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cjsdowg 11/11/23 6:54:39 PM #1: |
https://twitter.com/DisneyAnimation/status/1722343233336864822
Unless he is lying about something. I don't see how he is wrong. People give there wishes willingly and they might or might not come true. If you really wanted that wish you would have fought for and not risked it. So the people who forget their wish. The literally asked for it. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiek_Fafn 11/11/23 6:58:07 PM #2: |
She straight up tells him to be the authority on what wishes are dangerous and should be stopped which is also pretty fucked up
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archizzy 11/11/23 7:00:33 PM #3: |
They knew what? Oh, new. Lol.
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Flauros 11/11/23 7:00:41 PM #4: |
Dude gives off major MCU Dr. Strange energy.
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lilORANG 11/11/23 7:01:54 PM #5: |
Haven't heard of this movie but just watching that clip and I can tell the premise is incredibly stupid.
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StealThisSheen 11/11/23 7:02:20 PM #6: |
Holy crap, is that Chris Pine?
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BlueTigerLion 11/11/23 7:02:27 PM #7: |
archizzy posted...
They knew what? Oh, new. Lol. --- Hey now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrKapowski 11/11/23 7:02:45 PM #8: |
TC loves siding with villains
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StealThisSheen 11/11/23 7:06:31 PM #9: |
lilORANG posted...
Haven't heard of this movie but just watching that clip and I can tell the premise is incredibly stupid. The premise is literally: If you give one person too much power, even with good intentions, said intentions can end up bad/corrupted. Thus, the heroine realizes the mistake that was made, and tries to fight against the already established system. That doesn't seem like a bad premise at all, since it literally admits mistakes were made, which lead to the "villain," in the first place. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 11/11/23 7:08:28 PM #10: |
StealThisSheen posted...
The premise is literally: If you give one person too much power, even with good intentions, said intentions can end up bad/corrupted. Thus, the heroine realizes the mistake that was made, and tries to fight against the already established system.The premise seems to be, if you make a wish, part of your soul goes to this handsome fella and you forgot you made that wish in the first place unless it is granted --- Let's all please just get along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 11/11/23 7:10:02 PM #11: |
He seems right and wrong. Right in that some wishes are too dangerous to grant but wrong in refusing to grant any wishes and just giving his people false hope.
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Daremo 11/11/23 7:11:25 PM #12: |
It would depend entirely on whether or not people knew the whole deal. "Come to this place! Your wish may or may not be granted, but if it's not your memory of the thing you wanted will be erased."
If people only know their wish may or may not be granted, that's not good. Even worse would be if everyone thinks their wish will be granted because only successful wish seekers come back knowing they had a wish in the first place. Selection/survivorship bias is a thing. --- Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 11/11/23 7:11:50 PM #13: |
lilORANG posted...
The premise seems to be, if you make a wish, part of your soul goes to this handsome fella and you forgot you made that wish in the first place unless it is granted Ah. So, in other words, just like literally every single other of your posts, you're just shitposting. My bad for expecting something different, for once. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 11/11/23 7:16:59 PM #14: |
StealThisSheen posted...
Ah. So, in other words, just like literally every single other of your posts, you're just shitposting.I don't even know who you are, but I hope you're ok --- Let's all please just get along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kim_Seong-a 11/11/23 7:24:53 PM #15: |
"You steal men's wishes and make them your slaves!"
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Guide 11/11/23 7:30:13 PM #16: |
Always annoys me when they make the bad guy right, but then make him shitty anyway to justify the framing.
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tremain07 11/11/23 7:32:50 PM #17: |
it sounds like a conflict that's far too complicated to make into an hour and something plot, I expect a terrible resolution that will lead to walls of text online once it comes out.
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FortuneCookie 11/11/23 7:34:17 PM #18: |
"Well, while you're taking requests, here's a kid named Hitler. He just wants to start his own third reich and bring happiness and joy to the world. Why don't you grant him that wish, huh?" ~ Nostalgia Critic, We're Back: A Dinosaur Story ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 11/11/23 8:25:30 PM #19: |
Kim_Seong-a posted...
"You steal men's wishes and make them your slaves!" He isn't stealing them. People are risking them. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lagfile 11/11/23 8:35:26 PM #20: |
Kim_Seong-a posted...
"You steal men's wishes and make them your slaves!" Perhaps the same could be said of all religions... --- Green Skip is my favorite UNO card. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 11/11/23 8:43:51 PM #22: |
lilORANG posted...
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bfslick50 11/11/23 8:59:56 PM #23: |
Im going to take your money to perform a service, but Im not going to tell you if I performed the service and Im going to use magic to make you forget you asked.
Sounds very authoritarian and abusive. Hard disagree with the villain here. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 11/11/23 9:54:43 PM #24: |
bfslick50 posted...
Im going to take your money to perform a service, but Im not going to tell you if I performed the service and Im going to use magic to make you forget you asked. If you've ever followed TC's posting history, it's no wonder why they agree with the villain. They tend to not like people having rights, and when you call them out over it, they concern troll. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 11/11/23 10:00:08 PM #25: |
Case in point, this is a topic the TC actually posted:
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cjsdowg 11/11/23 11:01:18 PM #26: |
StealThisSheen posted...
LOL What right do I wish to be curtailed. Since you claimed to have called me out about this. Name this. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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R_Jackal 11/11/23 11:05:55 PM #27: |
I can see the premise, but everyone is going to walk out of it looking like an idiot in that movie I feel like. It's weird, I'll see more of it, but I feel like a damn sidequest you get in the first 30 mins of SMT5 deals with this premise better than this whole ass movie will. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cuttin_in_farm 11/11/23 11:14:05 PM #28: |
Attacking TC seems dumb since it appears most of the responses in the tweet also dont disagree with the antagonist character.
But this seems like a John Walker situation. Disney frames the character as bad because of music choice and bad facial expressions even though the characters actions are very tame and reasonable objectively. Like, the antagonist is apparently a king. Its a monarchy. Hes literally doing his duties to the kingdom in a way that doesnt hurt anyone. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Agonized_rufous 11/11/23 11:20:03 PM #29: |
Thats Cesar Millan, just replace wishes with dogs people can't handle
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cjsdowg 11/11/23 11:27:16 PM #30: |
cuttin_in_farm posted...
Attacking TC seems dumb since it appears most of the responses in the tweet also dont disagree with the antagonist character. Thank you. Also I am not mad at John Walker for killing the terrorist that help to kill his best friend . A guy that Bucky and Sam met talk to, and when he was killed they didn't give a shit about . --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 11/11/23 11:32:53 PM #31: |
Sounds like an allegory for Christianity, tbh.
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StealThisSheen 11/11/23 11:34:08 PM #32: |
cjsdowg posted...
Thank you. I feel like you have to be trolling at this point, since you post this after me pointing out that you support the Empire in Star Wars. This is a little too on the nose, though. Do better. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 11/11/23 11:36:18 PM #33: |
StealThisSheen posted...
I feel like you have to be trolling at this point, since you post this after me pointing out that you support the Empire in Star Wars. Dude I will ask you once more what rights have as fought to be taken away. You said this about me and I asked you to point this out. And then you are going to reply to a post that isn't to you. And not even address the post. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 11/11/23 11:45:18 PM #34: |
cjsdowg posted...
And then you are going to reply to a post that isn't to you Do you know how the internet works? If you don't want me replying to posts you make, just block me, already. I pointed out that you continually shitpost. You got mad about it. Sorry, I guess? --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 11/11/23 11:50:16 PM #35: |
Sounds like the typical villain who did bad things under the pretense of doing good things, tbh.
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StealThisSheen 11/11/23 11:52:50 PM #36: |
Ricemills posted...
Sounds like the typical villain who did bad things under the pretense of doing good things, tbh. This. I'm confused what the uproar is about. TC pushing a "You deserved to be taken advantage of" take about it seems like shitposting 101, yet they're throwing a fit for it even being suggested. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 11/12/23 12:00:20 AM #37: |
StealThisSheen posted...
Do you know how the internet works? If you don't want me replying to posts you make, just block me, already. I pointed out that you continually shitpost. You got mad about it. Sorry, I guess? I am not mad about anything. I just find it out that suggest that I did something, and when I asked you to point out. You didn't and started to talk about something else. And then you suggest I am throwing a "fit" because I asked you to support your stance. I don't know what your issue is dude, but you are kind of boring at this point. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 11/12/23 12:09:39 AM #38: |
cjsdowg posted...
I am not mad about anything. I just find it out that suggest that I did something, and when I asked you to point out. You didn't and started to talk about something else. And then you suggest I am throwing a "fit" because I asked you to support your stance. I don't know what your issue is dude, but you are kind of boring at this point. I pointed out, with proof, previous shitpost attempts of yours, which was really all that needed to be said. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 11/12/23 12:13:50 AM #39: |
StealThisSheen posted...
I pointed out, with proof, previous shitpost attempts of yours, which was really all that needed to be said. Okay so you are not going to back up your statements. Go mess up someone else topic. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tora_Sami 11/12/23 12:30:21 AM #40: |
Well I mean, some wishes shouldn't be granted. Some wishes are extremely selfish and can hurt others even if they are not trying to. You wish for that promotion but you take it from someone else who also deserves it. Some wish harm on others. Some wish for magic fish nets that can disrupt the eco system. This movie is gonna base it on that all the wishes he is holding are good and decent wishes. Though I think he should give some back and encourage them to fulfill their wishes themselves. It's a very nuanced take that isn't all sunshine as rainbows but this is a kids movie so eh.
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bfslick50 11/12/23 8:29:37 AM #41: |
Tora_Sami posted...
Well I mean, some wishes shouldn't be granted. Some wishes are extremely selfish and can hurt others even if they are not trying to. You wish for that promotion but you take it from someone else who also deserves it. Some wish harm on others. Some wish for magic fish nets that can disrupt the eco system. This movie is gonna base it on that all the wishes he is holding are good and decent wishes. Though I think he should give some back and encourage them to fulfill their wishes themselves. It's a very nuanced take that isn't all sunshine as rainbows but this is a kids movie so eh. But theres zero oversight. People only make wishes they think are good but some arent when you step back. He only grants wishes he thinks are good and everyone must trust that hes perfect. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 11/12/23 8:56:25 AM #42: |
Wish is intended to honor their 100th birthday. I would expect Disney to make the most incredible and heartfelt masterpiece ever Not sure if they did though ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cuttin_in_farm 11/12/23 8:56:33 AM #43: |
bfslick50 posted...
But theres zero oversight. People only make wishes they think are good but some arent when you step back. He only grants wishes he thinks are good and everyone must trust that hes perfect. The issue loses weight when wishes arent a necessity. Like, being able to have wishes granted at all is such a luxury from the get go. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bfslick50 11/12/23 9:06:08 AM #44: |
Zikten posted...
Wish is intended to honor their 100th birthday. I would expect Disney to make the most incredible and heartfelt masterpiece ever Disney company turned 100 years old his year --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 11/12/23 9:09:31 AM #45: |
Hes grifting people.
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ANort175 11/12/23 9:10:48 AM #46: |
I'd just ignore every wish that isn't about bringing back Vegy or getting Neon out of purgatory tbh
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SuperSaiyanTien 11/12/23 2:39:54 PM #47: |
Yeah...this is a difficult thing because (at least from this short clip) it doesn't seem like he's being villainous?? He is the king / wish granter and he decides if a wish is harmful or not and then grants it.
The MC's qualm is that a bunch of wishes don't get granted...but like all wishes cannot be granted. If two people wish to be the best doctor in all the kingdom, that's impossible to grant both. What if one person wants to be the best doctor for riches while the other genuinely wants to help people? Also someone else in this thread said it best: all wishes are not equal. Sometimes people can wish for selfish things that they don't need or as the guy says they could wish for something outside of their achievable means, which in that case forgetting it might be the best for everyone. They're gonna have to really show some villainy I.E. he gains power from ungranted wishes, or he collects wishes / memories to enslave people, etc. for me to side against him. --- "Well, maybe the Dirt Dragon should have thought about that before taking over the opera house." - Lord_Bob_Bree ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bfslick50 11/12/23 3:31:20 PM #48: |
SuperSaiyanTien posted...
Yeah...this is a difficult thing because (at least from this short clip) it doesn't seem like he's being villainous?? He is the king / wish granter and he decides if a wish is harmful or not and then grants it. You're misrepresenting her argument. She was horrified at the memory erasure aspect. The guy who wanted to become a doctor for selfish reasons could still try on his own to be a really good doctor if he knew that he wanted to be a doctor. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 11/12/23 3:49:59 PM #49: |
Sounds to me that he's a villain who promises to make wishes come true so people don't have to try and earn anything and he then keeps wishes for his own benefit.
The obvious message in the movie is gonna be that our wishes are what drives us to be better people in order to make them come true ourselves. So when he takes that away from people he stops their potential. Not really sure how this makes him right? Also he doesn't say that he only doesn't grant wishes that are harmful. He says he only grants one that benefits the kingdom. Which is going to be ones that benefit him. Because...he's the villain. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 11/12/23 4:05:03 PM #50: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
Also he doesn't say that he only doesn't grant wishes that are harmful. He says he only grants one that benefits the kingdom. Which is going to be ones that benefit him. Because...he's the villain. See a wish does not have to be harmful to be bad. And the MC is already talking about judging wishes herself. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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