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ellis123 posted...

The Martian Manhunter is almost immune to fire. He has pyrophobia.

Ahh damn. That sucks

Ratchetrockon posted...

Umm ok maybe a few of them can like Superman and Martian Manhunter but if FF characters team up they can defeat them.

And Flash, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman,... you know...every single one of them that isn't Batman

Ratchetrockon posted...

Martian Manhunt weak to fire

Which is something that is actually rarely the case and often just psychological trauma. But it's the only one where people arguing this actually have some sort of point.

Ratchetrockon posted...

Wonder Woman weak to bullets

Those things she has bracelets for and the speed to easily reflect them back at the ones shooting her? Not to mention that she has actually tanked bullets before?

Ratchetrockon posted...

Superman weak to kryptonite

Ah yes, kryptonite. The staple in any FF character's item bag.

Ratchetrockon posted...

Flash is just a jobber in general. Only strong once in a blue moon. Not a threat

Basing your opinion on the CW show is just a bad thing in general. The man can easily solo the majority of FF parties.

Wonder Woman is not weak to bullets

Some parties are able to defeat strike-anywhere-on-the-planet gods (i.e. taking down Kefka, etc). So the FF side has at least some heavy hitters in terms of how strong they would be if not limited to the combat system.

Aside from that, the main thing they have are, ironically, all those spells that players rarely use because enemies and especially bosses are usually resistant if not straight up immune to them in the FF universe. I mean things like stop, petrify, heat, sleep, instant death, etc. Spells that in many cases just automatically hit, and then rely on resistances to determine if they have an effect.

Well, that and the fact that they can revive each other and there will also be phoenix summons and autolifes going off constantly.

In short, the way for the army of FF party members to stand a chance is to abuse the power of cheese.

TheSavageDragon posted...

Basing your opinion on the CW show is just a bad thing in general. The man can easily solo the majority of FF parties.

I just base it on the fact that after almost a century of comics Flash only has like 20 top end feats or something like that

And his villains are street level tier

Irony posted...

Wonder Woman is not weak to bullets

You can't point that out and not post the comic.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/4/9/AAEv3mAAE86B.jpg
Ratchetrockon posted...

I just base it on the fact that after almost a century of comics Flash only has like 20 top end feats or something like that

And his villains are street level tier

Mate, you can just say "I literally have no clue about WTF Flash does so don't mind me underselling the crap out of him." It's okay, we understand.

ellis123 posted...

Mate, you can just say "I literally have no clue about WTF Flash does so don't mind me underselling the crap out of him." It's okay, we understand.

I've seen most of his feats. Even new ones that are above the 13 trillion ftl korean nuke (tho author says its sublight speed). I just refuse to believe its common occurrence. I read a few of his comics randomly and he doesn't do anything crazy in them.

So chances that FF characters face against a strong flash is slim

Ratchetrockon posted...

I just base it on the fact that after almost a century of comics Flash only has like 20 top end feats or something like that

And his villains are street level tier

I highly doubt you actually know about those comics as you come in here with gems like "there aren't any characters on the JL that are fast or could cut through buildings besides Superman". And those top end Flash feats aren't just at the top end of his own history, but the entire universe he's based in. Things like an infinite mass punch are just absolutely insane to even fully grasp.

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Clearly doesn't. Zatanna is capable of literally any spell FF characters have plus at least a few dozen more.

Ratchetrockon posted...

I've seen most of his feats. Even new ones that are above the 13 trillion ftl korean nuke (tho author says its sublight speed). I just refuse to believe its common occurrence. I read a few of his comics randomly and he doesn't do anything crazy in them.

So chances that FF characters face against a strong flash is slim

By that logic the chance an FF character deploys a limit break, summon, phoenix down,... is even more slim as none of those actually happen in story in the vast majority of games. Some of those like a phoenix down have even been straight-up shown not to work outside of gameplay

TheSavageDragon posted...

I highly doubt you actually know about those comics as you come in here with gems like "there aren't any characters on the JL that are fast or could cut through buildings besides Superman". And those top end Flash feats aren't just at the top end of his own history, but the entire universe he's based in. Things like an infinite mass punch are just absolutely insane to even fully grasp.

infinite mass punch is not that powerful tho. all it did was punch a white martian to a diff continent

TheSavageDragon posted...

By that logic the chance an FF character deploys a limit break, summon, phoenix down,... is even more slim as none of those actually happen in story in the vast majority of games. Some of those like a phoenix down have even been straight-up shown not to work outside of gameplay

ok maybe you are right

Ratchetrockon posted...

infinite mass punch is not that powerful tho. all it did was punch a white martian to a diff continent

Physics 101. The faster an object moves, the more mass it attains. At Lightspeed my fist hits like a White Dwarf Star.

That's a punch with the mass of the sun behind it. Sephiroth's Supernova is peanuts compared to that.

TheSavageDragon posted...

Physics 101. The faster an object moves, the more mass it attains. At Lightspeed my fist hits like a White Dwarf Star.

That's a punch with the mass of the sun behind it. Sephiroth's Supernova is peanuts compared to that.

well hopefully flash doesn't use it against the FF cast. he prob used it against the white Martian because he knew they could survive it

Ratchetrockon posted...

well hopefully flash doesn't use it against the FF cast. he prob used it against the white Martian because he knew they could survive it

Yeah, that's not to say FF characters are weaklings. They are powerful as hell in their own right, but the fact that guys like Superman have had several thousand comics and multiple versions while the majority of FF characters had a couple of games means whoever's writing them just have all the more chances to go completely overboard with their abilities.
Superman of the 50-60's just casually put some chains around multiple planets and then pulled them back into alignment on nothing but pure strength.

This hypothetical VS match-up would have been far more fair if TC had used a specific version of the JL like the DC Animated Universe's JL. They would actually have a though time beating even a single FF party and I think Terra in her Esper form would be out of their reach.

TheSavageDragon posted...

Yeah, that's not to say FF characters are weaklings. They are powerful as hell in their own right, but the fact that guys like Superman have had several thousand comics and multiple versions while the majority of FF characters had a couple of games means whoever's writing them just have all the more chances to go completely overboard with their abilities.
Superman of the 50-60's just casually put some chains around multiple planets and then pulled them back into alignment on nothing but pure strength.

This hypothetical VS match-up would have been far more fair if TC had used a specific version of the JL like the DC Animated Universe's JL. They would actually have a though time beating even a single FF party and I think Terra in her Esper form would be out of their reach.

Yeah. I was just coping hard tbh. I just really wanted the FF characters to win

TheSavageDragon posted...

Physics 101. The faster an object moves, the more mass it attains. At Lightspeed my fist hits like a White Dwarf Star.

That's a punch with the mass of the sun behind it. Sephiroth's Supernova is peanuts compared to that.

If you are bringing actual physics into that, then the punch, as described, should have basically destroyed a decent chunk of the planet if it is putting out that much energy. Which suggests that physics are not actually in play like that, or that The Flash is talking crap. And knowing DC, they probably drew the "to another continent" part of the receiver in non-ballistic manner. Which unless he instantly switched to "pass through matter mode" would have basically resulted in a thermonuclear shockwave for part of that journey from him going so fast that the air he is hitting is being compressed into fusion reactions.

Suffice to say physics are even weaker subjects for DC comics than they are for the series full of magic and guys who "merely" swing around swords heavier than they are.

Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted...

If you are bringing actual physics into that, then the punch, as described, should have basically destroyed a decent chunk of the planet if it is putting out that much energy. Which suggests that physics are not actually in play like that, or that The Flash is talking crap. And knowing DC, they probably drew the "to another continent" part of the receiver in non-ballistic manner. Which unless he instantly switched to "pass through matter mode" would have basically resulted in a thermonuclear shockwave for part of that journey from him going so fast that the air he is hitting is being compressed into fusion reactions.

Suffice to say physics are even weaker subjects for DC comics than they are for the series full of magic and guys who "merely" swing around swords heavier than they are.

You're 100% correct on that. It's on the absolute high-end of feats and as often is the case with comic writers, doesn't actually apply actual science beyond what very little understanding they have of it like the infamous picosecond panel of the Flash.
But I don't agree with that last part though, it's more comparable to Sephiroth pulling meteors and planets out of the sky while not instantly destroying the entire planet they're standing on before his attack even reaches the party rather than Cloud being able to wield a giant slab of metal.

EDIT: Well that and the fact that Flash has the BS excuse of the Speed Force basically negating all negative physical effects of his powers. Otherwise his simply running around Central City would regularly just have people vaporized into mist

OP seems to have zero clue on how big the Justice League actually is. All FF protagonists including party members? Okay well they wouldn't just be fighting Superman.

They'd be fighting Superman, Supergirl, Powergirl, and Steel. Wonder Woman isn't by herself. There's Wonder Woman, Donna Troy, and Wondergirl. Not to mention Doctor Fate, Zatanna, and freaking Shazam. Hawkgirl and Hawkman both use magic weapons as well. JL has crazy magic power.

Then we have the other Metas... Flash, Captain Atom, Fire, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, etc. That doesn't even include all of the tech guys too like Batman and the whole bat family, Cyborg, The Atom, and Booster Gold.

AND theres the Earth Green Lanterns, who regularly coexist in the JL at the same time.

The JL blows FF protagonists out of the water.

Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted...

If you are bringing actual physics into that, then the punch, as described, should have basically destroyed a decent chunk of the planet if it is putting out that much energy. Which suggests that physics are not actually in play like that, or that The Flash is talking crap. And knowing DC, they probably drew the "to another continent" part of the receiver in non-ballistic manner. Which unless he instantly switched to "pass through matter mode" would have basically resulted in a thermonuclear shockwave for part of that journey from him going so fast that the air he is hitting is being compressed into fusion reactions.

Suffice to say physics are even weaker subjects for DC comics than they are for the series full of magic and guys who "merely" swing around swords heavier than they are.

Welcome to the Speed Force? The Flash both has the ability to move at any, *any*, speed desired, hit with infinite power, etc. Like, you bring up the whole "gotcha" of the thermonuclear shockwave as if he didn't move so fast that the entirety of existence ended at a point in his story. The main difference between JRPGs and comics is that the comics always tie their super nonsense to an actual thing that you can point to where in JRPGs the entire concept of what's going on is strictly "this is what looks cool so it's going in" and so you end up with weird nonsense like what would happen to Tifa's mass if you did the math for what she did in Advent Children (spoiler: she thicc).

Irony posted...

Wonder Woman is not weak to bullets

Its kind of implied tbh, or just piercing or cutting type atks in general compared to blunt force which she isnt far behind Superman in.

As for why though? Not sure. Shes a lot stronger now than she used to be initially so the vulnerability could be just an excuse to make her use and deflect/block stuff with her bracelets still like old times I assume.

VFalcone posted...

OP seems to have zero clue on how big the Justice League actually is

It's a mistake that's made constantly in these kind of topics. You need to specify an actual version and/or team roster as pretty much every DC character has been on the JL at one point and are pretty much always reserve members on call. Same goes for Marvel and the Avengers.

Still don't understand how this discussion is going on.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/8/5/AAR0xcAAE86l.jpg

Here's the Justice League btw. It doesn't just comprise of the original eight members.

Besides, all you need is Superman or Flash. They'll solo everyone in FF. Hell if Superman can give Goku a run for his money, you sure as hell know he'll blow the FF characters away (quite literally)

Prismsblade posted...

Its kind of implied tbh, or just piercing or cutting type atks in general compared to blunt force which she isnt far behind Superman in.

As for why though? Not sure. Shes a lot stronger now than she used to be initially so the vulnerability could be just an excuse to make her use and deflect/block stuff with her bracelets still like old times I assume.

Naw, that's more an anime thing. Comics are made by people that recognize that bunt versus piercing versus slashing is dumb once you get strong enough. Hence why basically everyone in the Justice League is immune to bullets while Goku can still be shot.

FF in a horrible slaughter.

Irony posted...

Memes aside even weaker members could beat FF protagonists

Max stat Wakka with World Champion Blitzball and Petrify ability one shot them one at a time

FF has literal magic.

Even superman is bodied by the lowest FF member.

ellis123 posted...

Welcome to the Speed Force? The Flash both has the ability to move at any, *any*, speed desired, hit with infinite power, etc. Like, you bring up the whole "gotcha" of the thermonuclear shockwave as if he didn't move so fast that the entirety of existence ended at a point in his story. The main difference between JRPGs and comics is that the comics always tie their super nonsense to an actual thing that you can point to where in JRPGs the entire concept of what's going on is strictly "this is what looks cool so it's going in" and so you end up with weird nonsense like what would happen to Tifa's mass if you did the math for what she did in Advent Children (spoiler: she thicc).

FF protag can control time.
Slow stop etc

Arcanine2009 posted...

Max stat Wakka with World Champion Blitzball and Petrify ability one shot them one at a time

While he lands a successful attack on the first member, Zatanna uses a spel to de-petrify them while Superman kicks Wakka's Blitzball across a few galaxies along with Wakka, yah?

WingsOfGood posted...

FF protag can control time.
Slow stop etc

Correct.

And so can Superman.

WingsOfGood posted...

FF protag can control time.
Slow stop etc

Flash can time travel to the point before they cast the spell and take that character out of the equation. Seriously, you guys don't get how absolutely ridiculously overpowered these guys are if you don't specify which roster during what era or adaptation.
Not to mention Zatanna is able to do and undo the very same thing

WingsOfGood posted...

FF protag can control time.
Slow stop etc

damn aight im back on team FF. i didnt realize they had these abilities

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Still don't understand how this discussion is going on.

Because people keep thinking of the (IMO more interesting because they are weaker) DCAU series from the 90s and 00s. The one all the "supes is weak to magic" stuff is especially strong in (he can also be knocked around by missiles even if they don't really hurt him, and darkseid technology like that sonic orb drone causes him to bleed out the ears, etc, he is not indestructible in the animated universe).

Yet, many of the people who keep arguing that are so blinded by the fact they never use status spells when playing the games that they don't seem to imagine just how OP those are against the DCAU versions of the Justice League and most of its extended roster in JLU.

Ratchetrockon posted...

damn aight im back on team FF. i didnt realize they had these abilities

What? Slow/Stop/Haste have been in pretty much every single FF. It's a staple of the series.

And again, not only is Zatanna able to do and undo the same...Flash (depending on which Flash) can actually time travel without any outside assistance. Meaning Wally West Flash can just run really fast and end up moments before the FF character casts the stop or slow spell.
And depending on the FF party their spells don't even effect multiple targets, the time spells are generally single target spells so an FF character has to instantly know taking out Wally with it is a priority...which could still be undone by Zatanna...or Fate.

ellis123 posted...

Naw, that's more an anime thing. Comics are made by people that recognize that bunt versus piercing versus slashing is dumb once you get strong enough. Hence why basically everyone in the Justice League is immune to bullets while Goku can still be shot.

The difference between Supermans and gokus defense is that the former is passive which means its always on. Vs gokus whose is active which means he has to manually turn it on and concentrate to maintain it.

And growth is certainly a thing in comics. Just remove the training arcs and mid season upgrades or power ups pretty much. Then extend the story across decades.

PA thing worth noting too, regardless of which variant of the DC guys we use, is that... well, lets use DCAU as an example with Flash and Supes. Supes at one point "stops holding back" against Darkseid and starts hitting hard enough and moving fast enough that he could probably easily overcome the physical FF members. And flash at one point goes running around the world multiple times a second (at basically the cost of his existence) during that finale where he is fighting the combined darkseid-brainiac (though it ends up being Lex who seemingly finishes him off).

Point is though, that they never use anywhere near this power from the start. Its more of a "reveal" moment when its like "okay, you guys are strong, I need to actually stop pretending like everything in the world is made of paper and eggshells to me, and let loose." So if the Justice League, especially an lower power version of them, is fighting normally, those endgame feats may simply never happen due to Flash and Supes getting turned to stone or stopped in time (Flash may actually have resistance to that one) before realizing they need to go nuts.

Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted...

Yet, many of the people who keep arguing that are so blinded by the fact they never use status spells when playing the games that they don't seem to imagine just how OP those are against the DCAU versions of the Justice League and most of its extended roster in JLU.

Yup, which is why I said earlier that it would provide for a far more interesting match-up. Putting the entire main FF cast against the comics JL just means FF gets steamrolled. DCAU JL would have massive trouble dealing with even a single FF party.

Ratchetrockon posted...

damn aight im back on team FF. i didnt realize they had these abilities

Half of these status effects dont affect enemies too strong (I.E. bosses).

The Justice League is gonna be immune to that stuff.

Outside of Zatanna, I prefer FF over DC. But come on, there's no way FF characters beat the comic book Justice League. >_>

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Half of these status effects dont affect enemies too strong (I.E. bosses).

The Justice League is gonna be immune to that stuff.

Here's when you can tell someone's gone full fanboy

"No that wouldn't work because it wouldn't."

What canon explanation is there that WW is immune to being turned into stone by magic?

Heck if you're going by that logic not only does nothing in DC protect them from magic but boss enemies do insane stuff in FF games and it does nothing. Sepiroth destroys the entire solar system and it barely hurts the team.

So if the entire solar system blowing up barely hurts Tifa, how will a punch from Batman?

Nah.

Batman can punch Tifa and it would hurt.
And Batman can be turned into stone.

Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted...

PA thing worth noting too, regardless of which variant of the DC guys we use,

Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted...

So if the Justice League, especially an lower power version of them, is fighting normally, those endgame feats may simply never happen due to Flash and Supes getting turned to stone or stopped in time (Flash may actually have resistance to that one) before realizing they need to go nuts.

Nah, that's been my point the entire time. It's not "regardless which version" because when you don't specify it means every version. Meaning Zatanna and Dr Fate are there who've had more than enough experience dealing with low level time manipulation and run of the mill spells like petrification.
And the fact that those very same status spells are pretty much always single target spells, the only notable exception I can recall is FFX's Hastega/Slowga/Stopga, means that if they manage to land that spell on one of the physical heavy hitters, one of the magical team members can undo it. Zatanna's backwards magic is broken beyond belief. So they'd have to take her out of the equation with Silence, but that doesn't work on Fate who doesn't always need actual words to use magic.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Heck if you're going by that logic not only does nothing in DC protect them from magic but boss enemies do insane stuff in FF games and it does nothing. Sepiroth destroys the entire solar system and it barely hurts the team.

I mean those are just gameplay theatrics and aren't actually happening in the story. Otherwise, Aerith wouldn't have died from being stabbed by Sephiroth.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Here's when you can tell someone's gone full fanboy

"No that wouldn't work because it wouldn't."

What canon explanation is there that WW is immune to being turned into stone by magic?

Heck if you're going by that logic not only does nothing in DC protect them from magic but boss enemies do insane stuff in FF games and it does nothing. Sepiroth destroys the entire solar system and it barely hurts the team.

So if the entire solar system blowing up barely hurts Tifa, how will a punch from Batman?

Nah.

Batman can punch Tifa and it would hurt.
And Batman can be turned into stone.

The same reason FF protags dont just cast Stop on every antagonist.

They either cant or dont canonically have the spells. Its just gameplay.

Villain attacks are the same. Supernova for example, could canonically not have been used.

But just assuming FF characters would be Stop spamming or using petrify when they never do so in canonical appearances is silly.

Might as well say Zell Boo-Yah loops Super Man into a KO. Everyone just starts casting Death. Victory Fanfare.

UnfairRepresent posted...

What canon explanation is there that WW is immune to being turned into stone by magic?

Her equipment (lasso, bracelets, sword,shield) being magical in nature and having been shown to be able to reflect magic?

TheSavageDragon posted...

Yup, which is why I said earlier that it would provide for a far more interesting match-up. Putting the entire main FF cast against the comics JL just means FF gets steamrolled. DCAU JL would have massive trouble dealing with even a single FF party.

Bruh, Superman, Supergirl, Wonder Woman, and Shazam from the DCAU. That's all that's needed. That's Superman 4x. Two of them fought Darkseid separately, someone who can one-shot every FF character.

Worried about magic? Wonder Woman, Wonder Girl, Donna Troy, and Shazam for close combat, Doctor Fate and Zatanna (who can summon Etrigan btw) for range. More is overkill.

4 Earth Green Lanterns who are basically the most powerful in the corps, at the same time. Hal was punching Sinestro through planets in one of his movies.

It's also not at all fair for the scenario to be a heavily nerfed version of the JL vs max power FF protagonists all combined. FF still loses flat out though.

TheSavageDragon posted...

Her equipment (lasso, bracelets, sword,shield) being magical in nature and having been shown to be able to reflect magic?

Show me when WW's braclets prevented someone from petrifying her with magic?

They don't even fire laser beams. They just cast the spell and it happens

cuttin_in_farm posted...
The same reason FF protags dont just cast Stop on every antagonist.

Cuz it's a video game.

Might as well say Zell Boo-Yah loops Super Man into a KO. Everyone just starts casting Death. Victory Fanfare.

That's literally the argument.

How would the Justice League fair

And if all you got is "they wouldn't because Is ay so" then you're a fanboy

Prismsblade posted...

The difference between Supermans and gokus defense is that the former is passive which means its always on. Vs gokus whose is active which means he has to manually turn it on and concentrate to maintain it.

And growth is certainly a thing in comics. Just remove the training arcs and mid season upgrades or power ups pretty much. Then extend the story across decades.

Err, I know. That is basically a part of my point: stuff in anime is really dumb when you actually try and put real world logic to it just like how it's being done versus the Justice League. Think about it this way: there are only three ways that "passive" versus "active" make any sense. The first is that ki is what is actually stopping the bullet, and thus any time that Goku is prepping/prepped ki he is strong enough to ignore damage that would normally be inflicted by bullets. However, this obviously cannot be the case as this would mean that Goku would natively be vulnerable to any attack with stronger power than a bullet and that could move faster than a bullet (as he cannot react to the speed of the bullet in the scenarios where he was hit by one... for the obvious reason that he got hit). So unless he had a ki uptime of 100%, completely negating the entire point of this entire thing, he would be defeatable by anyone stronger than a gun: something that is pretty obviously not the case. The second is that his physiology is stronger when he is flexing/powered up and thus is able to avoid damage from being shot. This, however, is once again proven to be false as if this were the case then his skin, which would not be changed no matter how much he flexed his muscles, would not escape the damage (and any attempts to go backwards would end up with it being ki that is stopping the bullets, which has already been proven to not be the case).

Finally we have the final, and real, answer: you aren't supposed to think about it. Goku escapes damage because he's Goku, Goku takes damage because he is Goku. Much as I alluded to before the entire logic is just "because anime" and trying to make a big deal about it is missing the point. If you tried to apply any form of logic to Goku it would make no sense why anything worked the way that it did and so you are "the greater fool" when you try and act as if there is some greater narrative behind it. The fact that comic book characters have weakness' isn't because that is a narrative thing that they like to do, but so that there can be any tension for the people that don't just turn off their brains whenever characters are punching each other. Goku doesn't need one because he is anime: when he needs to be beaten he just will. When he needs to win he just will. While not all characters of this nature are terrible in this way there is a reason that the characters like Edward Elric or
Gon Freecss are considered masterclass: the writers gave enough of a crap to humanize them in such a way that their loses actually make sense and their powers are somewhat quantifiable in spite of breaking the laws of nature.

And of course growth is a thing in comics. Otherwise Superman wouldn't have been bench-pressing planets. No clue why you put that in there as that really wasn't ever a point that I was trying to make.

VFalcone posted...

Bruh, Superman, Supergirl, Wonder Woman, and Shazam from the DCAU. That's all that's needed. That's Superman 4x. Two of them fought Darkseid separately, someone who can one-shot every FF character.

Correction, they fought DCAU Darkseid. He isn't the omniversal, able to blast people out of existence, "this form is just an avatar, you can't even comprehend my true form" character comics Darkseid is. He's been equally as nerfed as the heroes he's going up against. DCAU Darkseid is a stronger Mongul, a brawler character with much less physical strength than his comic book counterpart.

VFalcone posted...

Worried about magic? Wonder Woman, Wonder Girl, Donna Troy, and Shazam for close combat, Doctor Fate and Zatanna (who can summon Etrigan btw) for range. More is overkill.

VFalcone posted...

4 Earth Green Lanterns who are basically the most powerful in the corps, at the same time. Hal was punching Sinestro through planets in one of his movies.

Read what you're quoting. Half of the characters you're mentioning aren't in the DCAU JL series which I clearly mentioned. No Cassie, no Donna, no Hal, no Guy and Kyle despite being in Superman TAS just plain doesn't exist in JL/JLU. He was replaced with John without Superman even mentioning he has prior knowledge of the Green Lanterns being a thing.
Hal punching Sinestro through planets in IIRC First Flight has no bearing on DCAU John Stewart. Those movies are its own thing and not based in that particular universe

VFalcone posted...

It's also not at all fair for the scenario to be a heavily nerfed version of the JL vs max power FF protagonists all combined. FF still loses flat out though.

It is. Because the comic versions outclass the FF cast on such an insane level they need to be brought down to provide a fair match-up.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Show me when WW's braclets prevented someone from petrifying her with magic?

They don't even fire laser beams. They just cast the spell and it happens

Cuz it's a video game.

That's literally the argument.

How would the Justice League fair

And if all you got is "they wouldn't because Is ay so" then you're a fanboy

Her almost immunity to magic comes from her being blessed by the gods. Her bracelets don't do crap all against magic. About the most magical thing the bracelets do is prevent her from using her whole physical strength (you know, the Rock Lee thing).

UnfairRepresent posted...

Show me when WW's braclets prevented someone from petrifying her with magic?

They don't even fire laser beams. They just cast the spell and it happens

It's amusing how you've just stayed quiet until you finally spotted a gotcha moment.
You're right. I can't find a particular instance of her reflecting that particular spell with her bracelets.

But let's take the thing you were initially responding to...the fact that it's stupid to assume the JL would possess resistances similar to FF bosses. In Wonder Woman's case, that's just straight-up true. She isn't immune to a petrification or poison spell, but having one be successful against her is far more unlikely than any other JL member that isn't Zatanna or Fate. She has magical resistances even without that equipment being able to reflect spells.