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NittanyLions23 10/16/23 9:18:25 PM #51:	SocialistGamer posted... Because if something world ending were to happen, wouldn't a God intervene to stop it? You realize that nuclear weapons have been used multiple times in the past, yes? <cite>NittanyLions23 posted [p:976697123] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>SocialistGamer posted... </cite><quote>Because if something world ending were to happen, wouldn't a God intervene to stop it?</quote>You realize that nuclear weapons have been used multiple times in the past, yes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 10/16/23 9:23:51 PM #52:	NittanyLions23 posted... You realize that nuclear weapons have been used multiple times in the past, yes? Mainly as tests. In war, just twice. Though whether they would have saved more lives in the long run is up for debate. --- Insert some witty line here <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:976697231] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>NittanyLions23 posted... </cite><quote>You realize that nuclear weapons have been used multiple times in the past, yes?</quote>Mainly as tests. In war, just twice. Though whether they would have saved more lives in the long run is up for debate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NittanyLions23 10/16/23 9:28:37 PM #53:	So Im not seeing the logical train of thought here. Nuclear weapons dont mean that the world is ending. And to argue about the world ending, doesnt make sense, because if the world ended, we wouldnt even be talking about it. So obviously, God has done a good job of protecting the world so far. <cite>NittanyLions23 posted [p:976697325] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>So Im not seeing the logical train of thought here.Nuclear weapons dont mean that the world is ending.And to argue about the world ending, doesnt make sense, because if the world ended, we wouldnt even be talking about it.So obviously, God has done a good job of protecting the world so far.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 10/16/23 9:46:22 PM #54:	Also the thing is... The world is going to end. Period. Don't know when or how, but one day it is. I'm still reading through The Bible, but I don't believe God says that the world we're in now will last forever. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:976697610] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>Also the thing is...The world is going to end. Period. Don't know when or how, but one day it is. I'm still reading through The Bible, but I don't believe God says that the world we're in now will last forever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 10/16/23 10:02:00 PM #55:	SocialistGamer posted... nuclear war was about to happen? what about every single other deity in every single other religion? but nooooooo you got to single out Christianity. Lmar --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:976697904] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>SocialistGamer posted... </cite><quote>nuclear war was about to happen?</quote>what about every single other deity in every single other religion?but nooooooo you got to single out Christianity. Lmar </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 10/16/23 10:08:44 PM #56:	If the Jewish God didnt intervene in the Holocaust. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:976698019] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>If the Jewish God didnt intervene in the Holocaust. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 10/16/23 10:12:26 PM #57:	I'm not religious anymore but I was taught this lesson over and over again when I was forced to go to church over the first 20 years of my life. God did his setup leading to Jesus dying so he give mankind the option to accept him into their life as their savior of their own accord. The whole point is free will. If he wanted to impose his will that much he could have be created beings programmed to love him, which are pretty much what angels are. So whenever agnostic people pose similar questions to "why would a good God let bad things happen", it isn't a "gotcha" moment as much as they think it. In fact Sunday school teachers and preachers LOVE to branch lessons off this hook or center whole sermons around it. I'm sure if you want it in their words you can look up probably a hundred different sermons or Sunday school lessons online. <cite>dioxxys posted [p:976698083] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>I'm not religious anymore but I was taught this lesson over and over again when I was forced to go to church over the first 20 years of my life.God did his setup leading to Jesus dying so he give mankind the option to accept him into their life as their savior of their own accord. The whole point is free will. If he wanted to impose his will that much he could have be created beings programmed to love him, which are pretty much what angels are. So whenever agnostic people pose similar questions to "why would a good God let bad things happen", it isn't a "gotcha" moment as much as they think it. In fact Sunday school teachers and preachers LOVE to branch lessons off this hook or center whole sermons around it.I'm sure if you want it in their words you can look up probably a hundred different sermons or Sunday school lessons online.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 10/16/23 10:13:37 PM #58:	dioxxys posted... I'm not religious anymore but I was taught this lesson over and over again when I was forced to go to church over the first 20 years of my life. God did his setup leading to Jesus dying so he give mankind the option to accept him into their life as their savior of their own accord. The whole point is free will. If he wanted to impose his will that much he could have be created beings programmed to love him, which are pretty much what angels are. So whenever agnostic people pose similar questions to "why would a good God let bad things happen", it isn't a "gotcha" moment as much as they think it. In fact Sunday school teachers and preachers LOVE to branch lessons off this hook or center whole sermons around it. I'm sure if you want it in their words you can look up probably a hundred different sermons or Sunday school lessons online. There's hundreds of perspectives on this. Christians: "God gave us free will to do with what we want!" Also Christians: "God has a plan for everyone and wants them to be happy! But if you don't submit to God, he will send you to be punished!" --- Insert some witty line here <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:976698108] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>dioxxys posted... </cite><quote>I'm not religious anymore but I was taught this lesson over and over again when I was forced to go to church over the first 20 years of my life.God did his setup leading to Jesus dying so he give mankind the option to accept him into their life as their savior of their own accord. The whole point is free will. If he wanted to impose his will that much he could have be created beings programmed to love him, which are pretty much what angels are. So whenever agnostic people pose similar questions to "why would a good God let bad things happen", it isn't a "gotcha" moment as much as they think it. In fact Sunday school teachers and preachers LOVE to branch lessons off this hook or center whole sermons around it.I'm sure if you want it in their words you can look up probably a hundred different sermons or Sunday school lessons online. There's hundreds of perspectives on this.</quote>Christians: "God gave us free will to do with what we want!"Also Christians: "God has a plan for everyone and wants them to be happy! But if you don't submit to God, he will send you to be punished!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 10/17/23 12:54:41 AM #59:	dioxxys posted... I'm not religious anymore but I was taught this lesson over and over again when I was forced to go to church over the first 20 years of my life. God did his setup leading to Jesus dying so he give mankind the option to accept him into their life as their savior of their own accord. The whole point is free will. If he wanted to impose his will that much he could have be created beings programmed to love him, which are pretty much what angels are. So whenever agnostic people pose similar questions to "why would a good God let bad things happen", it isn't a "gotcha" moment as much as they think it. In fact Sunday school teachers and preachers LOVE to branch lessons off this hook or center whole sermons around it. I'm sure if you want it in their words you can look up probably a hundred different sermons or Sunday school lessons online. No, it's still a "gotcha" moment because God is supposedly the one who created the concept of Heaven or Hell, still allow suffering to innocents, and not to mention natural disaster claiming lives or making live worst. Were people who were killed from them deserving of it? Was it there fault they were in the wrong place at the wrong time? Did God allow for such a thing to happen even though he's suppose to be all Loving? If the Judeo Christian God from the holy text wasn't an all powerful, all knowing, and all loving being than the question of "why would a good God let bad things happen" wouldn't even be a gotcha moment. But no, we're suppose to be worshipping, dedicating our life for him, and be thankful to him. Like honestly, fuck that. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:976700410] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>dioxxys posted... </cite><quote>I'm not religious anymore but I was taught this lesson over and over again when I was forced to go to church over the first 20 years of my life.God did his setup leading to Jesus dying so he give mankind the option to accept him into their life as their savior of their own accord. The whole point is free will. If he wanted to impose his will that much he could have be created beings programmed to love him, which are pretty much what angels are. So whenever agnostic people pose similar questions to "why would a good God let bad things happen", it isn't a "gotcha" moment as much as they think it. In fact Sunday school teachers and preachers LOVE to branch lessons off this hook or center whole sermons around it.I'm sure if you want it in their words you can look up probably a hundred different sermons or Sunday school lessons online.</quote>No, it's still a "gotcha" moment because God is supposedly the one who created the concept of Heaven or Hell, still allow suffering to innocents, and not to mention natural disaster claiming lives or making live worst. Were people who were killed from them deserving of it? Was it there fault they were in the wrong place at the wrong time? Did God allow for such a thing to happen even though he's suppose to be all Loving? If the Judeo Christian God from the holy text wasn't an all powerful, all knowing, and all loving being than the question of "why would a good God let bad things happen" wouldn't even be a gotcha moment. But no, we're suppose to be worshipping, dedicating our life for him, and be thankful to him. Like honestly, fuck that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/17/23 12:57:49 AM #60:	SocialistGamer posted... nuclear war was about to happen? Check out Genesis 19:1-29 to get an idea of what God thinks about nuclear weapons --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976700437] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>SocialistGamer posted... </cite><quote>nuclear war was about to happen?</quote>Check out Genesis 19:1-29 to get an idea of what God thinks about nuclear weapons </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 10/17/23 1:38:31 AM #61:	Prestoff posted... No, it's still a "gotcha" moment because God is supposedly the one who created the concept of Heaven or Hell, still allow suffering to innocents, and not to mention natural disaster claiming lives or making live worst. Were people who were killed from them deserving of it? Was it there fault they were in the wrong place at the wrong time? Did God allow for such a thing to happen even though he's suppose to be all Loving? If the Judeo Christian God from the holy text wasn't an all powerful, all knowing, and all loving being than the question of "why would a good God let bad things happen" wouldn't even be a gotcha moment. But no, we're suppose to be worshipping, dedicating our life for him, and be thankful to him. Like honestly, fuck that. I'm not here to debate you because don't practice Christianity anymore but I'm telling you it's really not a gotcha. Any pastor or Sunday school teacher has an answer to this because it's been posed so many times. If you really want to argue with someone, you're free to go debate with any pastor. I'm sure lots of them would love to talk to you. Heck you don't even have to see them in person I'm sure they offer online services. <cite>dioxxys posted [p:976700765] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>Prestoff posted... </cite><quote>No, it's still a "gotcha" moment because God is supposedly the one who created the concept of Heaven or Hell, still allow suffering to innocents, and not to mention natural disaster claiming lives or making live worst. Were people who were killed from them deserving of it? Was it there fault they were in the wrong place at the wrong time? Did God allow for such a thing to happen even though he's suppose to be all Loving? If the Judeo Christian God from the holy text wasn't an all powerful, all knowing, and all loving being than the question of "why would a good God let bad things happen" wouldn't even be a gotcha moment. But no, we're suppose to be worshipping, dedicating our life for him, and be thankful to him. Like honestly, fuck that.</quote>I'm not here to debate you because don't practice Christianity anymore but I'm telling you it's really not a gotcha. Any pastor or Sunday school teacher has an answer to this because it's been posed so many times.If you really want to argue with someone, you're free to go debate with any pastor. I'm sure lots of them would love to talk to you. Heck you don't even have to see them in person I'm sure they offer online services.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/17/23 1:56:43 AM #62:	If God is omnipotent but also gave us free will, then God is saying that billions of pointless deaths and suffering is a small price to pay for it. He could save people from things that are beyond their control and doesn't. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976700928] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>If God is omnipotent but also gave us free will, then God is saying that billions of pointless deaths and suffering is a small price to pay for it. He could save people from things that are beyond their control and doesn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/17/23 2:02:19 AM #63:	hockeybub89 posted... If God is omnipotent but also gave us free will, then God is saying that billions of pointless deaths and suffering is a small price to pay for it. He could save people from things that are beyond their control and doesn't. Think of it like Americans think of 2A. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976700979] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>If God is omnipotent but also gave us free will, then God is saying that billions of pointless deaths and suffering is a small price to pay for it. He could save people from things that are beyond their control and doesn't.</quote>Think of it like Americans think of 2A. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
crazyisgood 10/17/23 2:05:15 AM #64:	Maybe nuclear war is part of revelations --- Best RPG Boss Battle Bracket Nominations https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/220-rpgs-everything-else/75722929 <cite>crazyisgood posted [p:976701007] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>Maybe nuclear war is part of revelations </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 10/17/23 2:11:01 AM #65:	No. Before Armageddon there's supposed to be a "great tribulation" where the world's completely fucked. He's just sitting back waiting for someone to press the button. --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:976701058] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>No.Before Armageddon there's supposed to be a "great tribulation" where the world's completely fucked. He's just sitting back waiting for someone to press the button. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 10/17/23 2:40:30 AM #66:	no? he's ended the planet himself. --- http://i.imgur.com/O5APL.jpg http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:976701251] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>no? he's ended the planet himself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zwijn 10/17/23 2:42:56 AM #67:	Gives me the freedom to like all genitals Sends me to hell for it wow thanks dude <cite>Zwijn posted [p:976701272] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>Gives me the freedom to like all genitalsSends me to hell for itwow thanks dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountCorvinus 10/17/23 2:43:19 AM #68:	Fuck no. The christian god is a genocidal maniac. --- All Corvids Are Beautiful (They/Them) <cite>CountCorvinus posted [p:976701276] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>Fuck no. The christian god is a genocidal maniac. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 10/17/23 2:45:40 AM #69:	If he didn't stop his own son from being murdered, then the rest of use are screwed. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:976701293] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>If he didn't stop his own son from being murdered, then the rest of use are screwed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YugiNoob 10/17/23 2:46:50 AM #70:	If he was real, then he wiped out nearly all life on the planet. The man gives no fucks lol. The only reason I see him stopping nuclear war is so that he would get to directly kill the people. Why would he let nukes have all the fun? --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya High-Five! <cite>YugiNoob posted [p:976701301] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>If he was real, then he wiped out nearly all life on the planet. The man gives no fucks lol. The only reason I see him stopping nuclear war is so that he would get to directly kill the people. Why would he let nukes have all the fun? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 10/17/23 2:59:38 AM #71:	https://i.imgur.com/CRLq0Y8.jpeg --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:976701381] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>https://i.imgur.com/CRLq0Y8.jpeg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 10/17/23 7:40:31 AM #72:	Prestoff posted... No, it's still a "gotcha" moment because God is supposedly the one who created the concept of Heaven or Hell, still allow suffering to innocents, and not to mention natural disaster claiming lives or making live worst. Were people who were killed from them deserving of it? Was it there fault they were in the wrong place at the wrong time? Did God allow for such a thing to happen even though he's suppose to be all Loving? If the Judeo Christian God from the holy text wasn't an all powerful, all knowing, and all loving being than the question of "why would a good God let bad things happen" wouldn't even be a gotcha moment. But no, we're suppose to be worshipping, dedicating our life for him, and be thankful to him. Like honestly, fuck that. again, its funny now this argument is not being brought up for any other deity, its sus as fuck --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:976702948] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>Prestoff posted... </cite><quote>No, it's still a "gotcha" moment because God is supposedly the one who created the concept of Heaven or Hell, still allow suffering to innocents, and not to mention natural disaster claiming lives or making live worst. Were people who were killed from them deserving of it? Was it there fault they were in the wrong place at the wrong time? Did God allow for such a thing to happen even though he's suppose to be all Loving? If the Judeo Christian God from the holy text wasn't an all powerful, all knowing, and all loving being than the question of "why would a good God let bad things happen" wouldn't even be a gotcha moment. But no, we're suppose to be worshipping, dedicating our life for him, and be thankful to him. Like honestly, fuck that.</quote>again, its funny now this argument is not being brought up for any other deity, its sus as fuck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarcyWarcy 10/17/23 7:43:17 AM #73:	god had a plan (that involves an enormous amount of innocent people dying apparently) --- Looks like this gamer's paradise has turned into a gamer's hell............................................... <cite>MarcyWarcy posted [p:976702970] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>god had a plan (that involves an enormous amount of innocent people dying apparently) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/17/23 7:46:19 AM #74:	The_shibe posted... again, its funny now this argument is not being brought up for any other deity, its sus as fuck Do people claim Vishnu to be omnipotent and all-loving? But here's that argument again: "Why people from heavily Christian nations talk more about God than other deities?" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976702994] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>The_shibe posted... </cite><quote>again, its funny now this argument is not being brought up for any other deity, its sus as fuck</quote>Do people claim Vishnu to be omnipotent and all-loving?But here's that argument again: "Why people from heavily Christian nations talk more about God than other deities?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/17/23 7:49:11 AM #75:	MarcyWarcy posted... god had a plan (that involves an enormous amount of innocent people dying apparently) Original sin. No one's innocent. And, in the context of eternity in heaven, a short life on Earth isn't such a big deal. But it's still a very, very weird plan. Makes no sense to me. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976703013] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>MarcyWarcy posted... </cite><quote>god had a plan (that involves an enormous amount of innocent people dying apparently)</quote>Original sin. No one's innocent. And, in the context of eternity in heaven, a short life on Earth isn't such a big deal.But it's still a very, very weird plan. Makes no sense to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 10/17/23 10:14:23 AM #76:	ai123 posted... Original sin. No one's innocent. Sin is a man-made myth that the Church's leaders use to control those that are superstitious and gullible. As George Carlin said, they make empty promises and big claims. When pressed for actual details, they of course can't prove anything in the Bible that they love to thump. "God said X!" Did He now? Can you get Him down here to confirm He actually said that? No? We're just supposed blindly believe that claim? --- Insert some witty line here <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:976704620] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>Original sin. No one's innocent. </quote>Sin is a man-made myth that the Church's leaders use to control those that are superstitious and gullible. As George Carlin said, they make empty promises and big claims. When pressed for actual details, they of course can't prove anything in the Bible that they love to thump."God said X!"Did He now? Can you get Him down here to confirm He actually said that? No? We're just supposed blindly believe that claim? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/17/23 10:18:58 AM #77:	TyVulpine posted... Sin is a man-made myth that the Church's leaders use to control those that are superstitious and gullible. As George Carlin said, they make empty promises and big claims. When pressed for actual details, they of course can't prove anything in the Bible that they love to thump. "God said X!" Did He now? Can you get down here to confirm He actually said that? No? We're just supposed blindly believe that claim? I mean . . . yeah you are. That's what faith is. No one decides to become a Christian because they had a long hard think about all the options and decided that one was the most plausible. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976704684] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>TyVulpine posted... </cite><quote>Sin is a man-made myth that the Church's leaders use to control those that are superstitious and gullible. As George Carlin said, they make empty promises and big claims. When pressed for actual details, they of course can't prove anything in the Bible that they love to thump."God said X!"Did He now? Can you get down here to confirm He actually said that? No? We're just supposed blindly believe that claim?</quote>I mean . . . yeah you are. That's what faith is.No one decides to become a Christian because they had a long hard think about all the options and decided that one was the most plausible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 10/17/23 10:42:06 AM #78:	ai123 posted... I mean . . . yeah you are. That's what faith is. No one decides to become a Christian because they had a long hard think about all the options and decided that one was the most plausible. Faith is what people use as an excuse for lack of proof, and then they expect others to just accept it and often get mad when people don't. Yeah, no. That's not how reality works. I could say I have faith that there is an invisible, silent purple unicorn with yellow spots standing beside me, and demand you blindly accept that, but nobody in their right mind would accept that claim. Insanity is when you believe your hallucinations are real. Religion is when you believe other people's hallucinations are real. --- Insert some witty line here <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:976704994] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>I mean . . . yeah you are. That's what faith is.No one decides to become a Christian because they had a long hard think about all the options and decided that one was the most plausible.</quote>Faith is what people use as an excuse for lack of proof, and then they expect others to just accept it and often get mad when people don't. Yeah, no. That's not how reality works. I could say I have faith that there is an invisible, silent purple unicorn with yellow spots standing beside me, and demand you blindly accept that, but nobody in their right mind would accept that claim.Insanity is when you believe your hallucinations are real.Religion is when you believe other people's hallucinations are real. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 10/17/23 10:44:32 AM #79:	I dunno but if I was an omnipotent all powerful being and I created a species and it decided to destroy itself I'd just let them cause they deserve it tbh --- She/her Dynamite with a laser beam <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:976705037] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>I dunno but if I was an omnipotent all powerful being and I created a species and it decided to destroy itself I'd just let them cause they deserve it tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 10/17/23 10:48:58 AM #80:	hockeybub89 posted... Do people claim Vishnu to be omnipotent and all-loving? But here's that argument again: "Why people from heavily Christian nations talk more about God than other deities?" What about Islam or Judaism or Buddhism? --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:976705100] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Do people claim Vishnu to be omnipotent and all-loving?But here's that argument again: "Why people from heavily Christian nations talk more about God than other deities?"</quote>What about Islam or Judaism or Buddhism? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C_Pain 10/17/23 11:13:55 AM #83:	You can complain all you want but God can do as he wishes. Deal with it. --- How quaint. <cite>C_Pain posted [p:976705501] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>You can complain all you want but God can do as he wishes. Deal with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 10/17/23 11:14:42 AM #84:	God's gonna God. --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:976705523] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>God's gonna God. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 10/17/23 11:15:19 AM #85:	C_Pain posted... You can complain all you want but God can do as he wishes. Deal with it. Just as long as Zeus doesn't smite me with one of his thunderbolts. --- Insert some witty line here <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:976705536] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>C_Pain posted... </cite><quote>You can complain all you want but God can do as he wishes. Deal with it.</quote>Just as long as Zeus doesn't smite me with one of his thunderbolts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 10/17/23 11:40:10 AM #87:	dioxxys posted... I'm not here to debate you because don't practice Christianity anymore but I'm telling you it's really not a gotcha. Any pastor or Sunday school teacher has an answer to this because it's been posed so many times. If you really want to argue with someone, you're free to go debate with any pastor. I'm sure lots of them would love to talk to you. Heck you don't even have to see them in person I'm sure they offer online services. You don't think I haven't done that already? I've been asking and debating pastors and sunday school teachers about this very concept as young as highschool years of my life. None of them are able to give me an honest answer that doesn't revolve a logical fallacy like circular reasoning or strawman's. I already explained why it is a "gotcha" moment and how it doesn't need to be a gotcha moment if people who believe in the Judeo Christian God from the holy texts can just admit that God is not All Powerful, All Knowing, and All Loving because even in the holy text there are numerous of occasions of God contradicting those very characteristics. The_shibe posted... again, its funny now this argument is not being brought up for any other deity, its sus as fuck You don't make any sense. I specifically said the Judeo Christian God from the holy texts so all three religions are included with it as well. If you want to bring up another deity that claims to be All Omnipotent, than please do so otherwise it has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:976705895] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>dioxxys posted... </cite><quote>I'm not here to debate you because don't practice Christianity anymore but I'm telling you it's really not a gotcha. Any pastor or Sunday school teacher has an answer to this because it's been posed so many times.If you really want to argue with someone, you're free to go debate with any pastor. I'm sure lots of them would love to talk to you. Heck you don't even have to see them in person I'm sure they offer online services.</quote>You don't think I haven't done that already? I've been asking and debating pastors and sunday school teachers about this very concept as young as highschool years of my life. None of them are able to give me an honest answer that doesn't revolve a logical fallacy like circular reasoning or strawman's. I already explained why it is a "gotcha" moment and how it doesn't need to be a gotcha moment if people who believe in the Judeo Christian God from the holy texts can just admit that God is not All Powerful, All Knowing, and All Loving because even in the holy text there are numerous of occasions of God contradicting those very characteristics. The_shibe posted... </cite><quote>again, its funny now this argument is not being brought up for any other deity, its sus as fuck</quote>You don't make any sense. I specifically said the Judeo Christian God from the holy texts so all three religions are included with it as well. If you want to bring up another deity that claims to be All Omnipotent, than please do so otherwise it has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rags_alt 10/17/23 11:41:48 AM #88:	Maybe he has, many many times. Haven't had a nuclear war yet, eh? Mysterious ways and all that. Checkmate, atheists. <cite>rags_alt posted [p:976705912] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>Maybe he has, many many times. Haven't had a nuclear war yet, eh? Mysterious ways and all that. Checkmate, atheists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/17/23 11:43:22 AM #89:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] God has received some significant power creep over the years. People grossly exaggerating what "Almighty" really means has turned God into Super Thanos with the Super Infinity Stones. None of the stories about him in the bible actually suggest he has the kind of "Can do anything and knows everything" ability that people say he has today. In some older literature he even has Seraphim bodyguards. There's a lot of inconsistencies that arise from that mentality. Things start making more sense if you put God on a level where Lucifer's rebellion had a potential to actually succeed. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976705933] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> God has received some significant power creep over the years. People grossly exaggerating what "Almighty" really means has turned God into Super Thanos with the Super Infinity Stones. None of the stories about him in the bible actually suggest he has the kind of "Can do anything and knows everything" ability that people say he has today. In some older literature he even has Seraphim bodyguards. There's a lot of inconsistencies that arise from that mentality. Things start making more sense if you put God on a level where Lucifer's rebellion had a potential to actually succeed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/17/23 11:44:42 AM #90:	TyVulpine posted... Faith is what people use as an excuse for lack of proof, and then they expect others to just accept it and often get mad when people don't. Yeah, no. That's not how reality works. I could say I have faith that there is an invisible, silent purple unicorn with yellow spots standing beside me, and demand you blindly accept that, but nobody in their right mind would accept that claim. Insanity is when you believe your hallucinations are real. Religion is when you believe other people's hallucinations are real. So you don't believe that anyone genuinely believes in their religion? We'll just have to disagree about that. Some people sincerely believe in a lot of strange things that I find preposterous. Spiritualism, ghosts, alien abduction . . . and, yes, religion. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976705949] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>TyVulpine posted... </cite><quote>Faith is what people use as an excuse for lack of proof, and then they expect others to just accept it and often get mad when people don't. Yeah, no. That's not how reality works. I could say I have faith that there is an invisible, silent purple unicorn with yellow spots standing beside me, and demand you blindly accept that, but nobody in their right mind would accept that claim.Insanity is when you believe your hallucinations are real.Religion is when you believe other people's hallucinations are real.</quote>So you don't believe that anyone genuinely believes in their religion?We'll just have to disagree about that.Some people sincerely believe in a lot of strange things that I find preposterous. Spiritualism, ghosts, alien abduction . . . and, yes, religion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rags_alt 10/17/23 11:45:09 AM #91:	Calwings posted... https://i.imgur.com/CRLq0Y8.jpeg Stealing that, lol. That's quite damning. <cite>rags_alt posted [p:976705955] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>Calwings posted... </cite><quote>https://i.imgur.com/CRLq0Y8.jpeg</quote>Stealing that, lol. That's quite damning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 10/17/23 11:53:41 AM #92:	ai123 posted... So you don't believe that anyone genuinely believes in their religion? We'll just have to disagree about that. Some people sincerely believe in a lot of strange things that I find preposterous. Spiritualism, ghosts, alien abduction . . . and, yes, religion. Religion relies on blind acceptable on what is claimed, and they get mad if you dare question their claims. --- Insert some witty line here <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:976706089] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>So you don't believe that anyone genuinely believes in their religion?We'll just have to disagree about that.Some people sincerely believe in a lot of strange things that I find preposterous. Spiritualism, ghosts, alien abduction . . . and, yes, religion.</quote>Religion relies on blind acceptable on what is claimed, and they get mad if you dare question their claims. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/17/23 11:55:21 AM #93:	TyVulpine posted... Religion relies on blind acceptable on what is claimed, and they get mad if you dare question their claims. Yes. I agree. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976706125] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>TyVulpine posted... </cite><quote>Religion relies on blind acceptable on what is claimed, and they get mad if you dare question their claims.</quote>Yes. I agree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 10/17/23 11:56:31 AM #94:	TyVulpine posted... Religion relies on blind acceptable on what is claimed, and they get mad if you dare question their claims. You guys aren't disagreeing with each other, just saying. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:976706146] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>TyVulpine posted... </cite><quote>Religion relies on blind acceptable on what is claimed, and they get mad if you dare question their claims.</quote>You guys aren't disagreeing with each other, just saying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/17/23 2:33:32 PM #96:	The_shibe posted... What about Islam or Judaism or Buddhism? Islam and Judaism? You mean the same god? "But why no people talk about Buddhism in the West?" Buddhism is pretty different anyway. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976708973] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>The_shibe posted... </cite><quote>What about Islam or Judaism or Buddhism?</quote>Islam and Judaism? You mean the same god?"But why no people talk about Buddhism in the West?" Buddhism is pretty different anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 10/17/23 2:37:47 PM #97:	Dude... according to their own scriptures, the Christian God flooded the earth killing nearly everyone: men, women, children, babies, the elderly, puppies and kittens. The all powerful Christian God most Christians believe in could have created a universe where little babies don't get cancer, but decided he wanted this world where babies get cancer and little children starve to death. --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 <cite>Torgo posted [p:976709075] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>Dude... according to their own scriptures, the Christian God flooded the earth killing nearly everyone: men, women, children, babies, the elderly, puppies and kittens.The all powerful Christian God most Christians believe in could have created a universe where little babies don't get cancer, but decided he wanted this world where babies get cancer and little children starve to death. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faizan_faizan 10/17/23 2:39:59 PM #98:	If there is a higher power, it is either non-interventionist or intervenes in some discreet way that the vast majority won't ever know about. --- Allergic to bull****. <cite>faizan_faizan posted [p:976709138] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>If there is a higher power, it is either non-interventionist or intervenes in some discreet way that the vast majority won't ever know about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 10/18/23 9:05:24 AM #99:	Prestoff posted... https://youtu.be/wd4YgudTcnM?si=AghogjbRdjMVd7Bk Nah, more like ragequit my Sims playthrough and started a new one while leaving the old on auto. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:976722926] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>Prestoff posted... </cite><quote>https://youtu.be/wd4YgudTcnM?si=AghogjbRdjMVd7Bk</quote>Nah, more like ragequit my Sims playthrough and started a new one while leaving the old on auto. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RyukSan 10/18/23 9:13:50 AM #100:	The Christian God? That God is legitimately a vindictive dick who intentionally sets up tragic events. If this God exists, he's probably sitting back enjoying the chaos he designed to eventually occur. <cite>RyukSan posted [p:976723025] in If the Chr... [t:80595251]...</cite> <quote>The Christian God? That God is legitimately a vindictive dick who intentionally sets up tragic events.If this God exists, he's probably sitting back enjoying the chaos he designed to eventually occur.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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