and renamed it.

It still delves into politics here and there.. Not sure it would be on the chopping block by admin, but could see it getting removed from the site.

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Zonbei
06/03/23 3:24:38 PM
#363:


ArsGoetia posted...
wait hold up
you actually called someone a potato and got modded for it?
i was just fuckin around (not about rl stuff tho, that shits for real) and thought you were being dramatic. never thought you were serious
my bad

Yes, that actually happened. I kept getting modded for calling people increasingly silly things, starting with idiot and ending with I cant call you what I want to without being modded. (Predictably, modded.) In the middle there was fencepost and potato. All of them got modded. I mostly find the whole thing funny but its pretty ridiculous.

But I have learned you can tell people to shut the fuck up all you want, as long as you dont insult them in any way, even nonsensically.

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ooger
06/03/23 6:02:06 PM
#364:


vycebrand2 posted...
They always go to paranoia. Right-wingers are behind tree. I once compared my right leaning views to a supposed left leaning member of the board and do you know what his answer was? He has those same views. So lets put that introspective. There are 2 boxes, you correct anyone at all on one side just once and you are put in the other box. They don't want any push back at all. Well they have a place now where they can do that to their hearts content. Humble's Reddit. They can even moderate it them selves. And unless something comes to the Reddit Admins attention. They can do control it better there
You're proud that you harassed humble so much that he blocked you.

We get it.

E-i-e-i-o.

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DnDer
06/03/23 8:00:23 PM
#365:


Zonbei posted...
But I have learned you can tell people to shut the f*** up all you want, as long as you dont insult them in any way, even nonsensically.

I can personally vouch that even if you can tell someone to shut the fuck up, you can't tell them to fuck off. That's apparently abusive.

Even though you spend paragraphs debunking their two sentence gish gallops and tell them to fuck off with their bad logic and arguments as a throwaway sentence in the middle of it.

The inconsistency in modding was always wild.

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Zonbei
06/03/23 8:01:42 PM
#366:


DnDer posted...
I can personally vouch that even if you can tell someone to shut the fuck up, you can't tell them to fuck off. That's apparently abusive.

Even though you spend paragraphs debunking their two sentence gish gallops and tell them to fuck off with their bad logic and arguments as a throwaway sentence in the middle of it.

The inconsistency in modding was always wild.

Weird, because I tell people to fuck off all the time. The inconsistency is in fact completely insane.


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andel
06/03/23 8:28:45 PM
#367:


ce has always had political discussions and 261 users are definitely welcome to create topics here that would normally have been posted on 261. many of the same kinds of topics were already active in both communities.

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andel
06/03/23 9:10:42 PM
#368:


after reading the first topic i think some people are being kinda ridiculous. dtoast obviously doesn't have some right wing agenda, if he did he wouldn't have approved of changing the rules to rightly call out fascist and nazi behavior that exists among trump supporters and desantis and some of his supporters. it is ridiculous to think the guy has some hidden right wing agenda when he makes positive changes like that that the cultist types are so bent about.

261 closing was bullshit but it wasn't because of 261 specifically, they also closed politicial boards on gamespot and apparently have had a company wide policy to that effect predating them owning gamefaqs

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ForsakenHermit
06/03/23 9:14:57 PM
#369:


DToast probably isn't a right wing extremist but the admins haven't been fully honest with the closure of 261. They flip-flop on if political boards or abusive language is the real problem that they are addressing.

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andel
06/03/23 9:16:19 PM
#370:


ForsakenHermit posted...
DToast probably isn't a right wing extremist but the admins haven't been fully honest with the closure of 261. They flip-flop on if political boards or abusive language is the real problem that they are addressing.

the real reason was the follow up sballen gave about the fandom policy, which is why other political boards are being closed and political boards on other sites they own are also being closed.

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vycebrand2
06/03/23 9:47:11 PM
#371:


ooger posted...
You're proud that you harassed humble so much that he blocked you.

We get it.

E-i-e-i-o.
Go back to your cave Booger

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ooger
06/03/23 9:57:56 PM
#372:


I thought you were all about anti-bullying?

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ForsakenHermit
06/03/23 10:00:53 PM
#373:


ooger posted...
I thought you were all about anti-bullying?
Maybe he is in the Ryback way.

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vycebrand2
06/03/23 10:15:29 PM
#374:


ooger posted...
I thought you were all about anti-bullying?
Your bullying

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ooger
06/03/23 10:19:58 PM
#375:


My bullying?

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vycebrand2
06/03/23 10:46:53 PM
#376:


Yes, your bullying. In the Blacklist that's all you do. You even did it to Rag who took a hiatus there because crap you gave him.
You have bullied every single visitor there except a few. It's shameful. Its a open community board that's only purpose to be your own personal playground

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clinthoward666
06/04/23 10:23:54 AM
#377:


the Gamefaqs moderators are single-handedly the most inept, petty, childish group of chuckleheads Ive ever had the displeasure of encountering online. So you dont want to actually, you know, moderate? So instead, you just nuke an entire board rather than do your job? Just incredible. You guys are pathetic.

And watch, even though Im not breaking any TOS, Ill get banned or suspended for attacking them. Thats the kind of people were dealing with here. Incapable of taking any sort of criticism, despite putting themselves in a position of power. Its really something

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ArsGoetia
06/04/23 10:25:52 AM
#378:


clinthoward666 posted...
the Gamefaqs moderators are single-handedly the most inept, petty, childish group of chuckleheads Ive ever had the displeasure of encountering online. So you dont want to actually, you know, moderate? So instead, you just nuke an entire board rather than do your job? Just incredible. You guys are pathetic.

And watch, even though Im not breaking any TOS, Ill get banned or suspended for attacking them. Thats the kind of people were dealing with here. Incapable of taking any sort of criticism, despite putting themselves in a position of power. Its really something

shut the fuck up
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St0rmFury
06/04/23 10:26:02 AM
#379:


clinthoward666 posted...
the Gamefaqs moderators are single-handedly the most inept, petty, childish group of chuckleheads Ive ever had the displeasure of encountering online. So you dont want to actually, you know, moderate? So instead, you just nuke an entire board rather than do your job? Just incredible. You guys are pathetic.

And watch, even though Im not breaking any TOS, Ill get banned or suspended for attacking them. Thats the kind of people were dealing with here. Incapable of taking any sort of criticism, despite putting themselves in a position of power. Its really something
Dude, why are you directing your anger towards the people who has no control over if a board gets nuked or not?

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Crimsoness
06/04/23 10:26:31 AM
#380:


The mods didn't close the politics board you dingus

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Foppe
06/04/23 10:31:24 AM
#381:


Is that Tails alt?

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Fluttershy
06/04/23 10:39:16 AM
#382:


a position of power

yeah that's what i think of when i think 'forum moderator' lmao

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Error1355
06/04/23 10:50:33 AM
#383:


clinthoward666 posted...
the Gamefaqs moderators are single-handedly the most inept, petty, childish group of chuckleheads Ive ever had the displeasure of encountering online. So you dont want to actually, you know, moderate? So instead, you just nuke an entire board rather than do your job? Just incredible. You guys are pathetic.

And watch, even though Im not breaking any TOS, Ill get banned or suspended for attacking them. Thats the kind of people were dealing with here. Incapable of taking any sort of criticism, despite putting themselves in a position of power. Its really something
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/4/0/AADAKwAAEiak.png

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NoSite4OldCEmen
06/04/23 11:38:03 AM
#384:


Fluttershy posted...
a position of power

yeah that's what i think of when i think 'forum moderator' lmao

With mild powers comes mild responsibility

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MC_BatCommander
06/04/23 1:53:32 PM
#385:


clinthoward666 posted...
the Gamefaqs moderators are single-handedly the most inept, petty, childish group of chuckleheads Ive ever had the displeasure of encountering online. So you dont want to actually, you know, moderate? So instead, you just nuke an entire board rather than do your job? Just incredible. You guys are pathetic.

And watch, even though Im not breaking any TOS, Ill get banned or suspended for attacking them. Thats the kind of people were dealing with here. Incapable of taking any sort of criticism, despite putting themselves in a position of power. Its really something

Now that hurt my feelings

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Vigero
06/04/23 1:55:38 PM
#386:


Hate to agree with that guy, but yeah, the Politics board was historically poorly moderated to anybody that posted there a decent amount of time to notice that.

And if Politics related messages aren't going to have any consistency enforced in regards to what is and isn't moderation worthy, then it's just for the best to do away with Political discussion since both the userbase and the staff aren't in a state to deal with it.
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Foppe
06/04/23 1:59:19 PM
#387:


Even if it had been better moderated, it would still have been nuked.
Why cant some people understand this?

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Vigero
06/04/23 2:00:55 PM
#388:


Oh, no even if the board was moderated worth a crap it still wouldn't solved all the problems with that community.
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Zonbei
06/04/23 2:17:50 PM
#389:


clinthoward666 posted...
the Gamefaqs moderators are single-handedly the most inept, petty, childish group of chuckleheads Ive ever had the displeasure of encountering online. So you dont want to actually, you know, moderate? So instead, you just nuke an entire board rather than do your job? Just incredible. You guys are pathetic.

And watch, even though Im not breaking any TOS, Ill get banned or suspended for attacking them. Thats the kind of people were dealing with here. Incapable of taking any sort of criticism, despite putting themselves in a position of power. Its really something

The moderators didnt have any part of the decision to nuke the board.

That said, some of the moderators are in fact acting petty and childish, but thats just their posts about the situation.

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andel
06/04/23 2:34:45 PM
#390:


Vigero posted...
Hate to agree with that guy, but yeah, the Politics board was historically poorly moderated to anybody that posted there a decent amount of time to notice that.

And if Politics related messages aren't going to have any consistency enforced in regards to what is and isn't moderation worthy, then it's just for the best to do away with Political discussion since both the userbase and the staff aren't in a state to deal with it.

there is and always has been consistency. don't post vile shit and you won't get moderated.

and political discussion isn't going anywhere on this site, just politics specific boards aren't allowed as per fandom corporate policy, which has been in place and is uniform across all the platforms they own.

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Vigero
06/04/23 2:35:41 PM
#391:


andel posted...


there is and always has been consistency.

Yeah, no.

Maybe in a parallel universe but that has never been the case.
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WTGHookshot
06/04/23 2:50:31 PM
#393:


GranolaPanic posted...
I think many of you have a huge misconception about the kind of board 261 was. It wasnt this hugely toxic board some of you think it was. There were some toxic and problematic users there and thats undeniable. But it didnt reflect the entire board or mean every user there was like that.

Indeed. There were heated arguments there, but I've seen the same thing here. I wouldn't call those "toxic" or "problematic." There definitely were some, but I didn't find it any different than any of the other boards on this site. I would state the gaming boards were just as "toxic" and "problematic." Have you ever been on a Final Fantasy game board for instance?

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Vigero
06/04/23 2:53:53 PM
#394:


GranolaPanic posted...
I think many of you have a huge misconception about the kind of board 261 was. It wasnt this hugely toxic board some of you think it was. There were some toxic and problematic users there and thats undeniable. But it didnt reflect the entire board or mean every user there was like that.

Thing is the only ones who keep pushing this narrative that 261 was misunderstood community are the diehard community members of that board to begin with.

Everyone else rightfully considered it a hellhole. And reflexively screeching the same old trumper/nazi/right wing/whatever posts over and over when that's pointed out doesn't do any favors and get people to buy into that belief.
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andel
06/04/23 2:55:51 PM
#395:


fyi vigero is a far right winger who is melting down hard across like 5 topics about 261. he is the same guy that tried to show up on 261 with right wing trolling and got shut down hard so he ran away and is still obviously still mad af about it lol

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Vigero
06/04/23 2:58:29 PM
#396:


I want you to defend the merits of 261 without mentioning anything having to do with people being conservative/right wing/Trump/Nazi or any variations of that sort.

You are wholly incapable of doing so, aren't you? Of course you are.
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Heineken14
06/04/23 2:59:34 PM
#397:


Vigero posted...


Thing is the only ones who keep pushing this narrative that 261 was misunderstood community are the diehard community members of that board to begin with.

Everyone else rightfully considered it a hellhole. And reflexively screeching the same old trumper/nazi/right wing/whatever posts over and over when that's pointed out doesn't do any favors and get people to buy into that belief.


It's more inline with the unhinged far right lie that it was a toxic Hivemind echo chamber.

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WTGHookshot
06/04/23 3:01:56 PM
#398:


Vigero posted...
Thing is the only ones who keep pushing this narrative that 261 was misunderstood community are the diehard community members of that board to begin with.

Everyone else rightfully considered it a hellhole. And reflexively screeching the same old trumper/nazi/right wing/whatever posts over and over when that's pointed out doesn't do any favors and get people to buy into that belief.

To the bolded: that's pretty common across the internet as a whole but especially GameFAQs boards in general. I mean, just look at this board. You have a large number of regulars telling refugees that they've turned this place into a hellhole, while a number of self-aware regulars confirm this place was already a hellhole. Same thing with boards like the console boards, popular game series like Sonic, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Fire Emblem, Dark Souls, Elder Scrolls, etc. Many of the regulars don't seem to realize how much of a hellhole they are to outsiders. They think it's perfectly normal for the things that go on within their boards.

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Vigero
06/04/23 3:02:23 PM
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You know...if you want to disprove the notion that people on 261 were an echo chamber that reflexively foamed at the mouth about people being far right and whatever...you don't disprove that notion by immediately proceeding to make posts moaning about far right users and blah blah blah.

Way to be that self-fulfilling prophecy proving the point people were making about you.
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itcheyness
06/04/23 3:03:16 PM
#400:


Crimsoness posted...
The mods didn't close the politics board you dingus
Nah, they just trolled the shit out of the topic on CE asking what happened to 261.

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Heineken14
06/04/23 3:03:24 PM
#401:


Vigero posted...
You know...if you want to disprove the notion that people on 261 were an echo chamber that reflexively foamed at the mouth about people being far right and whatever...you don't disprove that notion by immediately proceeding to make posts moaning about far right users and blah blah blah.

Way to be that self-fulfilling prophecy proving the point people were making about you.


Uh huh.

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andel
06/04/23 3:03:24 PM
#402:


Vigero posted...
I want you to defend the merits of 261 without mentioning anything having to do with people being conservative/right wing/Trump/Nazi or any variations of that sort.

You are wholly incapable of doing so, aren't you? Of course you are.

the only people throwing a shitfit about 261 are extremists like you who tried to show up and shitpost and got slapped around until you fled. normal people either didn't care about it or posted with no issues.

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Vigero
06/04/23 3:04:36 PM
#403:


Cults are a real thing, folks.
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